Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E 3.33

2018-05-17 Thread Thierry Godefroy via Ql-Users
On Thu, 17 May 2018 06:12:44 +0200, Wolf via Ql-Users wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> thanks Thierry and Marcel for pointig this out.
> 
> Re-uploaded with thr missing chunk inserted.

I am sorry, but the SMSQ/E v3.33 source file archive
(http://www.wlenerz.com/smsqe/333/smsqe333.zip)
is always the same, and it also got an issue with the QXL (it does not
allow to produce a functional QXL binary)...

I could however, after applying Marcel's patch to smsq_smsq_wman_link,
produce a configurable Q60 SMSQ/E file.

Also, the current smsqe333.zip file contains the compiled binaries in
excess of the sources (and should probably be removed).

Thierry.
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E 3.33

2018-05-16 Thread Wolf via Ql-Users

Hi,

thanks Thierry and Marcel for pointig this out.

Re-uploaded with thr missing chunk inserted.


Wolfgang

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I have tested on QDT and Dilwyn Jones LaunchPad it seems to be Good for me and 
it so Urs QLE please Give  Mr  MK Time to Fix this  Please Do not Keep on 
asking Him he works very Hard doing Lots for Us OK Good night


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On Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 19:43, Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users 
 wrote:

Thierry Godefroy via Ql-Users wrote:

I am faced with a problem in v3.33: the "WMAN system colours" config block
is gone (!) and as a result, most of PE programs (especially old ones) are
affected and only display in the ugly (and CRT screen killing) white
background/green borders/black text default.


Oh, somebody actually uses the config block, interesting ;-) Even
though I have written it I have never used it myself, I just set the
colours during boot.


Is that a bug, or (I barely even dare making such a silly supposition)
something that was done on purpose ?


Not silly, I have removed it for QDOS WMAN to get the size of the
binary down again, but it's supposed to be included in SMSQ/E. Looks
like it somehow got lost between me and Wolfgang. Wolfgang, please
check that the second input line in smsq_smsq_wman_link reads

input dev8_ee_wman_config_rel

Cheers, Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E 3.33

2018-05-16 Thread simon629--- via Ql-Users
I have tested on QDT and Dilwyn Jones LaunchPad it seems to be Good for me and 
it so Urs QLE please Give  Mr  MK Time to Fix this  Please Do not Keep on 
asking Him he works very Hard doing Lots for Us OK Good night


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 19:43, Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users 
 wrote:

Thierry Godefroy via Ql-Users wrote:
> I am faced with a problem in v3.33: the "WMAN system colours" config block
> is gone (!) and as a result, most of PE programs (especially old ones) are
> affected and only display in the ugly (and CRT screen killing) white
> background/green borders/black text default.

Oh, somebody actually uses the config block, interesting ;-) Even
though I have written it I have never used it myself, I just set the
colours during boot.

> Is that a bug, or (I barely even dare making such a silly supposition)
> something that was done on purpose ?

Not silly, I have removed it for QDOS WMAN to get the size of the
binary down again, but it's supposed to be included in SMSQ/E. Looks
like it somehow got lost between me and Wolfgang. Wolfgang, please
check that the second input line in smsq_smsq_wman_link reads

input dev8_ee_wman_config_rel

Cheers, Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E 3.33

2018-05-16 Thread Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users
Thierry Godefroy via Ql-Users wrote:
> I am faced with a problem in v3.33: the "WMAN system colours" config block
> is gone (!) and as a result, most of PE programs (especially old ones) are
> affected and only display in the ugly (and CRT screen killing) white
> background/green borders/black text default.

Oh, somebody actually uses the config block, interesting ;-) Even
though I have written it I have never used it myself, I just set the
colours during boot.

> Is that a bug, or (I barely even dare making such a silly supposition)
> something that was done on purpose ?

Not silly, I have removed it for QDOS WMAN to get the size of the
binary down again, but it's supposed to be included in SMSQ/E. Looks
like it somehow got lost between me and Wolfgang. Wolfgang, please
check that the second input line in smsq_smsq_wman_link reads

input dev8_ee_wman_config_rel

Cheers, Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E 3.33

2018-05-16 Thread Thierry Godefroy via Ql-Users
On Sat, 12 May 2018 06:48:27 +0200, Wolf via Ql-Users wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I re-upped the binaries zip file for SMSQ/E, the Aurora & QXL problems 
> should be gone now.

I am faced with a problem in v3.33: the "WMAN system colours" config block
is gone (!) and as a result, most of PE programs (especially old ones) are
affected and only display in the ugly (and CRT screen killing) white
background/green borders/black text default.

