Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-03-03 Thread Rogerio Brito
On Mar 02 2000, Greg Owen wrote: > The only problem I see with this is that using all three icons > means increased colors per shirt, which usually costs more. The problem I see with some suggestions is that the shirt will end up looking like a newspaper... :-) []s

RE: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-03-02 Thread Greg Owen
All right, I'm going to throw yet another suggestion into the hat - one for the mother of all T-Shirts. Front: Qmail "Q" logo with the "Secure, Reliable, Efficient. Pick Three" quote under it in small lettering. Back: The same as the back from "Qmail 0 (dolphin)" shirt

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-03-02 Thread Kai MacTane
At 3/2/2000 09:54 AM -0700, Vern Hart wrote or quoted: >The latest round of designs are at http://vern.com/tshirts/qmail/ >[snip] >Let me know the latest round of critiques. I like the new scaling on the sendmail and qmail logos. It's now much easier to tell what the shirt is really endorsing.

RE: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-03-02 Thread Bennett
I have to say that I agree with chat, Dolphin 0 is the best :) On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Chad Day wrote: > I don't care much for the Q-arrow logo, the dolphin is far far cooler.. so > my pick goes for dolphin 0 .. I like the font on the Secure, reliable, > efficient quote, but I think the anti-send

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-03-02 Thread John Gonzalez/netMDC admin
On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Vern Hart wrote: >The latest round of designs are at http://vern.com/tshirts/qmail/ > >They are the above quote, plus the anti-sendmail quote. Both with >each logo version. > >Let me know the latest round of critiques. Vern, those look great. I'll take one of each with the '

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-03-02 Thread Peter Green
On Thu, Mar 02, 2000 at 09:54:07AM -0700, Vern Hart wrote: > > The latest round of designs are at http://vern.com/tshirts/qmail/ > > They are the above quote, plus the anti-sendmail quote. Both with > each logo version. > > Let me know the latest round of critiques. My only beef would be with

RE: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-03-02 Thread Chad Day
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 11:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Encryption and t-shirts On Tuesday, Michael Handler wrote: > > Back: > >("qmail" stylized text) > (dolphin logo) > Secure, reliable, efficie

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-03-02 Thread Vern Hart
On Tuesday, Michael Handler wrote: > > Back: > >("qmail" stylized text) > (dolphin logo) > Secure, reliable, efficient. > Pick three. > (white space) > www.qmail.org The latest round of designs are at http://v

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-29 Thread Rogerio Brito
On Feb 29 2000, Adrian Urquhart wrote: > Don't queue with sendmail > > Send with qmail I think that I like the other one better, for the pun is much more apparent... []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito

RE: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-29 Thread Russell Nelson
Vern Hart writes: > I don't think I own a tshirt that doesn't have a logo on the front. > Oh, you probably mean the most prominent logo is the sendmail one... > Well, we could switch them and/or put all the words on the back with > a small qmail logo on the front... No. Put the question on t

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-29 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Adrian Urquhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Tue, 29 Feb 2000: > I like the designs, and have a small suggestion for the slogan(s) which > is to dump the "mail" in each, so that they become: > > Don't queue with sendmail > > Send with qmail I think these lose the "pun" in the phrases... Same i

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-29 Thread Kai MacTane
At 2/29/2000 03:50 PM -0500, Mark E. Drummond wrote or quoted: >How about djb's "There are two kinds of interfaces ..." quote? I'm seeing all kinds of references to djb quotes here, some of which I know and some of which I don't. Does anyone know where I can find a compilation of djb quotes? I

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-29 Thread Len Budney
"Mark E. Drummond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How about djb's "There are two kinds of interfaces ..." quote? You mean: I have discovered that there are two types of command interfaces in the world of computing: good interfaces and user interfaces. --

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-29 Thread Mark E. Drummond
On Mon, Feb 28, 2000 at 01:27:31PM -0500, Dave Sill wrote: > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here are a couple of djb's old .sig lines: > > Sick of sendmail? Don't get mad; get qmail. > Secure, reliable, efficient. Pick three. How about djb's "There are two kinds of inter

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-29 Thread Mark E. Drummond
On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 04:16:05PM -0500, Dave Kitabjian wrote: > "cr.yp.to" > > Front: "Don't queue mail with sendmail" > Back: "Send mail with qmail" > I'll buy one of these ones ... Maybe put the 2 together? ;-) -- Mark Drummond Department of Computing Services UNIX Syste

