Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 Dinner
I accidentally tasted some as a child! Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity and any auto corrections that are just wrong! ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 Dinner
Hi Geoff, I am sorry for my lack knowledge on the spelling of that nice brew from Scotland and Ireland. I stopped drinking both versions over 30 years ago. Not a nice thing to drink, personally it seems to interfere with my ability to eat food the next day and I can not think about QL programming and problems. So I have other things instead and when I say things, I do not mean Things... Regards, Derek On 05/09/14 16:48, Geoff Wicks wrote: On 04/09/2014 21:49, Derek Stewart wrote: Hi Geoff, I have got no problems with the menu, except I do not like whiskey these days... I was looking at the proposed activities, do you have a programme of events yet? Will I be able to update/buy software of hardware. Regards, Derek Thanks for the email, but tut, tut. Whiskey is Irish, but whisky Scottish. John is going to ask if there will be a drinks list available and also if we need to give/get advice about the various types of whisky. As far as the program is concerned I am now at the stage when I am twisting a few arms. What I am suggesting to people is that we keep the presentations relatively short in the hope that we can then have a good discussion with lots of ideas flying around. I still intend to stick to the three main themes of hardware. software and (electronic) communications. Another thing I would like to do is profile some of the classical software that has been preserved or re-released. I would be interested in hearing from a gamer who would like to demonstrate either in a formal presentation or informally at a table. I have already opened a Skype account for the workshop, although I still have to do final tests that my laptop can cope. As I am new to Skype I may need someone to sit beside me and hold my hand (metaphorically, of course). I hope to have at least one presentation via Skype. There will be no traders present at the event, although, of course, the German hardware developers will be there, Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On 04/09/2014 21:49, Derek Stewart wrote: Hi Geoff, I have got no problems with the menu, except I do not like whiskey these days... I was looking at the proposed activities, do you have a programme of events yet? Will I be able to update/buy software of hardware. Regards, Derek Thanks for the email, but tut, tut. Whiskey is Irish, but whisky Scottish. John is going to ask if there will be a drinks list available and also if we need to give/get advice about the various types of whisky. As far as the program is concerned I am now at the stage when I am twisting a few arms. What I am suggesting to people is that we keep the presentations relatively short in the hope that we can then have a good discussion with lots of ideas flying around. I still intend to stick to the three main themes of hardware. software and (electronic) communications. Another thing I would like to do is profile some of the classical software that has been preserved or re-released. I would be interested in hearing from a gamer who would like to demonstrate either in a formal presentation or informally at a table. I have already opened a Skype account for the workshop, although I still have to do final tests that my laptop can cope. As I am new to Skype I may need someone to sit beside me and hold my hand (metaphorically, of course). I hope to have at least one presentation via Skype. There will be no traders present at the event, although, of course, the German hardware developers will be there, Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Yep... whiskey is Irish. I believe whisky is some kind of floor cleaner from Scotland (Takes cover against incoming Gaelic barrage!!) Darren. On 5 Sep 2014 16:49, Geoff Wicks gtwi...@btinternet.com wrote: On 04/09/2014 21:49, Derek Stewart wrote: Hi Geoff, I have got no problems with the menu, except I do not like whiskey these days... I was looking at the proposed activities, do you have a programme of events yet? Will I be able to update/buy software of hardware. Regards, Derek Thanks for the email, but tut, tut. Whiskey is Irish, but whisky Scottish. John is going to ask if there will be a drinks list available and also if we need to give/get advice about the various types of whisky. As far as the program is concerned I am now at the stage when I am twisting a few arms. What I am suggesting to people is that we keep the presentations relatively short in the hope that we can then have a good discussion with lots of ideas flying around. I still intend to stick to the three main themes of hardware. software and (electronic) communications. Another thing I would like to do is profile some of the classical software that has been preserved or re-released. I would be interested in hearing from a gamer who would like to demonstrate either in a formal presentation or informally at a table. I have already opened a Skype account for the workshop, although I still have to do final tests that my laptop can cope. As I am new to Skype I may need someone to sit beside me and hold my hand (metaphorically, of course). I hope to have at least one presentation via Skype. There will be no traders present at the event, although, of course, the German hardware developers will be there, Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 Dinner
