RE: $HOME/Maildir
> You've got much more basic problems here. Uninstall qmail and > everything else related, and then re-install according to the > instructions in "Life with qmail" at http://lifewithqmail.org . Follow > all of the instructions to the letter. It *really* does work! Give it a try, You can almost do a cut and paste install from this how-to since its so complete. Cheers.
Re: $HOME/Maildir
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's my first instalation of QMAIL and I am having one trouble to > setup the POP3 users. > > First: I have a Red Hat 7.0 running in a Pentium II computer, and I > instaled QMAIL using RPM binnary: > qmail-1.03-17 Never heard of it. Or do you mean Bruce Guenter's qmail-1.03+patches-17 source RPM? > I instaled the checkpassword using the Tar file from the DJB home page, and > then I started QMAIL and POP3 thought XINET. qmail-pop3d, you mean. inetd and xinetd are deprecated. > Follow the instructions in the Life with qmail I added the ./Mailbox to the > /var/qmail/control/defaultdelivery, Can't do this -- qmail-pop3d only understands Maildirs, not mbox files. > qmail-pw2u: fatal: unable to find alias user. You've got much more basic problems here. Uninstall qmail and everything else related, and then re-install according to the instructions in "Life with qmail" at http://lifewithqmail.org . Follow all of the instructions to the letter. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Re: $HOME/Maildir
On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 05:16:21PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > First: I have a Red Hat 7.0 running in a Pentium II computer, and I > instaled > QMAIL using RPM binnary: mistake, follow live with qmail instead. http://www.lifewithqmail.org > I instaled the checkpassword using the Tar file from the DJB home page, and > then I started QMAIL and POP3 thought XINET. good > > For that, I configured the pop3 file in the /etc/xinet.d/pop3 : xinetd is a bad thing > server_args = inteliweb.com.br /bin/checkpassword > /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d /home/inteliweb look at this mess... you are using checkpassword and trying to use vmailmgr ? i think you would go better with vchkpw here > And using VMAILMGR (loged as inteliweb) I added the user test password vmailmgr & checkpassword _just doesnt work_ checkpassword is for "real" *nix users only > I wrote the /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts to: > localhost unneccessary > Follow the instructions in the Life with qmail I added the ./Mailbox to the > /var/qmail/control/defaultdelivery, and tried to assign the user inteliweb ./Mailbox is false if you want to use vmailmgr... > to /var/qmail/usres/assign without sucess receiving the error code: > qmail-pw2u: fatal: unable to find alias user. what does "id alias" say ? most probably user not found really: follow lwq EXACTLY, and not with that rpm bullshit -- Lukas Beeler<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG Fingerprint: 8030 1C2F 66C5 9D80 AA31 6604 7D4D 0A67 68D8 B67E
$HOME/Maildir
Hi,
It's my first instalation of QMAIL and I am having one trouble to setup the
POP3 users.
First: I have a Red Hat 7.0 running in a Pentium II computer, and I
instaled
QMAIL using RPM binnary:
qmail-1.03-17
I instaled the checkpassword using the Tar file from the DJB home page, and
then I started QMAIL and POP3 thought XINET.
For that, I configured the pop3 file in the /etc/xinet.d/pop3 :
service pop3
{
socket_type = stream
protocol= tcp
wait= no
user= root
server = /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup
server_args = inteliweb.com.br /bin/checkpassword
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d /home/inteliweb
log_type= FILE /var/log/xinetd.log
log_on_success = HOST
log_on_failure = HOST RECORD
}
And using VMAILMGR (loged as inteliweb) I added the user test password
test,
creating the /home/inteliweb/users/test/ ...tree (cur, new, tmp).
I wrote the /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts to:
localhost
inteliweb.com.br
And in the virtualdomains:
inteliweb.com.br:inteliweb
Where inteliweb was an user created to this domain.
Follow the instructions in the Life with qmail I added the ./Mailbox to the
/var/qmail/control/defaultdelivery, and tried to assign the user inteliweb
to /var/qmail/usres/assign without sucess receiving the error code:
qmail-pw2u: fatal: unable to find alias user.
With this trouble I manualy assigned writing to
the /var/qmail/users/assign:
=inteliweb:inteliweb:519:505:/home/inteliweb:::
+inteliweb-:inteliweb:519:505:/home/inteliweb:=::
Re: Qmail IMAP4 for Maildir - best one??
Roger Arnold wrote: Great one Tony, Thank God that someone else thinks some (not all) people on this list are real Jerks, would like to use stronger language but am trying to be polite. A lot of the experts read the title and glance at the request, and then set about running the person that asked into the ground by making un called for remarks about why the question asked, when they think all the answers are in the archives etc., without finding out what the question was really about. Also many of the answers in the archives often don't answer what the searcher was after (such as your query) and further answers are needed, which take many hours rather than seconds to find, if at all. One of the main reasons that I stay away from lists to do with qmail is because of the attitude of a lot of these type of people, which if they don't want to help, they would be best not to answer at all. Regards Roger Tony Harris wrote: > Thank you for such a wonderfully nice short response. > > I'm sorry if I sound like a jerk, but I had read several were out there - > and I had read on here some people complaining about slowness and some > moving from courier to UW, and some moving from UW to courier. > > I HAD searched the archives - most of the ones that had to do with opinions > of IMAP that I saw were several months old - as you know software can change > fast with new features and better stability. > > Reading the base faq (which I DID DO): > > 5.2.4. imap-maildir > David R. Harris has cleaned up the patch that adds maildir support to the > University of Washington IMAP server and documented the installation > process. See http://www.davideous.com/imap-maildir/. > > 5.2.5. Courier-IMAP > Sam Varshavchik has written an IMAP server that supports maildir mailboxes > only. It's available from http://www.inter7.com/courierimap/. > > And I did not read *your* FAQ because I do not use QMail-LDAP - actually I > use a combination of sendmail and qmail for the mail solution, so forgive me > for not wanting to make a switch to move everything into an LDAP style > solution. > > So, before you jump down someones throat for something you ASSUME (ie: not > doing homework) - check first. > > -Tony > > - Original Message - > From: Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 3:33 PM > Subject: Re: Qmail IMAP4 for Maildir - best one?? > > > On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 09:35:05PM -0500, Tony Harris wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm looking at using a webmail program that requires the use of > MAPv4 - I > > > see there are various imap packages available that works with qmail - > which > > > is really the most stable and seems to work the best with IMAP? > > > > How many seconds did you spent in searching the archives, reading > > lifewithqmail.org and qmail.org? > > In short: courier is the preferred one for most of us. > > > > > I'm looking at trying out squirrelmail (so any other tips one might be > able > > > to offer would be greatly appreciated as well ;) > > > > squirrel is fine, sqwebmail too. > > I've written a short pargraph about the two in > www.lifewithqmail.org/ldap/. > > > > Please do your homework next time. > > > > -- > > * Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.bsws.de * > > * Roedingsmarkt 14, 20459 Hamburg, Germany * > > Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. > > (Dennis Ritchie) > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/18/01
