Re: qmail + Courrier-IMAP vs just Courrier-IMAP server (newbie)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello Jean-Christian, Tuesday, August 14, 2001, 5:13:34 AM, you wrote: > My original plan was to install qmail - VMailMgr - Courrier-IMAP. > But after a little reading I find out that Courrier-IMAP has it own > email server implementation. So it seems that qmail is not needed? > Am I right? If so what are the advantages/disadvantages to either > using qmail with the Courrier-IMAP engine or just using Courrier as > the mail and IMAP server? AFAIK, Mr. Sam doesn't consider courier-mta as being production quality and I know of nobody that actually uses it. But if you want to use qmail and courier-imap in a virtual domain environment, I suggest you take a look at http://inter7.com/vpopmail as courier-imap got direct integration of vpopmail. Best regards, Gabriel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQEVAwUBO3kHDMZa2WpymlDxAQHuYQf9F3NM69LzTG9hNimFk2B72FaTf047jzVy PH+C7+MuGvU+2CnI9jiavsIm9w6ChC+Eeq0VNps4UvYIwU1PJ09yP16Dtjh7xzXH c/EIHEAmGMV3+g40JkXGQdOIwSIfj2lg2HFCtEM4g2nuVL5tUiJuPXBPajEtfXYs rloUUurepslsIUyKhoIBmmpx28FNOtRhKnnF/pW8yI7pESdHwumi3gxZ5Hflk8oT NDrmDvsShrMC5Kvg8b/hdw6vktAlqdnor/vjoFtHx2EkESVRLPoQI6mjKv3VtmMK IJk/QwqbgVphrMGSb2At4i9L0QE7N5PWCjwlRYqHXu7AL1KsOrOozA== =TnrE -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: qmail + Courrier-IMAP vs just Courrier-IMAP server (newbie)
#include On Tue, Aug 14 2001, Jean-Christian Imbeault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My original plan was to install qmail - VMailMgr - Courrier-IMAP. But after > a little reading I find out that Courrier-IMAP has it own email server > implementation. So it seems that qmail is not needed? Yeah, it seams so. > Am I right? If so what are the advantages/disadvantages to either using > qmail with the Courrier-IMAP engine or just using Courrier as the mail and > IMAP server? No, you're wrong. There're some nifty features like userauth and tlsauth in courier, but just look into the source code. I don't say that's a mess but there're some design flaws in that what are missing from qmail. ---jul
qmail + Courrier-IMAP vs just Courrier-IMAP server (newbie)
My original plan was to install qmail - VMailMgr - Courrier-IMAP. But after a little reading I find out that Courrier-IMAP has it own email server implementation. So it seems that qmail is not needed? Am I right? If so what are the advantages/disadvantages to either using qmail with the Courrier-IMAP engine or just using Courrier as the mail and IMAP server? Thanks! Jc _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
checkpassword and IMAP
Hi, I'm running both IMAP and POP servers. Both are using the same authvchpw authentication module by IMAP. I run pop as: /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -R 0 pop3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup FQDN \ /home/mail/bin/vchkpw /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir 2>&1 | /var/qmail/bin/splogger pop3d & I run imap as: /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -R 0 imap /usr/local/courier/bin/imapd 2>&1 & However, I'm always having problems making vpopmail and courier-imap work together. (Compiling courier-imap with --with-authvchpw always give me problems), thus I want to use checkpassword for IMAP authentication. This means that I want to install IMAP independent of vpopmail, and use checkpassword for authentication. What's the proper tcpserver syntax to do this? Or, can checkpassword work with authvchkpw? Regards, --mel.
Does Vpopmail support IMAP?
hello friends - after a lot of hassles, i was successful in installing Qmail+IMAP-with-Maildir-Patch-by-David-Harris+Vpopmail+MySQL. following is my quesries relating to the above: 1. Does Vpopmail support IMAP-with-Maildir-Patch-by-David? Or is it only good for POP3 mails? 2. After installing the above combination of softwares (I have followed all the intructions step by step and also tried the various tips given on this list), I am still not able to receive incoming emails via Outlook Express or Netscape Messenger using the IMAP protocol. I tried both Vchkpw cdb-file format as well as MySQL format for username/password authentication. But nothing seems to work. When I click "Get Mails", neither of the client email software asks for password and says, "No emails to be downloaded". Though I am able to send emails using IMAP protocol. I even checked the Maildir directory for the particular user and i found that the email has reached in there. When I try to telnet as: >telnet newqmail.com 143, I get connected to the IMAP server, but when I type it displays an error: Trying 192.168.0.169... connected to nete.linux(192.168.0.169). Escape character is'^]'. * PREAUTH nete.linux IMAPreu1 v12.250 server ready user [EMAIL PROTECTED] user BAD command unrecognized: [EMAIL PROTECTED] But, the same thing works with POP3 proptocol. Using POP3 protocol i am able to send as well as receive mails using mail clients. Any suggestions/help/tips is appreciated. = KK [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Associate Netesoft India Ltd. http://www.netesoft.com P: 91.40.6319813 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
Re: How to piss people off easily (Was: How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services) Reply-To: robin@socha.net
"Kirti S. Bajwa" wrote: > > Sorry Business manners have nothing to do whether you pay or not. Right -- it's simple professionalism. It doesn't take much to be polite. You don't have to reply if you don't want to. -Stephen-
RE: How to piss people off easily (Was: How to create dynamic use rs for IMAP Email services) Reply-To: robin@socha.net
Sorry Business manners have nothing to do whether you pay or not. Kirti "Kirt" S. Bajwa Chief Technical Officer TIB Computer Systems, Inc. Mountain City, TN 37683-0049 Tel: (423) 727-3001 Fax: (423) 727-3002 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Felix von Leitner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 11:56 AM To: Kirti S. Bajwa Subject: Re: How to piss people off easily (Was: How to create dynamic use rs for IMAP Email services) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thus spake Kirti S. Bajwa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > If you are too incompetent to use a > > search engine, why are you running a mail server? > I am just wondering if hurdling insults at the first opportunity is the > direction this list is heading towards. What happened to common decency and > business manners? You want business manners? You pay for them. You want free help? You ask for it nicely and show me that you don't waste my time.
Re: How to piss people off easily (Was: How to create dynamic use rs for IMAP Email services) Reply-To: robin@socha.net
Henning Brauer wrote: >On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 03:00:50PM +0100, Brian S. Craigie wrote: > >>I agree. We're here to help, aren't we? Otherwise, what's the list >>for? >> > >Not for posting FAQs every few minutes. >We already had this discussion, stop it. Now. > Goodbye. Thanks to all who have helped me over the years. I've had enough of this childish behaviour. Brian
Re: How to piss people off easily (Was: How to create dynamic use rs for IMAP Email services) Reply-To: robin@socha.net
On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 03:00:50PM +0100, Brian S. Craigie wrote: > > I agree. We're here to help, aren't we? Otherwise, what's the list > for? Not for posting FAQs every few minutes. We already had this discussion, stop it. Now. -- * Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.bsws.de * * Roedingsmarkt 14, 20459 Hamburg, Germany * Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie)
Re: How to piss people off easily (Was: How to create dynamic use rs for IMAP Email services) Reply-To: robin@socha.net
I agree. We're here to help, aren't we? Otherwise, what's the list for? Let's be nice to each other. I get enough bitching from the ex. Warmest Regards, Brian Kirti S. Bajwa wrote: >>If you are too incompetent to use a >>search engine, why are you running a mail server? >> > >I am just wondering if hurdling insults at the first opportunity is the >direction this list is heading towards. What happened to common decency and >business manners? > >
RE: How to piss people off easily (Was: How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services) Reply-To: robin@socha.net
> If you are too incompetent to use a > search engine, why are you running a mail server? I am just wondering if hurdling insults at the first opportunity is the direction this list is heading towards. What happened to common decency and business manners? Kirti "Kirt" S. Bajwa GM/CTO TIB, Inc. Mountain City, TN 37683-0049 Tel: (423) 727-3001 Fax: (423) 727-3002 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: KK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 3:33 AM To: Robin S. Socha Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How to piss people off easily (Was: How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All - I apologize for overlooking the fact that this is not a linux system admin mailing list. Anyway, thanks for all the help. I am not running any mail server; being a new bee, am just experimenting with various options available to configure qmail with other add-ons. - Original Message - From: Robin S. Socha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 1:11 PM Subject: How to piss people off easily (Was: How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 12:09:43PM +0530, KK wrote: > > Can I create dynamic system users using the command "useradd" from > > inside a perl script/java servlet which need not run as "root"? I > > suppose that only "root" has the privilege to create system users. > > Is there a way around this? > > I presume that your are well aware of the fact that this has nothing > to do whatsoever with qmail. If you are too incompetent to use a > search engine, why are you running a mail server? > > RTFM: man 5 sudoers: > Cmnd_Alias USERADD=/sbin/useradd > www ALL=NOPASSWD: USERADD > > > Any suggestions/help is appreciated. > > http://learn.to/edit_messages/ - before your EVER submit mail to a > technical mailing list again. > -- > Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). > `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They > prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com) >
Re: How to piss people off easily (Was: How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services) Reply-To: robin@socha.net
