Re: [Ql-Users] Aurora discussion

2011-09-22 Thread Lee Privett
Hi Dave, MAC owner reporting, however not knowing the elegant solution I am
unsure what you need the cables etc. for, I thought this was a software
manual conversion issue

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Dave Park plasticu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you Dilwyn!

 For those who suggest elegant Windows solutions, I foil thee with my Mac!

 It seems I need a few custom cables, and to reset some jumpers, and a
 keyboard interface.

 As I need to make cables for me, maybe others need cables too. If so,
 it would be a lot cheaper for me to make a batch of ten of each, for
 example...

 Who needs what, and are they available anywhere else?

 Dave

 On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Dilwyn Jones
 dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
  Dave Park wrote:
 
  To kick things off for this... Could someone kindly convert the Quill
  format manual to a format I can access, as I don't have a working
  Quill (or any of the Psion apps) for my QL...
 
  Then I'll be able to participate in my own discussion ;)
 
  Dave
 
  Hi Dave,
 
  I've sent Word DOC and PDF versions of both the Aurora Manual and
 Technical
  Guide to you privately.
 
  As I'm in the process of moving to my new PC and just found that the old
  HotMetalPro4 web page editor won't work on Win7-64bit (the installation
  program is rejected) I need to find another web page editor I'm
 comfortable
  with, ideally an HTML editor with a Tags view to flick between html
 source,
  tags view and WYSIWYG before I can resume updating my website to add
 these
  files there. Any suggestions for a reasonable free or cheap little
 editor?
  Until such time, I'll keep the old PC to hand just to update my website!
 
  Dilwyn Jones
 
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] Aurora discussion

2011-09-22 Thread Norman Dunbar

Morning Dave,

On 21/09/11 19:49, Dave Park wrote:

For those who suggest elegant Windows solutions, I foil thee with my Mac!
Ha! And I foil your Mac foiling attempts with my own cross platform 
QStripper tool! ;-)



1. Go to http://qt.nokia.com/downloads and download QT for Max OS-X 10.6 
(or later) 64 bit.


2. Install.

3. Go to http://sourceforge.net/projects/qstripper/files/qstripper/ and 
get the (latest) source code for QStripper.


4. Unpack.

5. Open the QT Creator IDE and load the qstripper.pro file, compile.


Now you have a completely MAC version of QStripper which allows you to 
load (multiple) Quill files and can export them in many formats:


* PDF (Text based, not bitmap)
* DocBook XML
* Text
* HTML

The DocBook XML output can be further processed, with a couple of 
additional tools, into:


* HTML (one file)
* HTML (sectioned)
* PDF (Better than default PDF above)
* ePub
* RTF
* WordML
* Etc.

Brief details in qstripper.html.

I know it compiles on Windows and Linux, I'd be interested to know if it 
compiles on MAC as well, unchanged.



Once you have QStripper working, why not try my cross platform QXL.WIN 
explorer program QxlWin? At present there's not an official download, 
but you can get a tarball from 
http://qxlwin.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/qxlwin/?view=tar or, 
alternatively, Subversion (Version Control) checkout is possible by 
running svn co https://qxlwin.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/qxlwin qxlwin.


Open qxlwin.pro in QT Creator, copile, run. Open a qxl.win style hard 
disc and explore 


Again, works fine on Windows and Linux, be interesting to know if it 
works on MACs too.


Cheers,
Norm.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Aurora discussion

2011-09-21 Thread Dave Park
To kick things off for this... Could someone kindly convert the Quill
format manual to a format I can access, as I don't have a working
Quill (or any of the Psion apps) for my QL...

Then I'll be able to participate in my own discussion ;)

Dave

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Dave Park plasticu...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have been looking at the assorted hardware I have and the online
 literature, and decided that the info doesn't cut it. I look at the
 knowledge and experience of the members on this list and know we can
 do a lot better.