Re: Maildir/cur folder question
On Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 08:35:05AM -0700, Randolph S. Kahle wrote: > I have noticed that sometimes email messages will appear in the > /Maildir/cur folder that have the format: > > ...;2, This is normal. > I believe they also have ownership set to root:root. This is not normal. You have a misconfiguration or you are using buggy software. > When this happens, then email clients (such as Netscape) get "stuck" and > retrieve the same message over and over again. To "fix" this, I have to > copy the files back to the /Maildir/new folder, change ownership, and > remove the ":2," from the file name. > > What is the purpose of the /Maildir/cur folder? It saves any messages that have been read at least once, but not deleted. > Why are email message left in this folder? Because a client retrieved a message without deleting it. > Is there a better way to handle this the next time it occurs? Find out what's wrong with your setup. The behaviour you describe (especially the root ownership) is not normal. Greetz, Peter -- Against Free Sex! http://www.dataloss.nl/Megahard_en.html
Maildir/cur folder question
I have noticed that sometimes email messages will appear in the /Maildir/cur folder that have the format: ...;2, I believe they also have ownership set to root:root. When this happens, then email clients (such as Netscape) get "stuck" and retrieve the same message over and over again. To "fix" this, I have to copy the files back to the /Maildir/new folder, change ownership, and remove the ":2," from the file name. What is the purpose of the /Maildir/cur folder? Why are email message left in this folder? Is there a better way to handle this the next time it occurs? Randy
$maildir.....cjk
Hello I would like to know where i DEFINE the $maildir. I went to www.vmailmgr.org site and i tried to follow the instructions of the 3.5 Enabling enforcement of virtual user quotas and 3.6 Enabling processing of autoresponses I did the following:in a .qmail-default in the /home/user/.qmail-default i have the following |/usr/local/bin/vdeliver |/usr/local/bin/vdeliver-predeliver |/usr/local/bin/vdeliver-postdeliver And in predeliver i have : #!/bin/sh /usr/bin/vcheckquota and in postdeliver: #!/bin/sh if test -s $MAILDIR/autoresponse/message.txt then qmail-autoresponder $MAILDIR/autoresponse/message.txt $MAILDIR/autoresponse fi When i use predeliver it says in maillog: failure: vcheckquota:_MAILDIR_is_not_set/ and i postdeliver it does nothing Anybody knows why??? Tks & Best Regards Koulis Constantine. Bucharest Romania Business Phone :+4-093979131 _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Re: Qmail IMAP4 for Maildir - best one??
Thank you for such a wonderfully nice short response. I'm sorry if I sound like a jerk, but I had read several were out there - and I had read on here some people complaining about slowness and some moving from courier to UW, and some moving from UW to courier. I HAD searched the archives - most of the ones that had to do with opinions of IMAP that I saw were several months old - as you know software can change fast with new features and better stability. Reading the base faq (which I DID DO): 5.2.4. imap-maildir David R. Harris has cleaned up the patch that adds maildir support to the University of Washington IMAP server and documented the installation process. See http://www.davideous.com/imap-maildir/. 5.2.5. Courier-IMAP Sam Varshavchik has written an IMAP server that supports maildir mailboxes only. It's available from http://www.inter7.com/courierimap/. And I did not read *your* FAQ because I do not use QMail-LDAP - actually I use a combination of sendmail and qmail for the mail solution, so forgive me for not wanting to make a switch to move everything into an LDAP style solution. So, before you jump down someones throat for something you ASSUME (ie: not doing homework) - check first. -Tony - Original Message - From: Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 3:33 PM Subject: Re: Qmail IMAP4 for Maildir - best one?? > On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 09:35:05PM -0500, Tony Harris wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm looking at using a webmail program that requires the use of MAPv4 - I > > see there are various imap packages available that works with qmail - which > > is really the most stable and seems to work the best with IMAP? > > How many seconds did you spent in searching the archives, reading > lifewithqmail.org and qmail.org? > In short: courier is the preferred one for most of us. > > > I'm looking at trying out squirrelmail (so any other tips one might be able > > to offer would be greatly appreciated as well ;) > > squirrel is fine, sqwebmail too. > I've written a short pargraph about the two in www.lifewithqmail.org/ldap/. > > Please do your homework next time. > > -- > * Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.bsws.de * > * Roedingsmarkt 14, 20459 Hamburg, Germany * > Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. > (Dennis Ritchie) > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/18/01
Re: Qmail IMAP4 for Maildir - best one??
On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 09:35:05PM -0500, Tony Harris wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking at using a webmail program that requires the use of IMAPv4 - I > see there are various imap packages available that works with qmail - which > is really the most stable and seems to work the best with IMAP? How many seconds did you spent in searching the archives, reading lifewithqmail.org and qmail.org? In short: courier is the preferred one for most of us. > I'm looking at trying out squirrelmail (so any other tips one might be able > to offer would be greatly appreciated as well ;) squirrel is fine, sqwebmail too. I've written a short pargraph about the two in www.lifewithqmail.org/ldap/. Please do your homework next time. -- * Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.bsws.de * * Roedingsmarkt 14, 20459 Hamburg, Germany * Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie)
Qmail IMAP4 for Maildir - best one??
Hi, I'm looking at using a webmail program that requires the use of IMAPv4 - I see there are various imap packages available that works with qmail - which is really the most stable and seems to work the best with IMAP? I'm looking at trying out squirrelmail (so any other tips one might be able to offer would be greatly appreciated as well ;) -Tony --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/18/01
Re: pop3d maildir problems...