Hi All - I apologize for overlooking the fact that this is not a linux system admin mailing list. Anyway, thanks for all the help. I am not running any mail server; being a new bee, am just experimenting with various options available to configure qmail with other add-ons. - Original Message - From: Robin S. Socha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 1:11 PM Subject: How to piss people off easily (Was: How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 12:09:43PM +0530, KK wrote: > > Can I create dynamic system users using the command "useradd" from > > inside a perl script/java servlet which need not run as "root"? I > > suppose that only "root" has the privilege to create system users. > > Is there a way around this? > > I presume that your are well aware of the fact that this has nothing > to do whatsoever with qmail. If you are too incompetent to use a > search engine, why are you running a mail server? > > RTFM: man 5 sudoers: > Cmnd_Alias USERADD=/sbin/useradd > www ALL=NOPASSWD: USERADD > > > Any suggestions/help is appreciated. > > http://learn.to/edit_messages/ - before your EVER submit mail to a > technical mailing list again. > -- > Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). > `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They > prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com) >
How to piss people off easily (Was: How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services) Reply-To: robin@socha.net
On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 12:09:43PM +0530, KK wrote: > Can I create dynamic system users using the command "useradd" from > inside a perl script/java servlet which need not run as "root"? I > suppose that only "root" has the privilege to create system users. > Is there a way around this? I presume that your are well aware of the fact that this has nothing to do whatsoever with qmail. If you are too incompetent to use a search engine, why are you running a mail server? RTFM: man 5 sudoers: Cmnd_Alias USERADD=/sbin/useradd www ALL=NOPASSWD: USERADD > Any suggestions/help is appreciated. http://learn.to/edit_messages/ - before your EVER submit mail to a technical mailing list again. -- Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)
Re: How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services
Thanks to all for giving quite a no. of solutions to the following pbl. One more query though. Can I create dynamic system users using the command "useradd" from inside a perl script/java servlet which need not run as "root"? I suppose that only "root" has the privilege to create system users. Is there a way around this? Any suggestions/help is appreciated. Thanks in advance. KK [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: KK To: Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 7:32 PM Subject: How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services Hello Everyone - I am a new entrant to the "qmail" world and have recently installed the qmail_1.03 server on a Red Hat Linux 6.0. I have also istalled the UW-imap server with Maildir support. I have successfully configured NS-Communicator to send and receive mails using the IMAP ptotocol using qmail. I am even able to send and receive emails using Outlook Express from other Windows systems in the local network. For accessing thses emails, I was creating system users by logging-in as root and using the LInuxConf utility. Now my questions are: 1. How do I create dynamic system users (and assign them passwords) and the mail directories within the users home directories from inside an email-client application, which uses the IMAP protocol to access emails (just like it is done on hotmail.com or any other web-based email systems)? 2. Is the creation of system users avoidable for generating email addresses? For eg. can I have an email addrress account hosted on the above email server - [EMAIL PROTECTED] without creating a system user named "joe"? If yes, how can I make this possible, both as a root user and also from within an email-client application? Is there a readymade script available to do this?
Re: How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services
On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 01:00:56PM -0500, Robin S. Socha wrote: > * Greg White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010719 12:58]: > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 09:53:23PM +0530, KK wrote: > > > > 1. How do I create dynamic system users (and assign them passwords) > > > and the mail directories within the users home directories from > > > inside an email-client application, which uses the IMAP protocol to > > > access emails (just like it is done on hotmail.com or any other > > > web-based email systems)? > > > > Let me see if I understand this correctly -- you want to create mail > > accounts from within an MUA? If that's what you're asking, it cannot be > > done, and if it could I would run* as from from qmail as humanly > > possible. Even Microsoft does not have this "feature". If this is not > > what you're asking, please restate the nature of the problem. > > Eh. You're in Unixland, not in Redmon. Sure it could be done. man > procmail maildrop if you're into deviant sexual practices. Hmmm... come > to think of it, man dotqmail would even do. Wicked. qmail itself does not do this. Of course, you _could_ cook up some setuid mess that created arbitrary virtual users (or even system users) upon receipt of mail, but would you? Yuck. Better that the OP believe that it is impossible. IMHO it is impossible to do securely. -- Greg White
Re: How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services
* Greg White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010719 12:58]: > On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 09:53:23PM +0530, KK wrote: > > 1. How do I create dynamic system users (and assign them passwords) > > and the mail directories within the users home directories from > > inside an email-client application, which uses the IMAP protocol to > > access emails (just like it is done on hotmail.com or any other > > web-based email systems)? > > Let me see if I understand this correctly -- you want to create mail > accounts from within an MUA? If that's what you're asking, it cannot be > done, and if it could I would run* as from from qmail as humanly > possible. Even Microsoft does not have this "feature". If this is not > what you're asking, please restate the nature of the problem. Eh. You're in Unixland, not in Redmon. Sure it could be done. man procmail maildrop if you're into deviant sexual practices. Hmmm... come to think of it, man dotqmail would even do. Wicked.
Re: How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services
At 21:53 19.07.2001 +0530, you wrote: >Hello Everyone - > >I am a new entrant to the "qmail" world and have recently installed the >qmail_1.03 server on a Red Hat Linux 6.0. I have also istalled the UW-imap >server with Maildir support. I have successfully configured >NS-Communicator to send and receive mails using the IMAP ptotocol using >qmail. I am even able to send and receive emails using Outlook Express >from other Windows systems in the local network. For accessing thses >emails, I was creating system users by logging-in as root and using the >LInuxConf utility. Now my questions are: > >1. How do I create dynamic system users (and assign them passwords) and >the mail directories within the users home directories from inside an >email-client application, which uses the IMAP protocol to access emails >(just like it is done on hotmail.com or any other web-based email systems)? > check out www.qmail.org, there are several solutions... >2. Is the creation of system users avoidable for generating email >addresses? For eg. can I have an email addrress account hosted on the >above email server - <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >without creating a system user named "joe"? If yes, how can I make this >possible, both as a root user and also from within an email-client >application? Is there a readymade script available to do this? > see 1. there are web-administration solutions to do this >I hope I have explained my problem in the right sense and am able to put >across the issue at hand. Any (and in fact all) replies/help is highly >appreciated. Hoping to get some replies from the techie gurus. > >Thanks & kind regards. > >KK ><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --/-/-- Lukas Beeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---\-\-- \ \ My HomePage: http://www.projectdream.org> / /
Re: How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services
On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 09:53:23PM +0530, KK wrote: > Hello Everyone - > > I am a new entrant to the "qmail" world and have recently installed the qmail_1.03 >server on a Red Hat Linux 6.0. I have also istalled the UW-imap server with Maildir >support. I have successfully configured NS-Communicator to send and receive mails >using the IMAP ptotocol using qmail. I am even able to send and receive emails using >Outlook Express from other Windows systems in the local network. For accessing thses >emails, I was creating system users by logging-in as root and using the LInuxConf >utility. Now my questions are: > > 1. How do I create dynamic system users (and assign them passwords) and the mail >directories within the users home directories from inside an email-client >application, which uses the IMAP protocol to access emails (just like it is done on >hotmail.com or any other web-based email systems)? Let me see if I understand this correctly -- you want to create mail accounts from within an MUA? If that's what you're asking, it cannot be done, and if it could I would run* as from from qmail as humanly possible. Even Microsoft does not have this "feature". If this is not what you're asking, please restate the nature of the problem. *screaming. > > 2. Is the creation of system users avoidable for generating email addresses? For eg. >can I have an email addrress account hosted on the above email server - >[EMAIL PROTECTED] without creating a system user named "joe"? If yes, how can I >make this possible, both as a root user and also from within an email-client >application? Is there a readymade script available to do this? Lots of options available here. Start with 'man qmail-users'. Look into the 'vpopmail' package, or its alternative (whose name escapes me at this moment). System accounts are not a requirement, and there are tons of ways to attack the problem. -- Greg White
Re: How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services
* KK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010719 11:39]: Turn off HTML and wrap your lines properly. Your message looks like shit and is 4x too big. > I am a new entrant to the "qmail" world and have recently installed > the qmail_1.03 server on a Red Hat Linux 6.0. I have also istalled the > UW-imap server with Maildir support. So you're using an outdated and insecure OS along with the IMAP server from hell. Good luck. > 1. How do I create dynamic system users (and assign them passwords) > and the mail directories within the users home directories from inside > an email-client application, which uses the IMAP protocol to access > emails (just like it is done on hotmail.com or any other web-based > email systems)? Not at all. Hotmail and similar sites uses CGI scripts to create the account. Check http://www.inter7.com/vqregister/ > 2. Is the creation of system users avoidable for generating email > addresses? Check http://www.inter7.com/vpopmail/ God bless inter7.com.
