Re: [ql-users] QXL RAM

2004-11-29 Thread ZN
Dave P and Phoebus Dokos wrote:

 My question is regarding an overclocked QXL. Mine is currently at 33MHz
 but my 68040 is for 40 (therefore an 80 MHz crystal could be installed)
 but I do not know if the ram could take that!

70ns FPM memory will support 50 or 60MHz bus speeds with ease. If it's
only running at 40MHz I would anticipate a large reduction in heat output
and current drawn.

70ns should be fine for 33MHz. The problem here is not really the RAM but
the GLUE chip on the QXL - it's already 'cheating' even at 20MHz, and uses
passes through it's logic array to generate delays for RAM timing. As bus
speed increases, differences from one GLUE to the next and differences in
operating temperature make the timings more and more crytical, 60ns RAM
just gives added leeway for timing mismatches courtesy of the GLUE chip.

N.

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Re: [ql-users] QXL RAM

2004-11-22 Thread dilwyn.jones
Don't know the answer, but looks like Phoebus's daughter has been at work again!
Dilwyn Jones
 
 From: Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2004/11/21 Sun PM 04:11:57 GMT
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [ql-users] QXL RAM
 
 Hi all,
 to bother the list once more with a rather simple question (which I hope
 someone will answer)
 
 Does anyone know if 514400-70 will function properly with my QXL (Which is
 clocked at 33MHz coincidentally)?
 
 Also does anyone know what's the correct placement of ZIP Rams to have the
 QXL at 4 Megs instead of 8?
 
 Phoebus
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Re: [ql-users] QXL RAM

2004-11-22 Thread Phoebus Dokos
 Mon, 22 Nov 2004 15:40:08 +,() [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
/wrote:

Don't know the answer, but looks like Phoebus's daughter has been at  
work again!
Dilwyn Jones
Nahh I just found dirt cheap brand new ones that are 70ns unfortunately ;-)
Phoebus
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Re: [ql-users] QXL RAM

2004-11-22 Thread Dave P


On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Phoebus Dokos wrote:

 Nahh I just found dirt cheap brand new ones that are 70ns unfortunately ;-)

How is 70ns a problem? That is well in excess of timing requirements for a
QXL, isn't it?

Dave


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Re: [ql-users] QXL RAM

2004-11-22 Thread Dave P


On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Phoebus Dokos wrote:

 My question is regarding an overclocked QXL. Mine is currently at 33MHz
 but my 68040 is for 40 (therefore an 80 MHz crystal could be installed)
 but I do not know if the ram could take that!

70ns FPM memory will support 50 or 60MHz bus speeds with ease. If it's
only running at 40MHz I would anticipate a large reduction in heat output
and current drawn.

Dave

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