Evening Darren, Speaking as a Jock, can I just say that whisky does indeed taste like floor cleaner! I hate the taste of the stuff and beer as well. I like a nice glass of wine personally especially the fine fruit wines from Perth shire, Cairn O'Mhor. (Care no more!) Try them. The Bramble is like a fine port. The raspberry is divine. Avoid the strawberry unless you like sweeet wine. We have a bottle of 2000 Banana in the wine rack. Whiskey I cannot comment on as I would never bring myself to even taste anything whisky like. And finally, I hope everyone enjoys the evening and the food. It's neeps by the way! Neaps are tides. ;-) Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity and any auto corrections that are just wrong! ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 Dinner
I feel an international incident coming on over this ;-) Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Darren Branagh Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 6:27 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 Dinner Yep... whiskey is Irish. I believe whisky is some kind of floor cleaner from Scotland (Takes cover against incoming Gaelic barrage!!) Darren. On 5 Sep 2014 16:49, Geoff Wicks gtwi...@btinternet.com wrote: On 04/09/2014 21:49, Derek Stewart wrote: Hi Geoff, I have got no problems with the menu, except I do not like whiskey these days... I was looking at the proposed activities, do you have a programme of events yet? Will I be able to update/buy software of hardware. Regards, Derek Thanks for the email, but tut, tut. Whiskey is Irish, but whisky Scottish. John is going to ask if there will be a drinks list available and also if we need to give/get advice about the various types of whisky. As far as the program is concerned I am now at the stage when I am twisting a few arms. What I am suggesting to people is that we keep the presentations relatively short in the hope that we can then have a good discussion with lots of ideas flying around. I still intend to stick to the three main themes of hardware. software and (electronic) communications. Another thing I would like to do is profile some of the classical software that has been preserved or re-released. I would be interested in hearing from a gamer who would like to demonstrate either in a formal presentation or informally at a table. I have already opened a Skype account for the workshop, although I still have to do final tests that my laptop can cope. As I am new to Skype I may need someone to sit beside me and hold my hand (metaphorically, of course). I hope to have at least one presentation via Skype. There will be no traders present at the event, although, of course, the German hardware developers will be there, Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8160 - Release Date: 09/05/14 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On 05/09/2014 19:12, Norman Dunbar wrote: Evening Darren, Speaking as a Jock, can I just say that whisky does indeed taste like floor cleaner! I am just curious - how do you know what floor cleaner tastes like? Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Already underway :) I am a whiskey drinker thanks to both my grandad and dad. But only the really good stuff - typically Bushmills malt (the 10 year old one at a minimum) and Jameson crested ten. But I have to say some of the aged Scottish stuff is pretty good too. Dimple and Glenfiddich being favourites. Darren. On 5 Sep 2014 19:17, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: I feel an international incident coming on over this ;-) Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Darren Branagh Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 6:27 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 Dinner Yep... whiskey is Irish. I believe whisky is some kind of floor cleaner from Scotland (Takes cover against incoming Gaelic barrage!!) Darren. On 5 Sep 2014 16:49, Geoff Wicks gtwi...@btinternet.com wrote: On 04/09/2014 21:49, Derek Stewart wrote: Hi Geoff, I have got no problems with the menu, except I do not like whiskey these days... I was looking at the proposed activities, do you have a programme of events yet? Will I be able to update/buy software of hardware. Regards, Derek Thanks for the email, but tut, tut. Whiskey is Irish, but whisky Scottish. John is going to ask if there will be a drinks list available and also if we need to give/get advice about the various types of whisky. As far as the program is concerned I am now at the stage when I am twisting a few arms. What I am suggesting to people is that we keep the presentations relatively short in the hope that we can then have a good discussion with lots of ideas flying around. I still intend to stick to the three main themes of hardware. software and (electronic) communications. Another thing I would like to do is profile some of the classical software that has been preserved or re-released. I would be interested in hearing from a gamer who would like to demonstrate either in a formal presentation or informally at a table. I have already opened a Skype account for the workshop, although I still have to do final tests that my laptop can cope. As I am new to Skype I may need someone to sit beside me and hold my hand (metaphorically, of course). I hope to have at least one presentation via Skype. There will be no traders present at the event, although, of course, the German hardware developers will be there, Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8160 - Release Date: 09/05/14 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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I am really glad no one is spoiling MacAllen on you! Or Bowmore, Lagavulin, Bruichladdich, Port Ellen or Ardbeg! Greetings from Germany where single cask malts from Scotland are very welcome. Here it is, the international incident. Paul Am 05.09.2014 um 21:28 schrieb Darren Branagh darrenbran...