Re: [Ql-Users] LaunchPad

2020-03-06 Thread simon629--- via Ql-Users
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On Friday, 6 March 2020, 17:54:55 GMT, Dilwyn (gmail) via Ql-Users 
 wrote:  
 
 Sadly, this list doesn't seem to allow graphics and the email was received 
as plain text anyhow, so the screen dump never came through.

Are you referring to the screen picture on http://qlheaven.blogspot.com/  by 
any chance?

That shows the most recent version of Launchpad, running in high colour 
mode, with a new system font (set from SBASIC with the CHAR_DEF command so 
ALL programs use that font by default, including Launchpad), and some GD2 
sprites presumably defined by the blog author for his/her own use (wonder if 
the blog author could be persuaded to share some of those nice sprites?).

There are only two "current" versions of Launchpad:

1. v0.96, the older version for systems without Window Manager 2

2. v2.10, the recommended version if your system supports WIndow Manager 2.

Both can be downloaded free of charge (password protection was removed back 
in 2017) from http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/gen/launchpad/demo/demo.html . I 
appreciate that the URL of the download page implies it's a demo, but 
nowadays the download is actually the full version.

Hope that helps,



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Hi can any one Help me on this Website QL QDOS and SMSQ/E Heaven
this is I think a old screen shot of  LaunchPad  I think the Q40/Q60 It 
Looks Very Good. I want would That Version work on QPC2 Emulator  If any one 
has it Could they  Installed on to a Win File for me OK All The Best Thanks 
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Re: [Ql-Users] LaunchPad

2020-03-06 Thread Dilwyn (gmail) via Ql-Users
Sadly, this list doesn't seem to allow graphics and the email was received 
as plain text anyhow, so the screen dump never came through.


Are you referring to the screen picture on http://qlheaven.blogspot.com/  by 
any chance?


That shows the most recent version of Launchpad, running in high colour 
mode, with a new system font (set from SBASIC with the CHAR_DEF command so 
ALL programs use that font by default, including Launchpad), and some GD2 
sprites presumably defined by the blog author for his/her own use (wonder if 
the blog author could be persuaded to share some of those nice sprites?).


There are only two "current" versions of Launchpad:

1. v0.96, the older version for systems without Window Manager 2

2. v2.10, the recommended version if your system supports WIndow Manager 2.

Both can be downloaded free of charge (password protection was removed back 
in 2017) from http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/gen/launchpad/demo/demo.html . I 
appreciate that the URL of the download page implies it's a demo, but 
nowadays the download is actually the full version.


Hope that helps,



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Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 5:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] LaunchPad

Hi can any one Help me on this Website QL QDOS and SMSQ/E Heaven
this is I think a old screen shot of   LaunchPad  I think the Q40/Q60 It 
Looks Very Good. I want would That Version work on QPC2 Emulator  If any one 
has it Could they  Installed on to a Win File for me OK All The Best Thanks 
Simon Foster


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Re: [Ql-Users] LaunchPad

2020-03-06 Thread Darren Branagh via Ql-Users
Hi Simon,

I'm not sure the mailing list permists atractments, as it's kit showing in
your mail... Either that or you are pasting it into the mail rather than
adding it as a jpeg or similar as a attachment.

Can't help if we can't see it...

Even so, it's likely been modded by the user to have a certain look.

Darren Branagh

Sent from My iPhone 11 Pro.

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> Hi can any one Help me on this Website QL QDOS and SMSQ/E Heaven
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Re: [Ql-Users] LaunchPad

2020-03-06 Thread simon629--- via Ql-Users
Hi can any one Help me on this Website QL QDOS and SMSQ/E Heaven
this is I think a old screen shot of   LaunchPad  I think the Q40/Q60 It  Looks 
Very Good. I want would That Version work on QPC2 Emulator  If any one has it 
Could they  Installed on to a Win File for me OK All The Best Thanks Simon 
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Re: [Ql-Users] Launchpad now freeware

2017-08-20 Thread Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users
If Q-Celt is losing a lot of revenue, then I am missing a HUGE amount of 
royalties from you Darren, he he (only joking!!!)


;-)

Dilwyn

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Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Launchpad now freeware

What All that revenue Q-Celt are losing now :-)


Darren Branagh

Sent from My Android Phone.