I posted this problem yesterday. Same problem, but using tcpserver instead of inetd. (guessing we can possibly rule out either of these 2 being the cause?) /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -R -H -l 0 0 110 \ /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup mail \ /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir & the message number in which they get stuck on is random. both email programs are affected. dialup users (connected @26000 - 44000+) bad phone lines in the area Only thing noticed is that all their messages would be in cur/, yet they didn't download them yet. good pings across the ethernet interfaces. load on the mail server is 1.39, 0.66, 0.59 not bad. So im lost as well :c( - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 9:22 AM Subject: pop3d maildir problems... : Hi all, : : It's a fairly straight forward problem (I think I have written the list : about it before, and I believe someone posted last night that is having a : similar / same problem) : : Client connects to pop : They start to download : they get a few messages (somewhere between 1 and 5) : It will just hang popping out at this point. it will time out and claim the : pop3 server is not responding. : : This is happening with people with both outlook express and Netscape mail. : Some have virus scanners some don't. The problem started appearing about 2 : to 2.5 weeks ago. Not everyone runs into this issue - but we have been : getting more and more complaints. : : qmail-popup is being started from xinetd. : : Any suggestions / help would be appreciated. : : -Tony : : A safe place for Apple ]['s... : http://www.a2haven.org : : --- : "Ugh - You mean I have to do that AGAIN??" :
pop3d maildir problems...
Hi all, It's a fairly straight forward problem (I think I have written the list about it before, and I believe someone posted last night that is having a similar / same problem) Client connects to pop They start to download they get a few messages (somewhere between 1 and 5) It will just hang popping out at this point. it will time out and claim the pop3 server is not responding. This is happening with people with both outlook express and Netscape mail. Some have virus scanners some don't. The problem started appearing about 2 to 2.5 weeks ago. Not everyone runs into this issue - but we have been getting more and more complaints. qmail-popup is being started from xinetd. Any suggestions / help would be appreciated. -Tony A safe place for Apple ]['s... http://www.a2haven.org --- "Ugh - You mean I have to do that AGAIN??"
Re: Maildir problem
Adding Maildir to /etc/skel is only good for users you'll be creating in the future. For all existing users, you need to run /var/qmail/bin/maildirmake in each of the $HOME directory. > Helena Zhang wrote: > > Hi, > > I installed qmail version 1.03 on my Red Hat 6.0 machine, and it is > working fine. I selected Maildir as the default delivery method. The > manual told me to add the directoy Maildir/ in to /etc/skel and to all > other users, and so I did. but when I telnet my port 110, the > following error will appear: > > Trying 216.237.57.142... > Connected to 216.237.57.142. > escape character is '^]'. > +OK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > user helena > pass 123* > -ERR this user has no $HOME/Maildir > Connection closed by foreign host. > > * not the real password > > but the $HOME/Maildir/ directory is there. After that I removed the > user and create it again, which worked. Now I want to do it to the > user root, but I can't remove root and created one again. Can anyone > help me with that? > > Regards, > > Helena Zhang
Re: Maildir problem
hi, for root u dont create Maildir ...create a dot qmail file for root in /var/qmail/alias and do whatever u want with it. man dot-qmail for more details regards dushyanth > Hi, > > I installed qmail version 1.03 on my Red Hat 6.0 machine, and it is > working fine. I selected Maildir as the default delivery method. The > manual told me to add the directoy Maildir/ in to /etc/skel and to all > other users, and so I did. but when I telnet my port 110, the following > error will appear: > >Trying 216.237.57.142... >Connected to 216.237.57.142. >escape character is '^]'. >+OK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >user helena >pass 123* >-ERR this user has no $HOME/Maildir >Connection closed by foreign host. > > * not the real password > > but the $HOME/Maildir/ directory is there. After that I removed the > user and create it again, which worked. Now I want to do it to the user > root, but I can't remove root and created one again. Can anyone help me > with that? > > Regards, > > Helena Zhang -- Dushyanth Harinath Archean Infotech Limited Ph No:091-040-3228666,6570704,3228674 http://www.archeanit.com - This email was sent using SquirrelMail. "Webmail for nuts!" http://squirrelmail.org/
Maildir problem
Hi, I installed qmail version 1.03 on my Red Hat 6.0 machine, and it is working fine. I selected Maildir as the default delivery method. The manual told me to add the directoy Maildir/ in to /etc/skel and to all other users, and so I did. but when I telnet my port 110, the following error will appear: Trying 216.237.57.142... Connected to 216.237.57.142. escape character is '^]'. +OK <3094.995952119@mail.astroburst.com> user helena pass 123* -ERR this user has no $HOME/Maildir Connection closed by foreign host. * not the real password but the $HOME/Maildir/ directory is there. After that I removed the user and create it again, which worked. Now I want to do it to the user root, but I can't remove root and created one again. Can anyone help me with that? Regards, Helena Zhang
FW: Converting Maildir to Mailbox
Hi all, Newbie question. I've been using qmail for a while, and now has come requirement for a webmail package. The one I really want to use is Neomail, but it seems that it only supports Mailbox format, not maildir. Hence I was wondering if there was a way to convert back the maildir to mailbox, or run a process that does it. I've had a look at the maildir2mbox and gotten thoroughly confused. Cheers, Doogie
RE: qmail, Maildir, IMAP, and MS Outlook