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-29 Thread Vern Hart
Today, Michael Handler wrote: > > Front: > > "qmail" stylized text + dolphin logo, as displayed at > http://vern.com/tshirts/qmail/images/dolphin.gif > (though maybe without the URL) on the left breast > > Back: > >("qmail" stylized text) > (dolphi

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-29 Thread Kai MacTane
At 2/29/2000 12:19 PM -0700, Vern Hart wrote or quoted: >Heh! You've just exceeded my artistic capabilities. If someone >wanted to take on this cartoon endeavor, I'd be happy to put it on a >shirt. Sorry about that. It exceeds my artistic capabilities, too, or I'd be happy to draw it up. >

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-29 Thread Michael Handler
Vern Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Here's my latest round of designs: http://vern.com/tshirts/qmail/ > > I'll be making at least one more design[1] with a different slogan. > These will not have the pseudo-sendmail bat for those frightened by > bats (and pseudo-bats). As long as we're all

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-29 Thread Aaron L. Meehan
Quoting Mullen, Patrick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): ... > "Send mail with Q-Mail." I think it's generally accepted that qmail is spelled "qmail." No caps, no hyphens or other extraneous characters. Aaron

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-29 Thread Vern Hart
Today, Kai MacTane wrote: > > Actually, I rather like the idea of a bat struggling under a huge quantity > of mail, kind of small, with a larger dolphin underneath flinging mail all > over the place and looking generally happy. (Of course, dolphins pretty > much always look happy anyway...) Ma

RE: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-29 Thread Dave Sill
Vern Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Here's my latest round of designs: http://vern.com/tshirts/qmail/ Looking good... >I'll be making at least one more design[1] with a different slogan. I like "Secure, reliable, efficient. Pick three." -Dave

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-29 Thread Dave Sill
Adrian Urquhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I like the designs, and have a small suggestion for the slogan(s) which >is to dump the "mail" in each, so that they become: > >Don't queue with sendmail > >Send with qmail How about: Don't queue it with sendmail Send it with qmail -Dave

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-29 Thread Adrian Urquhart
Vern Hart wrote: > > Here's my latest round of designs: http://vern.com/tshirts/qmail/ > I like the designs, and have a small suggestion for the slogan(s) which is to dump the "mail" in each, so that they become: Don't queue with sendmail Send with qmail Just my 2 pence :o) Or even (q +

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-29 Thread Kai MacTane
At 2/28/2000 10:45 PM -0600, Edward S. Marshall wrote or quoted: >The dolphin would be great, especially if you could contrast it with a >forlorn-looking bat...*grin* Maybe: > >"Don't queue mail with Sendmail..." >"Send mail with QMail!" Actually, I rather like the idea of a bat struggling

RE: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-29 Thread Vern Hart
Today, Mullen, Patrick wrote: > > I can't believe I'm participating in this thread, > but I've been thinking about the design, and this > is what I came up with. It should avoid the > Q with arrows vs. dolphin debate, the sendmail.org > logo debate, keep the entire saying in one place > rather t

RE: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-29 Thread Mullen, Patrick
I can't believe I'm participating in this thread, but I've been thinking about the design, and this is what I came up with. It should avoid the Q with arrows vs. dolphin debate, the sendmail.org logo debate, keep the entire saying in one place rather than splitting it up front and back (a style t

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-29 Thread Tom Reinertson
On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, Vern Hart wrote: > I agree. The basic shirt is a Haynes Beefy-T, Heavyweight. > The sweatshirt option is a Jerzees 50/50 7.5 oz fleece. > The sweatshirt costs about $5 more. Beefy-T's are fine by me. Tom

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-28 Thread Edward S. Marshall
On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, Vern Hart wrote: > I had planned on making two varieties of each slogan. One with the > Q-arrows logo (small, on the left front) and the slogan and Q-arrows > logo on the back (big). The second variation would be the same with > the dolphin logo substituted. Should I be bot

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-28 Thread Vern Hart
Today, Tom Reinertson wrote: > > Personally, I wouldn't mix logos -- I like the styles you've > listed. I do have one suggestion, though. I would prefer to pay > a little more and get a really high quality, heavy t-shirt. I > can't stand light weight, flimsy, see-thru t-shirts. I agree. The

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-28 Thread Tom Reinertson
On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, Vern Hart wrote: > I had planned on making two varieties of each slogan. One with the > Q-arrows logo (small, on the left front) and the slogan and Q-arrows > logo on the back (big). The second variation would be the same with > the dolphin logo substituted. Should I be bot