@gmail.com: Already underway :) I am a whiskey drinker thanks to both my grandad and dad. But only the really good stuff - typically Bushmills malt (the 10 year old one at a minimum) and Jameson crested ten. But I have to say some of the aged Scottish stuff is pretty good too. Dimple and Glenfiddich being favourites. Darren. On 5 Sep 2014 19:17, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: I feel an international incident coming on over this ;-) Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Darren Branagh Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 6:27 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 Dinner Yep... whiskey is Irish. I believe whisky is some kind of floor cleaner from Scotland (Takes cover against incoming Gaelic barrage!!) Darren. On 5 Sep 2014 16:49, Geoff Wicks gtwi...@btinternet.com wrote: On 04/09/2014 21:49, Derek Stewart wrote: Hi Geoff, I have got no problems with the menu, except I do not like whiskey these days... I was looking at the proposed activities, do you have a programme of events yet? Will I be able to update/buy software of hardware. Regards, Derek Thanks for the email, but tut, tut. Whiskey is Irish, but whisky Scottish. John is going to ask if there will be a drinks list available and also if we need to give/get advice about the various types of whisky. As far as the program is concerned I am now at the stage when I am twisting a few arms. What I am suggesting to people is that we keep the presentations relatively short in the hope that we can then have a good discussion with lots of ideas flying around. I still intend to stick to the three main themes of hardware. software and (electronic) communications. Another thing I would like to do is profile some of the classical software that has been preserved or re-released. I would be interested in hearing from a gamer who would like to demonstrate either in a formal presentation or informally at a table. I have already opened a Skype account for the workshop, although I still have to do final tests that my laptop can cope. As I am new to Skype I may need someone to sit beside me and hold my hand (metaphorically, of course). I hope to have at least one presentation via Skype. There will be no traders present at the event, although, of course, the German hardware developers will be there, Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8160 - Release Date: 09/05/14 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 Dinner
On 01/09/2014 19:34, John Gilpin wrote: Hi Geoff, Please can you confirm that the Starters, Main Courses and Desserts advertised on the QL is 30 web site are interchangeable. That is, can we mix and match the courses - otherwise how do we plan our dinner? Are the Sample Menus fixed meals offered? What starter and Dessert go with the Haggis, Neaps and Tatties? or can we please ourselves? Please advise. Kind Regards, John Gilpin.(Confused QLer) QUANTA Membership Secretary and QUANTA Treasurer membership @quanta.org.uk treasurer @quanta.org.uk Our apologies for the uncertainty and the mixed messages there have been over the dinner. It has been just as confusing for us as for anyone else. The problem has arisen because we are dealing with two different sections of the hotel and we were getting mixed messages. We are being housed in one of the conference rooms and they are used to fixed tailor made menus with the price determined by the client. However we are being offered menus at the standard price. The problem with mix and match is that a combination taken from the three different menus could mean that some one chooses three items that in total come to more than the standard price and that would mean booking in advance and a possible increase in the cost. For this reason the hotel had suggested choosing one of the three standard menus. For clarification: Cranachan in menu 1 is toasted oatmeal soaked in whisky and raspberries in whipped cream and honey laced with whisky. Skirlie in menu 2 is toasted oatmeal mixed in mashed potato. Haggis bonbon is similar in appearance to a scotch egg, but with a filling of Haggis instead of egg. John Sadler and I thought that menu 3 was probably the best to opt for as it is the most neutral of the three, but we will listen to any opinions before booking. www.gwicks.net/qlis30dinner.htm Just a note about the bar arrangements. The room is situated on a different floor from the bars and restaurants. Our numbers are too small to justify a bar in the room, but there will be a waiter service. I hope this clarifies matters, Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Hi Geoff, I have got no problems with the menu, except I do not like whiskey these days... I was looking at the proposed activities, do you have a programme of events yet? Will I be able to update/buy software of hardware. Regards, Derek On 04/09/14 17:41, Geoff Wicks wrote: On 01/09/2014 19:34, John Gilpin wrote: Hi Geoff, Please can you confirm that the Starters, Main Courses and Desserts advertised on the QL is 30 web site are interchangeable. That is, can we mix and match the courses - otherwise how do we plan our dinner? Are the Sample Menus fixed meals offered? What starter and Dessert go with the Haggis, Neaps and Tatties? or can we please ourselves? Please advise. Kind Regards, John Gilpin.(Confused QLer) QUANTA Membership Secretary and QUANTA Treasurer membership @quanta.org.uk treasurer @quanta.org.uk Our apologies for the uncertainty and the mixed messages there have been over the dinner. It has been just as confusing for us as for anyone else. The problem has arisen because we are dealing with two different sections of the hotel and we were getting mixed messages. We are being housed in one of the conference rooms and they are used to fixed tailor made menus with the price determined by the client. However we are being offered menus at the standard price. The problem with mix and match is that a combination taken from the three different menus could mean that some one chooses three items that in total come to more than the standard price and that would mean booking in advance and a possible increase in the cost. For this reason the hotel had suggested choosing one of the three standard menus. For clarification: Cranachan in menu 1 is toasted oatmeal soaked in whisky and raspberries in whipped cream and honey laced with whisky. Skirlie in menu 2 is toasted oatmeal mixed in mashed potato. Haggis bonbon is similar in appearance to a scotch egg, but with a filling of Haggis instead of egg. John Sadler and I thought that menu 3 was probably the best to opt for as it is the most neutral of the three, but we will listen to any opinions before booking. www.gwicks.net/qlis30dinner.htm Just a note about the bar arrangements. The room is situated on a different floor from the bars and restaurants. Our numbers are too small to justify a bar in the room, but there will be a waiter service. I hope this clarifies matters, Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Am 04.09.2014 um 22:49 schrieb Derek Stewart de...