Russ Allbery writes:
I can readily believe that Dan's build construction tools are quite
sophisticated for the problems that he's trying to solve. I'm a little
more skeptical that they're going to make software packages that are
essentially the distilled portability hacks of *hundreds*
Gavin Cameron writes:
Hi all,
We've deciced that our company is going to archive copies of all E-mail's
as they enter and leave our network.
Privacy issues aside, what is the proper Qmail way of achieving this end?
Quoting FAQ 8.2:
8.2. How do I keep a copy of all incoming and
Russell Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The problem is that the portability hacks have the wrong attitude. They
say "how do we get program foo to work with os bar's c library"? Dan
says "os bar's c library is a piece of shit anyway. Why bother figuring
out all the many and myriad ways
Scott D Yelich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I just read the bind book after 12 years of Internet work (ya, predating
real widespread bind use... remember ftping to xerox parc?). I did
learn two things, so that was worthwhile. Of course, I borrowed the
book, so it has been returned. Why can't
On Fri, Jul 02, 1999 at 12:08:20AM -0600, Scott D. Yelich wrote:
First of all I'd like to apologize to the entire list for posting this. I
had told myself I wasn't going to post any more on this thread, but it's just
too funny to keep away from.
This, however, WILL be my last post, and as for
On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Adam D. McKenna wrote:
the RFC, it will just state something like "MX records can't point to
CNAMES" -- and never really state why this is so.
You were given the answer to this two days ago and didn't bother to read
it. Russ just answered you again, let's see if you
On Thu, Jul 01, 1999 at 06:52:54PM -0600, Jeff Lush wrote:
I can think of 2 possibilities:
1. (server side): The timestamp on the message files is in the future, and
so qmail-pop3d does not "see" them. To fix, simply touch the files.
# touch ~username/Maildir/new/*
2. (client side): The
Hi,
I have a small question about the databytes control file:
does a mail first get stored on local disk before the size is checked?
Becuase if so, a client can send mails of 10 GB... they won't go through,
but they would block the server completely...
Franky
Van Liedekerke Franky wrote:
Hi,
I have a small question about the databytes control file:
does a mail first get stored on local disk before the size is checked?
Becuase if so, a client can send mails of 10 GB... they won't go through,
but they would block the server completely...
On 1999-07-02 at 11:09:56, Van Liedekerke Franky wrote:
I have a small question about the databytes control file:
does a mail first get stored on local disk before the size is checked?
No, qmail-smtpd checks it continously while passing the message data to
qmail-queue. As soon as it founds
Janos Farkas wrote:
On 1999-07-02 at 11:09:56, Van Liedekerke Franky wrote:
I have a small question about the databytes control file:
does a mail first get stored on local disk before the size is checked?
No, qmail-smtpd checks it continously while passing the message data to
qmail Digest 2 Jul 1999 10:00:01 - Issue 689
Topics (messages 27367 through 27464):
Howto
27367 by: Dave Sill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
27370 by: "Alex Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
27375 by: Dave Sill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
27380 by: "Alex Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 2 Jul 1999 08:11:03 -0400 (EDT), Russell Nelson wrote:
Sorry, Russ, but autoconf is a lose (compared to Dan's methods --
obviously it's much better than the old "edit the Makefile; edit
config.h; make; iterate" way). It's just wrong, all the way.
Something can solve a problem but still
On Fri, Jul 02, 1999 at 03:09:24PM +0100, Chris Green wrote:
You're looking for cyclog, which is part of the daemontools package. Find
it at:
ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/pub/software/daemontools-0.53.tar.gz
There was discussion a while ago about a faster syslogd replacement
(part of the qmail
It's great.
That being said vigorously sincerely, there are a few improvements.
2.8.1 discusses /var/qmail/rc
The memphis RPM which, so far, was the only way I could get QMail to
function differs from conventional setups in that there is no /var/qmail/rc
file.
It would be nice if something
I have installed the line
from FAQ 5.1
in the ined.conf
tcpserver -u 501 -g 500 0 smtp /car/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd
The FAQ never said to put the above line in inetd.conf. It says put
the above line in your sys startup files. tcpserver is used *instead
of* inetd.
The FAQ cannot really be
No magic maybe, but perhaps a different syntax in the inetd that Redhat
uses.
No, syntax for Rh inetd is the same as in the INSTALL:
16. Set up qmail-smtpd in /etc/inetd.conf (all on one line):
smtp stream tcp nowait qmaild /var/qmail/bin/tcp-env
tcp-env
I believe the point was that you read your car manual to see where the power
connects are for the stereo your also reading a manual for to install. Or, in
other words, read your linux manual to learn how to use your inetd correctly
while you read the qmail manual as you install
Being a newbi as alex in qmail an other things. You guys have to understand
that alot of the manuals are made for linux users and not newbies. The text
as well as explination of alot of the commands do not make any sense at all
to someone that is new. If the manuals were also out with text that
On Fri, Jul 02, 1999 at 07:50:32AM -0700, Durham, Kenneth J wrote:
Being a newbi as alex in qmail an other things. You guys have to understand
that alot of the manuals are made for linux users and not newbies. The text
as well as explination of alot of the commands do not make any sense at
On Fri, Jul 02, 1999 at 10:55:33AM -0400, Dave Kitabjian wrote:
This is probably very simple, but indulge me.
man for qmail-smtpd says:
rcpthosts may include wildcards:
heaven.af.mil
.heaven.af.mil
So is the "." the wildcard? My current
Finally, I installed the Memphis RPM, I noticed immediate differences.