How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services
Hello Everyone - I am a new entrant to the "qmail" world and have recently installed the qmail_1.03 server on a Red Hat Linux 6.0. I have also istalled the UW-imap server with Maildir support. I have successfully configured NS-Communicator to send and receive mails using the IMAP ptotocol using qmail. I am even able to send and receive emails using Outlook Express from other Windows systems in the local network. For accessing thses emails, I was creating system users by logging-in as root and using the LInuxConf utility. Now my questions are: 1. How do I create dynamic system users (and assign them passwords) and the mail directories within the users home directories from inside an email-client application, which uses the IMAP protocol to access emails (just like it is done on hotmail.com or any other web-based email systems)? 2. Is the creation of system users avoidable for generating email addresses? For eg. can I have an email addrress account hosted on the above email server - [EMAIL PROTECTED] without creating a system user named "joe"? If yes, how can I make this possible, both as a root user and also from within an email-client application? Is there a readymade script available to do this? I hope I have explained my problem in the right sense and am able to put across the issue at hand. Any (and in fact all) replies/help is highly appreciated. Hoping to get some replies from the techie gurus. Thanks & kind regards. KK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services
Hello Everyone - I am a new entrant to the "qmail" world and have recently installed the qmail_1.03 server on a Red Hat Linux 6.0. I have also istalled the UW-imap server with Maildir support. I have successfully configured NS-Communicator to send and receive mails using the IMAP ptotocol using qmail. I am even able to send and receive emails using Outlook Express from other Windows systems in the local network. For accessing thses emails, I was creating system users by logging-in as root and using the LInuxConf utility. Now my questions are: 1. How do I create dynamic system users (and assign them passwords) and the mail directories within the users home directories from inside an email-client application, which uses the IMAP protocol to access emails (just like it is done on hotmail.com or any other web-based email systems)? 2. Is the creation of system users avoidable for generating email addresses? For eg. can I have an email addrress account hosted on the above email server - [EMAIL PROTECTED] without creating a system user named "joe"? If yes, how can I make this possible, both as a root user and also from within an email-client application? Is there a readymade script available to do this? I hope I have explained my problem in the right sense and am able to put across the issue at hand. Any (and in fact all) replies/help is highly appreciated. Thanks & kind regards. KK[EMAIL PROTECTED]AssociateNetesoft India Ltd.http://www.netesoft.comhttp://www.netesolutions.com---The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any reviews, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer.
RE: qmail, Maildir, IMAP, and MS Outlook
We use O2k & courier-imap sitting on top of vpopmail - works fine. Allows webmail to plug in nicely too. -Original Message- From: Ricardo SIGNES [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 11 July 2001 23:04 To: David Talkington Cc: Sam Carleton; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: qmail, Maildir, IMAP, and MS Outlook In a message dated Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 01:33:13AM -0500, David Talkington wrote: > Sam Carleton wrote: > >Does anyone know of a IMAP server that get along with Outlook 2000 and that > >works with Maildir/? > We have no trouble with Outlook Express and Courier, and I believe > Outlook uses the same mail subsystem as Outlook Express IF the former > is in "internet mail" mode, and not MAPI (I think they call that > "corporate/workgroup mode"). MAPI is an abomination anyway. > At least that was true of Outlook when last I dealt with it, which I'm > happy to say was about 18 months ago. That's true for Outlook 2000, yes. Outlook 2002 is happy to run IMAP -and- MAPI, so I've switched to that at work. Sadly, we use the abomination. -- rjbs
Re: qmail, Maildir, IMAP, and MS Outlook
In a message dated Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 01:33:13AM -0500, David Talkington wrote: > Sam Carleton wrote: > >Does anyone know of a IMAP server that get along with Outlook 2000 and that > >works with Maildir/? > We have no trouble with Outlook Express and Courier, and I believe > Outlook uses the same mail subsystem as Outlook Express IF the former > is in "internet mail" mode, and not MAPI (I think they call that > "corporate/workgroup mode"). MAPI is an abomination anyway. > At least that was true of Outlook when last I dealt with it, which I'm > happy to say was about 18 months ago. That's true for Outlook 2000, yes. Outlook 2002 is happy to run IMAP -and- MAPI, so I've switched to that at work. Sadly, we use the abomination. -- rjbs PGP signature
Re: qmail, Maildir, IMAP, and MS Outlook
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Sam Carleton wrote: >Does anyone know of a IMAP server that get along with Outlook 2000 and that >works with Maildir/? We have no trouble with Outlook Express and Courier, and I believe Outlook uses the same mail subsystem as Outlook Express IF the former is in "internet mail" mode, and not MAPI (I think they call that "corporate/workgroup mode"). MAPI is an abomination anyway. At least that was true of Outlook when last I dealt with it, which I'm happy to say was about 18 months ago. - -d - -- David Talkington http://www.spotnet.org PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/dt000823.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQEVAwUBO0vzK71ZYOtSwT+tAQGpdAgA0b0HOE98NrBJEwssf40La3PX50ibiMUE SlsFRu96q6qKhakJqD7Yw5ugbEcZnmZb6wL15S3zbcJXZpXGjfnVcM7IoJT4Aygo b3Nh1xZWscsxTbsKhMSkv3SasyTN/AKdfhmnZnBnQNHFCdfUbBDyxw0D0mn0MBrM Zbt/ZhiTKOc6jb5XfsnuRXG6/3P78+84BUprqrwV/mLALZLomJaEze8Gme61+Feg 7rtyVldZLVjegp65hp37mfrSO2gMRzn+69RW4OWCgA7JdLDeni6l7asgwxh7ZnUj /LQNHBw03XkRXchwQeRv6je42AGpoCKGLvl1W2YQe3a+fLXLaAkdoQ== =+XNF -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: qmail, Maildir, IMAP, and MS Outlook
we use courier-imapd with no problems on our office mailserver, and some people here use Outlook with no problems. While courier can be a pain at times it's probably the best solution. You could also try UW imapd with the (unofficial) Maildir patches. i don't think anyone has problems moving folders around or whatever; we usually make all the folders subfolders of 'Maildir' so if I wanted to make a folder called foo The directory for foo would then be Maildir/.foo/ and if it had a subdirectory bar it would be Maildir/.foo/.bar/ I think you have to play around with the settings in OE a little to get them to recognize the folders but it should definitely work. It's not going to be as easy to configure as another MS product since, as you mentioned, but it should definitely work. perhaps you could let us know the settings you're using and the exact errors you're getting. You might try creating folders on the server and see if you can get outlook to recognize them. for instance, (not as root): % cd Maildir/ % /var/qmail/bin/maildirmake .foo will On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 10:18:51PM -0400, Sam Carleton wrote: > Before folks start flaming me, I know Outlook sucks and I know that > Microsoft has never written a decent piece of code. With that said... > > I am using qmail, because it is the best mail server out there. I would > like to be able to configure MS Outlook so that it interacts with qmail the > same way it does with Exchange. Or at least similar in the respect that one > can manage folders and move mail around and it all stays on the server. My > understanding is that IMAP is the solution. I have installed courier-IMAP, > but from that mailing list I have learned that Outlook is not a standard MUA > with respect it IMAP, or anything else for that matter. > > Does anyone know of a IMAP server that get along with Outlook 2000 and that > works with Maildir/? > > Sam >
qmail, Maildir, IMAP, and MS Outlook
Before folks start flaming me, I know Outlook sucks and I know that Microsoft has never written a decent piece of code. With that said... I am using qmail, because it is the best mail server out there. I would like to be able to configure MS Outlook so that it interacts with qmail the same way it does with Exchange. Or at least similar in the respect that one can manage folders and move mail around and it all stays on the server. My understanding is that IMAP is the solution. I have installed courier-IMAP, but from that mailing list I have learned that Outlook is not a standard MUA with respect it IMAP, or anything else for that matter. Does anyone know of a IMAP server that get along with Outlook 2000 and that works with Maildir/? Sam
Re: imap to virtual domain instead of pop (user%domain)
do you know if i can use my patched uw imapd? thanks - Original Message - From: "Charles Cazabon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 12:27 PM Subject: Re: imap to virtual domain instead of pop (user%domain) > alexus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > can i imap to my virtual domain instead of pop (user%domain)? > > Yes. vmailmgr supports Courier IMAP as well as qmail-pop3d. > > Also, you might want to trim your .sig a bit for mailing lists. > > Charles > -- > --- > Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ > Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. > --- >
Re: imap to virtual domain instead of pop (user%domain)
On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 12:11:04PM -0400, alexus wrote: > can i imap to my virtual domain instead of pop (user%domain)? don't crosspost!!! mail to one list a time. if this is the wrong list someone will tell you which one to use. and drop this stupid signature. a sig should be 4 lines or less. -- * Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.bsws.de * * Roedingsmarkt 14, 20459 Hamburg, Germany * Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie)
Re: imap to virtual domain instead of pop (user%domain)
alexus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > can i imap to my virtual domain instead of pop (user%domain)? Yes. vmailmgr supports Courier IMAP as well as qmail-pop3d. Also, you might want to trim your .sig a bit for mailing lists. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
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RE: courier-imap and tcpserver ?
this is working nicely for me... http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/2000/04/msg01189.html -- Michael Boyiazis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail Architect, NetZero, Inc. > -Original Message- > From: Oden Eriksson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 8:45 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: courier-imap and tcpserver ? > > > Hi list, > > I wonder if anyone has courier-imap running under tcpserver, > and if so could > share how it was done? > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > > Regards // Oden Eriksson > Kvikkjokk Networks >
UW-IMAP + qmail + vpopmail
Hello friends, Is there a patch/distro for UW-IMAP or else IMAP server (forget about Courier IMAP) which work with vpopmail authentication? I know and download version with Maildir support, but it use PAM, passwd. I want to use imapdlogin -> authvchkpw ->uw-imap with modification uw-imap with modification I'll want. Somebody was make this before. I think is necessary to cut auth part. kind regards, -- Claudiu Costin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
courier-imap and tcpserver ?
Hi list, I wonder if anyone has courier-imap running under tcpserver, and if so could share how it was done? Thanks in advance. -- Regards // Oden Eriksson Kvikkjokk Networks
Re: IMAP benchmarks
Thanks for the pointer.