@q40.de: I have got no problems with the menu, except I do not like whiskey these days… Can I have yours, then? ;) I’m fine with the menu as well. Cheers, Tobias ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Hi Geoff, Please can you confirm that the Starters, Main Courses and Desserts advertised on the QL is 30 web site are interchangeable. That is, can we mix and match the courses - otherwise how do we plan our dinner? Are the Sample Menus fixed meals offered? What starter and Dessert go with the Haggis, Neaps and Tatties? or can we please ourselves? Please advise. Kind Regards, John Gilpin.(Confused QLer) QUANTA Membership Secretary and QUANTA Treasurer membership @quanta.org.uk treasurer @quanta.org.uk On 25/08/2014 13:27, John Gilpin wrote: Hi Geoff, Count us (Sarah I) in for the Neaps and Tatties!! See you in October. Kind Regards, John Gilpin. QUANTA Membership Secretary and QUANTA Treasurer membership @quanta.org.uk treasurer @quanta.org.uk On 24/08/2014 18:46, Geoff Wicks wrote: Just a reminder that payments for the QLis30 dinner should be made by next weekend. Because of continuing problems with the SQLUG bank account we are asking all people to pay by the Quanta PayPal account: https//quanta.org.uk/ql-30 This will take you directly to Quanta's PayPal account for the dinner. Many thanks to Quanta for this facility. We would have been in a difficult situation without them. The Holiday Inn have indicated that if we want they would make the main course the quintessential Scottish meal of Haggis, Tatties and Neaps often accompanied by a wee dram. (Tatties are potatoes and neaps turnips) Haggis is sheep's offal cooked with onion, oatmeal and spices and tastes far nicer than it sounds. I had some delightful haggis for breakfast at Kinlochbervie in June. However it is not to everyone's liking and we would like to hear your opinions. Aparently there is a regional dish in North Hesse called weckewerk that is a form of Haggis, Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 dinner - urgent
On 13/08/2014 17:45, John Gilpin wrote: Hi all intended diners at QL is 30 Dinner. QUANTA has, today added an extra page to it's Web Site containing two new PayPal Payment buttons which can be used to pay for the dinner at the QL is 30 event. In an effort to limit the possibility of misuse by the general public who have general access to this site, this new page has not been added to the navigation details and will therefore be difficult for anyone to find without the following info:- Please enter (or Copy) the FULL URL into your browser. The URL is https://quanta.org.uk/ql-30/ any problems, please let me know. Kind Regards, John Gilpin. QUANTA Membership Secretary and QUANTA Treasurer membership @quanta.org.uk treasurer @quanta.org.uk I cannot find the above link mentioned anywhere on the Forum. This means that for those QLers who only read the Forum and do not read these pages, they will be unable to order their dinner. Do you think the above link should be advertised on the Forum? Michael ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Hi all intended diners at QL is 30 Dinner. QUANTA has, today added an extra page to it's Web Site containing two new PayPal Payment buttons which can be used to pay for the dinner at the QL is 30 event. In an effort to limit the possibility of misuse by the general public who have general access to this site, this new page has not been added to the navigation details and will therefore be difficult for anyone to find without the following info:- Please enter (or Copy) the FULL URL into your browser. The URL is https://quanta.org.uk/ql-30/ any problems, please let me know. Kind Regards, John Gilpin. QUANTA Membership Secretary and QUANTA Treasurer membership @quanta.org.uk treasurer @quanta.org.uk On 11/08/2014 08:38, jms1 wrote: Dear QLis30 Diners The problem is that I am not well versed in electronic methods of payment. I believe that PayPal will let you transfer money with a credit card, but all the information the receiver gets is an email address. So perhaps a separate email with the details may be the answer. I believe in the UK if you use internet banking you can transfer the money direct with little or no charge, using SQLUG bank account sort code and account number. I can return an email with these details. Other methods by the banks seem to incur a charge more than the value of the dinner! I would be pleased if somebody who uses these methods could advise on the best methods. John Sadler On 2014-08-10 19:25, Geoff Wicks wrote: transfer mo The QLis30 workshop dinner will be held on Friday 10th October in the Holiday Inn, 132 Corstorphine Road, Edinburgh, EH12 6UA. The Holiday Inn is about 2 km from the QLis30 workshop venue in the direction of the city centre. It is near the Edinburgh Zoo and is served by the airport bus. www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.9431159,-3.266964,16z The room is booked from 19.00 to 23.00 and the final menu is still to be decided, but it will have a Scottish theme. SPECIAL DIETARY NEEDS Please inform us of any special dietary needs, including vegetarian, when booking as we have to inform the Holiday Inn in advance. The cost is £25 for a three course meal plus coffee. As the Holiday Inn requires payment in full a month in advance all bookings must be in and fully paid by the end of August. PAYMENT METHODS For obvious security reasons we are unable to put bank account and personal contact details online and would ask you to use one of the following procedures. 