On 19 Aug 2017 23:40, "Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users" <ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com>
wrote:


My Launchpad software is now available to download as freeware from my
website.

Both version 1 (for older systems) and Launchpad 2 (for WMAN 2 systems)
are available. Go to the Launchpad page to download it - read the
description then click on the link to the Download page.

http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/gen/launchpad/launchpad.html

Dilwyn
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Re: [Ql-Users] Launchpad now freeware

2017-08-19 Thread Darren Branagh via Ql-Users
What All that revenue Q-Celt are losing now :-)


Darren Branagh

Sent from My Android Phone.

On 19 Aug 2017 23:40, "Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users" 
wrote:

> My Launchpad software is now available to download as freeware from my
> website.
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> Both version 1 (for older systems) and Launchpad 2 (for WMAN 2 systems)
> are available. Go to the Launchpad page to download it - read the
> description then click on the link to the Download page.
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> http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/gen/launchpad/launchpad.html
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Re: [Ql-Users] LaunchPad

2011-06-10 Thread Darren Branagh
Dil,

Dont throw the towel in so easily - Launchpad (QL) was here first, long
before Mac OS Lion. Now, if Mr. Jobs wants to offer you, say, 4 or 5 million
to change the name, then we'll talk. :)

Darren.

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Dilwyn Jones
dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.ukwrote:

  Dilwyn Jones wrote:

 Lee Privett wrote:

 Hmmn, Dilwyn contact your legal team, Apple in their new op system
 LION have a new feature with that same name (out next month)



 Now I like Dilwyn's Launchpad

 But I also like Apple's Launchpad

 So which is better...Fggtt

 He he...I suspect mine would work better on QDOS or SMSQ...theirs
 better on the fruitier machines ;-)

 Mine's been out so long it's high time I rewrote it and called it
 something else anyway (QL-Launchpad???). Might sell a few more then!

 Since there is proof of how long I used the name, I guess I can rely
 on you to send them a kind email telling them they have 48 hours to
 rename or remove every instance of their Launchpad worldwide ;-)

 (actually, I'd rather you didn't...)

 Seriously though, it's a common name for a program or task launcher
 anyway, I know of at least 2 freeware PC programs of that name. If
 they really feel concerned about the use of my name on a hundred or so
 1984 machines they are welcome to waste their money sending me a
 polite email or letter and I will send them an equally nice email or
 letter saying OK...

 You can guess I don't really care......

 BTW, your video upscalar for QL, what is latest on that? You said
 you'd sent them a QL to play with, that was the last I heard.

 AND, glad to see you are getting committee emails at last! My moaning
 email seems to have done the trick. Now what we need is prompting to
 get the website finished so we can all login to the CMS and start
 improving it. You chould check a CMS login has been set up for you. I
 assume you know what a Content Management System is, in fact you most
 probably have 10 times (at least) the experience of them I do.

 o)


 Dilwyn

 In hindsight, that was probably an unwise jokey reply, but
 light-heartedness apart (silly mood tonight for some reason) you get the
 idea of how I feel about this - if Apple were to tell me to stop using the
 name I would, as my Launchpad is quite an old product. I'd simply find a new
 name. Although somehow I don't think Apple would be too worried by an old
 program running on a 1984 computer.

 The references to the Quanta website refer of course to the fact that Lee
 is the new Editor of Quanta magazine. Sarah Gilpin is editing the issue
 currently in preparation and hopefully Lee will be in a position to take
 over from the following issue. I hope you'll all agree that his return to
 the QL scene and his high level of activity and ideas will be a real benefit
 to both Quanta and the QL scene in general.

 There, hopefully I've embarrassed him enough for now ;-)

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Re: [Ql-Users] LaunchPad

2011-06-10 Thread Tony Firshman

Darren Branagh wrote, on 10/Jun/11 14:37 | Jun10:



Dont throw the towel in so easily - Launchpad (QL) was here first, long
before Mac OS Lion. Now, if Mr. Jobs wants to offer you, say, 4 or 5 million
to change the name, then we'll talk. :)

Well it does happen.  i41 has just won $290m from Microsoft for a patent 
infringement in Word.


 now where did you register the LaunchPad trademark Dilwyn?   (8-)#

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Re: [Ql-Users] LaunchPad

2011-06-10 Thread Norman Dunbar

On 10/06/11 15:09, Tony Firshman wrote:

 now where did you register the LaunchPad trademark Dilwyn? (8-)#
With software, it doesn't even have to be registered. Prior use is all 
that is required.


