Re: QMTP suggestion

1999-04-07 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 07:40:59PM -0400, Peter C. Norton wrote: On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 06:31:03PM -0500, Chris Garrigues wrote: netstat -a |fgrep '*:qmtp' or the low-level C equivalent. I'm not concerned with this. I'm concerned with Fred's proposal relying on the status of

Re: QMTP suggestion

1999-04-07 Thread Chris Johnson
On Wed, Apr 07, 1999 at 08:53:29AM -0500, Fred Lindberg wrote: Since SMTP and QMTP are linked anyway, the advertizing of QMTP by the SMTP server could easily be linked to QMTP being up. Thus, a working smtpd with a failed qmtpd (admin forgot to start?) would not advertize QMTP. This would

Re: QMTP suggestion

1999-04-07 Thread Richard Letts
On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Peter C. Norton wrote: On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 06:31:03PM -0500, Chris Garrigues wrote: netstat -a |fgrep '*:qmtp' or the low-level C equivalent. I'm not concerned with this. I'm concerned with Fred's proposal relying on the status of the remote smtp and

Re: QMTP suggestion

1999-04-07 Thread Chris Garrigues
From: Richard Letts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:06:04 +0100 (BST) On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Peter C. Norton wrote: On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 06:31:03PM -0500, Chris Garrigues wrote: netstat -a |fgrep '*:qmtp' or the low-level C equivalent. I'm not concerned

Re: QMTP suggestion

1999-04-07 Thread Fred Lindberg
On Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:37:48 -0400, Chris Johnson wrote: Why not just implement QMTP in qmail-smtpd? qmail-smtpd would advertise QMTP in its banner, and then the host connecting would be free to start firing away in QMTP lingo. There would never be any question of QMTP being up, since qmail-smtpd

Re: QMTP suggestion

1999-04-07 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Wed, Apr 07, 1999 at 10:37:48AM -0400, Chris Johnson wrote: On Wed, Apr 07, 1999 at 08:53:29AM -0500, Fred Lindberg wrote: Since SMTP and QMTP are linked anyway, the advertizing of QMTP by the SMTP server could easily be linked to QMTP being up. Thus, a working smtpd with a failed qmtpd

Re: QMTP suggestion

1999-04-07 Thread Peter C. Norton
On Wed, Apr 07, 1999 at 09:42:18AM +0200, Peter van Dijk wrote: Well extend it a bit to ignore qmtp in smtp banners for like one hour if qmtp turns out to be _not_ available. No big deal. Right. I just wanted to throw that into the proposal. An hour is probably a good long time. -Peter

QMTP suggestion

1999-04-06 Thread Fred Lindberg
Instead of MX magic, would it be possible to use a local cache to keep track of QMTP-capable hosts? QMTP is most useful for hosts that we talk to often and [with multi-recipient protocols] with smarthosts, etc. Thus, it should be possible to use SMTP by default, recognize from the banner that

Re: QMTP suggestion

1999-04-06 Thread Peter C. Norton
On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 05:57:37PM -0500, Fred Lindberg wrote: When sending, one would look up host names in the cdb, and if QMTP-capable start a QMTP dialog. If it fails, the db can be updated with that info (it doesn't matter if it takes a while to make it to the cdb since this should be

Re: QMTP suggestion

1999-04-06 Thread Chris Garrigues
From: "Peter C. Norton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:26:46 -0400 The outbound smtp agent would have to be aware somehow of the activities of its fellow outbound qmtp server. If the smtp listener on a remote site is advertising qmtp, and its qmtp server is not responding