Re: [ql-users] louder

2005-03-22 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], P Witte 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
I have a small amplified speaker setup that I used to sell with Q40s
when I was doing them. It fits into the 5.25 bay, is powered by a hard
drive cable and just needs a little fiddling with the input cable to
work.  I am sure these are available new still and cost around 20 pounds
with a volume control. I can get one for you if you want.
When I ordered the above for Per I accidentally ordered two of them so I 
have one spare if anyone else wants a built in, amplified sound system 
for his Q40/Q60. Cost is 23.50 pounds + shipping
--
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Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB
Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501  skype : royqbranch
web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk

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Re: [ql-users] louder

2005-03-20 Thread P Witte
Ffibys writes:

  I only want to play 20KHz samples to avoid the need for duplicate files
  across QPC2 and Qx0. Im not sure Rich did solve the problem, as QWord -
  beautiful as it looks on the Q60! - only beeps there, while it plays
  sampled
  sounds on QPC2.
 
  Per

 No, The Q60 DOES play sounds (I know because I have tried it :-) I did
 have both a Q60 and Q40 here so I tried both sides. I looked up my IM and
 email exchange with Rich on the matter and I remembered that  Wolfgang's
 player initialises everything at 20KHz, which messes up the sound4_bin
 driver. However if you play a file with copy foobar_ub TO SOUNDx first,
 the problem is gone.

Please mail me a copy of foobar_ub, as I dont seem to have this file*

 As for QWord on the Q60's sound not working, make sure:
 *

 Wolfgang's music player is ONLY used for the PAUSE annoying theme (my bad
 ;-) ). In general if you can copy the UB files from QWord to the SOUND
 devices installed by sound4_bin, QWord should be also playing sound (as it
 uses that sound driver -simplified things immensely-)

That must be the cause then. Thanks!

Per

* Bad joke. I once worked as a helpdesk agent, yknow ;)

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Re: [ql-users] louder

2005-03-20 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 05:25:51 -0500, Phoebus R. Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

cut
BTW: Rich I've replied to both your messages... are you getting my  
emails?
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Nope - you want to use my aol address Phoebus please...
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[ql-users] louder

2005-03-19 Thread P Witte
Hi guys,

Ive been fiddling around with sound on my Q60.

Problem 1) Im using a standard PC speaker, but the sounds are so faint as to
be barely audible. The Q60 manual says to use a speaker with an impedance of
32 or higher. Standard speakers are 8 Ohm, and I have yet to find an
electronics shop that has heard of a 32 Ohm one. Is there another way to do
this, or does anyone have a spare 3 - 4 speaker suitable for Qx0es kicking
around that I could buy?

Problem 2) Although barely audible, some samples recognisably sound the same
on the Q60 as on QPC2, but others either sound different or cannot be heard
at all. Any ideas? Or is this just a symptom of problem (1)?

Per

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Re: [ql-users] louder

2005-03-19 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:21:40 -, P Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Hi guys,
Ive been fiddling around with sound on my Q60.
Problem 1) Im using a standard PC speaker, but the sounds are so faint  
as to
be barely audible. The Q60 manual says to use a speaker with an  
impedance of
32 or higher. Standard speakers are 8 Ohm, and I have yet to find an
electronics shop that has heard of a 32 Ohm one. Is there another way to  
do
this, or does anyone have a spare 3 - 4 speaker suitable for Qx0es  
kicking
around that I could buy?

Problem 2) Although barely audible, some samples recognisably sound the  
same
on the Q60 as on QPC2, but others either sound different or cannot be  
heard
at all. Any ideas? Or is this just a symptom of problem (1)?

Per
Are you using the sound device by Simon Goodwin or Wolfgang's Extensions?
If you use the latter, you won't be able to play 10 or 40KHz samples which  
will sound too fast or too slow respectively.
There is a trick to get it to work correctly on the Qx0, however I do not  
exactly remember what I did. I am sure Rich has kept notes on the issue  
(and how we solved it)

Ffibys
BTW: Rich I've replied to both your messages... are you getting my emails?
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Re: [ql-users] louder

2005-03-19 Thread Tarquin Mills
Per Witte wrote:
 Hi guys,
 
 Ive been fiddling around with sound on my Q60.
 
