Re: [ql-users] QPac2 Colourways vs System Pallete
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 at 02:11:42, Marcel Kilgus wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) snip Headache? :-) Actually my plan of skipping the beer and immediately starting with tequila, vodka, sparkling wine and finally Bacardi worked very well, no headache at all. Usually it's the beer in the mix that gets me. ;-) Just didn't get much sleep as I only got to bed at 8 in the morning. ... sounds like something to kill you (8-)# BTW, you can add the Retry and Abandon items .. sounds like something to consider with your drink cocktails (8-)# in the FILE ERROR window to the list of items that I think use the App Win Item colours rather than the Loose Item ones... Ok, fixed that, too. Will send test version privately. Now I think I've really have earned myself the time to watch a nice Yes, Minister episode. Now that (and the follow-up Yes Prime Minister) is brilliant. One of the reasons it is so good is that it is heavily based on truth. OK no minister is -that- compliant and manipulatable (urmm that may be an invented word) but the civil servants are -certainly- very like Humphrey. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPac2 Colourways vs System Pallete
Now I think I've really have earned myself the time to watch a nice Yes, Minister episode. Now that (and the follow-up Yes Prime Minister) is brilliant. One of the reasons it is so good is that it is heavily based on truth. OK no minister is -that- compliant and manipulatable (urmm that may be an invented word) but the civil servants are -certainly- very like Humphrey. Tony And it probably fits in well with how those in other countries see the British. Surprising that 'Allo 'Allo doesn't cause offence in Europe, but most people seem to see it as belittling the British more than anything else. I suppose programs like these are just so silly (likeably silly) that nobody takes offence. -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 30/12/2004 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPac2 Colourways vs System Pallete
Sun, 2 Jan 2005 16:53:20 -,() hitchies [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Re Dilwyn's: ..Surprising that 'Allo 'Allo doesn't cause offence in Europe,. == Wasn't 'Allo 'Allo the one with the usual line: I will say it only once! What did she say? I said I will say it only once! (Or am I confused here?) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPac2 Colourways vs System Pallete
Marcel Kilgus wrote: 1) The empty device name loose items in the Source/Destination Directory window are solid black rather than a white/green stipple That's the Shaded area colour. Hmm... when I change things via QCoCo, it appears to pick up the App Win paper colour instead! 2) The View window ink is black (on black paper!) Probably application window colours. Yes, you're right. However, when I corrected this, I lost the Copy filename text in the No/Yes/ESC/All confirmation window (white-on-white)! Re. the Sort by window (and also the Print window), further experimentation suggests that the App Win Item colours are used rather than the Loose Item colours, making it impossible to recreate my old colour scheme :-( Also, at the risk of upsetting Phoebus and Marcel, does anyone know how I can replace the colourful new system sprites with the boring old ones? :-) You could add the smsq_gold_sysspr module to the SMSQ/E file, it should override the other one, or use the code therein to create a LRESPR extension. I think just the header has to be cut away for this to work. Or, simplest solution actually, just don't start in high colour mode ;-) The trouble is that this option does not exist on the Qx0, which is what started me off down this road... Happy New Year and... QL Forever John ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPac2 Colourways vs System Pallete
John Hall wrote: Yes... but, as I pointed out in my follow-up message, the old QPac2 has both a main border colourway and a menu window colourway, whereas the current version uses a single palette number :-( Actually I did check that both options are still available but now that I check again you're right. That's what you get when you answer in a hurry. And thinking of it, I had to remove the option as it's technically not doable. You can however find the complete old colour definitions in ee_wman_syspal_asm. Or, simplest solution actually, just don't start in high colour mode ;-) But that would be tooo easy :-) Ok, second easiest: use QPAC2 v1.40 ;-) I mainly just changed the colour system anyway. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPac2 Colourways vs System Pallete
Malcolm Cadman wrote: ... And just when we thought it was safe to have v1.39 ... :-) Is that on your web site ? Nah, cannot. I did the updates for free but its basic status is still commercial. It can however be updated from the usual sources. I will have to now have a look at all these colour experiments that you have being doing. I've been preparing a demonstration .WIN file for years now, but I never seem to find the time to finish it. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPac2 Colourways vs System Pallete
John Hall wrote: That's the Shaded area colour. Hmm... when I change things via QCoCo, it appears to pick up the App Win paper colour instead! Hmmm, doesn't look like shaded area can be separately set in QCoco. Probably because this QPAC2 menu is the only application that made ever use of it. 2) The View window ink is black (on black paper!) Probably application window colours. Yes, you're right. However, when I corrected this, I lost the Copy filename text in the No/Yes/ESC/All confirmation window (white-on-white)! Right, that's a bug. Now if I only had a clue where the colour is set, this is some damn complicated code. Re. the Sort by window (and also the Print window), further experimentation suggests that the App Win Item colours are used rather than the Loose Item colours, making it impossible to recreate my old colour scheme :-( I have a (I think yet unreleased) version 1.43 here with the note Minor colour fixes, so perhaps I did already fix that. Too tired and lazy to do a release now, though, it was quite a long party last night. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPac2 Colourways vs System Pallete
John Hall wrote: That's the Shaded area colour. Hmm... when I change things via QCoCo, it appears to pick up the App Win paper colour instead! Hmmm, doesn't look like shaded area can be separately set in QCoco. Probably because this QPAC2 menu is the only application that made ever use of it. That's true. I just looked that up and found that Shaded area and vertical area fill (nr. 48 and 51 in the list) are set to a background (paper) colour of the Infowindow or the Application window by QCoCo. This is not the best solution, but as I didn't know of any use except for 1 case (QPac2 using the vertacal fill area) I couldn't even test it ;) If there will be other applications using these two, I will update QCoCo. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPac2 Colourways vs System Pallete