1) First, there is no rc file in /var/qmail.
The README in my ftp directory explains the differences between the
tarball and the rpm's setup.
2) There were additional daemons running, particularly the tcp
On Fri, Jul 02, 1999 at 07:50:32AM -0700, Durham, Kenneth J wrote:
} Being a newbi as alex in qmail an other things. You guys have to understand
} that alot of the manuals are made for linux users and not newbies. The text
} as well as explination of alot of the commands do not make any sense at
Diego Puertas writes:
Sam wrote:
Diego Puertas writes:
When I put wrong email adresses (i.e.: "|/sbin/mkmess [EMAIL PROTECTED]" , or
"//@%^*|" ) in the mail from command of a qmail server, the server does
not protest, as sendmail does. Postfix does the same as qmail.
What
Actually,
Things I find objectionable:
RTFM, particularly, when the issue is misunderstanding what was read, or not
having the right prior knowledge, instead of when the user didn't actually
read the manual. In India, confessions are prohibited in the courts because
it is recognized that their
Alex,
As you quoted "Don't think that the behavior on this list isn't
completely public, and potentially newsworthy." This is a very public
mailing list and from what i remember freedom of speach is still in affect.
One of the greatist things in america is that if someone does not like
something
If you want build root support, I've got a patch to the
qmail-1.03 distribution that adds that in.
Well, does not something like
DESTDIR=/okidoki
make
make man
mkdir -p $DESTDIR/var/qmail
chmod 755 $DESTDIR/var/qmail
echo $DESTDIR/var/qmail conf-qmail
make install
make
We just set up a RedHat 6.0 server to be used as a mail server in our
deparment at school. Is Qmail MAPI 2.0 compliant? I am not really sure
what his even is, but one of the professers is hesitant to let us dump
Groupwise and switch to qmail if it isn't. Also, is there an easy way
to go from
May sombody point me where I should send msg to unsubscribe
from this list. I'm taking vacation and may mailbox will be very fast
full.
See:
http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#mailing-lists
-Dave
Ritchie Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We just set up a RedHat 6.0 server to be used as a mail server in our
deparment at school. Is Qmail MAPI 2.0 compliant? I am not really sure
what his even is, but one of the professers is hesitant to let us dump
Groupwise and switch to qmail if it isn't.
General Motors doesn't have a help line for people who don't know how
to drive. Imagine if they did...
You mean a help line like their web page?
http://www.gm.com/vehicles/us/owners/partners_safety/e830.html
Wouldn't the person on the help line be just a bit negligent if they failed
to ask.
The way to unsubscribe from an ezmlm list is based on it's name.
This name of this list is [EMAIL PROTECTED] (via the People's Republic of
Tonga)
So to unsubscribe send a blank email to this address:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] from your subscribing email address.
For more about ezmlm check out
Hello,
I'm using serialmail-70 over a ppp link for outgoing mail on a linux
box. From the ip-up scripts it runs perfectly. However, if the conection
stays up, I call serialmail from a crontab on the hour.
I have the path to tcpclient set as a system wide path, and call
serialmail from the
My "experience" with this list has been overall farely pleasant - despite
my stupid newbie questions. People like Dave Sill have been very patient.
BUT, because I'm a newbie, sometimes even when I "RTFM" things don't
always click. I agree with Adam McKenna, if you ask nicely, you'll probably
get
"Alex Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let me ask you this. If you got into an airplane, a Cessna 150, and I handed
you a key, could you start it? Is the key what starts it? Should you turn it
like a car key? Is there a difference between turning it left or right?
Would you be an idiot if I
Eric Dahnke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm using serialmail-70 over a ppp link for outgoing mail on a linux
box. From the ip-up scripts it runs perfectly. However, if the conection
stays up, I call serialmail from a crontab on the hour.
Smells like an environment difference.
I have the path to
On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Scott D. Yelich wrote:
Ok, so we've beaten the dead horse with the fact that MX records can't
be CNAMES... so why does bind allow this? Go figure.
for years bind allowed '_' in domain names. at one version they 'fixed'
this and thousands of zone files around the world had
Title: qmail-unsubscribe
qmail-unsubscribe
On Thu, Jul 01, 1999 at 09:01:35PM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
Chris, when you get that filter written would you mind sharing a copy?
Unless I get a few minutes to do it myself, then I'll share.
Scott, can you say **plonk** ?