1: Payment by cheque for £25 made out to SQLUG and sent to John Sadler. For John's contact details please use the email link on the SQLUG website: www.jms1.supanet.com/SQLUG/intro.htm 2: Payment by PaYPaL. Quanta has kindly agreed to allow payment via their PayPal account. This may be the cheapest way for non-UK-ers to pay. There is a charge for using PayPal and, for foreign currency users, exchange and transfer costs. UK users should pay £26 and non UK users £28. For details of how to pay via the PayPal website please contact Quanta's treasurer via their website link: www.quanta.org.uk If paying by any form of transfer please ensure that QLis30 and your name are included in the payment details. Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 dinner - urgent
On 13/08/2014 17:45, John Gilpin wrote: Hi all intended diners at QL is 30 Dinner. QUANTA has, today added an extra page to it's Web Site containing two new PayPal Payment buttons which can be used to pay for the dinner at the QL is 30 event. In an effort to limit the possibility of misuse by the general public who have general access to this site, this new page has not been added to the navigation details and will therefore be difficult for anyone to find without the following info:- Please enter (or Copy) the FULL URL into your browser. The URL is https://quanta.org.uk/ql-30/ any problems, please let me know. Kind Regards, John Gilpin. QUANTA Membership Secretary and QUANTA Treasurer membership @quanta.org.uk treasurer @quanta.org.uk Thanks John. This is very helpful, Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Dear QLis30 Diners The problem is that I am not well versed in electronic methods of payment. I believe that PayPal will let you transfer money with a credit card, but all the information the receiver gets is an email address. So perhaps a separate email with the details may be the answer. I believe in the UK if you use internet banking you can transfer the money direct with little or no charge, using SQLUG bank account sort code and account number. I can return an email with these details. Other methods by the banks seem to incur a charge more than the value of the dinner! I would be pleased if somebody who uses these methods could advise on the best methods. John Sadler On 2014-08-10 19:25, Geoff Wicks wrote: transfer mo The QLis30 workshop dinner will be held on Friday 10th October in the Holiday Inn, 132 Corstorphine Road, Edinburgh, EH12 6UA. The Holiday Inn is about 2 km from the QLis30 workshop venue in the direction of the city centre. It is near the Edinburgh Zoo and is served by the airport bus. www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.9431159,-3.266964,16z The room is booked from 19.00 to 23.00 and the final menu is still to be decided, but it will have a Scottish theme. SPECIAL DIETARY NEEDS Please inform us of any special dietary needs, including vegetarian, when booking as we have to inform the Holiday Inn in advance. The cost is £25 for a three course meal plus coffee. As the Holiday Inn requires payment in full a month in advance all bookings must be in and fully paid by the end of August. PAYMENT METHODS For obvious security reasons we are unable to put bank account and personal contact details online and would ask you to use one of the following procedures. 1: Payment by cheque for £25 made out to SQLUG and sent to John Sadler. For John's contact details please use the email link on the SQLUG website: www.jms1.supanet.com/SQLUG/intro.htm 2: Payment by PaYPaL. Quanta has kindly agreed to allow payment via their PayPal account. This may be the cheapest way for non-UK-ers to pay. There is a charge for using PayPal and, for foreign currency users, exchange and transfer costs. UK users should pay £26 and non UK users £28. For details of how to pay via the PayPal website please contact Quanta's treasurer via their website link: www.quanta.org.uk If paying by any form of transfer please ensure that QLis30 and your name are included in the payment details. Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 dinner - urgent
I have recently sent money via bank transfer to the uk twice for the cottages I used in the holidays. This was free of charge. I needed a IBAN and BIC for this. Unfortunately the amount transferred isn't very precise as we can only transfer euro from here and exchange rate isn't fixed. But this worked ok. Kind regards Paul Am 11.08.2014 um 09:38 schrieb jms1 j...@supanet.com: Dear QLis30 Diners The problem is that I am not well versed in electronic methods of payment. I believe that PayPal will let you transfer money with a credit card, but all the information the receiver gets is an email address. So perhaps a separate email with the details may be the answer. I believe in the UK if you use internet banking you can transfer the money direct with little or no charge, using SQLUG bank account sort code and account number. I can return an email with these details. Other methods by the banks seem to incur a charge more than the value of the dinner! I would be pleased if somebody who uses these methods could advise on the best methods. John Sadler On 2014-08-10 19:25, Geoff Wicks wrote: transfer mo The QLis30 workshop dinner will be held on Friday 10th October in the Holiday Inn, 132 Corstorphine Road, Edinburgh, EH12 6UA. The Holiday Inn is about 2 km from the QLis30 workshop venue in the direction of the city centre. It is near the Edinburgh Zoo and is served by the airport bus. www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.9431159,-3.266964,16z The room is booked from 19.00 to 23.00 and the final menu is still to be decided, but it will have a Scottish theme. SPECIAL DIETARY NEEDS Please inform us of any special dietary needs, including vegetarian, when booking as we have to inform the Holiday Inn in advance. The cost is £25 for a three course meal plus coffee. As the Holiday Inn requires payment in full a month in advance all bookings must be in and fully paid by the end of August. PAYMENT METHODS For obvious security reasons we are unable to put bank account and personal contact details online and would ask you to use one of the following procedures. 