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-28 Thread Vern Hart
Today, Adrian Urquhart wrote: > > Ok, I'll have a couple. > > Can I put in an official order? I'll let everyone know when orders will be possible and the URL for ordering. > Is there to be a choice of colour and front/back logos? I will take one or two other slogans and make them available wi

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-28 Thread Ted Deppner
On Mon, Feb 28, 2000 at 10:16:52PM +0100, Lars Uffmann wrote: > On Mon, Feb 28, 2000 at 01:22:38PM -0700, Vern Hart wrote: > > Today, John Gonzalez/netMDC admin wrote: > > > > > > I'll take two and make the bidness pay for them. But i would also like to > > > have a few diff. choices, some of the

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-28 Thread Vern Hart
Today, Rogerio Brito wrote: > > Well, I'd love to have one... Please if anybody makes one, > please do think about the poor souls of other countries that > will have to pay for the international money order and also > for the expensive overseas shipping rates... :-( The o

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-28 Thread Adrian Urquhart
Ok, I'll have a couple. Can I put in an official order? Is there to be a choice of colour and front/back logos? Adrian Vern Hart wrote: > > Today, Rogerio Brito wrote: > > > > How much would it be for shipping to Brazil? > > Looks like international shipping would be: > >4-6 weeks

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-28 Thread Vern Hart
Today, Rogerio Brito wrote: > > How much would it be for shipping to Brazil? Looks like international shipping would be: 4-6 weeks (USPS Surface) $3 plus $2 per item. 7-10 days (USPS Air) $6 plus $3 per item. 3 days(USPS Express) $25 plus $3 per item. Unless you wan

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-28 Thread Lars Uffmann
On Mon, Feb 28, 2000 at 01:22:38PM -0700, Vern Hart wrote: > Today, John Gonzalez/netMDC admin wrote: > > > > I'll take two and make the bidness pay for them. But i would also like to > > have a few diff. choices, some of the other 'slogans' mentioned were also > > good. > > I can do one or two

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-28 Thread Rogerio Brito
On Feb 28 2000, Dave Sill wrote: > [1] I prefer my dolphin logo to the Q w/arrows logo, but that wouldn't > stop me from buying one. :-) You did that dolphin? Wow... It's cute... > [2] Depends on quality of shirt, number of colors/sides printed, > etc., but $25 delivered is generous, and

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-28 Thread Rogerio Brito
On Feb 28 2000, Vern Hart wrote: > What about this design: http://vern.com/tshirts/qmail/ > If people like it, I could have it available for online ordering > within a week. I think that I like it. But the dolphin would be nicer, IMVHO, and more consistent also with sendmail's ba

RE: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-28 Thread Vern Hart
Today, John Gonzalez/netMDC admin wrote: > > I'll take two and make the bidness pay for them. But i would also like to > have a few diff. choices, some of the other 'slogans' mentioned were also > good. I can do one or two more "taglines". What are people's top "second" choices? Vern -- \ \

RE: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-28 Thread Vern Hart
Today, Kai MacTane wrote: > > My US$.02 on this design: > > * I prefer black t-shirts; I pretty much only wear white t-shirts on >laundry day. I prefer black as well, but I can do gray, white, and tan much quicker and cheaper in one-off runs. If enough of us decide we want black, we can ta

RE: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-28 Thread John Gonzalez/netMDC admin
I'll take two and make the bidness pay for them. But i would also like to have a few diff. choices, some of the other 'slogans' mentioned were also good. On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, Vern Hart wrote: >Today, Dave Sill wrote: >> >> I've been kicking around the idea of a qmail t-shirt for some time, >>

RE: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-28 Thread Dave Sill
Vern Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >There are a lot of good ideas here! >Usually when I'm asked to make a qmail shirt, ideas are few and far >between. Well, this is qmail HQ. :-) >What about this design: http://vern.com/tshirts/qmail/ >If people like it, I could have it available for online

RE: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-28 Thread Kai MacTane
At 12:13 PM 2/28/2000 -0700, Vern Hart wrote or quoted: > >What about this design: http://vern.com/tshirts/qmail/ >If people like it, I could have it available for online ordering >within a week. My US$.02 on this design: * I prefer black t-shirts; I pretty much only wear white t-shirts on

RE: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-28 Thread Vern Hart
Today, Dave Sill wrote: > > I've been kicking around the idea of a qmail t-shirt for some time, > but I've been too busy to actually do it. There are a lot of good ideas here! Usually when I'm asked to make a qmail shirt, ideas are few and far between. > I'll buy at least one if: > > 1) I lik