Think back to the Firebird Database versus Mozilla Firebird (browser) a 
few years ago. The database had been called Firebird for years, but no 
trade mark is registered. When Mozilla came out and renamed their 
browser to Firebird, it hit the fan.


A cease and desist letter was all it took (eventually) to resolve the 
problem, and that's how Firefox was born. Had Mozilla not changed the 
name, court proceedings would have found in favour of the database. (So 
I'm told by the legal experts anyway.)


So, Dilwyn could, if he wanted, ask Apple to cease and desist. ;-)

Cheers,
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Re: [Ql-Users] LaunchPad

2011-06-10 Thread Dilwyn Jones

Darren Branagh wrote:

Dil,

Dont throw the towel in so easily - Launchpad (QL) was here first,
long before Mac OS Lion. Now, if Mr. Jobs wants to offer you, say, 4
or 5 million to change the name, then we'll talk. :)

Darren.

Thanks, I knew the Irish would look after me after UK gave them that 
banking loan ;-))


And, belated happy birthday wishes too... :o)

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Re: [Ql-Users] LaunchPad

2011-06-10 Thread Dilwyn Jones

Norman Dunbar wrote:

On 10/06/11 15:09, Tony Firshman wrote:
 now where did you register the LaunchPad trademark Dilwyn? 
(8-)#
With software, it doesn't even have to be registered. Prior use is 
all

that is required.

Think back to the Firebird Database versus Mozilla Firebird 
(browser)
a few years ago. The database had been called Firebird for years, 
but

no trade mark is registered. When Mozilla came out and renamed their
browser to Firebird, it hit the fan.

A cease and desist letter was all it took (eventually) to resolve
the problem, and that's how Firefox was born. Had Mozilla not 
changed

the name, court proceedings would have found in favour of the
database. (So I'm told by the legal experts anyway.)

So, Dilwyn could, if he wanted, ask Apple to cease and desist. ;-)

Cheers,
Norm.
He he, that's good to know, but I'm not that bothered by it. I daresay 
I could be cheeky and ask for a royalty on every copy of theirs that 
they sell ;-)


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Re: [Ql-Users] LaunchPad

2011-06-10 Thread Malcolm Lear


On 10/06/2011 15:37, Dilwyn Jones wrote:

Norman Dunbar wrote:

On 10/06/11 15:09, Tony Firshman wrote:

 now where did you register the LaunchPad trademark Dilwyn? (8-)#

With software, it doesn't even have to be registered. Prior use is all
that is required.

Think back to the Firebird Database versus Mozilla Firebird (browser)
a few years ago. The database had been called Firebird for years, but
no trade mark is registered. When Mozilla came out and renamed their
browser to Firebird, it hit the fan.

A cease and desist letter was all it took (eventually) to resolve
the problem, and that's how Firefox was born. Had Mozilla not changed
the name, court proceedings would have found in favour of the
database. (So I'm told by the legal experts anyway.)

So, Dilwyn could, if he wanted, ask Apple to cease and desist. ;-)

Cheers,
Norm.
He he, that's good to know, but I'm not that bothered by it. I daresay 
I could be cheeky and ask for a royalty on every copy of theirs that 
they sell ;-)


Dilwyn Jones

Go  for it Dilwyn!!!



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Re: [Ql-Users] LaunchPad

2011-06-10 Thread Malcolm Lear



On 10/06/2011 15:37, Dilwyn Jones wrote:

Norman Dunbar wrote:

On 10/06/11 15:09, Tony Firshman wrote:

 now where did you register the LaunchPad trademark Dilwyn? (8-)#

With software, it doesn't even have to be registered. Prior use is all
that is required.

Think back to the Firebird Database versus Mozilla Firebird (browser)
a few years ago. The database had been called Firebird for years, but
no trade mark is registered. When Mozilla came out and renamed their
browser to Firebird, it hit the fan.

A cease and desist letter was all it took (eventually) to resolve
the problem, and that's how Firefox was born. Had Mozilla not changed
the name, court proceedings would have found in favour of the
database. (So I'm told by the legal experts anyway.)