1: Payment by cheque for £25 made out to SQLUG and sent to John Sadler. For John's contact details please use the email link on the SQLUG website: www.jms1.supanet.com/SQLUG/intro.htm 2: Payment by PaYPaL. Quanta has kindly agreed to allow payment via their PayPal account. This may be the cheapest way for non-UK-ers to pay. There is a charge for using PayPal and, for foreign currency users, exchange and transfer costs. UK users should pay £26 and non UK users £28. For details of how to pay via the PayPal website please contact Quanta's treasurer via their website link: www.quanta.org.uk If paying by any form of transfer please ensure that QLis30 and your name are included in the payment details. Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 dinner - urgent
Hi John, Can you post a menu for the dinner. Is there any arranged for Saturday night. Regards, Derek On 11/08/14 08:38, jms1 wrote: Dear QLis30 Diners The problem is that I am not well versed in electronic methods of payment. I believe that PayPal will let you transfer money with a credit card, but all the information the receiver gets is an email address. So perhaps a separate email with the details may be the answer. I believe in the UK if you use internet banking you can transfer the money direct with little or no charge, using SQLUG bank account sort code and account number. I can return an email with these details. Other methods by the banks seem to incur a charge more than the value of the dinner! I would be pleased if somebody who uses these methods could advise on the best methods. John Sadler On 2014-08-10 19:25, Geoff Wicks wrote: transfer mo The QLis30 workshop dinner will be held on Friday 10th October in the Holiday Inn, 132 Corstorphine Road, Edinburgh, EH12 6UA. The Holiday Inn is about 2 km from the QLis30 workshop venue in the direction of the city centre. It is near the Edinburgh Zoo and is served by the airport bus. www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.9431159,-3.266964,16z The room is booked from 19.00 to 23.00 and the final menu is still to be decided, but it will have a Scottish theme. SPECIAL DIETARY NEEDS Please inform us of any special dietary needs, including vegetarian, when booking as we have to inform the Holiday Inn in advance. The cost is £25 for a three course meal plus coffee. As the Holiday Inn requires payment in full a month in advance all bookings must be in and fully paid by the end of August. PAYMENT METHODS For obvious security reasons we are unable to put bank account and personal contact details online and would ask you to use one of the following procedures. 1: Payment by cheque for £25 made out to SQLUG and sent to John Sadler. For John's contact details please use the email link on the SQLUG website: www.jms1.supanet.com/SQLUG/intro.htm 2: Payment by PaYPaL. Quanta has kindly agreed to allow payment via their PayPal account. This may be the cheapest way for non-UK-ers to pay. There is a charge for using PayPal and, for foreign currency users, exchange and transfer costs. UK users should pay £26 and non UK users £28. For details of how to pay via the PayPal website please contact Quanta's treasurer via their website link: www.quanta.org.uk If paying by any form of transfer please ensure that QLis30 and your name are included in the payment details. Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 dinner - urgent
No problem Peter. I pay for you in advance Kind regards Paul Am 11.08.2014 um 00:21 schrieb Peter Graf pg...@q40.de: Geoff Wicks wrote: 1: Payment by cheque for £25 made out to SQLUG and sent to John Sadler. Probably not possible from outside the UK. 2: Payment by PaYPaL. Quanta has kindly agreed to allow payment via their PayPal account. This may be the cheapest way for non-UK-ers to pay. I have no PayPal account. (And do not want one for good reasons.) What now? Let a friend borrow it and bring cash? Peter ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 dinner
That is 100% false. Deep fried marsbars were advertised in chippies in Edinburgh in 1993 when I first went to Uni. Graeme On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 07:32:19PM +0100, Dilwyn Jones wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep-fried_Mars_bar - The dish is said to have been created in 1995 in the Haven Chip Bar (now the Carron) in Stonehaven, near Aberdeen on Scotland's northeast coast. Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Norman Dunbar Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 7:11 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 dinner Speaking as a Jock in exile, I can honestly say that I have never seen a deep fried Mars bar, in batter or otherwise, anywhere but in the deepest darkest county of England. Further south from where I am, a deep fried Creme Egg is De rigeur. Yuk. DFMBS are available here in Leeds aplenty. Cheers, Norm. Sent from my phone - please excuse brevity and any obvious auto corrections that were just plain wrong! ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 dinner - partners permitted?