We use O2k & courier-imap sitting on top of vpopmail - works fine. Allows webmail to plug in nicely too. -Original Message- From: Ricardo SIGNES [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 11 July 2001 23:04 To: David Talkington Cc: Sam Carleton; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: qmail, Maildir, IMAP, and MS Outlook In a message dated Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 01:33:13AM -0500, David Talkington wrote: > Sam Carleton wrote: > >Does anyone know of a IMAP server that get along with Outlook 2000 and that > >works with Maildir/? > We have no trouble with Outlook Express and Courier, and I believe > Outlook uses the same mail subsystem as Outlook Express IF the former > is in "internet mail" mode, and not MAPI (I think they call that > "corporate/workgroup mode"). MAPI is an abomination anyway. > At least that was true of Outlook when last I dealt with it, which I'm > happy to say was about 18 months ago. That's true for Outlook 2000, yes. Outlook 2002 is happy to run IMAP -and- MAPI, so I've switched to that at work. Sadly, we use the abomination. -- rjbs
Re: qmail, Maildir, IMAP, and MS Outlook
In a message dated Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 01:33:13AM -0500, David Talkington wrote: > Sam Carleton wrote: > >Does anyone know of a IMAP server that get along with Outlook 2000 and that > >works with Maildir/? > We have no trouble with Outlook Express and Courier, and I believe > Outlook uses the same mail subsystem as Outlook Express IF the former > is in "internet mail" mode, and not MAPI (I think they call that > "corporate/workgroup mode"). MAPI is an abomination anyway. > At least that was true of Outlook when last I dealt with it, which I'm > happy to say was about 18 months ago. That's true for Outlook 2000, yes. Outlook 2002 is happy to run IMAP -and- MAPI, so I've switched to that at work. Sadly, we use the abomination. -- rjbs PGP signature
Re: qmail, Maildir, IMAP, and MS Outlook
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Sam Carleton wrote: >Does anyone know of a IMAP server that get along with Outlook 2000 and that >works with Maildir/? We have no trouble with Outlook Express and Courier, and I believe Outlook uses the same mail subsystem as Outlook Express IF the former is in "internet mail" mode, and not MAPI (I think they call that "corporate/workgroup mode"). MAPI is an abomination anyway. At least that was true of Outlook when last I dealt with it, which I'm happy to say was about 18 months ago. - -d - -- David Talkington http://www.spotnet.org PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/dt000823.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQEVAwUBO0vzK71ZYOtSwT+tAQGpdAgA0b0HOE98NrBJEwssf40La3PX50ibiMUE SlsFRu96q6qKhakJqD7Yw5ugbEcZnmZb6wL15S3zbcJXZpXGjfnVcM7IoJT4Aygo b3Nh1xZWscsxTbsKhMSkv3SasyTN/AKdfhmnZnBnQNHFCdfUbBDyxw0D0mn0MBrM Zbt/ZhiTKOc6jb5XfsnuRXG6/3P78+84BUprqrwV/mLALZLomJaEze8Gme61+Feg 7rtyVldZLVjegp65hp37mfrSO2gMRzn+69RW4OWCgA7JdLDeni6l7asgwxh7ZnUj /LQNHBw03XkRXchwQeRv6je42AGpoCKGLvl1W2YQe3a+fLXLaAkdoQ== =+XNF -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: qmail, Maildir, IMAP, and MS Outlook
we use courier-imapd with no problems on our office mailserver, and some people here use Outlook with no problems. While courier can be a pain at times it's probably the best solution. You could also try UW imapd with the (unofficial) Maildir patches. i don't think anyone has problems moving folders around or whatever; we usually make all the folders subfolders of 'Maildir' so if I wanted to make a folder called foo The directory for foo would then be Maildir/.foo/ and if it had a subdirectory bar it would be Maildir/.foo/.bar/ I think you have to play around with the settings in OE a little to get them to recognize the folders but it should definitely work. It's not going to be as easy to configure as another MS product since, as you mentioned, but it should definitely work. perhaps you could let us know the settings you're using and the exact errors you're getting. You might try creating folders on the server and see if you can get outlook to recognize them. for instance, (not as root): % cd Maildir/ % /var/qmail/bin/maildirmake .foo will On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 10:18:51PM -0400, Sam Carleton wrote: > Before folks start flaming me, I know Outlook sucks and I know that > Microsoft has never written a decent piece of code. With that said... > > I am using qmail, because it is the best mail server out there. I would > like to be able to configure MS Outlook so that it interacts with qmail the > same way it does with Exchange. Or at least similar in the respect that one > can manage folders and move mail around and it all stays on the server. My > understanding is that IMAP is the solution. I have installed courier-IMAP, > but from that mailing list I have learned that Outlook is not a standard MUA > with respect it IMAP, or anything else for that matter. > > Does anyone know of a IMAP server that get along with Outlook 2000 and that > works with Maildir/? > > Sam >
qmail, Maildir, IMAP, and MS Outlook
Before folks start flaming me, I know Outlook sucks and I know that Microsoft has never written a decent piece of code. With that said... I am using qmail, because it is the best mail server out there. I would like to be able to configure MS Outlook so that it interacts with qmail the same way it does with Exchange. Or at least similar in the respect that one can manage folders and move mail around and it all stays on the server. My understanding is that IMAP is the solution. I have installed courier-IMAP, but from that mailing list I have learned that Outlook is not a standard MUA with respect it IMAP, or anything else for that matter. Does anyone know of a IMAP server that get along with Outlook 2000 and that works with Maildir/? Sam
re: maildir
>#pwd >/var/qmail/boot/ >#grep Maildir * ># >There is no file in boot containing a Maildir delivery instruction. There >are ./Mailbox examples, and this is correct, but MailBOX and not MailDIR >format. My mistake..sorry...no wonder I can't get the Maildir to work :-) Rob..
Re: Maildir
On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 10:02:12PM -0500, cyberruz wrote: > Interesting...especially when the scripts in /var/qmail/boot don't > have a trailing '/' after ./Maildir > (ie. that's how they come with qmail) #pwd /var/qmail/boot/ #grep Maildir * # There is no file in boot containing a Maildir delivery instruction. There are ./Mailbox examples, and this is correct, but MailBOX and not MailDIR format. -- * Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.bsws.de * * Roedingsmarkt 14, 20459 Hamburg, Germany * Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie)
Maildir
>qmail-lspawn ./Maildir >qmailr 143 0.0 0.2 1048 328 ?S09:51 0:00 >Unable_to_open_./Maildir:_is_a_directory._(#4.2.1)/ >@40003b4528aa1125e674 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 >Add a trailing slash to ./Maildir/ ... >Cheers -d Interesting...especially when the scripts in /var/qmail/boot don't have a trailing '/' after ./Maildir (ie. that's how they come with qmail) In answer to the other post, Maildir works well, especially when you get heaps of email in one mailbox! Rob..