RE: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-28 Thread Soffen, Matthew
Gee.. I thought I was bad wearing a 2x ( but I am 6', 280ish lbs with a 56" chest..) Matt > -Original Message- > From: Dave Sill [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 1:28 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Encryption

RE: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-28 Thread Dave Sill
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Let's face it. We're not just fans of qmail, we're fans of djb. I >think we need some t-shirts printed. Let's see: > > "I'm with djb" > >or maybe > > "Qmail is Qool" > >or > > "cr.yp.to" > >Hmm. Maybe, > > "UTC for me" > >Or

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-25 Thread Martin Randall
Hello Dave On 25-Feb-00, you wrote: > > Front: "Don't queue mail with sendmail" > Back: "Send mail with qmail" > That ones great. You going to put that in the public domain so people can reproduce it ? Regards...Martin -- --- A man of genius makes no mistakes. His er

RE: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-25 Thread Edward S. Marshall
On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, Dave Kitabjian wrote: > Front: "Don't queue mail with sendmail" > Back: "Send mail with qmail" All I need to know is where to send a money order. ;-) -- Edward S. Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.nyx.net/~emarshal/ --

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-25 Thread David L. Nicol
Greg Owen wrote: > > > Or how about > > > > Front: "Don't queue mail with sendmail" > > Back: "Send mail with qmail" > > ROTFL. > > I'd buy that one. If someone else can do the art I can get them printed _

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-25 Thread Jos Backus
> > Front: "Don't queue mail with sendmail" > > Back: "Send mail with qmail" I'd buy one, too. -- Jos Backus _/ _/_/_/ "Reliability means never _/ _/ _/ having to say you're sorry." _/ _/_

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-25 Thread Tracy R Reed
On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 04:16:05PM -0500, Dave Kitabjian wrote: > Let's face it. We're not just fans of qmail, we're fans of djb. I think we need some >t-shirts printed. Let's see: Brilliant though his software may be, his licensing forever dooms it to obscurity. :( What I wouldn't give for a pl

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-25 Thread iv0
to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 4:26 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Encryption and t-shirts > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 04:16:05PM -0500, Dave Kitabjian wrote: > > Let's face it. We're not just fans of qmail, we're

RE: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-25 Thread Kai MacTane
At 04:30 PM 2/25/2000 -0500, Tim Hunter wrote or quoted: >How about: > >Front: "fsck sendmail" >Back: I prefer the previous... > > Front: "Don't queue mail with sendmail" > > Back: "Send mail with qmail" It seems more humorous and creative. --

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-25 Thread petervd
On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 03:26:27PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 04:16:05PM -0500, Dave Kitabjian wrote: > > Let's face it. We're not just fans of qmail, we're fans of djb. I think we need >some t-shirts printed. Let's see: > > > > "I'm with djb" > > > > "cr.

RE: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-25 Thread Tim Hunter
How about: Front: "fsck sendmail" Back: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 4:24 PM To: Qmail List (E-mail) Subject: Re: Encryption and t-shirts On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 04:25:47PM -0500, Greg Owen wrote:

RE: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-25 Thread Chad Day
: Encryption and t-shirts On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 04:16:05PM -0500, Dave Kitabjian wrote: > Let's face it. We're not just fans of qmail, we're fans of djb. I think we need some t-shirts printed. Let's see: > > "I'm with djb" > > &

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-25 Thread jacob
On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 04:16:05PM -0500, Dave Kitabjian wrote: > Let's face it. We're not just fans of qmail, we're fans of djb. I think we need some >t-shirts printed. Let's see: > > "I'm with djb" > > "cr.yp.to" > > Front: "Don't queue mail with sendmail" > Back: "Se

Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-25 Thread petervd
On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 04:25:47PM -0500, Greg Owen wrote: > > Or how about > > > > Front: "Don't queue mail with sendmail" > > Back: "Send mail with qmail" > > ROTFL. > > I'd buy that one. Count me in too! Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly

RE: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-25 Thread Greg Owen
> Or how about > > Front: "Don't queue mail with sendmail" > Back: "Send mail with qmail" ROTFL. I'd buy that one. -- gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-25 Thread Dave Kitabjian
Let's face it. We're not just fans of qmail, we're fans of djb. I think we need some t-shirts printed. Let's see: "I'm with djb" or maybe "Qmail is Qool" or "cr.yp.to" Hmm. Maybe, "UTC for me" Or how about Front: "Don't queue mail with sendmail"