Sorry I note I had not made it clear if wives and partners were permitted at the dinner. Of course they are!, Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 dinner
Hi, I am coming up to Edinburgh on Friday, so will be having dinner every night. Scottish food is the best, but I most things. Regards, Derek On 19/06/14 08:46, Colin Mckay wrote: I expect to attend the event, and the evening meal. I opt for the carvery. If this is to be at the Toby Carvery in Corstorphine, then I can thoroughly recommend it from visits there approximately 4 years ago. However, seating probably would be on the basis of find a seat for yourself. At lunch times it can be quite crowded. Is it expected that accompanying womenfolk will be welcome to attend the dinner? Colin McKay 34 Taylor Avenue Tel/fax 01505 70 4471 Kilbarchan Johnstone Renfrewshire PA10 2LS ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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I an Not shure wether I would be allowed to attend the if my wife wasn't welcome :shock: Am 19.06.2014 um 09:46 schrieb Colin Mckay kilbarchan.co...@virginmedia.com: I expect to attend the event, and the evening meal. I opt for the carvery. If this is to be at the Toby Carvery in Corstorphine, then I can thoroughly recommend it from visits there approximately 4 years ago. However, seating probably would be on the basis of find a seat for yourself. At lunch times it can be quite crowded. Is it expected that accompanying womenfolk will be welcome to attend the dinner? Colin McKay 34 Taylor Avenue Tel/fax 01505 70 4471 Kilbarchan Johnstone Renfrewshire PA10 2LS ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 dinner
Update from my side: Flights (easyjet from Basel), Car and Hotel are booked now. Arriving on Wednesday with my family, the trip will have 3 major topics Scotland, Edinburgh and the QLis30 workshop. I prefer a QLers dinner on Friday. Other family members should be allowed/welcomed ;-), but I think my folks will enjoy this evening on their own (let Daddy talk on his QL things) ;-). @Geoff: When running the QLis25 show in 2009 I had great success using Doddle to manage attendance for both the show and dinner, including preferences. It's easy to setup and use and it's free. http://doodle.com/en_GB/ In my opinion emails on this list are ok but will not reach the complete QL community and may not show the full picture. Cheers, Urs ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 dinner
Hi Paul, Well, my wife will be coming, whether welcome or not. Regards, Derek On 19/06/14 09:36, p...@zx81.de wrote: I an Not shure wether I would be allowed to attend the if my wife wasn't welcome :shock: Am 19.06.2014 um 09:46 schrieb Colin Mckay kilbarchan.co...@virginmedia.com: I expect to attend the event, and the evening meal. I opt for the carvery. If this is to be at the Toby Carvery in Corstorphine, then I can thoroughly recommend it from visits there approximately 4 years ago. However, seating probably would be on the basis of find a seat for yourself. At lunch times it can be quite crowded. Is it expected that accompanying womenfolk will be welcome to attend the dinner? Colin McKay 34 Taylor Avenue Tel/fax 01505 70 4471 Kilbarchan Johnstone Renfrewshire PA10 2LS ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 dinner
On 18/06/2014 21:49, p...@zx81.de wrote: As I am coming from a foreign country I definitely prefer a Scottish meal when I visit Scotland. I have thought up a good Scottish Menu ;-) Starter: Porridge Main Course: Haggis, Tatties and Neeps Dessert: Deep Fried Mars Bar (Well that's buggered up my working relationship with SQLUG!) Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 dinner
On 19/06/2014 08:46, Colin Mckay wrote: I expect to attend the event, and the evening meal. I opt for the carvery. If this is to be at the Toby Carvery in Corstorphine, then I can thoroughly recommend it from visits there approximately 4 years ago. However, seating probably would be on the basis of find a seat for yourself. At lunch times it can be quite crowded. Is it expected that accompanying womenfolk will be welcome to attend the dinner? Colin McKay 34 Taylor Avenue Tel/fax 01505 70 4471 Kilbarchan Johnstone Renfrewshire PA10 2LS ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Actually if it is the Carvery it will be in the Holiday Inn as we think that will be the a venue that could accommodate a large number, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 dinner
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep-fried_Mars_bar - The dish is said to have been created in 1995 in the Haven Chip Bar (now the Carron) in Stonehaven, near Aberdeen on Scotland's northeast coast. Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Norman Dunbar Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 7:11 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 dinner Speaking as a Jock in exile, I can honestly say that I have never seen a deep fried Mars bar, in batter or otherwise, anywhere but in the deepest darkest county of England. Further south from where I am, a deep fried Creme Egg is De rigeur. Yuk. DFMBS are available here in Leeds aplenty. Cheers, Norm. Sent from my phone - please excuse brevity and any obvious auto corrections that were just plain wrong! ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 dinner
Evening Dilwyn, Stonehaven is a place I visited frequently when I was working in Aberdeen. I never saw one there either. However, that is not to say that there were none of course. I left Aberdeen for deepest darkest Leeds (Bradford at the time) in 1996 so maybe I missed it. :-) Alison partook of a deep fried and battered Picnic bar recently, in a local Italian that we frequent. I think the chef did it as a joke. I abstained on the grounds of culinary taste! ;-) Haggis, neeps and tatties, on the other hans, are right up my street. As long as it is not one of those awful MacSweens (MacSweans?) haggis. They are particularly offal! :-) Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 dinner
Hi, I would prefer Shovies. Regards Derek Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk wrote: Evening Dilwyn, Stonehaven is a place I visited frequently when I was working in Aberdeen. I never saw one there either. However, that is not to say that there were none of course. I left Aberdeen for deepest darkest Leeds (Bradford at the time) in 1996 so maybe I missed it. :-) Alison partook of a deep fried and battered Picnic bar recently, in a local Italian that we frequent. I think the chef did it as a joke. I abstained on the grounds of culinary taste! ;-) Haggis, neeps and tatties, on the other hans, are right up my street. As long as it is not one of those awful MacSweens (MacSweans?) haggis. They are particularly offal! :-) Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 dinner
