Hi. I was about to email the list in a panic about a problem that I though was qmail related. I've been subjected to a lack of sleep as of late so my powers of observation seem to be a little below average right now. I couldn't figure out why qmail stopped relaying mail. I check everything. I restarted everything. I searched the archive up and down. I check the Programming Internet Email book desperate for clues. Then I actually took 2 seconds to look at the response I was getting from smtp...and it was sendmail. Shivers start to go down my spine. What the hell was going on here? Turns out someone had restarted the box and before they did modified the /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail file to start up again. A handy exit 0 had been placed there before... Anyway, killed sendmail (and fixed it's start up script again), started up qmail again and every thing was fixed. I'm alone at the office, it's late, I'm seeing things and I just had to tell someone... Sorry about that... Pat -- Freestyle Interactive | http://www.freestyleinteractive.com | 415.778.0610