 Take an example: The Aurora has a manual in Quill format, which I
 cannot access. However, the OS, drivers and etc have developed a lot
 since then, so I am sure those who know could outline the current
 state of play and answer questions from the peanut gallery - often
 what people want to know is not in the manual. Also, often, quirks and
 bugs have come to light, or been fixed, and people just don't know...

 What comes out of it is a repository of fresh information and
 discussion and a lot of people who can then take the info and use it
 to flesh out the QL wiki and technical library.

 To that end I think if we choose one interesting piece of hardware and
 one interesting piece of software each month, and discuss them in
 detail...

 I suggest to get the ball rolling, for the hardware we discuss Aurora,
 and for software, we discuss QPCII. The AUrora discussion can continue
 in this thread and QPCII discussion in a new thread I'll start in a
 minute.

 Dave

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Re: [Ql-Users] Aurora discussion

2011-09-21 Thread Bryan Horstmann

On 21/09/2011 04:44, Dave Park wrote:

To kick things off for this... Could someone kindly convert the Quill
format manual to a format I can access, as I don't have a working
Quill (or any of the Psion apps) for my QL...

Then I'll be able to participate in my own discussion ;)

Dave

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Dave Parkplasticu...@gmail.com  wrote:

I have been looking at the assorted hardware I have and the online
literature, and decided that the info doesn't cut it. I look at the
knowledge and experience of the members on this list and know we can
do a lot better.

Take an example: The Aurora has a manual in Quill format, which I
cannot access. However, the OS, drivers and etc have developed a lot
since then, so I am sure those who know could outline the current
state of play and answer questions from the peanut gallery - often
what people want to know is not in the manual. Also, often, quirks and
bugs have come to light, or been fixed, and people just don't know...

What comes out of it is a repository of fresh information and
discussion and a lot of people who can then take the info and use it
to flesh out the QL wiki and technical library.

To that end I think if we choose one interesting piece of hardware and
one interesting piece of software each month, and discuss them in
detail...

I suggest to get the ball rolling, for the hardware we discuss Aurora,
and for software, we discuss QPCII. The AUrora discussion can continue
in this thread and QPCII discussion in a new thread I'll start in a
minute.

Dave






Hello Dave,

I use a PC version of XCHANGE, Quill was also marketed by Psion 
separately as part of PC Four.  Quill files can be zipped, changed to PC 
format and then opened in PC Quill/Xchange.


Bryan H
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Re: [Ql-Users] Aurora discussion

2011-09-21 Thread Sjef van de Molengraaf
On 21 Sep 2011 at 16:52, Bryan Horstmann wrote:

 On 21/09/2011 04:44, Dave Park wrote:
  To kick things off for this... Could someone kindly convert the
  Quill format manual to a format I can access, as I don't have a
  working Quill (or any of the Psion apps) for my QL...
 
  Then I'll be able to participate in my own discussion ;)
 
  Dave
 
  On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Dave Parkplasticu...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
  I have been looking at the assorted hardware I have and the online
  literature, and decided that the info doesn't cut it. I look at
  the knowledge and experience of the members on this list and know
  we can do a lot better.
 
  Take an example: The Aurora has a manual in Quill format, which I
  cannot access. However, the OS, drivers and etc have developed a
  lot since then, so I am sure those who know could outline the
  current state of play and answer questions from the peanut gallery
  - often what people want to know is not in the manual. Also, often,
  quirks and bugs have come to light, or been fixed, and people just
  don't know...
 
  What comes out of it is a repository of fresh information and
  discussion and a lot of people who can then take the info and use
  it to flesh out the QL wiki and technical library.
 
  To that end I think if we choose one interesting piece of hardware
  and one interesting piece of software each month, and discuss them
  in detail...
 
  I suggest to get the ball rolling, for the hardware we discuss
  Aurora, and for software, we discuss QPCII. The AUrora discussion
  can continue in this thread and QPCII discussion in a new thread
  I'll start in a minute.
 
  Dave
 
 
 
 
 Hello Dave,
 
 I use a PC version of XCHANGE, Quill was also marketed by Psion 
 separately as part of PC Four.  Quill files can be zipped, changed to
 PC format and then opened in PC Quill/Xchange.
 

