Re: [ql-users] Q40 & 60 Screen Resolutions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The OS changing was of course implied... but that's not the hardware > designer's job Well, whose job is it? Anyway, if those chips were available they'd have to be identifiable by software. Otherwise the result would be a mess. [109(!) lines of junk snipped] Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Q40 & 60 Screen Resolutions
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 10:47 , jms1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: >Peter Graf tells me the chip turns > >512x256 mode 4 into 1024x512 mode 4 > >& > >256x256 mode 8 into 512x512 mode 8 > >Not only does the chip have to be changed but Operating Software has to be >changed to use a different resolution. The OS changing was of course implied... but that's not the hardware designer's job Greetings from Greece, Ffibys > >- Original Message - >From: "Duncan Neithercut" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 10:40 PM >Subject: RE: [ql-users] Q40 & 60 Screen Resolutions > > >Ffibys wrote : >"But in reality, yes, the >hardware is reprogrammable to show different resolutions... however the >way it is, you will lose one to gain another" > >Yes, but what is the real reality - is there software & documentation that >would allow the jobbing tinkerer to do this to their own Qx0 - or do you >mean it is theoretically possible if the supplier programmes some chips >with alternative resolutions using specialist hardware tools and flogs them >to the punters? > >If I had a choice & why not the Qx0 is not cheap I would choose to have >512x256 mode 4, 640x480 mode 33, 848x480 mode 33 and 1024,512 >mode 33. If mode 8 and/or 512x256 screens are essential it makes no >sense to buy a Qx0 - there are cheaper options like QPC2, or a second hand >SuperGold card. > >What resolutions would other Qx0 users like? > >Duncan Neithercut > >-Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[EMAIL PROTECTED]','','','')">[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Phoebus >Dokos >Sent: 05 January 2005 03:04 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [ql-users] Q40 & 60 Screen Resolutions > > >Την Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:46:40 -,ο(η) jms1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >ÎγÏ�αÏ�ε/wrote: > >> I believe Phoebus said that it was not the video chip which restricted >> the >> display on the Q40 and Q60 to 512x256 & 1024x512. >> Does this mean it is possible to get other resolutions by changing the >> operating system or is it one of the custom chips that restricts the >> screen >> resolution? >> If so can the custom chip be reprogrammed to handle more resolutions? >> >> > >That's what I thought but then I contacted Peter who clarified it for me. >There are a total of 4 resolutions on both Q40 and Q60. These are: > >256 x 256 8 colours (Mode 8) >512 x 256 4 colours (Mode 4) >512 x 256 65535 colours (Mode 33 Low) >1024 x 512 65535 colours (Mode 33 High) > >The hardware is perfectly capable of displaying other resolutions, however >there's no space left to implement them on the logic chips. > >Peter had produced another version which replaced the Mode 8 with a high >res Mode 4 screen but this never circulated. But in reality, yes, the >hardware is reprogrammable to show different resolutions... however the >way it is, you will lose one to gain another > >Ffibys > >___ >> QL-Users Mailing List >> http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm >> > > > >-- >Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ >___ >QL-Users Mailing List >http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > > >___ >QL-Users Mailing List >http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > >___ >QL-Users Mailing List >http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Q40 & 60 Screen Resolutions
Peter Graf tells me the chip turns 512x256 mode 4 into 1024x512 mode 4 & 256x256 mode 8 into 512x512 mode 8 Not only does the chip have to be changed but Operating Software has to be changed to use a different resolution. - Original Message - From: "Duncan Neithercut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 10:40 PM Subject: RE: [ql-users] Q40 & 60 Screen Resolutions Ffibys wrote : "But in reality, yes, the hardware is reprogrammable to show different resolutions... however the way it is, you will lose one to gain another" Yes, but what is the real reality - is there software & documentation that would allow the jobbing tinkerer to do this to their own Qx0 - or do you mean it is theoretically possible if the supplier programmes some chips with alternative resolutions using specialist hardware tools and flogs them to the punters? If I had a choice & why not the Qx0 is not cheap I would choose to have 512x256 mode 4, 640x480 mode 33, 848x480 mode 33 and 1024,512 mode 33. If mode 8 and/or 512x256 screens are essential it makes no sense to buy a Qx0 - there are cheaper options like QPC2, or a second hand SuperGold card. What resolutions would other Qx0 users like? Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Phoebus Dokos Sent: 05 January 2005 03:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Q40 & 60 Screen Resolutions ÎÎÎ Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:46:40 -,Î(Î) jms1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ÎÎÏÎÏÎ/wrote: > I believe Phoebus said that it was not the video chip which restricted > the > display on the Q40 and Q60 to 512x256 & 1024x512. > Does this mean it is possible to get other resolutions by changing the > operating system or is it one of the custom chips that restricts the > screen > resolution? > If so can the custom chip be reprogrammed to handle more resolutions? > > That's what I thought but then I contacted Peter who clarified it for me. There are a total of 4 resolutions on both Q40 and Q60. These are: 256 x 256 8 colours (Mode 8) 512 x 256 4 colours (Mode 4) 512 x 256 65535 colours (Mode 33 Low) 1024 x 512 65535 colours (Mode 33 High) The hardware is perfectly capable of displaying other resolutions, however there's no space left to implement them on the logic chips. Peter had produced another version which replaced the Mode 8 with a high res Mode 4 screen but this never circulated. But in reality, yes, the hardware is reprogrammable to show different resolutions... however the way it is, you will lose one to gain another Ffibys ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Q40 & 60 Screen Resolutions