Re: Qmail tries to deliver to /home/usr/Maildir
> > I still don't see why qmail is trying to put the mail in /home/usr/Maildir > > instead of under the vpopmail/domains directory... > > Repeating myself: your virtualdomains configuration. Post the contents of > virtualdomains. > > Charles Apologies to Charles and the list - I was working on this problem at a couple of different occaisions, but had left Outlook Express open at this location in the meantime, so this machine was grabbing responses to my posts before I could see them at the other place. I did subscrible to the vpopmail mailing list in the meantime though, thanks. I never really did find out what the root of the problem was, but fixed it by removing and re-adding the domain. I backed up vpopmail/domains/mydomain, removed the original, added it again, then wrote a perl script to add the 200 users back into the new domain, check the copy of the original domain subdirectories for leftover user mails and copy them to the new domain. Things seem to be working so far... Thanks again to Charles and everyone else for their help. Shawn
Re[2]: Unable_to_open_./Maildir:_is_a_directory._(#4.2.1)/
> > Trying 127.0.0.1... > Connected to 127.0.0.1. > Escape character is '^]'. > +OK riga POP3 Server (Version 1.006d) ready at > USER essy > +OK please send PASS command > PASS essy > +OK 0 messages ready for essy in /var/spool/mail/essy > > where's my email gone to ?? > > Seems like your pop3 server is looking for mail in /var/spool/mail but you are delivering to a Maildir. You need a pop3 server that can handle maildir. There is one with the qmail distribution and it should be in your /var/qmail/bin directory. look for qmail-pop3d. Cheers Lars
Re: Unable_to_open_./Maildir:_is_a_directory._(#4.2.1)/
Hi thanks for all at qmail list for the quick reply finally i can send the messages and the report at /var/log/qmail/current is like this : @40003b45473506367634 delivery 3: success: did_0+1+0/qp_23115/ @40003b454735063c5dec status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 @40003b45473506442234 end msg 191482 @40003b4547350caecda4 delivery 4: success: did_1+0+0/ @40003b4547350caf277c status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 @40003b4547350caf4e8c end msg 191483 But when I check to my Maildir (~essy/Maildir) it's still empty, my email actually never back to my inbox I can't receive the email here's the output when i do telnet 127.0.0.1 110 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to 127.0.0.1. Escape character is '^]'. +OK riga POP3 Server (Version 1.006d) ready at USER essy +OK please send PASS command PASS essy +OK 0 messages ready for essy in /var/spool/mail/essy where's my email gone to ??
RE: Unable_to_open_./Maildir:_is_a_directory._(#4.2.1)/
> Unable_to_open_./Maildir:_is_a_directory._(#4.2.1)/ > @40003b4528aa1125e674 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 > > eventhough i set the mode to 777 at my Maildir, it didn't take any effect Listen to the error. It is not a DNS problem. Post the contents of /var/qmail/rc. Chances are REALLY good there's a typo there. Here's mine: #!/bin/sh exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \ qmail-start '|dot-forward .forward ./Maildir/' Oh, and change your permissions back. They should be 700. While you're at it, make sure the user owns the Maildir. This problem is all over the archives. Look there. --joshua.
RE: Quick question re maildir
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Joshua Nichols wrote: >> weeks, and as part of the planning process am wondering if the >> general consensus is that the "maildir" method is the way to >> go. Appreciate comments/advice. > >Absolutely. > >Check the archives, there's alot of info there about the benefits of >Maildirs. Recently, someone posted some excellent statistics on Maildir v. >mbox. I don't remember the post, but was this the information to which it referred? http://www.courier-mta.org/mbox-vs-maildir It's a very thorough set of benchmarks. Good reading. - -d - -- David Talkington http://www.spotnet.org PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/dt000823.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQEVAwUBO0Usor1ZYOtSwT+tAQGixAgAo2BnWtUxHXuvA9odsoa/OmE8wshYfhBe k0ePargg81ft0/pPMv1uoVD/DaecExh/Fyj0QyNv1TuWcHNFgxWaALt11FTnSQif Tj3hM2lVmtRoSISHN/IDWKbHqS4HLohMNHa6D/AzQx3QlZO1HVq9jX7Fow8PszQe FL5OmHAJPN83uEvNdO+MnRxKDi9710R8HNc2KwGqALnMJTX5tmTnp8dEx5yh1P3Z s8nSru49H29dFAqw2/YfwIj4Hw/QffwWmCNlfitB3VWtInHvwhxSlcsobmAuyFGZ PqPCoj8LZj5J6Wbbaosqd0kekFz9uZ5CKjH1f/r9B+a8IAV0F5PYig== =S5LR -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Unable_to_open_./Maildir:_is_a_directory._(#4.2.1)/
you're probably starting qmail with and argument that looks like this: qmail-start ./Maildir instead of this: qmail-start ./Maildir/ the trailing slash tells qmail that it should to a Maildir, and not a file. > But when I try to send myself an email, it show line like this at my > /var/log/qmail/current file : > @40003b4528aa0eba06f4 starting delivery 4: msg 191485 to local > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > @40003b4528aa0eba7c24 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 > @40003b4528aa1125658c delivery 4: deferral: > Unable_to_open_./Maildir:_is_a_directory._(#4.2.1)/ > @40003b4528aa1125e674 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
Re: Unable_to_open_./Maildir:_is_a_directory._(#4.2.1)/
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >qmail-lspawn ./Maildir >qmailr 143 0.0 0.2 1048 328 ?S09:51 0:00 >Unable_to_open_./Maildir:_is_a_directory._(#4.2.1)/ >@40003b4528aa1125e674 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 Add a trailing slash to ./Maildir/ ... Cheers -d - -- David Talkington http://www.spotnet.org PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/dt000823.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQEVAwUBO0Uqx71ZYOtSwT+tAQFW0Af/UmUeOmW+3kURmau+ai2aHykRQUEhNVic wilBCKu9G8Z7TGuVuXVLKHZgIuWdKdXq8glr7QdnP+/SVsvpxAoCDt0ZSSKyVGM1 6MPzMcntDbAIvsFxytWLL6jQbDetF6QS6jLyO5mp2cVfpeNmAqTEsSdLCFmtDqX0 dGUIWDM68u6+I3OTfmyXu7ENlhqZcplvDg/wztrfn5LoxhVTekajIFGJizRobZdU NfxhqHqsIK7txpEgTeMr657lPvXXbAy1n6jiVVUsRAUAHqS1QBMsWk4OqGwpBUNh 0j+db9Jzw7hTD5t5dR78kNZKasnPc//o3kIOeiyzM43E6Qrdkf2v8Q== =GrYF -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Unable_to_open_./Maildir:_is_a_directory._(#4.2.1)/
Essy Ren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unable_to_open_./Maildir:_is_a_directory._(#4.2.1)/ > @40003b4528aa1125e674 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 You're trying to do mbox delivery to a Maildir, or something similar. Check your default delivery instruction (argument to qmail-start, possibly stored in a file somewhere), any .qmail files used, and the man page for qmail-local for details. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Unable_to_open_./Maildir:_is_a_directory._(#4.2.1)/