So, Dilwyn could, if he wanted, ask Apple to cease and desist. ;-)

Cheers,
Norm.
He he, that's good to know, but I'm not that bothered by it. I daresay 
I could be cheeky and ask for a royalty on every copy of theirs that 
they sell ;-)


Dilwyn Jones


The revenue may be enough to finance a ARM version of SMSQ :-)



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Re: [Ql-Users] LaunchPad

2011-06-10 Thread Dilwyn Jones

Malcolm Lear wrote:

On 10/06/2011 15:37, Dilwyn Jones wrote:

Norman Dunbar wrote:

On 10/06/11 15:09, Tony Firshman wrote:

 now where did you register the LaunchPad trademark Dilwyn?
(8-)#

With software, it doesn't even have to be registered. Prior use is
all that is required.

Think back to the Firebird Database versus Mozilla Firebird
(browser) a few years ago. The database had been called Firebird
for years, but no trade mark is registered. When Mozilla came out
and renamed their browser to Firebird, it hit the fan.

A cease and desist letter was all it took (eventually) to 
resolve

the problem, and that's how Firefox was born. Had Mozilla not
changed the name, court proceedings would have found in favour of
the database. (So I'm told by the legal experts anyway.)

So, Dilwyn could, if he wanted, ask Apple to cease and desist. ;-)

Cheers,
Norm.

He he, that's good to know, but I'm not that bothered by it. I
daresay I could be cheeky and ask for a royalty on every copy of
theirs that they sell ;-)

Dilwyn Jones


The revenue may be enough to finance a ARM version of SMSQ :-)

He he, bet Marcel is quaking in his boots at the thought of that!

Dilwyn Jones 




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Re: [Ql-Users] LaunchPad

2011-06-10 Thread Lee Privett
D, twice now Apple have tried to use the word iTV on their hardware
product 'Apple TV' and I can only assume the people who own ITV have
said cease and desist, this is interesting as the stock value of ITV
is well within small change for Apple. 

It's tempting as you have two options, contact them now as suggested
by the QL Users list members so that they oblige, change all the
documentation, programming and start beta testing 'Lion again delaying
the sale. 
The knock on effect is that the small boys took on the big boys and
won, media coverage and profile raising for the QL hurrah! 

The second option is to wait until the product 'Lion' is released, and
then contact them, too late to change so they give you loads of money
for the use of name, the knock on effect here is that the individual
took on the big boys and won, media coverage and profile raising for
the QL hurrah! Hey win/win

Hmmm can't fail, now where is that emoticon for tongue in cheek?

Thanks, Lee

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Re: [Ql-Users] LaunchPad

2011-06-10 Thread Lee Privett
So I had to check, Launchpad.com is already registered and so are many
of the alternatives, however the A.I. of the GoDaddy website through
up some funny alternatives
http://www.godaddy.com/domains/searchresults2.aspx?ci=42376isc=gfnnuk
03 

Thanks, Lee

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Re: [Ql-Users] LaunchPad

2011-06-10 Thread Dilwyn Jones

Lee Privett wrote:

D, twice now Apple have tried to use the word iTV on their hardware
product 'Apple TV' and I can only assume the people who own ITV have
said cease and desist, this is interesting as the stock value of ITV
is well within small change for Apple.

It's tempting as you have two options, contact them now as suggested
by the QL Users list members so that they oblige, change all the
documentation, programming and start beta testing 'Lion again 
delaying

the sale.
The knock on effect is that the small boys took on the big boys and
won, media coverage and profile raising for the QL hurrah!

The second option is to wait until the product 'Lion' is released, 
and
then contact them, too late to change so they give you loads of 
money

for the use of name, the knock on effect here is that the individual
took on the big boys and won, media coverage and profile raising for
the QL hurrah! Hey win/win

Hmmm can't fail, now where is that emoticon for tongue in cheek?

Thanks, Lee
Serves me right for trying to embarrass you earlier this week I guess 
:o(


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Re: [Ql-Users] LaunchPad

2011-06-08 Thread Dilwyn Jones

Lee Privett wrote:

Hmmn, Dilwyn contact your legal team, Apple in their new op system
LION have a new feature with that same name (out next month)



Now I like Dilwyn's Launchpad

But I also like Apple's Launchpad

So which is better...Fggtt
He he...I suspect mine would work better on QDOS or SMSQ...theirs 
better on the fruitier machines ;-)


Mine's been out so long it's high time I rewrote it and called it 
something else anyway (QL-Launchpad???). Might sell a few more then!