Is that a bug, or (I barely even dare making such a silly supposition)
something that was done on purpose ?

Thierry.
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E 3.33

2018-05-13 Thread Bob Spelten via Ql-Users
Op Sat, 12 May 2018 06:48:27 +0200 schreef Wolf via Ql-Users  
:



Hi all,

I re-upped the binaries zip file for SMSQ/E, the Aurora & QXL problems  
should be gone now.


I also used this occasion to correct a bug in the Q68 version due to  
which the card_create command could corrupt the directory of a card.  
This bugfix doesn't merit a whole new version, but you should upgrade.




Thanks Wolfgang.
I can now report a successful boot on all 3 mentioned platforms.

Bob

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E 3.33

2018-05-11 Thread Bob Spelten via Ql-Users
Op Fri, 11 May 2018 07:01:33 +0200 schreef Daniele Terdina via Ql-Users  
:


I decided to give a try to the Aurora version on Q-emuLator, but it  
stops when it encounters some "jsr $FE83" instructions... anybody  
knows what those are supposed to do?



My attempt to run v3.33 on the Aurora/SGC also failed.
I made sure it was configured the same as the previous 3.32 but the screen  
stayed black and nothing else happened.


Also the QXL version failed to run.
"The QXL at IO address 02B0h is not responding" is all I got.
The last working version I tried here was 3.26, with the same address.

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E 3.33

2018-05-10 Thread Daniele Terdina via Ql-Users
I decided to give a try to the Aurora version on Q-emuLator, but it stops when 
it encounters some "jsr $FE83" instructions... anybody knows what those are 
supposed to do?

Daniele

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Cc: Wolf
Subject: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E 3.33

Hi all,

SMSQ/E 3.33 is out, get it as usual from
www.wlenerz.com/smsqe

What's new in this version :

Final bugfix for LRESPR in procedures (means everybody should upgrade)
Better QL networking.
Gold card is configured not to use ABC keyboard.
Improvements in standard QL EE.
Q68 & SMSQmulator better  handling.

The sources for the stand-alone TK II are included in the SMSQ/E sources.
Moreover, whilst they aren't really part of SMSQE, the new QL-SD drivers
are built on the basis of the SMSQ/E "dv3" driver acihtecture, so their
sources are also included in the SMSQ/E sources (remember, the compiled
drivers are at wlenerz.com/qlsd).

If you have a Qx0 machine and access to an EPROM burner, this may be of
interest to you : The Qx0 may now have a compressed SMSQ/E so newer
versions thereof fit in the standard EPROMs. There is a certain process
involved in making these EPROMs - but it is clealy described in the
"smsq_q40_boot_doc" or "smsq_q40_boot_txt" files in the SMSQ/E sources.

Finally, Q68 has better handling of some slower SDHC cards. Also, and
that is an officially unofficial and undocumented feature, the Q68 may
also be able to read most older SD (not SDHC) cards. However, make sure
that this actually works with your cards before using them in earnest.
Offficially, the Q68 still only supports SDHC cards.

Have fun!
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E 3.33

2018-05-01 Thread Derek via Ql-Users
Hi Bob,

I configured the SMSQ/E with all Q68 sold with FAT enabled.

I guessed that it would useful.

But I did not create a FAT16 partition on the supplied SD Card.


RegardsDerek
 Original message From: Bob Spelten via Ql-Users 
<ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> Date: 01/05/2018  11:26  (GMT+00:00) To: ql-users 
<ql-us...@q-v-d.com> Cc: Bob Spelten <b...@upcmail.nl> Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] 
SMSQ/E 3.33 
Op Tue, 01 May 2018 12:06:00 +0200 schreef Bob Spelten <b...@upcmail.nl>:

> Op Mon, 30 Apr 2018 20:38:27 +0200 schreef Wolfgang Lenerz via Ql-Users  
> <ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com>:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just re-upped the binary file.
>>
> Thanks again Wolfgang, but...
> The FAT_xxx range of keywords still seem to be missing ...
>
Oops, my mistake.
This v333 is configured differently then the previous one that came with  
the machine, FAT_ was disabled.

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E 3.33

2018-05-01 Thread Bob Spelten via Ql-Users

Op Tue, 01 May 2018 12:06:00 +0200 schreef Bob Spelten :

Op Mon, 30 Apr 2018 20:38:27 +0200 schreef Wolfgang Lenerz via Ql-Users  
:



Hi,

I just re-upped the binary file.