Hello again I've installed qmail-1.03 and using bind 9 I've made the MX record like this in my db.test.local file : mailIN MX10 riga.test.local mailIN A 192.168.1.31 When I run the ps aux the qmail seems to run : qmails 134 0.0 0.3 1088 392 ?S09:51 0:00 qmail-send qmaill 139 0.1 0.2 1052 364 ?S09:51 0:00 /usr/local/bin/multilog t /var/log/qmail/smtpd qmaill 141 0.0 0.2 1044 336 ?S09:51 0:00 /usr/local/bin/multilog t /var/log/qmail root 142 0.0 0.2 1048 336 ?S09:51 0:00 qmail-lspawn ./Maildir qmailr 143 0.0 0.2 1048 328 ?S09:51 0:00 qmail-rspawn qmailq 144 0.0 0.2 1040 348 ?S09:51 0:00 qmail-clean But when I try to send myself an email, it show line like this at my /var/log/qmail/current file : @40003b4528aa0eba06f4 starting delivery 4: msg 191485 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] @40003b4528aa0eba7c24 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 @40003b4528aa1125658c delivery 4: deferral: Unable_to_open_./Maildir:_is_a_directory._(#4.2.1)/ @40003b4528aa1125e674 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 eventhough i set the mode to 777 at my Maildir, it didn't take any effect ... can someone help me ... ? thanks
Unable_to_open_./Maildir:_is_a_directory._(#4.2.1)/
Hello again I've installed qmail-1.03 and using bind 9 I've made the MX record like this in my db.test.local file : mailIN MX10 riga.test.local mailIN A 192.168.1.31 When I run the ps aux the qmail seems to run : qmails 134 0.0 0.3 1088 392 ?S09:51 0:00 qmail-send qmaill 139 0.1 0.2 1052 364 ?S09:51 0:00 /usr/local/bin/multilog t /var/log/qmail/smtpd qmaill 141 0.0 0.2 1044 336 ?S09:51 0:00 /usr/local/bin/multilog t /var/log/qmail root 142 0.0 0.2 1048 336 ?S09:51 0:00 qmail-lspawn ./Maildir qmailr 143 0.0 0.2 1048 328 ?S09:51 0:00 qmail-rspawn qmailq 144 0.0 0.2 1040 348 ?S09:51 0:00 qmail-clean But when I try to send myself an email, it show line like this at my /var/log/qmail/current file : @40003b4528aa0eba06f4 starting delivery 4: msg 191485 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] @40003b4528aa0eba7c24 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 @40003b4528aa1125658c delivery 4: deferral: Unable_to_open_./Maildir:_is_a_directory._(#4.2.1)/ @40003b4528aa1125e674 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 eventhough i set the mode to 777 at my Maildir, it didn't take any effect ... can someone help me ... ? thanks
Re: Quick question re maildir
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maildirs are incredibly easy to manipulate with shell or Perl or > Python, more reliable than mailbox, and can be locked over NFS. Small correction: Maildirs need no locking, even over NFS. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Re: Quick question re maildir
On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 12:30:52PM +1200, Steve Reed wrote: > Hi all, > > Thanks for the great help from this group in the past. I plan > to begin the migration process to qmail in the coming days and > weeks, and as part of the planning process am wondering if the > general consensus is that the "maildir" method is the way to > go. Appreciate comments/advice. Basically, the only reasons not to go to maildir are shell users who are set in their ways (and have been for years). Maildirs are incredibly easy to manipulate with shell or Perl or Python, more reliable than mailbox, and can be locked over NFS. Shell users will generally fall into the mutt or emacs camps; you should wean your Pine users anyway; you already know if you have a population of mh users. POP users will never notice the difference, except that when someone mails them a 400MB PowerPoint preso, you can ls their maildir, note the 400MB monstrosity, and delete it or move it for them without disturbing any other mail. -dsr-
RE: Quick question re maildir
> weeks, and as part of the planning process am wondering if the > general consensus is that the "maildir" method is the way to > go. Appreciate comments/advice. Absolutely. Check the archives, there's alot of info there about the benefits of Maildirs. Recently, someone posted some excellent statistics on Maildir v. mbox. --joshua.
Quick question re maildir
Hi all, Thanks for the great help from this group in the past. I plan to begin the migration process to qmail in the coming days and weeks, and as part of the planning process am wondering if the general consensus is that the "maildir" method is the way to go. Appreciate comments/advice. Cheers, Steve
Re: Qmail tries to deliver to /home/usr/Maildir
lists <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have the following file: > warabi# cat /usr/local/vpopmail/domains/nca.or.jp/.qmail-default > | /usr/local/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' > /usr/local/vpopmail/domains/nca.or.jp/1/04awano > > Which I assume means that bounced mail goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Is this > correct? > I still don't see why qmail is trying to put the mail in /home/usr/Maildir > instead of under the vpopmail/domains directory... Repeating myself: your virtualdomains configuration. Post the contents of virtualdomains. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Qmail tries to deliver to /home/usr/Maildir
Hello, My saga continues... I'm having a problem where qmail is attempting to deliver mail to/home/usr/Maildir instead of/usr/local/vpopmail/domain/mydomain/user/Maildir.Most of the users are vpopmail users and therefore do not have a /home/usrdirectory, so I get the dreaded 'Unable_to_chdir_to_maildir' on incomingmail to them.After 4 hrs sleep in the last 24 hrs straight trying to get this problemsolved, I'm getting a little frustrated. Any feedback would be appreciated.Here are my files:warabi# cat /usr/local/etc/rc.d/svscan.sh#!/bin/sh -e# startup script from:# http://www.flounder.net/qmail/qmail-howto.html#8#ln -s /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-pop3d /service/qmail-pop3dcase "$1" in start) echo -n "Startng djb services: svscan " cd /service env - PATH="/usr/local/bin:$PATH" svscan & echo $! > /var/run/svscan.pid echo "." ;; stop) echo -n "Stopping djb services: svscan " kill `cat /var/run/svscan.pid` echo -n "services " svc -dx /service/* echo -n " logging " svc -dx /service/*/log echo "." ;; restart|reload|force-reload) $0 stop $0 start ;; *) echo 'Usage: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/svscan (start|stop|restart)' exit 1;esacexit 0warabi# cat /service/qmail-send/run (->/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send/run)#!/bin/shexec /var/qmail/rcwarabi# cat /service/qmail-smtpd/run (->/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtp/run)#!/bin/shQMAILDUID=`id -u qmaild`NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 200 \ /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x /usr/local/vpopmail/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb \ -u $QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1warabi# cat /service/qmail-pop3d/run (->/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-pop3d/run)#!