Since there is proof of how long I used the name, I guess I can rely 
on you to send them a kind email telling them they have 48 hours to 
rename or remove every instance of their Launchpad worldwide ;-)


(actually, I'd rather you didn't...)

Seriously though, it's a common name for a program or task launcher 
anyway, I know of at least 2 freeware PC programs of that name. If 
they really feel concerned about the use of my name on a hundred or so 
1984 machines they are welcome to waste their money sending me a 
polite email or letter and I will send them an equally nice email or 
letter saying OK...


You can guess I don't really care......

BTW, your video upscalar for QL, what is latest on that? You said 
you'd sent them a QL to play with, that was the last I heard.


AND, glad to see you are getting committee emails at last! My moaning 
email seems to have done the trick. Now what we need is prompting to 
get the website finished so we can all login to the CMS and start 
improving it. You chould check a CMS login has been set up for you. I 
assume you know what a Content Management System is, in fact you most 
probably have 10 times (at least) the experience of them I do.


:o)

Dilwyn 




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Re: [Ql-Users] LaunchPad

2011-06-08 Thread Dilwyn Jones

Dilwyn Jones wrote:

Lee Privett wrote:

Hmmn, Dilwyn contact your legal team, Apple in their new op system
LION have a new feature with that same name (out next month)



Now I like Dilwyn's Launchpad

But I also like Apple's Launchpad

So which is better...Fggtt

He he...I suspect mine would work better on QDOS or SMSQ...theirs
better on the fruitier machines ;-)

Mine's been out so long it's high time I rewrote it and called it
something else anyway (QL-Launchpad???). Might sell a few more then!

Since there is proof of how long I used the name, I guess I can rely
on you to send them a kind email telling them they have 48 hours to
rename or remove every instance of their Launchpad worldwide ;-)

(actually, I'd rather you didn't...)

Seriously though, it's a common name for a program or task launcher
anyway, I know of at least 2 freeware PC programs of that name. If
they really feel concerned about the use of my name on a hundred or 
so

1984 machines they are welcome to waste their money sending me a
polite email or letter and I will send them an equally nice email or
letter saying OK...

You can guess I don't really care......

BTW, your video upscalar for QL, what is latest on that? You said
you'd sent them a QL to play with, that was the last I heard.

AND, glad to see you are getting committee emails at last! My 
moaning

email seems to have done the trick. Now what we need is prompting to
get the website finished so we can all login to the CMS and start
improving it. You chould check a CMS login has been set up for you. 
I
assume you know what a Content Management System is, in fact you 
most

probably have 10 times (at least) the experience of them I do.


o)


Dilwyn
In hindsight, that was probably an unwise jokey reply, but 
light-heartedness apart (silly mood tonight for some reason) you get 
the idea of how I feel about this - if Apple were to tell me to stop 
using the name I would, as my Launchpad is quite an old product. I'd 
simply find a new name. Although somehow I don't think Apple would be 
too worried by an old program running on a 1984 computer.


The references to the Quanta website refer of course to the fact that 
Lee is the new Editor of Quanta magazine. Sarah Gilpin is editing the 
issue currently in preparation and hopefully Lee will be in a position 
to take over from the following issue. I hope you'll all agree that 
his return to the QL scene and his high level of activity and ideas 
will be a real benefit to both Quanta and the QL scene in general.


There, hopefully I've embarrassed him enough for now ;-)

Dilwyn Jones 




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Re: [Ql-Users] Launchpad

2007-10-06 Thread Matrassyl
 
In a message dated 06/10/2007 01:34:33 GMT Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

This was  an unforeseen side effect of a change made to allow fixing of 
top  left
corner after a resize, which works better for resizing, but has  this
effect. I'll try to change it when I manage to figure out exactly  what
is causing it.
Luckily, it is just inconvenient rather than a  serious bug.
-- 
Dilwyn Jones



Any chance of having the initial location coordinates of launchpad  
configuable in the config block or passed as a command string with  EX?
 