Thanks again Wolfgang, but...
The FAT_xxx range of keywords still seem to be missing ...


Oops, my mistake.
This v333 is configured differently then the previous one that came with  
the machine, FAT_ was disabled.


Bob

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E 3.33

2018-05-01 Thread Bob Spelten via Ql-Users
Op Mon, 30 Apr 2018 20:38:27 +0200 schreef Wolfgang Lenerz via Ql-Users  
:



Hi,

I just re-upped the binary file.


Thanks again Wolfgang, but...
The FAT_xxx range of keywords still seem to be missing and thus produces  
an "unknown procedure" error on FAT_DRIVE in the BOOT file.


Bob

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E 3.33

2018-04-30 Thread Dave Park via Ql-Users
Maybe it's time to have an SMSQ functionality to check for and download
SMSQ updates on request, or automatically if the user permits it?

Dave

On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 1:38 PM, Wolfgang Lenerz via Ql-Users <
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> Hi,
>
> I just re-upped the binary file.
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E 3.33

2018-04-30 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz via Ql-Users

Hi,

I just re-upped the binary file.

Wolfgang
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E 3.33

2018-04-30 Thread Giorgio Garabello via Ql-Users
many thanks!


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2018-04-30 17:39 GMT+02:00 Wolf via Ql-Users :

> Hi Giorgio,
>
> From the sources
>
> ; Network I/O function-vector initialisation  V0.12018  Marcel Kilgus
> ;
> ; This is used to split the physical I/O routines, which need to be in ROM
> ; (because that has different timing from RAM), from the eneric
> driver/server
> ; code, which is too big to fit into the new TK2 ROM.
>
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
> On 30/04/2018 08:08, Giorgio Garabello via Ql-Users wrote:
>
>> Good work! Thanks so much.
>> I'm very curious, what are the improvements to the network?
>>
>> Giorgio
>>
>> Il dom 29 apr 2018, 11:41 Wolf via Ql-Users  ha
>> scritto:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> SMSQ/E 3.33 is out, get it as usual from
>>> www.wlenerz.com/smsqe
>>>
>>> What's new in this version :
>>>
>>> Final bugfix for LRESPR in procedures (means everybody should upgrade)
>>> Better QL networking.
>>> Gold card is configured not to use ABC keyboard.
>>> Improvements in standard QL EE.
>>> Q68 & SMSQmulator better  handling.
>>>
>>> The sources for the stand-alone TK II are included in the SMSQ/E sources.
>>> Moreover, whilst they aren't really part of SMSQE, the new QL-SD drivers
>>> are built on the basis of the SMSQ/E "dv3" driver acihtecture, so their
>>> sources are also included in the SMSQ/E sources (remember, the compiled
>>> drivers are at wlenerz.com/qlsd).
>>>
>>> If you have a Qx0 machine and access to an EPROM burner, this may be of
>>> interest to you : The Qx0 may now have a compressed SMSQ/E so newer
>>> versions thereof fit in the standard EPROMs. There is a certain process
>>> involved in making these EPROMs - but it is clealy described in the
>>> "smsq_q40_boot_doc" or "smsq_q40_boot_txt" files in the SMSQ/E sources.
>>>
>>> Finally, Q68 has better handling of some slower SDHC cards. Also, and
>>> that is an officially unofficial and undocumented feature, the Q68 may
>>> also be able to read most older SD (not SDHC) cards. However, make sure
>>> that this actually works with your cards before using them in earnest.
>>> Offficially, the Q68 still only supports SDHC cards.
>>>
>>> Have fun!
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E 3.33

2018-04-30 Thread Peter Graf via Ql-Users
Hi,

> But there are some confusing aspects about the Q68 files.
> Both count 350.000 bytes, one .SYS and one .WIN.
> When Viewed they look the same. Should the .WIN not be a valid QLWA file  
> containing the .sys?

Both are wrong and can not be used by the Q68 Loader without changes.

There should only be the .WIN Container and it should be 1 MB in size.
(The .SYS File should be *inside* that container.)