/bin/sh env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin" \ /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -H -R -u vpopmail -g vchkpw 0 pop3/var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup \ warabi.nca.or.jp /usr/local/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw \ /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir 2>&1warabi# cat /var/qmail/rc#!/bin/shexec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \qmail-start "`cat /var/qmail/control/defaultdelivery`" 2>&1warabi# cat /var/qmail/control/defaultdelivery./Maildir/warabi# cat /var/qmail/control/defaultdomainwarabi.nca.or.jpwarabi# cat /usr/local/vpopmail/etc/tcp.smtp127.0.0.1:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""warabi# cat /var/qmail/users/assign+nca.or.jp-:nca.or.jp:1227:65535:/usr/local/vpopmail/domains/nca.or.jp:-:: .All files/dirs under /usr/local/vpopmail are chown vpopmail.vchkpw.All subdirs are chmod 755. According to http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html , "3.6.2. Wildcard assignmentA wildcard assignment looks like: +prefix:user:uid:gid:directory:dash:prepend: What this means is that messages received for addresses of the form prefixrest will run as user user, with the specified uid and gid, and the file directory/.qmaildashprependrest will specify how the messages are to be delivered." I have the following file:warabi# cat /usr/local/vpopmail/domains/nca.or.jp/.qmail-default| /usr/local/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' /usr/local/vpopmail/domains/nca.or.jp/1/04awano Which I assume means that bounced mail goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Is this correct?I still don't see why qmail is trying to put the mail in /home/usr/Maildir instead of under the vpopmail/domains directory... Can anyone see what I am missing here?Thanks for any help.Shawn
Re: qmail-send cpu and imapd / Maildir
On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 03:22:43AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > i installed the .deb binary packages (very nervously) and i think that > has fixed the problem *knocks wood* > > thanks to everyone who responded. one other little question. is there > anywhere else i should check permissions of besides /var/qmail/ ? i had > to change the uids and gids of some system users to get the package to > install, and so i used 'find' to change the permissions to the correct > user(s) in /var/qmail. there isn't anywhere else i need to change, > right? I don't think so but keep an eye on the queue. > has anyone had good luck with these binary packages? > http://innominate.org/~pape/Debian/ (listed on the main qmail page)? > aside from installing dot-forward and fastforward which I don't need > since the system already uses .qmail files and qmail style aliases it > seemed to work pretty well. I haven't tried them -- I use Debian's package when I don't compile it myself :) Jörgen
Re: qmail-send cpu and imapd / Maildir
i installed the .deb binary packages (very nervously) and i think that has fixed the problem *knocks wood* thanks to everyone who responded. one other little question. is there anywhere else i should check permissions of besides /var/qmail/ ? i had to change the uids and gids of some system users to get the package to install, and so i used 'find' to change the permissions to the correct user(s) in /var/qmail. there isn't anywhere else i need to change, right? has anyone had good luck with these binary packages? http://innominate.org/~pape/Debian/ (listed on the main qmail page)? aside from installing dot-forward and fastforward which I don't need since the system already uses .qmail files and qmail style aliases it seemed to work pretty well. w Will Yardley wrote: > > sweet thanks for pointing this out. sorry to be so obtuse, but can > you explain how it should be? > > make check didn't fix it (although it did notice that there was a > problem). > > i also tried: > make trigger > > zugzug# make trigger > cc trigger.o -o trigger > /usr/lib/crt1.o: In function `_start': > /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x18): undefined reference to `main' > trigger.o: In function `trigger_set': > trigger.o(.text+0x25): undefined reference to `open_read' > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > make: *** [trigger] Error 1 > > so perhaps there's an error with either the source (as i mentioned it's > from the debian source package for 1.03) or with the library mentioned > (crt1.0). the machine is debian / potato (2.2) GNU / Linux > > w > Jörgen Persson wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 01:36:51AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > > > zugzug# ll > > > total 16 > > > drwxr-x---2 qmailq qmail4096 Mar 30 2000 ./ > > > drwxr-x--- 11 qmailq qmail4096 Mar 30 2000 ../ > > > -rw---1 qmails qmail 0 Mar 30 2000 sendmutex > > > -rw-r--r--1 qmailr qmail1024 Jul 2 20:05 tcpto > > > -rw--w--w-1 qmails qmail 1 Jul 3 01:20 trigger > > > > Bingo... > > > > trigger ought to be a pipe ''make check'' will fix it -- hopefully. ;) > > > > Jörgen
Re: qmail-send cpu and imapd / Maildir
On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 02:02:31AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > sweet thanks for pointing this out. sorry to be so obtuse, but can > you explain how it should be? The server I'm currently on looks like this: total 12 drwxr-x---2 qmailq qmail4096 Jul 1 2000 . drwxr-x--- 11 qmailq qmail4096 Jul 1 2000 .. -rw---1 qmails qmail 0 Jul 1 2000 sendmutex -rw-r--r--1 qmailr qmail1024 Jun 28 08:13 tcpto prw--w--w-1 qmails qmail 0 Jul 3 10:52 trigger > make check didn't fix it (although it did notice that there was a > problem). > > i also tried: > make trigger > > zugzug# make trigger > cc trigger.o -o trigger > /usr/lib/crt1.o: In function `_start': > /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x18): undefined reference to `main' > trigger.o: In function `trigger_set': > trigger.o(.text+0x25): undefined reference to `open_read' > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > make: *** [trigger] Error 1 I get the same error myself if I try ''make trigger'' but ''make'' with the original source works fine under libc 2.2.3 and gcc 2.95.4. Try to recompile the entire source. > so perhaps there's an error with either the source (as i mentioned it's > from the debian source package for 1.03) or with the library mentioned > (crt1.0). the machine is debian / potato (2.2) GNU / Linux I've been running the binary qmail package to Debian Potato successfully on several servers. Though I prefer to compile it myself :) An alternative solution is: 1) shut down qmail 2) mv trigger /tmp 3) mknod trigger p 4) chown qmails.qmail trigger 5) chmod 644 trigger 6) start qmail I moved trigger to tmp as a backup if something goes wrong but I'm quite certain it'll work though. The CPU problem might remain if the queue inodes are wrong... A third solution is queue-fix[1] which is mentioned on the ''qmail home page''[2]. It is supposed to fix the entire queue structure but I haven't tested that utility myself. Jörgen [1] http://www.netmeridian.com/e-huss/queue-fix.tar.gz [2] http://www.qmail.org/