Thanks
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] Launchpad

2007-10-05 Thread Dilwyn Jones
This was an unforeseen side effect of a change made to allow fixing of 
top left
corner after a resize, which works better for resizing, but has this
effect. I'll try to change it when I manage to figure out exactly what
is causing it.
Luckily, it is just inconvenient rather than a serious bug.
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Subject: [Ql-Users] Launchpad


 Hi

 Does anyone know of a simple way of getting Launchpad to open at a
 specified
 location on the screen.
 My problem is that Launchpad 2.09 insists on opening its window at
 x=0 y=0
 on the display no matter how it is EXed. There seems to be no way to
 configure
 launchpad to open its windows at an exact location.
 Launchpad 2.06 can be made to open its windows at exact pixel
 co-ordinates.

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Re: [ql-users] Launchpad 2

2005-11-11 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

OK everyone, it's now there and ready to go. Thank you for your
patience.

Registered users should by now have received an email with the
instructions and password.

Yes, just received here ...

Will download the new version this evening.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Launchpad 2


 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn
 Jones
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

Those who got in touch re. the Launchpad 2
update, I am putting password protected zip files onto my website so
that users can download the update in their own time.

It will probably take a couple of days to set it all up, then I'll
email the passwords to registered users and announce it here when
it's
ready.

 Nice ... thanks.

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Re: [ql-users] Launchpad-was Q60 Blues

2005-01-04 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

In addition I have recently found it useful to set up icons for my 
own software, whether BASIC or C, as well as look at listings via my 
chosen editor. For the latter it interfaces with FileInfo2 to pick  up 
favourite editor software.

FileInfo 2 is brilliantly easy to interface to and I use it so much it 
seemed such an abovious thing to allow Launchpad to make use of it. 
Despite having used FileInfo 2 for so long, it still seems weird to 
select a non-executable in Launchpad and execute it and the right 
program magically (usually) appears!
Yes, it is a 'cool' feature.  And one that I had neglected to exploit 
that much. Another read of the manual reminded me :-)

Another neat thing is to run any Windows application from within 
Launchpad, as it interfaces with the QPC2 feature to do so.

Well, all credit to Marcel for that one. I'm just too lazy to go to 
Windows to start Notepad etc when I can do it from QPC2 instead if it's 
related to what I'm doing in QPC2 at the time (usually swapping files 
between Windoze and SMSQ/E when preparing articles and news columns for 
Toady).
Yes it makes the desktop environment convenient when swapping over 
files, finding their locations, etc.

And strange as it may seem, I do actually use Launchpad myself all the 
time - what's that, an author using his own software?

Unless it gets superceded by QDT of course.
QDT looks as though it is going to be more fully featured as a desktop, 
inevitably.  Yet I believe that both will find a place.

I have found Launchpad a good aid to programming, for example, as I have 
put all the icons for the compilers ( BASIC and C ), into one folder 
called 'Source' - irrespective of the actual directories that they are 
already placed in on the win drive itself.

Along with icons for the source text and their executables. It just 
makes it more convenient, rather than having to know the directories or 
searching through the win drive to find their location.  The added 
convenience is what desktops are all about.

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Re: [ql-users] Launchpad-was Q60 Blues

2005-01-03 Thread John Hall
Malcolm Cadman wrote:

  At present I have configured Launchpad to be extremely useful on
  my QPC2 system.
 
 Could you please tell me how to find the be extremely useful
 configuration option in Launchpad (and, indeed, in all my other
 software)? :-)

 OK ... you got me there, John.

 Explain more ... ?

Roy and Rich understood :-)

John

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Re: [ql-users] Launchpad-was Q60 Blues

2005-01-03 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Malcolm Cadman wrote:
At present I have configured Launchpad to be extremely useful on my
QPC2 system.
Could you please tell me how to find the be extremely useful
configuration option in Launchpad (and, indeed, in all my other
software)? :-)
Select the REPLACE WINDOWS option ;-)
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Re: [ql-users] Launchpad-was Q60 Blues

2005-01-03 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Hall 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Malcolm Cadman wrote:
 At present I have configured Launchpad to be extremely useful on
 my QPC2 system.

Could you please tell me how to find the be extremely useful
configuration option in Launchpad (and, indeed, in all my other
software)? :-)
OK ... you got me there, John.
Explain more ... ?
Roy and Rich understood :-)
OK ... point taken :-)
However, just to go on a bit further ...
Launchpad can be configured to your system with 'config_exe'.
Once running it can be set up to know the features of your system, there 
are 2 files that are saved with the information.