Peter
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E 3.33

2018-04-30 Thread Derek via Ql-Users
Hi Bob,
The Q68 system files Q68_SMSQ.WIN or Q68_SMSQ.SYS have to be located on FAT32 
partition.
The FAT device is used to access a FAT16 partition. Used to interchange data 
from Q68 and other PC or MAC computers.
Any updated Q68_SMS.WIN file must be located in the first 16 entries in the 
FAT32 file system.
You can see the file entries by using the CARD_DIR$ function.
To see the FAT32 entries on Card 1 use:
PRINT CARD_DIR$(1)
The safest way to update SMSQ/E on a Q68 is to copy the Q68_SMSQ.WIN file to a 
separate SD Card and insert this into Q68 SD Card Slot 2.
Power on Q68, with working SD Card. The current SMSQ/E WIN file is defined at 
WIN8_ by default.
You have to initialise Sd Card 2 and mount the new updates WIN file that can be 
done by:
CARD_INIT 2WIN_DRIVE 7,2,"Q68_SMSQ.WIN"WCOPY WIN7_ , WIN8_
If you only want the Q68_SMSQ.SYS file to start the Q68. Then the updated file 
has to be placed on the SD Card with Windows/Linux/Mac.
Please refer to the SMSQ/E manual with regards fragmentation of the SD Card 
FAT32 file system.
RegardsDerek
 Original message From: Bob Spelten via Ql-Users 
<ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> Date: 30/04/2018  15:10  (GMT+00:00) To: 
ql-us...@q-v-d.com Cc: Bob Spelten <b...@upcmail.nl> Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] 
SMSQ/E 3.33 
Op Sun, 29 Apr 2018 11:40:57 +0200 schreef Wolf via Ql-Users  
<ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com>:

> Hi all,
>
> SMSQ/E 3.33 is out, get it as usual from
> www.wlenerz.com/smsqe
>
Thanks Wolfgang for the update.
But there are some confusing aspects about the Q68 files.
Both count 350.000 bytes, one .SYS and one .WIN.
When Viewed they look the same. Should the .WIN not be a valid QLWA file  
containing the .sys?

I've copied the .sys to the existing Q68_SMSQ.WIN on my SD using QPC2,  
replacing the previous SMSQ. The existing BOOT was used to start the Q68.
The boot file now gave an error on FAT_DRIVE 'unknown procedure'.
Looking at the list of commands with HyperHelp showed no FAT_ keywords  
were found.

Bob

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E 3.33

2018-04-30 Thread Wolf via Ql-Users

Hi Giorgio,

From the sources

; Network I/O function-vector initialisation  V0.1   2018  Marcel Kilgus
;
; This is used to split the physical I/O routines, which need to be in ROM
; (because that has different timing from RAM), from the eneric 
driver/server

; code, which is too big to fit into the new TK2 ROM.


Wolfgang

On 30/04/2018 08:08, Giorgio Garabello via Ql-Users wrote:

Good work! Thanks so much.
I'm very curious, what are the improvements to the network?

Giorgio

Il dom 29 apr 2018, 11:41 Wolf via Ql-Users  ha
scritto:


Hi all,

SMSQ/E 3.33 is out, get it as usual from
www.wlenerz.com/smsqe

What's new in this version :

Final bugfix for LRESPR in procedures (means everybody should upgrade)
Better QL networking.
Gold card is configured not to use ABC keyboard.
Improvements in standard QL EE.
Q68 & SMSQmulator better  handling.

The sources for the stand-alone TK II are included in the SMSQ/E sources.
Moreover, whilst they aren't really part of SMSQE, the new QL-SD drivers
are built on the basis of the SMSQ/E "dv3" driver acihtecture, so their
sources are also included in the SMSQ/E sources (remember, the compiled
drivers are at wlenerz.com/qlsd).

If you have a Qx0 machine and access to an EPROM burner, this may be of
interest to you : The Qx0 may now have a compressed SMSQ/E so newer
versions thereof fit in the standard EPROMs. There is a certain process
involved in making these EPROMs - but it is clealy described in the
"smsq_q40_boot_doc" or "smsq_q40_boot_txt" files in the SMSQ/E sources.

Finally, Q68 has better handling of some slower SDHC cards. Also, and
that is an officially unofficial and undocumented feature, the Q68 may
also be able to read most older SD (not SDHC) cards. However, make sure
that this actually works with your cards before using them in earnest.
Offficially, the Q68 still only supports SDHC cards.

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E 3.33

2018-04-30 Thread Bob Spelten via Ql-Users
Op Sun, 29 Apr 2018 11:40:57 +0200 schreef Wolf via Ql-Users  
:



Hi all,

SMSQ/E 3.33 is out, get it as usual from
www.wlenerz.com/smsqe


Thanks Wolfgang for the update.
But there are some confusing aspects about the Q68 files.
Both count 350.000 bytes, one .SYS and one .WIN.
When Viewed they look the same. Should the .WIN not be a valid QLWA file  
containing the .sys?