Re: POP/IMAP server - more NEWBIE
* Technology Strategic Planning writes: > "Nick (Keith) Fish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Stephen Froehlich wrote: Do you read your mail from bottom to top? If not, why do you start your reply on top of the original mail? >>> In the near future, I'll need to allow encrypted remote access. >>> (Encrypted only.) I have a few, relatively trusted users. How >>> would you go about meeting those requirements? >> >> Run two copies of tcpserver under supervise (well, four if you want >> both POP and IMAP), one not encrypted and available to your local >> network as specified in tcpserver's rules files, and the other >> encrypted and available to anyone. [...] > For one, how good is the IMAP encryption? That depends on your implementation. > Is it just preventing casual browsing, serious private attempts, That depends on your implementation. > or people with supercomputers? Which interest should they have in your private mail? > How about VPN solutions? That depends on your implementation. > Is there a decent Linux server for MS's VPN? How do you want to write something decent for something not decent? There are several VPN implementations (FreeS/WAN works well), but if you're looking into VPN solutions, you'd better take a close look at OpenBSD. > I have an NT server (with scads of processing power), but am afraid to > expose it to the internet in any way, shape, or form. MS says it's secure. Just do it. They wouldn't *sell* anything that has bugs, right? > The mail server will be inside of a DMZ once I get things up and > running fully - which is a much better place to do this from. If you intend to run MS Exchange, it won't matter much. > How about the PGP based IP tunneling? Any experiences or impressions? It works. But why would you want to do it if there are other options? > Is this overkill? No. Underkill. > Should I be concerned if we have to carry it on a laptop across > borders? That depends on the border. -- Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)
Re: POP/IMAP server - more NEWBIE
For one, how good is the IMAP encryption? Is it just preventing casual browsing, serious private attempts, or people with supercomputers? How about VPN solutions? Is there a decent Linux server for MS's VPN? I have an NT server (with scads of processing power), but am afraid to expose it to the internet in any way, shape, or form. The mail server will be inside of a DMZ once I get things up and running fully - which is a much better place to do this from. How about the PGP based IP tunneling? Any experiences or impressions? Is this overkill? Should I be concerned if we have to carry it on a laptop across borders? - Original Message - From: "Nick (Keith) Fish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Stephen Froehlich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Qmail Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 10:35 AM Subject: Re: POP/IMAP server - more NEWBIE > Stephen Froehlich wrote: > > > > OK, I'd like to also gather some opinions on how best to implement POP > > and/or IMAP. > > > > Here are my requirements: > > > > In the immediate present, I just need to allow the local network to access. > > In the near future, I'll need to allow encrypted remote access. (Encrypted > > only.) I have a few, relatively trusted users. How would you go about > > meeting those requirements? > > Run two copies of tcpserver under supervise (well, four if you want both > POP and IMAP), one not encrypted and available to your local network as > specified in tcpserver's rules files, and the other encrypted and > available to anyone. You could also bind them to separate interfaces; but > I also recommend using tcpserver in more or less of the same manner, it's > considered quite secure. As far as what packages to run for the > encryption, I wouldn't be of any explicit help there considering I haven't > ever attempted at doing so myself. =) > > -- > Nick (Keith) Fish > Network Engineer > Triton Technologies, Inc.
Re: POP/IMAP server - more NEWBIE
Stephen Froehlich wrote: > > OK, I'd like to also gather some opinions on how best to implement POP > and/or IMAP. > > Here are my requirements: > > In the immediate present, I just need to allow the local network to access. > In the near future, I'll need to allow encrypted remote access. (Encrypted > only.) I have a few, relatively trusted users. How would you go about > meeting those requirements? Run two copies of tcpserver under supervise (well, four if you want both POP and IMAP), one not encrypted and available to your local network as specified in tcpserver's rules files, and the other encrypted and available to anyone. You could also bind them to separate interfaces; but I also recommend using tcpserver in more or less of the same manner, it's considered quite secure. As far as what packages to run for the encryption, I wouldn't be of any explicit help there considering I haven't ever attempted at doing so myself. =) -- Nick (Keith) Fish Network Engineer Triton Technologies, Inc.
Re: POP/IMAP server - more NEWBIE
Stephen Froehlich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, I'd like to also gather some opinions on how best to implement POP > and/or IMAP. > > Here are my requirements: > > In the immediate present, I just need to allow the local network to access. > In the near future, I'll need to allow encrypted remote access. (Encrypted > only.) I have a few, relatively trusted users. How would you go about > meeting those requirements? qmail includes qmail-pop3d, a POP3 daemon. Many people use Courier IMAP for IMAP access. If you want to encrypt POP3 in the future, you should be able to either tunnel over an SSH session, or use stunnel to do it over SSL. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
IMAP benchmarks
I haven't seen it mentioned here, but Sam Varshavchik (Courier's author) benchmarked UW-IMAP and Courier-IMAP: http://www.courier-mta.org/mbox-vs-maildir/ This pretty much debunks the claims that maildirs don't scale. -Dave
POP/IMAP server - more NEWBIE
OK, I'd like to also gather some opinions on how best to implement POP and/or IMAP. Here are my requirements: In the immediate present, I just need to allow the local network to access. In the near future, I'll need to allow encrypted remote access. (Encrypted only.) I have a few, relatively trusted users. How would you go about meeting those requirements?
Re: qmail-popbull used w/ imap
I had bulletins on my site, I simply create a shell script that hardlink the bulletin into the ~/Maildir/new of all users! On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Russell Nelson wrote: > Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:16:10 -0400 (EDT) > From: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: qmail-popbull used w/ imap > > michael writes: > > This question I suppose is directed at Russell since he is the > > writer of qmail-popbull... > > > > We're trying to get courier-imap running and the desire is to > > also have bulletin ability. Since qmail-popbull is called as > > part of tcpserver startup for qmail I'm hoping it can be > > inserted into the startup string for imap. Can anyone think > > of a reason why it wouldn't be able to be done? I'd check > > it out now, but am still working on getting checkpassword > > converted for use w/ courier-imap since it appears to need > > a few extra environment variables set. I'd rather not have > > to add that functionality into a new piece of code. > > Won't work, because Mr. Sam chose not to use checkpassword for > courier-imap. qmail-popbull requires the use of checkpassword. > > -- > -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com > Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Microsoft rivets everything. > 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | Linux has some loose screws. > Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | You own a screwdriver. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Antonio S. Martins Jr. - System Analist | "Only The Shadow Knows | | WorldNet Internet Maringa - PR - Brasil | what evil lurks in the | | E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Heart of Men!" | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | !!! Linux User: 52392 !!! | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ This e-mail message is 100% Microsoft free! /"\ \ / CAMPANHA DA FITA ASCII - CONTRA MAIL HTML X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \
RE: qmail-popbull used w/ imap
Scott, you rock! I was just feeling good about myself because I figured out what imaplogin was passing along and was munging checkpassword to account for the slightly different file descriptor 3. Then would have been the fun of figuring out what imapd needed. It never hurts to really look close at code, though. Thanks so much for the follow up and to Russell I'll thank again for the popbull code. 8^) -- Michael Boyiazis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail Architect, NetZero, Inc. > -Original Message- > From: Scott Gifford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 9:26 AM > To: michael > Cc: Russell Nelson; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: qmail-popbull used w/ imap > > > Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > michael writes: > > > This question I suppose is directed at Russell since he is the > > > writer of qmail-popbull... > > > > > > We're trying to get courier-imap running and the desire is to > > > also have bulletin ability. Since qmail-popbull is called as > > > part of tcpserver startup for qmail I'm hoping it can be > > > inserted into the startup string for imap. Can anyone think > > > of a reason why it wouldn't be able to be done? I'd check > > > it out now, but am still working on getting checkpassword > > > converted for use w/ courier-imap since it appears to need > > > a few extra environment variables set. I'd rather not have > > > to add that functionality into a new piece of code. > > > > Won't work, because Mr. Sam chose not to use checkpassword for > > courier-imap. qmail-popbull requires the use of checkpassword. > > Here's the configuration I use to make courier-imap use checkpassword > and qmail-popbull: > http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/2000/04/msg01189.html Good luck, ScottG.
Re: qmail-popbull used w/ imap
Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > michael writes: > > This question I suppose is directed at Russell since he is the > > writer of qmail-popbull... > > > > We're trying to get courier-imap running and the desire is to > > also have bulletin ability. Since qmail-popbull is called as > > part of tcpserver startup for qmail I'm hoping it can be > > inserted into the startup string for imap. Can anyone think > > of a reason why it wouldn't be able to be done? I'd check > > it out now, but am still working on getting checkpassword > > converted for use w/ courier-imap since it appears to need > > a few extra environment variables set. I'd rather not have > > to add that functionality into a new piece of code. > > Won't work, because Mr. Sam chose not to use checkpassword for > courier-imap. qmail-popbull requires the use of checkpassword. Here's the configuration I use to make courier-imap use checkpassword and qmail-popbull: http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/2000/04/msg01189.html Good luck, ScottG.
