Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-05 Thread Frank Tegtmeyer
If something has been discussed before on the list why can't we discuss it again? Because it wastes peoples time. Look at the archives if you are interested. Frank

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-05 Thread Fredrik Steen
On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 09:14:51AM +0100, Frank Tegtmeyer wrote: | If something has been discussed before on the list why can't | we discuss it again? | | Because it wastes peoples time. Look at the archives if you are | interested. | | Frank | What if you want to take part of the

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-05 Thread Balazs Nagy
Sorry for the late reply. It's my fault. On Fri, Mar 02 2001, Todd A. Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Balazs Nagy wrote: - /var/qmail/man/: man pages should be eliminated in favor to html pages, but it would be great if there would have a correct html2man

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-05 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
Fredrik Steen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 09:14:51AM +0100, Frank Tegtmeyer wrote: | If something has been discussed before on the list why can't | we discuss it again? | | Because it wastes peoples time. Look at the archives if you are | interested. | | Frank

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-04 Thread Scott Gifford
Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chris Garrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Much of the common patches that are around fail in one of the tests above, at least when using the author's stringent tests. There's nothing wrong with this; he keeps qmail secure, reliable,

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-04 Thread Scott Gifford
Peter van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LDAP is not part of an MTA. It's an extension. LDAP may not be part of an MTA (although it certainly can be, if it contains aliases), but it's a quite reasonable part of an MDA, which qmail also includes in qmail-local. It's certainly as reasonable a

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-04 Thread Fredrik Steen
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 11:00:19PM +0100, Peter van Dijk wrote: | On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 12:20:37PM -0800, Ian Lance Taylor wrote: | "Edward J. Allen III" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | There is nothing wrong with incorporating common patches into the | distribution. This is how open

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-03 Thread Mark Delany
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 10:14:20PM -0600, Charles Cazabon wrote: Mark Delany [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But why does qmail have to be patched to use LDAP? Why not use a script which extracts user information from the LDAP database, puts it in passwd format, and feeds it to

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-03 Thread Balazs Nagy
On Fri, Mar 02 2001, Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: impressed with the modularity of qmail. The only patches I see as necessary anywhere are big-concurrency and big-todo. Everything else is just sugar. Yes. In the past I wrote patches to qmail but these are just salted the

New qmail version request

2001-03-02 Thread Balazs Nagy
In my humble opinion Qmail is riped to a new version. Here're my suggestions. These tips aren't enough for a 2.0 version but for a 1.04 or 1.1. - djblib changes new library functions - daemontools service configurator like in djbdns - patches big-dns patch - new features per-user

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-02 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 01:44:16PM +0100, Balazs Nagy wrote: [snip] - new features per-user handling of /var/qmail/users/ using ~/.qmail/... instead of .qmail-... (or it should check each) This is configurable. man qmail-users qmail-remote QMTP and QMQP handling (smtproutes,

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-02 Thread Balazs Nagy
On Fri, Mar 02 2001, Peter van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 01:44:16PM +0100, Balazs Nagy wrote: [snip] - new features per-user handling of /var/qmail/users/ using ~/.qmail/... instead of .qmail-... (or it should check each) This is configurable. man

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-02 Thread Paco Gracia
I'd like to see a configure option to support smtp with authentication in the official qmail release. - Original Message - From: "Balazs Nagy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Subject: Re: New qmail version request

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-02 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 04:15:37PM +0100, Paco Gracia wrote: I'd like to see a configure option to support smtp with authentication in the official qmail release. Please stop this thread. A new qmail version is not likely to happen, and if it does, it'll probably contain very few patches that

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-02 Thread Dion_Vansevenant
Dijk To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] peter@datalocc: ss.nl Subject: Re: New qmail version request

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-02 Thread Paco Gracia
I agree... qmail won't have new versions??? It's a great program but it's far from being complete... imho - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 6:35 PM Subject: Re: New qmail version request Please forgive my naivete as I am

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-02 Thread Davi
. Dion Vansevenant Internetwork Administrator MRO.com Peter van Dijk To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] peter@datalocc: ss.nl Subject: Re: New qmail version request

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-02 Thread Dave Sill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please forgive my naivete as I am new to qmail and this list, but hearing a statement such as yours, Peter, gives me pause to consider: If there may not be future development, am I betting on a dead (or dying) horse? Dan's got plans for qmail, he just hasn't released

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-02 Thread Edward J. Allen III
Peter, Of course you can do all of these things. It isn't that difficult either. But it would be nice if I didn't have to patch the program to install a filter. I know how to patch the program. I know C, and can figure out how the patch works, etc. I am a new qmail administrator and had it

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-02 Thread Charles Cazabon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please forgive my naivete as I am new to qmail and this list, but hearing a statement such as yours, Peter, gives me pause to consider: If there may not be future development, am I betting on a dead (or dying) horse? No, it's not dead or dying.

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-02 Thread Ian Lance Taylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please forgive my naivete as I am new to qmail and this list, but hearing a statement such as yours, Peter, gives me pause to consider: If there may not be future development, am I betting on a dead (or dying) horse? What is wrong with some of the requests that

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-02 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please forgive my naivete as I am new to qmail and this list, but hearing a statement such as yours, Peter, gives me pause to consider: If there may not be future development, am I betting on a dead (or dying) horse? This is a complicated and rather politicized set

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-02 Thread Manvendra Bhangui
: Re: New qmail version request Please forgive my naivete as I am new to qmail and this list, but hearing a statement such as yours, Peter, gives me pause to consider: If there may not be future development, am I betting on a dead (or dying) horse? What is wrong with some of the requests

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-02 Thread Ian Lance Taylor
"Edward J. Allen III" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is nothing wrong with incorporating common patches into the distribution. This is how open source development works. qmail is not open source. It does not obey condition 3 of the Open Source Definition:

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-02 Thread Dave Sill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But there's a lot of time that I stopped using the pure qmail-1.03 with LWQ instructions. And I bet a lot of are in the same situation. What patch(es) did you find necessary? Isn't it a lot of work? And I need to install gcc friends in most machines just to install

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-02 Thread Chris Garrigues
From: Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 13:25:21 -0600 Much of the common patches that are around fail in one of the tests above, at least when using the author's stringent tests. There's nothing wrong with this; he keeps qmail secure, reliable, efficient, and

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-02 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 12:20:37PM -0800, Ian Lance Taylor wrote: "Edward J. Allen III" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is nothing wrong with incorporating common patches into the distribution. This is how open source development works. qmail is not open source. It does not obey

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-02 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 02:39:28PM -0600, Chris Garrigues wrote: From: Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 13:25:21 -0600 Much of the common patches that are around fail in one of the tests above, at least when using the author's stringent tests. There's nothing

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-02 Thread Mark Lane
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Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-02 Thread Charles Cazabon
Chris Garrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Much of the common patches that are around fail in one of the tests above, at least when using the author's stringent tests. There's nothing wrong with this; he keeps qmail secure, reliable, efficient, and "correct", and anyone who wants to

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-02 Thread Todd A. Jacobs
On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Balazs Nagy wrote: - /var/qmail/man/: man pages should be eliminated in favor to html pages, but it would be great if there would have a correct html2man generator (it must not to be the part of the package) Um, man is a standard. Man is searchable. Man

Re: New qmail version request

2001-03-02 Thread Mark Delany
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 05:17:01PM -0600, Charles Cazabon wrote: Chris Garrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Much of the common patches that are around fail in one of the tests above, at least when using the author's stringent tests. There's nothing wrong with this; he keeps qmail