Maybe the freds could extend ezmlm with an rfish option?
On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, McGinnis, Tom wrote:
I've tried and tried, but can't seem to figure out why "GFY" is so
offensive. Obviously I haven't figured out the real meaning. "Good for
you" is all I can come up with.
When I first saw it, I too thought it was "Good For You" but based on
On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Richard Letts wrote:
for years bind allowed '_' in domain names. at one version they 'fixed'
this and thousands of zone files around the world had to be fixed. Who is
to say at some point in the future the server won't implement the
checking.
I guess bind doesn't check
Wouldn't the person on the help line be just a bit negligent if they
failed
to ask. Do you have a learner's permit and are you seated next to a
licensed
driver over 18?
No, I'm sorry, I really don't think it's GM's responsibility to make sure
that everyone using their product is legally
| This host has more than one interface? If that's the case, you shouldn't even
| need any tcprules file, assuming that you want to allow anyone on your internal
| network to relay. If you're listening to port 25 only on the internal
| interface, then you can remove the rcpthosts file without
Chris Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
| If tcpserver is bound only to the internal interface of a bastion host, then
| there's no danger of being used as a relay from the outside world.
...until one day someone accidently changes something, or misunderstands
or misapplies that advice.
Given
Adam D . McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How are you starting tcpserver?
Did you remember to compile your /etc/tcp.smtp into /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb
using
tcprules?
It did everything as described in FAQ #5.4, including compiling the rules
in /etc/tcp.smtp into /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb using tcprules.
Care to add to the list? I'm going to make a website on things you should
know, skills you should have, before attempting to install qmail. I'll
devote a special section called
Why not just point people to lwq (which, no offense intended, is probably
infinitely better than a resource from
On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Alex Miller wrote:
Threats of law suits
should I elaborate?
rcpthosts... need I say more?
... anyway, wait until you get some idiot who wants to sue you because
you are no longer an open relay.
Scott
Ok, as a flying newbie I can understand what you are trying to say.
As someone more experienced let me just explain that in reality,
flying a plane is very different than driving a car. The physical
skills are similar but the standards of access are quite different.
It's understandable that as
Alex assumed that the acronym stood for some sort of insult or profanity.
Why? If you'll read the paragraph that I was replying to, you
can tell that
it was blatant flamebait. Alex proved this with his reaction.
Actually Adam,
I proposed making a web site
In your negative response
It's understandable that as a flying newbie, you would think that
handed a set of keys, it would be "up to you" to know how to use
the plane.
I would? I know that planes are fairly complicated and dangerous pieces of
machinery and that a pilot's license is required to fly legally in most
On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Alex Miller wrote:
In your negative response you wrote GFY.
That was your PUBLIC response here on this list.
Your PRIVATE email to me regarding making the
web site was hardly "Good For You" and you know it.
There are two kinds of people. Honest people and dishonest
On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Racer X wrote:
Installing QMail is much closer to attempting to learn to fly. The
Installing qmail is nowhere near as dangerous as learning to fly. Flying
requires not only knowledge of theory but a large amount of practical
skill, and a lack of skill has serious
Very Easy... depending on your level of skill.
If you follow the directions in the tarball exactly (read EVERYTHING first,
especially the FAQ) you can do it first try.
I run the same system for an ISP mail server and it works, FLAWLESSLY.
Outlook Express on Win98 are no problem.
You should
cyclog. Part of Dan's daemontools package.
ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/daemontools.html
At 10:09 AM 7/2/99 , you wrote:
There was discussion a while ago about a faster syslogd replacement
(part of the qmail distribution or something separate?), could someone
point me at some informaiton
isn't that incorrect...
I'm not prattling on endlessly about my ignorance.
I mean, if you think trying to clarify things means that I'm ignoreant,
so be it, but that's not what you said.
Can we please drop this?
Thanks
jason
"Johan Van Gompel" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
| I mean the latter. When I add e.g. 'hotmail.com' to rcpthosts, everyone
| inside the LAN is able to send messages to that host. If I don't, they get
| that darn 'not found in rcpthosts' message.
Let's try a simple test. Our goal is to verify that
Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 2 July 1999 at 21:05:09 -0400
On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Kevin King wrote:
My "experience" with this list has been overall farely pleasant - despite
my stupid newbie questions. People like Dave Sill have been very patient.
BUT, because I'm a newbie,
Here's a dumb one. Can anyone tell me why this is happening?
adam@spotted:~$ cat ~alias/.qmail-root
adam-root
adam@spotted:~$ cat ~adam/.qmail-root
./Mail/root/
I tried changing ~alias/.qmail-root to be adam-rt instead of adam-root but
the same thing happens.
- Forwarded message from
OK, I figured it out (sort of).
~alias/.qmail-postmaster was forwarding to root..
When I changed it to adam-postmaster, mail to root started working again.
Anyone have an idea why this happened?
--Adam
On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 12:27:00AM -0400, Adam D . McKenna wrote:
Here's a dumb one. Can
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