Ffibys wrote : "But in reality, yes, the hardware is reprogrammable to show different resolutions... however the way it is, you will lose one to gain another" Yes, but what is the real reality - is there software & documentation that would allow the jobbing tinkerer to do this to their own Qx0 - or do you mean it is theoretically possible if the supplier programmes some chips with alternative resolutions using specialist hardware tools and flogs them to the punters? If I had a choice & why not the Qx0 is not cheap I would choose to have 512x256 mode 4, 640x480 mode 33, 848x480 mode 33 and 1024,512 mode 33. If mode 8 and/or 512x256 screens are essential it makes no sense to buy a Qx0 - there are cheaper options like QPC2, or a second hand SuperGold card. What resolutions would other Qx0 users like? Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Phoebus Dokos Sent: 05 January 2005 03:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Q40 & 60 Screen Resolutions ÎÎÎ Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:46:40 -,Î(Î) jms1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ÎÎÏÎÏÎ/wrote: > I believe Phoebus said that it was not the video chip which restricted > the > display on the Q40 and Q60 to 512x256 & 1024x512. > Does this mean it is possible to get other resolutions by changing the > operating system or is it one of the custom chips that restricts the > screen > resolution? > If so can the custom chip be reprogrammed to handle more resolutions? > > That's what I thought but then I contacted Peter who clarified it for me. There are a total of 4 resolutions on both Q40 and Q60. These are: 256 x 256 8 colours (Mode 8) 512 x 256 4 colours (Mode 4) 512 x 256 65535 colours (Mode 33 Low) 1024 x 512 65535 colours (Mode 33 High) The hardware is perfectly capable of displaying other resolutions, however there's no space left to implement them on the logic chips. Peter had produced another version which replaced the Mode 8 with a high res Mode 4 screen but this never circulated. But in reality, yes, the hardware is reprogrammable to show different resolutions... however the way it is, you will lose one to gain another Ffibys ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Q40 & 60 Screen Resolutions
ÎÎÎ Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:46:40 -,Î(Î) jms1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ÎÎÏÎÏÎ/wrote: I believe Phoebus said that it was not the video chip which restricted the display on the Q40 and Q60 to 512x256 & 1024x512. Does this mean it is possible to get other resolutions by changing the operating system or is it one of the custom chips that restricts the screen resolution? If so can the custom chip be reprogrammed to handle more resolutions? That's what I thought but then I contacted Peter who clarified it for me. There are a total of 4 resolutions on both Q40 and Q60. These are: 256 x 256 8 colours (Mode 8) 512 x 256 4 colours (Mode 4) 512 x 256 65535 colours (Mode 33 Low) 1024 x 512 65535 colours (Mode 33 High) The hardware is perfectly capable of displaying other resolutions, however there's no space left to implement them on the logic chips. Peter had produced another version which replaced the Mode 8 with a high res Mode 4 screen but this never circulated. But in reality, yes, the hardware is reprogrammable to show different resolutions... however the way it is, you will lose one to gain another Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Q40 & 60 Screen Resolutions
jms1 wrote: > I believe Phoebus said that it was not the video chip which restricted the > display on the Q40 and Q60 to 512x256 & 1024x512. Those 4 modes are all the hardware can do. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Q40 & 60 Screen Resolutions
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:46:40 -, jms1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I believe Phoebus said that it was not the video chip which restricted the display on the Q40 and Q60 to 512x256 & 1024x512. Does this mean it is possible to get other resolutions by changing the operating system or is it one of the custom chips that restricts the screen resolution? If so can the custom chip be reprogrammed to handle more resolutions? You would be better asking this question on the ql-developers list since Peter Graf subscribes to that list, but not this one unfortunately... -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Q40 & 60 Screen Resolutions
I believe Phoebus said that it was not the video chip which restricted the display on the Q40 and Q60 to 512x256 & 1024x512. Does this mean it is possible to get other resolutions by changing the operating system or is it one of the custom chips that restricts the screen resolution? If so can the custom chip be reprogrammed to handle more resolutions? ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