Geoff, my 2ct on that: Italian and Chinese can be had just about everywhere in the world - British food (maybe for one or the other good reason ;) ) only in the UK. As a foreign visitor, I’d vote for the local food. With respect to the „when“ question, I’d personally prefer to have the dinner /before/ the workshop - An informal event like that makes it easier getting to know each other (or rather, align faces to names we all know for long) and will ease conversation the next day, I’d guess. It could well be that groups of people with similar interest would gather for some more food and drinks Saturday anyhow…... Tobias ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 dinner
Geoff knows (I think) I'm unlikely to be able to attend in person as things stand, although I might make an appearance by Skype. If I did attend, I'd have no particular preference for food type. I agree with Tobias though that a formal dinner the night before the event would be better, giving people a chance to get to know each other and then of course anyone staying Saturday night could again meet up informally to continue the chats and new friendships :-) Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Tobias Fröschle Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 5:14 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 dinner Geoff, my 2ct on that: Italian and Chinese can be had just about everywhere in the world - British food (maybe for one or the other good reason ;) ) only in the UK. As a foreign visitor, I’d vote for the local food. With respect to the „when“ question, I’d personally prefer to have the dinner /before/ the workshop - An informal event like that makes it easier getting to know each other (or rather, align faces to names we all know for long) and will ease conversation the next day, I’d guess. It could well be that groups of people with similar interest would gather for some more food and drinks Saturday anyhow…... Tobias ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 dinner
Ok, so get Breakfast...;-) - Original Message - From: Tobias Fröschle Italian and Chinese can be had just about everywhere in the world - British food (maybe for one or the other good reason ;) ) only in the UK. As a foreign visitor, I’d vote for the local food. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 dinner
Dilwyn Jones wrote: If I did attend, I'd have no particular preference for food type. Same here. I agree with Tobias though that a formal dinner the night before the event would be better, giving people a chance to get to know each other and then of course anyone staying Saturday night could again meet up informally to continue the chats and new friendships :-) Exactly :) The formal dinner before the event can help to make the event itself more effecitve and fruitful. I would also attend the informal dinner after the event, to chill out and say goodbye. Many thanks for organizing all this! Peter ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 dinner
As I am coming from a foreign country I definitely prefer a Scottish meal when I visit Scotland. As Tobias said, you find Chinese and Italian food everywhere. Friday evening would be ideal. If you need to select between a choice of Scottish restaurants I think it would help to have a look at the Whisky card ;-). If you need pre payments just tell us. We will happily prepay for us and our wife. Kind regards Paul Am 18.06.2014 um 17:42 schrieb Geoff Wicks gtwi...@btinternet.com: At the moment we are looking at a lot of the mechanics of QLis30. One of the things that is causes us a problem is the possibility of a QLis30 dinner. We want to do this as we believe informal contacts as just as important as the event programme. When we sounded out opinion on the date, you gave us some helpful suggestions and we would like your ideas about any dinner. Our main problem is that it is impossible to estimate numbers attending QLis30 at this stage. There has been an enthusiastic response to the web page - 168 hits so far - but that does not translate into attendance. It is more an indication of interest. The first question would be whether people would prefer a dinner on the Friday evening or as an after workshop event on the Saturday. The latter would be slightly easier to organise in that we could get final numbers (and a deposit!) on the day itself. The other question is the cuisine. At the moment we are looking at 3 options: 1: A traditional British Carvery 2: Italian 3: Chinese By large numbers the first would probably be the easiest, but we have had a good recommendation for the Chinese which is near to the show venue. However, I wonder whether UK QL-ers have had enough Chinese cuisine stuffed down their throats in Manchester!, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 dinner
-Original Message- From: p...@zx81.de p...@zx81.de Sent: Jun 18, 2014 4:49 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 dinner As I am coming from a foreign country I definitely prefer a Scottish meal when I visit Scotland. As Tobias said, you find Chinese and Italian food everywhere. Friday evening would be ideal. If you need to select between a choice of Scottish restaurants I think it would help to have a look at the Whisky card ;-). If you need pre payments just tell us. We will happily prepay for us and our wife. Kind regards Paul Am 18.06.2014 um 17:42 schrieb Geoff Wicks gtwi...@btinternet.com: At the moment we are looking at a lot of the mechanics of QLis30. One of the things that is causes us a problem is the possibility of a QLis30 dinner. We want to do this as we believe informal contacts as just as important as the event programme. When we sounded out opinion on the date, you gave us some helpful suggestions and we would like your ideas about any dinner. Our main problem is that it is impossible to estimate numbers attending QLis30 at this stage. There has been an enthusiastic response to the web page - 168 hits so far - but that does not translate into attendance. It is more an indication of interest. The first question would be whether people would prefer a dinner on the Friday evening or as an after workshop event on the Saturday. The latter would be slightly easier to organise in that we could get final numbers (and a deposit!) on the day itself. The other question is the cuisine. At the moment we are looking at 3 options: 1: A traditional British Carvery 2: Italian 3: Chinese By large numbers the first would probably be the easiest, but we have had a good recommendation for the Chinese which is near to the show venue. However, I wonder whether UK QL-ers have had enough Chinese cuisine stuffed down their throats in Manchester!, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Coming from Across the Pond, I too would like other than Italian and Chinese. And while I am evenly divided between Friday or Saturday dinner ... let's call that somewhat for Friday more than Saturday. Rather, for dinner Friday and certainly informal gathering after Saturday finish. Thanks, Doug (LaVerne) 37830 USA ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