Re: qmail-popbull used w/ imap
michael writes: > This question I suppose is directed at Russell since he is the > writer of qmail-popbull... > > We're trying to get courier-imap running and the desire is to > also have bulletin ability. Since qmail-popbull is called as > part of tcpserver startup for qmail I'm hoping it can be > inserted into the startup string for imap. Can anyone think > of a reason why it wouldn't be able to be done? I'd check > it out now, but am still working on getting checkpassword > converted for use w/ courier-imap since it appears to need > a few extra environment variables set. I'd rather not have > to add that functionality into a new piece of code. Won't work, because Mr. Sam chose not to use checkpassword for courier-imap. qmail-popbull requires the use of checkpassword. -- -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Microsoft rivets everything. 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | Linux has some loose screws. Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | You own a screwdriver.
qmail-popbull used w/ imap
This question I suppose is directed at Russell since he is the writer of qmail-popbull... We're trying to get courier-imap running and the desire is to also have bulletin ability. Since qmail-popbull is called as part of tcpserver startup for qmail I'm hoping it can be inserted into the startup string for imap. Can anyone think of a reason why it wouldn't be able to be done? I'd check it out now, but am still working on getting checkpassword converted for use w/ courier-imap since it appears to need a few extra environment variables set. I'd rather not have to add that functionality into a new piece of code. Thanks, -- Michael Boyiazis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail Architect, NetZero, Inc.
Qmail & courier Imap.....
Hello. Maybe this is not the correct place for this question but. I am trying to install the qmail and with the courier imap server.I think qmail is running and is set up corectly but about courier imap dont know much>anybody knows how i can check whether it run or no.I have Redhat 7.0 _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: [Fwd: Re: slow server (qmail + imap + tcpserver)]
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 04:04:06PM +0200, MERCHE TOMAS wrote: > > > > On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 01:33:18PM +0200, MERCHE TOMAS wrote: > > we have an imap server with qmail and tcpserver. We've been looking for > > an answer for months, but we cannot find where is the problem. The > > tcpserver concurrency is 500. We're only 60 users. Sometimes, when there > > are about 40 users connected to the server it becomes so slow that > > nobody can access to their folders. When the number of connections goes > > down then every thing goes ok again. I don't know if the problem is with > > qmail, tcpserver or imap, but i think that it's with imap. If any of you > > can give me an idea.. > > It's most probably the imap server -- try asking them... > By the way, which imap server is it?? > > Jörgen > > > > IMAP4rev1 2000.283rh No idea... look in the changelog for the latest version (2000c Final) or ask their mailing list[1]. Jörgen [1] http://www.washington.edu/imap/imap-list.html
Re: slow server (qmail + imap + tcpserver)
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 01:33:18PM +0200, MERCHE TOMAS wrote: > we have an imap server with qmail and tcpserver. We've been looking for > an answer for months, but we cannot find where is the problem. The > tcpserver concurrency is 500. We're only 60 users. Sometimes, when there > are about 40 users connected to the server it becomes so slow that > nobody can access to their folders. When the number of connections goes > down then every thing goes ok again. I don't know if the problem is with > qmail, tcpserver or imap, but i think that it's with imap. If any of you > can give me an idea.. It's most probably the imap server -- try asking them... By the way, which imap server is it?? Jörgen
slow server (qmail + imap + tcpserver)
Hello, we have an imap server with qmail and tcpserver. We've been looking for an answer for months, but we cannot find where is the problem. The tcpserver concurrency is 500. We're only 60 users. Sometimes, when there are about 40 users connected to the server it becomes so slow that nobody can access to their folders. When the number of connections goes down then every thing goes ok again. I don't know if the problem is with qmail, tcpserver or imap, but i think that it's with imap. If any of you can give me an idea.. Thanks for your help PD- excuse me if there is any strange expression, English is not my primary language.
Qmail, IMAP, POP, OpenLDAP, PAM
Hi, I'm thinking about putting together a complete email system composed of the following items Qmail, IMAP, POP, OpenLDAP, and PAM. ie all components should check against OpenLDAP for authentication. Any words of wisdom? I can use some help with the PAM. I also am thinking about Maildir for Qmail, would I have to patch IMAP and POP to work with this? Also, if Maildir is used, would I risk running out of inodes before space on my file system? If so, any techniques in better designing the file system. For example how about breaking the disk to 1Gig file systems and block size of 1024 to reduce wasting disk space. Also, given Linux 2.4.x, is there any way to implement a faster raid5, ie the write should return as soon as the first mirror is done (not both) and the read would come from the first mirror (any of them). Thanks -- === Medi Montaseri, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 408-450-7114 Prepass Inc, IT/Operations, Software Eng. ===
Re: Which IMAP do you prefer with qmail?
I appreciated hearing from you about Courier. I'm going to start out with Courier. Wish me luck! I have a big job ahead of me with installing qmail, courier, ldap, etc. By the way, your http://my.gnus.org website is very impressive. >From: "Robin S. Socha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Which IMAP do you prefer with qmail? >Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 16:47:29 -0400 > >* q question <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010429 16:38]: > >Your parents must hate you. > > > I'm curious, not to really try to create a survey, but of those of you >on > > this list using qmail with IMAP, which IMAP are you using? > >Courier - what else? Cyrus is nice but uses proprietary formats noone >really needs and UW IMAP is brought to you by the security Gods that >brohgt you pine. Mbwhahaha... http://mail.socha.net/about/ for a setup >that makes me and my users equally happy. >-- >Robin S. Socha >http://my.gnus.org/ - To boldly frobnicate what no newbie has grokked >before. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: Which IMAP do you prefer with qmail?
* q question <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010429 16:38]: Your parents must hate you. > I'm curious, not to really try to create a survey, but of those of you on > this list using qmail with IMAP, which IMAP are you using? Courier - what else? Cyrus is nice but uses proprietary formats noone really needs and UW IMAP is brought to you by the security Gods that brohgt you pine. Mbwhahaha... http://mail.socha.net/about/ for a setup that makes me and my users equally happy. -- Robin S. Socha http://my.gnus.org/ - To boldly frobnicate what no newbie has grokked before.
Which IMAP do you prefer with qmail?
I'm curious, not to really try to create a survey, but of those of you on this list using qmail with IMAP, which IMAP are you using? Thanks in advance! _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: Cyrus IMAP newbie
Kieran, Henning, and Joerg, I want to express my appreciation for your replies to my three posts last night. It was late and I apologize for not organizing my thoughts into one single post. I was so tangled up that I needed to just get my questions out any which way. I'm still trying to come up with a game plan before I start installing. My goal is to use IMAP so that I can store email on the server for webmail clients. At this point I have not settled on a IMAP solution or my webmail interface. I think I will use PHP/IMAP for the webmail interface. I'm going to keep looking at Courier IMAP today. I don't think I've found a direct comparison of Courier vs Cyrus, although I have several articles comparing Cyrus to UW. Regardless, thanks again for helping me to understand the virtual domain and virtual user situation. I'll post again when I've sorted myself out! _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: Cyrus IMAP newbie
question question: > I'm going through all of the qmail/djbdns/etc. archives, but it is slow > going. > I've used sendmail/DNS/BIND on various unix boxes for years and am > absolutely sick of them. > I would like to use qmail and Cyrus IMAP and djbdns, etc. on a single Redhat > 7.0 server that has 8 IP addresses for 8 virtual websites. > I've printed off reams of the documentation from D. J. Bernstein's website > about qmail, tcpserver, djbdns, ucspi-tcp, daemontools, etc. > My initial understanding was that qmail was a straight MTA replacement for > sendmail so that I would be able to use Cyrus Imap. The Cyrus Imap is not > supposed to require Unix accounts/homedirectories, so it scales for a larger > number of webmail clients. > In my reading of the Cyrus IMAP website, it only refers to postfix. I saw > the sendmail/postfix April fool's joke, and it was quite funny. > However, why do I not see any info about using qmail with either UW or Cyrus > IMAP? Or am I missing something obvious? Qmail is indeed a drop-in replacement for Sendmail and can therefore be used with Cyrus. The key is the interface to get the mail into the Cyrus mailboxes. You have to invoke /usr/cyrus/bin/deliver on the message in a suitable .qmail file. Here is a very simple possible setup, just to get you started. In /var/qmail/user/assign there is a list of email adresses of your users plus delivery instructions. Note that these users do not actually have to exist as Unix accounts, even though you need to have some form of authentication, so that they can get into their mailboxes: =firstname1.lastname1:user1:96:12:/var/qmail/alias/delivery:-:userfolder: =firstname2.lastname2:user2:96:12:/var/qmail/alias/delivery:-:userfolder: =firstname3.lastname3:user3:96:12:/var/qmail/alias/delivery:-:userfolder: . firstname1.lastname1 is the email adress of the first user and user1 is the name of the Cyrus mailbox of that user. They cannot be the same, since Cyrus mailboxes must not contain dots. 96 is the userid of the Cyrus user an 12 the id of the group mail. You need to compile that file into hashtable format with qmail-newu. Check out qmail virtual domain support on how you could adapt this scheme for virtual domains. The directory /var/qmail/alias/delivery directory contains just one file, .qmail-userfolder, with the single line |/usr/cyrus/bin/deliver $USER || exit 111 That will either successfully deliver into the Mailbox of $USER (which would be set to "user1" by qmail for the first example user) or temporarily fail (with whatever reason /usr/cyrus/bin/deliver gives). Qmail would retry delivery later on, for up to a week. In a production enviroment you would probably want to refine this for various exit conditions of deliver, some should probably cause the mail to be rejected on first try. Try man qmail-command for the various things that can be done in a .qmail file. Feel free to mail me for further questions. PS: Does your Webmail interface have a Imap backend? That is what you would need to get into the Cyrus mailboxes to actually access the mail after delivery. -- Joerg Lenneis email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cyrus IMAP newbie - LDAP?