 Problem 1) Im using a standard PC speaker, but the sounds are so faint
 as to be barely audible. The Q60 manual says to use a speaker with an 
 impedance of 32 or higher. Standard speakers are 8 Ohm, and I have yet 
 to find an electronics shop that has heard of a 32 Ohm one. Is there 
 another way to do this, or does anyone have a spare 3 - 4 speaker 
 suitable for Qx0es kicking around that I could buy?

Maplin sells PC case size speakers in 8 Ohm and 64 Ohm versions, I bought
a 64 Ohm one to replace the 8 Ohm one that came with the case and the 
loudness of sound improved. If you want louder sound SCAM International 
sell an external pair of loudspeakers with transformer, that can be 
plugged into the line out 3.5mm jack socket, this also has the 
advantage of stereo. 

This sounds like one to add to my Q60 FAQ.

 Problem 2) Although barely audible, some samples recognisably sound 
 the same on the Q60 as on QPC2, but others either sound different or 
 cannot be heard at all. Any ideas? Or is this just a symptom 
 of problem (1)?
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http://www.PetitionOnline.com/Spectrum/ (We want a Spectrum +4)
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Re: [ql-users] louder

2005-03-19 Thread Geogwilt
In a message dated 19/03/05 10:26:08 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

 
 Are you using the sound device by Simon Goodwin or Wolfgang's Extensions?
 If you use the latter, you won't be able to play 10 or 40KHz samples which  
 will sound too fast or too slow respectively.
 There is a trick to get it to work correctly on the Qx0, however I do not  
 exactly remember what I did. I am sure Rich has kept notes on the issue  
 (and how we solved it)
 
 

You don't need extensions to make sound. I have been experimenting on my Q60 
and Q40 by CALLing some simple assembler code which uses the SSS system 
directly. I am told that some of the sounds I produce are like wolf whistles. 
All 
you have to do is make up a mixture of sine waves of varying amplitude and 
frequency and listen to the result. Just to complete the program I display the 
first part of the two or three second wave on the screen.

George
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Re: [ql-users] louder

2005-03-19 Thread P Witte
Roy wood writes:

 Ive been fiddling around with sound on my Q60.
 
 Problem 1) Im using a standard PC speaker, but the sounds are so faint as
to
 be barely audible. The Q60 manual says to use a speaker with an impedance
of
 32 or higher. Standard speakers are 8 Ohm, and I have yet to find an
 electronics shop that has heard of a 32 Ohm one. Is there another way to
do
 this, or does anyone have a spare 3 - 4 speaker suitable for Qx0es
kicking
 around that I could buy?
 I have a small amplified speaker setup that I used to sell with Q40s
 when I was doing them. It fits into the 5.25 bay, is powered by a hard
 drive cable and just needs a little fiddling with the input cable to
 work.  I am sure these are available new still and cost around 20 pounds
 with a volume control. I can get one for you if you want.

Yes please! (I'll write to you seperately)

Thanks for all replies!

Per

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Re: [ql-users] louder

2005-03-19 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos
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I only want to play 20KHz samples to avoid the need for duplicate files
across QPC2 and Qx0. Im not sure Rich did solve the problem, as QWord -
beautiful as it looks on the Q60! - only beeps there, while it plays  
sampled
sounds on QPC2.

Per
No, The Q60 DOES play sounds (I know because I have tried it :-) I did  
have both a Q60 and Q40 here so I tried both sides. I looked up my IM and  
email exchange with Rich on the matter and I remembered that  Wolfgang's  
player initialises everything at 20KHz, which messes up the sound4_bin  
driver. However if you play a file with copy foobar_ub TO SOUNDx first,  
the problem is gone.
As for QWord on the Q60's sound not working, make sure:

a. That the installer did copy all the files properly.
b. Run config from the Qword directory and instruct QWord as to the  
appropriate subdirectory to find the sound files... One problem I have run  
into is that if you manually install QWord in a deeper subdirectory the  
sound file names get truncated or exceed the ability of the background  
Music task to correctly copy them to RAM (where it plays them from). If  
the sound files are not found in RAM, QWord IIRC will not stop but will  
switch to BEEP sounds instead. BTW: BEEP sounds were messed up on SMSQ/e  
v. 3.03  3.07 but were fixed again on SMSQ/e 3.08

Wolfgang's music player is ONLY used for the PAUSE annoying theme (my bad  
;-) ). In general if you can copy the UB files from QWord to the SOUND  
devices installed by sound4_bin, QWord should be also playing sound (as it  
uses that sound driver -simplified things immensely-)

Ffibys
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