In addition I have recently found it useful to set up icons for my own 
software, whether BASIC or C, as well as look at listings via my chosen 
editor. For the latter it interfaces with FileInfo2 to pick up your 
favourite editor software.

Another neat thing is to run any Windows application from within 
Launchpad, as it interfaces with the QPC2 feature to do so.

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Re: [ql-users] Launchpad-was Q60 Blues

2005-01-03 Thread Dilwyn Jones
In addition I have recently found it useful to set up icons for my 
own software, whether BASIC or C, as well as look at listings via my 
chosen editor. For the latter it interfaces with FileInfo2 to pick 
up your favourite editor software.
FileInfo 2 is brilliantly easy to interface to and I use it so much it 
seemed such an abovious thing to allow Launchpad to make use of it. 
Despite having used FileInfo 2 for so long, it still seems weird to 
select a non-executable in Launchpad and execute it and the right 
program magically (usually) appears!

Another neat thing is to run any Windows application from within 
Launchpad, as it interfaces with the QPC2 feature to do so.
Well, all credit to Marcel for that one. I'm just too lazy to go to 
Windows to start Notepad etc when I can do it from QPC2 instead if 
it's related to what I'm doing in QPC2 at the time (usually swapping 
files between Windoze and SMSQ/E when preparing articles and news 
columns for Toady).

And strange as it may seem, I do actually use Launchpad myself all the 
time - what's that, an author using his own software?

Unless it gets superceded by QDT of course.
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Re: [ql-users] Launchpad-was Q60 Blues

2005-01-02 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Malcolm Cadman wrote
Yes, Quick Starts are good ... and an 'art' in themselves to write.
I wonder how many users on this list are now happily using Launchpad 
?

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Not many. Total sales is easily still in 2 figures. A lot of people 
said they liked the idea but were waiting for QDT, which makes sense 
as QDT will be THE product to have for those users with leading edge 
QL products and my guess is Launchpad will find its own little niche 
on lesser systems as people realise No GD2? No QDT

Hvaing used both, Malcolm, how do you see this going? I guess that 
like many things they both have their good points while being very 
different and distinct products.

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Re: [ql-users] Launchpad-was Q60 Blues

2005-01-02 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Malcolm Cadman wrote
Yes, Quick Starts are good ... and an 'art' in themselves to write.
I wonder how many users on this list are now happily using Launchpad 

--  Malcolm Cadman
Not many. Total sales is easily still in 2 figures. A lot of people 
said they liked the idea but were waiting for QDT, which makes sense as 
QDT will be THE product to have for those users with leading edge QL 
products and my guess is Launchpad will find its own little niche on 
lesser systems as people realise No GD2? No QDT

Hvaing used both, Malcolm, how do you see this going? I guess that like 
many things they both have their good points while being very different 
and distinct products.
Indeed, I think you are right.  When QDT does get going as full release 
and gets taken up it will be THE system as a desktop.  Which it what it 
is intended to be.  There needs to be a 'standard' system of GUI / WIMP 
so that all users can share a common experience.

At present I cannot do a like for like comparison between Launchpad and 
QDT.  As I have a full copy of Launchpad and only a Demo of QDT.

They have similarities and they have differences.
At present I have configured Launchpad to be extremely useful on my QPC2 
system.

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Re: [ql-users] Launchpad-was Q60 Blues

2005-01-02 Thread John Hall
Malcolm Cadman wrote:

 At present I have configured Launchpad to be extremely useful on my
 QPC2 system.

Could you please tell me how to find the be extremely useful
configuration option in Launchpad (and, indeed, in all my other
software)? :-)

John


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Re: [ql-users] Launchpad-was Q60 Blues

2005-01-02 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:08:31 -, John Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Malcolm Cadman wrote:
At present I have configured Launchpad to be extremely useful on my
QPC2 system.
Could you please tell me how to find the be extremely useful
configuration option in Launchpad (and, indeed, in all my other
software)? :-)
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Yes - EXEC menuconfig and choose the Learn option :-P
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Re: [ql-users] Launchpad-was Q60 Blues