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 12:57:31AM -0500, question question wrote: > I don't see any documentation in the Life with Qmail/Ldap about virtual > domains, although I do see info about virtual users. You don't need virtual domains on qmail-ldap (although they exist), you just have users with one ore more mail addresses in one or more domains. -- Henning Brauer | BS Web Services Hostmaster BSWS| Roedingsmarkt 14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 20459 Hamburg http://www.bsws.de | Germany Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie)
Re: Cyrus IMAP newbie - LDAP?
I guess qmail-LDAP will eliminate the need to have user accounts/home directories for the webmail users. I don't see any documentation in the Life with Qmail/Ldap about virtual domains, although I do see info about virtual users. I guess VMailMgr (with Qmail/LDAP) will allow me to set up virtual domains on the same machine? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Cyrus IMAP newbie - more questions
Actually, I submitted my prior email too quickly. I have also found the info about Courier IMAP/VMailMgr, and the omail info as well. It seems to me that MailDirs still require a login account/home directory for each webmail user. Please correct me if I am wrong. Please advise. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Cyrus IMAP newbie
I'm going through all of the qmail/djbdns/etc. archives, but it is slow going. I've used sendmail/DNS/BIND on various unix boxes for years and am absolutely sick of them. I would like to use qmail and Cyrus IMAP and djbdns, etc. on a single Redhat 7.0 server that has 8 IP addresses for 8 virtual websites. I've printed off reams of the documentation from D. J. Bernstein's website about qmail, tcpserver, djbdns, ucspi-tcp, daemontools, etc. My initial understanding was that qmail was a straight MTA replacement for sendmail so that I would be able to use Cyrus Imap. The Cyrus Imap is not supposed to require Unix accounts/homedirectories, so it scales for a larger number of webmail clients. In my reading of the Cyrus IMAP website, it only refers to postfix. I saw the sendmail/postfix April fool's joke, and it was quite funny. However, why do I not see any info about using qmail with either UW or Cyrus IMAP? Or am I missing something obvious? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Compressed Maildir + IMAP
Hello, Just a small problem, Not directly related with qmail . I would like to know whether I can keep Mail files in maildir in compressed format. I Subscribe to a lot of technical High Volume mailing list (Qmail been one) And would like the lists to be shared by other users. IMAP is but the obvious choice. It also a fact that as these emails are plain text they give extreme high compression ratios. There is some patch available for qmail that does compression/decompression on the fly but this works only with POP. And that still means every one has to download the mails on his / her machine. So one can realize the obvious advantages of using Compression with IMAP. Does any one know of or has tried something similiar ??? Does Courier-IMAP support any such thing ?? Any help or references will be highly appreciated. Thanx & Regards Mustafa M VeetVision Communications (P) Ltd. Bungalow RH-3, Moghul Gardens, 411001 Pune, India Tel. 91-20-6113056, 6051597, 6051598 / Fax 91-20-6050652
Compressed Maildir + IMAP
Hello, Just a small problem, Not directly related with qmail . I would like to know whether I can keep Mail files in maildir in compressed format. I Subscribe to a lot of technical High Volume mailing list (Qmail been one) And would like the lists to be shared by other users. IMAP is but the obvious choice. It also a fact that as these emails are plain text they give extreme high compression ratios. There is some patch available for qmail that does compression/decompression on the fly but this works only with POP. And that still means every one has to download the mails on his / her machine. So one can realize the obvious advantages of using Compression with IMAP. Does any one know of or has tried something similiar ??? Does Courier-IMAP support any such thing ?? Any help or references will be highly appreciated. Thanx & Regards Mustafa M VeetVision Communications (P) Ltd. Bungalow RH-3, Moghul Gardens, 411001 Pune, India Tel. 91-20-6113056, 6051597, 6051598 / Fax 91-20-6050652
pine + courier-imap
excuse me for question too particular!!!
I have a problem with PINE version <4.00
How can I see the all folders created on the server ?? With the PINE versions >4.00
it's possible with CollectionList option but with version <4 it'is impossible for me
I have tried (without success) with "folder-collection" option (in setup) specifying
{server-imap-name}inbox[] or {server-imap-name}Maildir/[] or {server-imap-name}/[] and
so on...
I have downloaded from internet many manual written by System Managers of American
Universities for PINE configuration but I haven't found the solution!!
Where is the solution or is there the solution ?? thanks.
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Re: IMAP Server Problem
Anselmo Daniel Adams wrote: > > Hi, > > I use imap-4.7 on my server. Sometimes the server gives to me wrong > arrival dates for all messages. Anyone can help me? > > Anselmo Daniel Adams This is usually caused by system times set wrong on computers somewhere along the route of the e-mail. -- Keith Network Engineer Triton Technologies, Inc.
IMAP Server Problem
Hi, I use imap-4.7 on my server. Sometimes the server gives to me wrong arrival dates for all messages. Anyone can help me? Anselmo Daniel Adams
Re: imap and Maildir
yes I did.. my imapd recognize Maildir - Original Message - From: "David Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 3:10 AM Subject: Re: imap and Maildir > Did you install the UW Maildir patch? > > > From: "alexus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 02:55:43 -0400 > > To: "David Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: imap and Maildir > > > > the one that comes with pine package.. i'd assume uw-imapd > > > > bash-2.04$ telnet 0 143 > > Trying 0.0.0.0... > > Connected to 0. > > Escape character is '^]'. > > * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4REV1 LOGIN-REFERRALS AUTH=LOGIN] box.alexus.org > > IMAP4rev1 2000.287 at Mon, 2 Apr 2001 01:52:35 -0500 (EST) > > > > if that's helps... > > - Original Message - > > From: "David Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 2:25 AM > > Subject: Re: imap and Maildir > > > > > >> What IMAP server? > >> > >>> From: "alexus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 02:07:44 -0400 > >>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> Subject: imap and Maildir > >>> > >>> i start using qmail and I'm using Maildir > >>> > >>> i was able to make my imap to understand Maildir > >>> > >>> now i need imap to recognize Maildir as a inbox instead of seperate > > folder > >>> Maildir > >>> > >>> can someone help me here? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > >
Re: imap and Maildir
Did you install the UW Maildir patch? > From: "alexus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 02:55:43 -0400 > To: "David Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: imap and Maildir > > the one that comes with pine package.. i'd assume uw-imapd > > bash-2.04$ telnet 0 143 > Trying 0.0.0.0... > Connected to 0. > Escape character is '^]'. > * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4REV1 LOGIN-REFERRALS AUTH=LOGIN] box.alexus.org > IMAP4rev1 2000.287 at Mon, 2 Apr 2001 01:52:35 -0500 (EST) > > if that's helps... > - Original Message - > From: "David Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 2:25 AM > Subject: Re: imap and Maildir > > >> What IMAP server? >> >>> From: "alexus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 02:07:44 -0400 >>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Subject: imap and Maildir >>> >>> i start using qmail and I'm using Maildir >>> >>> i was able to make my imap to understand Maildir >>> >>> now i need imap to recognize Maildir as a inbox instead of seperate > folder >>> Maildir >>> >>> can someone help me here? >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
Re: imap and Maildir
the one that comes with pine package.. i'd assume uw-imapd bash-2.04$ telnet 0 143 Trying 0.0.0.0... Connected to 0. Escape character is '^]'. * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4REV1 LOGIN-REFERRALS AUTH=LOGIN] box.alexus.org IMAP4rev1 2000.287 at Mon, 2 Apr 2001 01:52:35 -0500 (EST) if that's helps... - Original Message - From: "David Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 2:25 AM Subject: Re: imap and Maildir > What IMAP server? > > > From: "alexus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 02:07:44 -0400 > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: imap and Maildir > > > > i start using qmail and I'm using Maildir > > > > i was able to make my imap to understand Maildir > > > > now i need imap to recognize Maildir as a inbox instead of seperate folder > > Maildir > > > > can someone help me here? > > > > > > > >
Re: imap and Maildir
What IMAP server? > From: "alexus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 02:07:44 -0400 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: imap and Maildir > > i start using qmail and I'm using Maildir > > i was able to make my imap to understand Maildir > > now i need imap to recognize Maildir as a inbox instead of seperate folder > Maildir > > can someone help me here? > > >
imap and Maildir
i start using qmail and I'm using Maildir i was able to make my imap to understand Maildir now i need imap to recognize Maildir as a inbox instead of seperate folder Maildir can someone help me here?