I've copied the .sys to the existing Q68_SMSQ.WIN on my SD using QPC2,  
replacing the previous SMSQ. The existing BOOT was used to start the Q68.

The boot file now gave an error on FAT_DRIVE 'unknown procedure'.
Looking at the list of commands with HyperHelp showed no FAT_ keywords  
were found.


Bob

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E 3.33

2018-04-30 Thread Giorgio Garabello via Ql-Users
Good work! Thanks so much.
I'm very curious, what are the improvements to the network?

Giorgio

Il dom 29 apr 2018, 11:41 Wolf via Ql-Users  ha
scritto:

> Hi all,
>
> SMSQ/E 3.33 is out, get it as usual from
> www.wlenerz.com/smsqe
>
> What's new in this version :
>
> Final bugfix for LRESPR in procedures (means everybody should upgrade)
> Better QL networking.
> Gold card is configured not to use ABC keyboard.
> Improvements in standard QL EE.
> Q68 & SMSQmulator better  handling.
>
> The sources for the stand-alone TK II are included in the SMSQ/E sources.
> Moreover, whilst they aren't really part of SMSQE, the new QL-SD drivers
> are built on the basis of the SMSQ/E "dv3" driver acihtecture, so their
> sources are also included in the SMSQ/E sources (remember, the compiled
> drivers are at wlenerz.com/qlsd).
>
> If you have a Qx0 machine and access to an EPROM burner, this may be of
> interest to you : The Qx0 may now have a compressed SMSQ/E so newer
> versions thereof fit in the standard EPROMs. There is a certain process
> involved in making these EPROMs - but it is clealy described in the
> "smsq_q40_boot_doc" or "smsq_q40_boot_txt" files in the SMSQ/E sources.
>
> Finally, Q68 has better handling of some slower SDHC cards. Also, and
> that is an officially unofficial and undocumented feature, the Q68 may
> also be able to read most older SD (not SDHC) cards. However, make sure
> that this actually works with your cards before using them in earnest.
> Offficially, the Q68 still only supports SDHC cards.
>
> Have fun!
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E 3.33

2018-04-29 Thread Peter Graf via Ql-Users
Hi Wolfgang,

fantastic work, many thanks!

Now all QL hardware platforms QL, GC, SGC, Q40, Q60 and Q68 share the
same, stable filesystem on SDHC cards. And they can exchange it with
emulators on the same medium.

This was my original hope and vision, when I first started with SD cards
on the SGC parallel port and Qx0, first based on mtools, later adapting
the Steinkopf drivers, later the QL-SD interface with Qubide format,
which then again was used for the first steps on the Q68, leading to
QLWA support for all hardware in the end.

I could only pioneer FAT32 and the basics of such drivers, and I'm glad
that I did. But Wolfgang made everything so much more complete and well
integrated. The QL world owes him a big thanks!

All the best
Peter



Am 29.04.2018 um 11:40 schrieb Wolf via Ql-Users:
> Hi all,
> 
> SMSQ/E 3.33 is out, get it as usual from
> www.wlenerz.com/smsqe
> 
> What's new in this version :
> 
> Final bugfix for LRESPR in procedures (means everybody should upgrade)
> Better QL networking.
> Gold card is configured not to use ABC keyboard.
> Improvements in standard QL EE.
> Q68 & SMSQmulator better  handling.
> 
> The sources for the stand-alone TK II are included in the SMSQ/E sources.
> Moreover, whilst they aren't really part of SMSQE, the new QL-SD drivers 
> are built on the basis of the SMSQ/E "dv3" driver acihtecture, so their 
> sources are also included in the SMSQ/E sources (remember, the compiled 
> drivers are at wlenerz.com/qlsd).
> 
> If you have a Qx0 machine and access to an EPROM burner, this may be of 
> interest to you : The Qx0 may now have a compressed SMSQ/E so newer 
> versions thereof fit in the standard EPROMs. There is a certain process 
> involved in making these EPROMs - but it is clealy described in the 
> "smsq_q40_boot_doc" or "smsq_q40_boot_txt" files in the SMSQ/E sources.
> 
> Finally, Q68 has better handling of some slower SDHC cards. Also, and 
> that is an officially unofficial and undocumented feature, the Q68 may 
> also be able to read most older SD (not SDHC) cards. However, make sure 
> that this actually works with your cards before using them in earnest. 
> Offficially, the Q68 still only supports SDHC cards.
> 
> Have fun!
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