2005-01-02 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Hall 
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Malcolm Cadman wrote:
At present I have configured Launchpad to be extremely useful on my
QPC2 system.
Could you please tell me how to find the be extremely useful
configuration option in Launchpad (and, indeed, in all my other
software)? :-)
You find it next to the 'No Crashing' check box
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Re: [ql-users] Launchpad-was Q60 Blues

2005-01-02 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Hall 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

Malcolm Cadman wrote:
At present I have configured Launchpad to be extremely useful on my
QPC2 system.
Could you please tell me how to find the be extremely useful
configuration option in Launchpad (and, indeed, in all my other
software)? :-)
OK ... you got me there, John.
Explain more ... ?
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Re: [ql-users] Launchpad-was Q60 Blues

2005-01-01 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Launchpad is less ambitious a project than QDT but you'd be amazed 
how many people have managed to make a total mess of it. I went as 
far as to supply it deliberately misconfigured so that people would 
have to read the instructions as I wouldn't expect anyone to be able 
to use it without instructions (Launchpad doesn't work when you get 
it unless you read how to configure it).
Umm ... I know what you are implying here.  Yet probably not a good 
approach to take as you really want people to be able to use it as 
readily as possible, with a few problems as possible; and not have 
to do a lot of figuring out for themselves.
If you can't see what I'm getting at, you've obviously never been on 
the receiving end of endless phone calls. When systems get easy enough 
ALMOST to use without a manual, people will only read the manual if 
you superglue it to their eyes and tie their arms behind their backs. 
In essence, configuration is the only thing stopping programs like 
Launchpad from being 'use it out of the box'. And as it was the first 
step which was the likeliest problem, this seemed like the best 
solution and it worked on the whole.

Remember that other WIMP ( Windows / Icons / Mouse / Pointer ) 
environments just appear ready to use on other systems to the user. 
No 'sweat' involved ... :-)
Until you get non-technical people involved. As soon as they want to 
do different things it's grab an expert and make him/her sweat 
instead.

The approach I took with Launchpad was inspired by Geoff Wicks - the 
Quickstart Guide. By and large, if you've read Geoff's little 
Quickstart guides you won't go far wrong with his software, which is 
what I was trying to achieve. The only real potential problem with 
Launchpad is the first step, i.e. where am I installed and where 
are my setup files. Once it's set up with the correct path name for 
where you placed it on your hard disk it's pretty well fire it up, 
feel your way and only resort to manuals when you get stuck. As I 
recall, you didn't get many problems beyond things like the changing 
of resolutions and colour depths which was a bit naughty of me anyway.

The Quick start guides are probably the best way with modern programs, 
most manufacturers issue them now. The big manual with my Epson 880 
printer is pretty useless, the Quick start guide is excellent. One the 
whole, people want to use it out of the box and resort ot manuals only 
when the going gets tough. Like the little CD-alarm-clock-radio I got 
for Christmas, I was able to plug it in and go as far as listening to 
the radio, setting the time and playing a CD went, and got the 4 page 
manual out for setting the alarms and setting up playlist programs to 
play tracks in different orders. Not quite the same order of things as 
complex computer software like Windows, RISC OS, SMSQ?E and QDT i 
suppose, but you get my drift I hope.

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Re: [ql-users] Launchpad-was Q60 Blues

2005-01-01 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Sat, 1 Jan 2005 at 16:10:07, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
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snip

The Quick start guides are probably the best way with modern programs,
most manufacturers issue them now. The big manual with my Epson 880
printer is pretty useless, the Quick start guide is excellent. One the
whole, people want to use it out of the box and resort ot manuals only
when the going gets tough.
Printers is a big topic right now with me.

I got an HP4250dtn (via Roy and www.hamiltone.co.uk).

An excellent printer - pity about the after sales 'help'.

I have not had -one- satisfactory exchange with HP, or indeed solutions
(from them).

This printer is so good, it sends emails.

How do I stop it sending XML emails

--- It doesn't send emails

Urmm, I got the three test emails

--- It doesn't have Digital Services

What are Digital Services?

--- Sending emails

Well unless it has a Little Green Man inside the
printer typing away, it DOES send emails

--- It doesn't

I wasn't sure whether he was referring to Little Green Men or emails!
At this point I realised there was no point in carrying on, and I told
him I would ring back to find someone who knew the product.
It was only after I put the phone down, I remembered this help desk was
in Northern Ireland!

I much later discovered the configuration item in the excellent browser
help interface.

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