courier-imap
Dear all,I install the courier-imap and no error when installI can receive the mail but can't send outif I use pop3 the server can send out email ,if I use imap the server can'tsend out email, can someone tell me what is problemregardsedward
Re: qmail and IMAP and checkpassword
Whoops, I didn't include my reply in last message. You probably should subscribe to the courier email list and send the question there. Its very active. Go to http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users to subscribe. I do know that courier has a very extensive authentication scheme (I estimate that half its documentation deals with authentication) with lots of choices, and will go through pam if you compile it that way. The fact that you can get it to go through pam may answer your question right there. === Al --- Michael Boyiazis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, >We're need a IMAP product that uses Maildir's and we'd like to > authenticate using our own hacked checkpassword. > > I've read in the archives that courier-imap uses Maildirs, but can it > use checkpassword for authentication or will I need something > like that mentioned below and wrap checkpassword with some perl > scripts? > > http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/2000/04/msg01189.html > > > Thanks, > > Mike. > __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text
Re: qmail and IMAP and checkpassword
You probably should subscribe to the courier email list and send the question there. Its very active. Go to http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users to subscribe. I do know that courier has a very extensive authentication scheme (I estimate that half its documentation deals with authentication) with lots of choices, and will go through pam if you compile it that way. The fact that you can get it to go through pam may answer your question right there. === Al --- Michael Boyiazis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, >We're need a IMAP product that uses Maildir's and we'd like to > authenticate using our own hacked checkpassword. > > I've read in the archives that courier-imap uses Maildirs, but can it > use checkpassword for authentication or will I need something > like that mentioned below and wrap checkpassword with some perl > scripts? > > http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/2000/04/msg01189.html > > > Thanks, > > Mike. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text
Re: qmail and IMAP and checkpassword
--- Michael Boyiazis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, >We're need a IMAP product that uses Maildir's and we'd like to > authenticate using our own hacked checkpassword. > > I've read in the archives that courier-imap uses Maildirs, but can it > use checkpassword for authentication or will I need something > like that mentioned below and wrap checkpassword with some perl > scripts? > > http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/2000/04/msg01189.html > > > Thanks, > > Mike. > __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text
qmail and IMAP and checkpassword
Hi, We're need a IMAP product that uses Maildir's and we'd like to authenticate using our own hacked checkpassword. I've read in the archives that courier-imap uses Maildirs, but can it use checkpassword for authentication or will I need something like that mentioned below and wrap checkpassword with some perl scripts? http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/2000/04/msg01189.html Thanks, Mike.
Re: Syncing IMAP mailboxes
Gavin Cameron wrote: > > Hi, > > Anybody out there know of a tool that will allow me to sync an IMAP mailbox > that contains about 25 additional IMAP folders apart from the INBOX??? > > I've tried isync but that will only do one folder at a time. I'd like a tool > that I can point to my INBOX and from there let it sync everything. > > Thanks in advance, > Gavin - Fetchmail, pay close attention to the switches to leave the mail on the server. - Netscape Messenger - Outlook Express - Eudora Mike
qmail & imap
Hello, I'm looking for some imap server supporting Maildirs. I found links to Courier-IMAP, imap-2000, ... on qmail homepage. The best looking one to me is Courier IMAP as it offers modular authentication (including vpopmail's vchkpw which I use). I'd like to have it supporting tcpserver (from daemontools). I found a note in Courier IMAP docs how to do it, so maybe I'll be able to make it working. Anyway I'd like to know if someone uses Courier IMAP with qmail (installed from qmail+patches.rpms by Bruce Guenter) and vpopmail. * What pop3d to use? The one from qmail or the one from Courier IMAP? Some comparation? * Which auth. module to use? authvchkpw which supports existing cdb files from qmail/vpopmail or authuserdb from Courier IMAP? Courier IMAP pages recommend to convert vchkpw to userdb, why? Is there some performace decrease/increase? Please let me know if I can expect some difficulities when using Courier IMAP with qmail/vpopmail, and how to make it working as fast and as easily as possible. Some hints are welcome. Regards, Edas
Syncing IMAP mailboxes
Hi, Anybody out there know of a tool that will allow me to sync an IMAP mailbox that contains about 25 additional IMAP folders apart from the INBOX??? I've tried isync but that will only do one folder at a time. I'd like a tool that I can point to my INBOX and from there let it sync everything. Thanks in advance, Gavin
Problems Authenticating with IMAP
Hello all: First, please let me know if I have not included enough information or am posting inappropriately. I belive I have followed the install instructions in each package and have researched thisproblem, but I just don't know enough about these packages to figure it out. I am running Qmail 1.03 using a RedHat 6.2 system. I have 2 virtual domains setup through the VPopMail add-on from Inter7, the server accepts new email for my recipitents and outgoing SMTP works. I then compiled Courier-Imap, it is using the default AUTHMODULES. It starts both the POP and IMAP server from my Qmail script perfectly, I don't see any errors (but perhaps I am not looking in the right place). What is the best way to go about figuring out where my problem is? I have checked the logs, the most helpful thing I could find is from the maillog which shows: Mar 2 01:53:46 eunomia imaplogin: Connection, ip=[:::24.177.136.195] Mar 2 01:53:53 eunomia imaplogin: LOGIN FAILED, ip=[:::24.177.136.195] Mar 2 01:54:01 eunomia imaplogin: LOGIN FAILED, ip=[:::24.177.136.195] Mar 2 01:54:01 eunomia imaplogin: LOGOUT, ip=[:::24.177.136.195] Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, if you need any more info or details, let me know. Matt Simonsen
Re: NestcapeMessenger=>IMAP Server
You can get a copy of openssl from openssl.org. You need to install this serverside.You will find that it is a fairly painless install. There are several IMAP servers out there. Inter7 has links to Courier I think and there are links on the qmail page. - Original Message - From: "Massimo Quintini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 3:05 AM Subject: NestcapeMessenger=>IMAP Server > THE FACT: I have many clients con NetscapeMessenger like MUA and one > server with QMail with IMAP Server > > TARGET: I want establish a secure connection (with SSL?) from MUAs and > MTA (through IMAP protocol ) > > QUESTIONs: > a) Must I install SSL server-side ? > b) Is SSL code included in Netscape package (v4.72) ??? > c) where can I look for the instrucions (step-by-step) for > installing SSL for IMAP (certficate creation, ect. ) ??? > > Thanks. Massimo QUINTINI > > == > = Massimo Quintini = > = Osservatorio Astronomico Collurania Teramo (O.A.C.T.) = > = Via Mentore Maggini s.n.c. = > = 64100 - TERAMO - (Italy) = > = Telefono: 39-0861.210490 = > = Fax: 39-0861.210492 = > = http://www.te.astro.it = > == > > >
NestcapeMessenger=>IMAP Server
THE FACT: I have many clients con NetscapeMessenger like MUA and one server with QMail with IMAP Server TARGET: I want establish a secure connection (with SSL?) from MUAs and MTA (through IMAP protocol ) QUESTIONs: a) Must I install SSL server-side ? b) Is SSL code included in Netscape package (v4.72) ??? c) where can I look for the instrucions (step-by-step) for installing SSL for IMAP (certficate creation, ect. ) ??? Thanks. Massimo QUINTINI == = Massimo Quintini = = Osservatorio Astronomico Collurania Teramo (O.A.C.T.) = = Via Mentore Maggini s.n.c. = = 64100 - TERAMO - (Italy) = = Telefono: 39-0861.210490 = = Fax: 39-0861.210492 = = http://www.te.astro.it = ==
New Patch for Latest UW IMAP server
Hi, I have modified all the patches David Harris had to create an uber-patch for the latest UW IMAP server. This means you can have a secure IMAP and POP server that does only Maildirs, without some of the problems I have been experiencing using Courier with clients like Eudora. link is http://www.greboguru.org/qmail/ Cheers Herbie
Re: New Patch for Latest UW IMAP server
What problems do you have using Courier with Eudora? I use it daily with zero problems. - Original Message - From: "Herbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Qmail Users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 2:41 AM Subject: New Patch for Latest UW IMAP server > Hi, > I have modified all the patches David Harris had to create an > uber-patch for the latest UW IMAP server. > > This means you can have a secure IMAP and POP server that does only > Maildirs, without some of the problems I have been experiencing using > Courier with clients like Eudora. > > link is http://www.greboguru.org/qmail/ > > Cheers > > Herbie > >
Courier Problems was UW IMAP Patch
Like Mike said, if you have a lot of client side filters Eudora will thrash you Courier IMAP server bad. If you want to see why switch on debugging in Courier IMAP, it seems that Eudora pulls all messages that match the filter, and it goes through each filter in turn, it also does some wierd UID requesting. Courier hates it the system load goes astronomical at these points. Mike, try the UW IMAP watch these problems dissappear, though I could not tell you why. Herbie PS I am not subscribed to this list anymore I just check the web digest a couple of times a day, so I am not able to respond to any message personally, as your e-mail address does not appear in the digest.
Re: New Patch for Latest UW IMAP server
Tim Hunter wrote: > > What problems do you have using Courier with Eudora? I use it daily with > zero problems. > > - Original Message - > From: "Herbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Qmail Users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 2:41 AM > Subject: New Patch for Latest UW IMAP server > > > Hi, > > I have modified all the patches David Harris had to create an > > uber-patch for the latest UW IMAP server. > > > > This means you can have a secure IMAP and POP server that does only > > Maildirs, without some of the problems I have been experiencing using > > Courier with clients like Eudora. > > > > link is http://www.greboguru.org/qmail/ > > > > Cheers > > > > Herbie I have several users that have problems using Eudora with Courier. The problems seem to surface when they have client side filters and more than ~300 new messages in their inbox. It takes very long to filter, I don't know why. Still, I would prefer to stay with Courier because UW is a memory/resource HAWG if you have many IMAP connections. Mike
Re: qmail-ldap and courier-imap & authentication ?
dennis wrote: > Hi all.. > > Can anyone suggest an authentication scheme for courier-imap when using > qmail-ldap ? obviously you will use ldap for authentication because password should be same for pop-3 and imap , isnt it ? > > > How should I compile authentication into ciourier if qmail-ldap is going to > handle authentication via ldap ? > you just have to install openldap SDK on the same mechine on which you are planning to install courier-imap , and run ./configure make , make install it will get compiled with ldap authentication support , if not , then you may have to edit some paths in makefile of courier-imap > > Dennis
Re: remote/roaming pop/imap users - sending email?