Or use Quill Stripper or Quill View in Windows.
You can save it in HTML- DOC or TXT-format. 
Or printen to a PDF-file.

Sjef van de Molengraaf

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Re: [Ql-Users] Aurora discussion

2011-09-21 Thread Dilwyn Jones

Dave Park wrote:

To kick things off for this... Could someone kindly convert the Quill
format manual to a format I can access, as I don't have a working
Quill (or any of the Psion apps) for my QL...

Then I'll be able to participate in my own discussion ;)

Dave


Hi Dave,

I've sent Word DOC and PDF versions of both the Aurora Manual and Technical 
Guide to you privately.


As I'm in the process of moving to my new PC and just found that the old 
HotMetalPro4 web page editor won't work on Win7-64bit (the installation 
program is rejected) I need to find another web page editor I'm comfortable 
with, ideally an HTML editor with a Tags view to flick between html source, 
tags view and WYSIWYG before I can resume updating my website to add these 
files there. Any suggestions for a reasonable free or cheap little editor? 
Until such time, I'll keep the old PC to hand just to update my website!


Dilwyn Jones 




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Re: [Ql-Users] Aurora discussion

2011-09-21 Thread Dave Park
Thank you Dilwyn!

For those who suggest elegant Windows solutions, I foil thee with my Mac!

It seems I need a few custom cables, and to reset some jumpers, and a
keyboard interface.

As I need to make cables for me, maybe others need cables too. If so,
it would be a lot cheaper for me to make a batch of ten of each, for
example...

Who needs what, and are they available anywhere else?

Dave

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Dilwyn Jones
dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
 Dave Park wrote:

 To kick things off for this... Could someone kindly convert the Quill
 format manual to a format I can access, as I don't have a working
 Quill (or any of the Psion apps) for my QL...

 Then I'll be able to participate in my own discussion ;)

 Dave

 Hi Dave,

 I've sent Word DOC and PDF versions of both the Aurora Manual and Technical
 Guide to you privately.

 As I'm in the process of moving to my new PC and just found that the old
 HotMetalPro4 web page editor won't work on Win7-64bit (the installation
 program is rejected) I need to find another web page editor I'm comfortable
 with, ideally an HTML editor with a Tags view to flick between html source,
 tags view and WYSIWYG before I can resume updating my website to add these
 files there. Any suggestions for a reasonable free or cheap little editor?
 Until such time, I'll keep the old PC to hand just to update my website!

 Dilwyn Jones


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Re: [Ql-Users] Aurora discussion

2011-09-21 Thread Roy Wood

On 21/09/2011 16:44, Dave Park wrote:

To kick things off for this... Could someone kindly convert the Quill
format manual to a format I can access, as I don't have a working
Quill (or any of the Psion apps) for my QL...

Then I'll be able to participate in my own discussion ;)

Dave

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Dave Parkplasticu...@gmail.com  wrote:

I have been looking at the assorted hardware I have and the online
literature, and decided that the info doesn't cut it. I look at the
knowledge and experience of the members on this list and know we can
do a lot better.

Take an example: The Aurora has a manual in Quill format, which I
cannot access. However, the OS, drivers and etc have developed a lot
since then, so I am sure those who know could outline the current
state of play and answer questions from the peanut gallery - often
what people want to know is not in the manual. Also, often, quirks and
bugs have come to light, or been fixed, and people just don't know...

What comes out of it is a repository of fresh information and
discussion and a lot of people who can then take the info and use it
to flesh out the QL wiki and technical library.

To that end I think if we choose one interesting piece of hardware and
one interesting piece of software each month, and discuss them in
detail...

I suggest to get the ball rolling, for the hardware we discuss Aurora,
and for software, we discuss QPCII. The AUrora discussion can continue
in this thread and QPCII discussion in a new thread I'll start in a
minute.

Dave


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I have it in Word format - drop me an email and I will send it to you.
Roy

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