Wolfgang Uhlig wrote: If there will be other applications using these two, I will update QCoCo. One (small) thing I've noticed while messing about with the palette colours - if you hit the SAVE_TH item and then ESCape from the File Select window, the item text changes to save. Also, the About window says Version 1.52 11-01-04 but the config. block says V1.53... John ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPac2 Colourways vs System Pallete
Marcel Kilgus wrote: Hmmm, doesn't look like shaded area can be separately set in QCoco. Probably because this QPAC2 menu is the only application that made ever use of it. Yes, I'd come to the same conclusion after saving and comparing a couple of before and after palettes. However, when I corrected this, I lost the Copy filename text in the No/Yes/ESC/All confirmation window (white-on-white)! Right, that's a bug. :-) Now if I only had a clue where the colour is set, this is some damn complicated code. :-( I have a (I think yet unreleased) version 1.43 here with the note Minor colour fixes, so perhaps I did already fix that. Too tired and lazy to do a release now, though, it was quite a long party last night. Headache? :-) BTW, you can add the Retry and Abandon items in the FILE ERROR window to the list of items that I think use the App Win Item colours rather than the Loose Item ones... Happy New Year and... QL Forever John ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPac2 Colourways vs System Pallete
Now if I only had a clue where the colour is set, this is some damn complicated code. But that's very easy, actually :) As I already said, Shaded area and vertical area fill are number 48 and 51 in the list, what I mean with list can be seen on: http://home.tiscali.nl/wuhlig/ql/syscolours.html So If you've made a theme with QCoCo, then you only have to edit the lines 48 and 51 in this theme, in order to get the colours you want. No need to have to understand some damn complicated code :)) Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPac2 Colourways vs System Pallete
Wolfgang Uhlig wrote: Now if I only had a clue where the colour is set, this is some damn complicated code. But that's very easy, actually :) No, I'm not talking about QCoCo but the QPAC2 action confirmation window, which is a little bit more buried and complicated. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPac2 Colourways vs System Pallete
No, I'm not talking about QCoCo but the QPAC2 action confirmation window, which is a little bit more buried and complicated. Okay, I confused the writer of this (also had a long night last night ;:) But even so, John could set the two colours to something he likes by editing them in his colourway/theme, couldn't he? Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPac2 Colourways vs System Pallete
Wolfgang Uhlig wrote: No, I'm not talking about QCoCo but the QPAC2 action confirmation window, which is a little bit more buried and complicated. Okay, I confused the writer of this (also had a long night last night ;:) But even so, John could set the two colours to something he likes by editing them in his colourway/theme, couldn't he? Yes, I could (and will) edit the theme file to reinstate the shaded area and vertical fill colours. However, Marcel is/was referring to a different point that I mentioned in one of my earlier messages and which appears to have uncovered a bug in the Files V1.26 action confirmation window item colours... Perhaps New Years Day is not the best day to be discussing such mind-bending topics :-) John ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPac2 Colourways vs System Pallete
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Malcolm Cadman wrote: ... And just when we thought it was safe to have v1.39 ... :-) Is that on your web site ? Nah, cannot. I did the updates for free but its basic status is still commercial. It can however be updated from the usual sources. I will have to now have a look at all these colour experiments that you have being doing. I've been preparing a demonstration .WIN file for years now, but I never seem to find the time to finish it. Umm ... the common problem, eventually we all seem to run out of time. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] QPac2 Colourways vs System Pallete
Has anyone else tried to set up the system palette to mimic the old black/green colourway? I have created what seems like a sensible theme using QCoCo but when I load it, Files V1.26 (QPac2 V1.42) exhibits the following behaviour: 1) The empty device name loose items in the Source/Destination Directory window are solid black rather than a white/green stipple 2) The View window ink is black (on black paper!) 3) The Sort by window unselected loose items (including ESC) are white-on-black instead of black-on-white 4) The Sort by window unavailable loose items are green-on-black instead of green-on-white Also, at the risk of upsetting Phoebus and Marcel, does anyone know how I can replace the colourful new system sprites with the boring old ones? :-) In case it's relevant, I'm using QPCII V3.23 (SMSQ/E V3.08) in High-colour mode... John ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPac2 Colourways vs System Pallete
John Hall wrote: Has anyone else tried to set up the system palette to mimic the old black/green colourway? Oops! Before someone sets off on a wild goose chase, I've now checked my old QPCII set-up and reminded myself that what I'm actually trying to achieve is the equivalent of the following QPac2 configuration: Main border colourway: white/green Menu window colourway: black/green However, my comments re. the Files thing in my previous message still apply... John ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPac2 Colourways vs System Pallete
John Hall wrote: Has anyone else tried to set up the system palette to mimic the old black/green colourway? No need as all these palettes are already inbuilt! There are 4 system palettes in the system and all are pre-set to the 4 old colourways. And of course you can configure Qpac2 to use any of the 4 palettes, just like before. 1) The empty device name loose items in the Source/Destination Directory window are solid black rather than a white/green stipple That's the Shaded area colour. 2) The View window ink is black (on black paper!) Probably application window colours. Also, at the risk of upsetting Phoebus and Marcel, does anyone know how I can replace the colourful new system sprites with the boring old ones? :-) You could add the smsq_gold_sysspr module to the SMSQ/E file, it should override the other one, or use the code therein to create a LRESPR extension. I think just the header has to be cut away for this to work. Or, simplest solution actually, just don't start in high colour mode ;-) Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