SNFettig Listserv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The issue for me, however, is that I need to allow relaying for mobile users > dialing into the internet from national ISPs, thus usually ending up with > different IPs each time they dial in.) As someone else noted, the proper setup is for your roaming users to send their mail through the SMTP relay provided by the ISP they are using. However, failing that, you can use a SMTP-after-POP solution. Check www.qmail.org for pointers to these, especially Bruce Guenter's relay-ctrl. As a secondary note, this is one of the top FAQs, is documented in Dan's FAQ, mentioned at qmail.org, and shows up on the mailing list vritually every week -- including at least twice this week. A quick search of the qmail list archives would have turned up this same advice. Oh, and while I'm being negative, please try to limit your line length -- it's a bit of a pain to quote from your original email, because it contained 300+ character lines. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
RE: remote/roaming pop/imap users - sending email?
Title: RE: remote/roaming pop/imap users - sending email? unsubscribe
Re: remote/roaming pop/imap users - sending email?
> up with different IPs each time they dial in.) > >The solution is simple, and often overlooked, and often asked on this >list. Maybe somebody should write a "Life with email" document ;-) > >If they have dialin access through a "national ISP" then that ISP most >certainly has a relaying SMTP server that they can designate in their MUA >as their SMTP server. There is no reason on earth that they should have >to relay back through the home office server, unless their ISP sucks. > >You do _NOT_ have to send outgoing mail through the machine that is your >_INCOMING_ mail server! > Pete, Although I agree with your comments with regards to most of the clients (AT&T Worldnet, for example, won't let you send through an SMTP server other than theirs...), the clincher is the fact that (what I so apparently left out...) for two of the domains in question the server is providing "mailhosting" for clients of mine (and it will probably grow to more). In other words, these clients will always be roaming/remote. So, I still need some way to authenticate these people so they can use the server as a "relay" server. SF
Re: remote/roaming pop/imap users - sending email?
>The issue for me, however, is that I need to allow relaying for mobile >users dialing into the internet from national ISPs, thus usually ending > up with different IPs each time they dial in.) The solution is simple, and often overlooked, and often asked on this list. Maybe somebody should write a "Life with email" document ;-) If they have dialin access through a "national ISP" then that ISP most certainly has a relaying SMTP server that they can designate in their MUA as their SMTP server. There is no reason on earth that they should have to relay back through the home office server, unless their ISP sucks. You do _NOT_ have to send outgoing mail through the machine that is your _INCOMING_ mail server! OK, there may be some clues in the mail header that the email was not sent from the home office, but who cares? These people are on the road! If they know how to configure a MUA than the return address will look OK and nobody will care or notice. --Pete
remote/roaming pop/imap users - sending email?
Perhaps I misunderstand the description of blocking relaying as described in LWQ, so please bear with my question. (I'm reading: "Most single-user and small workgroup servers can disable relaying completely, but if you have to support a distributed user community, you'll need a way to allow your users, and only your users, to use your system as a relay. This is accomplished by using tcpserver to set the RELAYCLIENT environment variable, which tells qmail-smtpd to override the rcpthosts file. If you follow the installation instructions in this document, selective relaying will be enabled by default. To give a client relay access, add an entry to /etc/tcp.smtp like: IP address of client:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" and if I understand this correctly, if I know the IP of my clients, then I can allow them to relay messages without a problem. The issue for me, however, is that I need to allow relaying for mobile users dialing into the internet from national ISPs, thus usually ending up with different IPs each time they dial in.) I am setting up my server (FreeBSD 4.0, qmail-1.03, etc) to host a number of domains of which all of the users will be accessing their accounts via pop3 remotely. I want them to be able to authenticate, get mail or authenticate, send mail - i.e. as long as the person has authenticated, they can send mail to users other than on the host. The server is set up with mail going to a Maildir and already works for receiving mail from external domains. I already tried to deal with this with vmailmgr, but ran into roadblocks that go way beyond my ability to solve them - I couldn't get many of the necessary services for vmailmgr to work, and I was successful with simply using checkpassword. So, while I am finishing up the work on the server, could anyone give me some tips or point me in the direction of documentation that could help me in setting up such a service? I am specifically looking for information on pop access for remote/roaming users. Thanks, SF
Re: Compile error Courier-imap
The Afif wrote: > I have some probelm when I compile courier-imap... Try the courier mailing list, available for subscription at http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users. This is off-topic for qmail. ---Kris Kelley
Re: qmail-ldap and courier-imap & authentication ?
On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 10:45:20AM +1100, dennis wrote: > Hi all.. > Can anyone suggest an authentication scheme for courier-imap when using > qmail-ldap ? > How should I compile authentication into ciourier if qmail-ldap is going to > handle authentication via ldap ? You are on the wrong list, courier imap has its own list. qmail-ldap has its own list too, but this isn't the right one too ;-)) Either use courier-imap's authdeamon against ldap (documented in README or so) or start it like qpop3d under tcpserver, s/t like tcpserver auth_imap imapd Maildir Of couse you need to add pathes and options. This isn't documented anywhere yet. -- Henning Brauer | BS Web Services Hostmaster BSWS| Roedingsmarkt 14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 20459 Hamburg http://www.bsws.de | Germany
Re: Compile error Courier-imap
your OS is solaris ? - Original Message - From: "The Afif" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 2:08 PM Subject: Compile error Courier-imap > Dear Miliser, > > I have some probelm when I compile courier-imap, the error message > when I compile is like this > [afif@dodol courier-imap-1.3.3]$ ./configure > > checking whether the C++ compiler (gcc ) works... no > configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot cre > ate executables. > configure: error: ./configure failed for bdbobj > > need your solution pls > > Tks & regards, > The Afif > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Compile error Courier-imap
Dear Miliser, I have some probelm when I compile courier-imap, the error message when I compile is like this [afif@dodol courier-imap-1.3.3]$ ./configure checking whether the C++ compiler (gcc ) works... no configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot cre ate executables. configure: error: ./configure failed for bdbobj need your solution pls Tks & regards, The Afif mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
qmail-ldap and courier-imap & authentication ?
Hi all.. Can anyone suggest an authentication scheme for courier-imap when using qmail-ldap ? How should I compile authentication into ciourier if qmail-ldap is going to handle authentication via ldap ? Dennis
Re: Roaming users and Courier IMAP
On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 11:30:25PM +1100, Gavin Cameron wrote: > Hi all, > > I currently have my system setup so that roaming users can use smtp after > POP3 to relay through the mail server. > > We would also like to allow roaming IMAP server to use the server for > relaying. Does anyone have a small program/script that I can slot into > couriertcpd that will update smtpd's tcpserver access file after a > successful IMAP login? Instead of such kludges, why not implement ESMTP AUTH instead? There are patches available via www.qmail.org that allow this. That way your users can relay mail independently of the order (i.e. they can even relay Email without checking via POP/IMAP first). Naturally, the Courier SMTP server natively supports AUTH (and STARTTLS for that matter) AUTH kicks ass ;-) -- Cheers Jason Haar Unix/Special Projects, Trimble NZ Phone: +64 3 9635 377 Fax: +64 3 9635 417
Re: Roaming users and Courier IMAP
Gavin Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I currently have my system setup so that roaming users can use smtp after > POP3 to relay through the mail server. > > We would also like to allow roaming IMAP server to use the server for > relaying. Does anyone have a small program/script that I can slot into > couriertcpd that will update smtpd's tcpserver access file after a > successful IMAP login? Bruce Guenter's relay-ctrl can do exactly this, for POP3 and Courier IMAP. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
Roaming users and Courier IMAP
Hi all, I currently have my system setup so that roaming users can use smtp after POP3 to relay through the mail server. We would also like to allow roaming IMAP server to use the server for relaying. Does anyone have a small program/script that I can slot into couriertcpd that will update smtpd's tcpserver access file after a successful IMAP login? Thanks in advance, Gavin
Re: Secure IMAP server
On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:32:13 +0100, Felix von Leitner wrote: > That is not sufficient. That was my point. Not having seen a security audit, nor looked at the code myself, there is not solid claim to security. > That said, I use the imapd myself. We use it here as well on production systems. > While I would not trust it as much as an imapd from djb, it seems to be > the best alternative. Please note that IMAP is a large and complicated > protocol. It is difficult to make it right because of the complexity. My point exactly. Since there is no other alternative at this time then it wins out by default. Compared to the rest of the imapd that exist courier-imap works best with the our current needs. Andy
Re: Secure IMAP server
Thus spake Andy Bradford ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > While courier-imap isn't coded in the same style that DJB uses, I do > believe that it has been built with security in mind. That is not sufficient. Windows is also built with security in mind, according to Microsoft. I have not done a code audit of Courier. That said, I use the imapd myself. While I would not trust it as much as an imapd from djb, it seems to be the best alternative. Please note that IMAP is a large and complicated protocol. It is difficult to make it right because of the complexity. If you just want to retrieve email, use pop-3. Felix