Re: qmail-send cpu and imapd / Maildir
sweet thanks for pointing this out. sorry to be so obtuse, but can you explain how it should be? make check didn't fix it (although it did notice that there was a problem). i also tried: make trigger zugzug# make trigger cc trigger.o -o trigger /usr/lib/crt1.o: In function `_start': /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x18): undefined reference to `main' trigger.o: In function `trigger_set': trigger.o(.text+0x25): undefined reference to `open_read' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [trigger] Error 1 so perhaps there's an error with either the source (as i mentioned it's from the debian source package for 1.03) or with the library mentioned (crt1.0). the machine is debian / potato (2.2) GNU / Linux w Jörgen Persson wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 01:36:51AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > > zugzug# ll > > total 16 > > drwxr-x---2 qmailq qmail4096 Mar 30 2000 ./ > > drwxr-x--- 11 qmailq qmail4096 Mar 30 2000 ../ > > -rw---1 qmails qmail 0 Mar 30 2000 sendmutex > > -rw-r--r--1 qmailr qmail1024 Jul 2 20:05 tcpto > > -rw--w--w-1 qmails qmail 1 Jul 3 01:20 trigger > > Bingo... > > trigger ought to be a pipe ''make check'' will fix it -- hopefully. ;) > > Jörgen
Re: qmail-send cpu and imapd / Maildir
On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 01:36:51AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > zugzug# ll > total 16 > drwxr-x---2 qmailq qmail4096 Mar 30 2000 ./ > drwxr-x--- 11 qmailq qmail4096 Mar 30 2000 ../ > -rw---1 qmails qmail 0 Mar 30 2000 sendmutex > -rw-r--r--1 qmailr qmail1024 Jul 2 20:05 tcpto > -rw--w--w-1 qmails qmail 1 Jul 3 01:20 trigger Bingo... trigger ought to be a pipe ''make check'' will fix it -- hopefully. ;) Jörgen
Re: qmail-send cpu and imapd / Maildir
yeah but there is barely anything there. we don't send out very much mail at all (the machine is only for internal use). in fact the entire /var/qmail/queue directory tree is pretty much empty, as is /var/spool/qmail this is why it's perplexing... i think it must be a problem with the install or something; qmail has been acting that way since it was installed - even when there was barely anyone on the machine. zugzug# ll total 16 drwxr-x---2 qmailq qmail4096 Mar 30 2000 ./ drwxr-x--- 11 qmailq qmail4096 Mar 30 2000 ../ -rw---1 qmails qmail 0 Mar 30 2000 sendmutex -rw-r--r--1 qmailr qmail1024 Jul 2 20:05 tcpto -rw--w--w-1 qmails qmail 1 Jul 3 01:20 trigger zugzug# pwd /var/qmail/queue/lock and from roughly the same time... 1:21am up 55 days, 10:22, 2 users, load average: 1.20, 1.24, 1.25 61 processes: 54 sleeping, 2 running, 5 zombie, 0 stopped CPU states: 0.1% user, 0.6% system, 0.0% nice, 0.5% idle Mem: 516576K av, 383872K used, 132704K free, 19700K shrd, 257452K buff Swap: 1020116K av, 3340K used, 1016776K free 93692K cached PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 32076 qmails20 0 396 396 308 R 0 90.5 0.0 778:11 qmail-send 19851 root 2 0 1276 1276 680 R 0 2.8 0.2 0:00 top Jörgen Persson wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 10:39:43AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > > Jörgen Persson wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 01:25:20AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > > > > i've heard from a couple people that the qmail-send process is > > > > supposed to take up all the avail cpu when nothing else is using it; > > > > is that right? > > > > > > Hardly -- what does the log say? > > > > > > Jörgen > > well the logs aren't really spitting out any errors; they look like this > > (and a lot of procmail backtraces from various peoples' mail delivery). > > we do have a lot of people using procmail to filter their mail (probably > > about 20 or so out of 40 users) and a bunch of people using spambouncer > > (a bunch of procmail scripts) but the machine itself doesn't have that > > many users, and the load did the same thing when less people were using > > procmail and almost noone was using spambouncer. > > Procmail may cause it but I doubt it since your problem concerns > outgoing mail. > > Check your queue -- what does ''/var/qmail/queue/lock'' look like? > > Jörgen
Re: qmail-send cpu and imapd / Maildir
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 10:39:43AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > Jörgen Persson wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 01:25:20AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > > > i've heard from a couple people that the qmail-send process is > > > supposed to take up all the avail cpu when nothing else is using it; > > > is that right? > > > > Hardly -- what does the log say? > > > > Jörgen > well the logs aren't really spitting out any errors; they look like this > (and a lot of procmail backtraces from various peoples' mail delivery). > we do have a lot of people using procmail to filter their mail (probably > about 20 or so out of 40 users) and a bunch of people using spambouncer > (a bunch of procmail scripts) but the machine itself doesn't have that > many users, and the load did the same thing when less people were using > procmail and almost noone was using spambouncer. Procmail may cause it but I doubt it since your problem concerns outgoing mail. Check your queue -- what does ''/var/qmail/queue/lock'' look like? Jörgen
Re: qmail-send cpu and imapd / Maildir
Jörgen Persson wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 01:25:20AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > > i've heard from a couple people that the qmail-send process is > > supposed to take up all the avail cpu when nothing else is using it; > > is that right? > > Hardly -- what does the log say? > > Jörgen well the logs aren't really spitting out any errors; they look like this (and a lot of procmail backtraces from various peoples' mail delivery). we do have a lot of people using procmail to filter their mail (probably about 20 or so out of 40 users) and a bunch of people using spambouncer (a bunch of procmail scripts) but the machine itself doesn't have that many users, and the load did the same thing when less people were using procmail and almost noone was using spambouncer. Jul 2 10:20:26 zugzug qmail: 994094426.896253 starting delivery 860880: msg 32818 to local x Jul 2 10:20:26 zugzug qmail: 994094426.897151 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 Jul 2 10:20:31 zugzug qmail: 994094431.062349 new msg 32821 Jul 2 10:20:31 zugzug qmail: 994094431.063532 info msg 32821: bytes 1030 from qp 25920 uid 1001 Jul 2 10:20:31 zugzug qmail: 994094431.125982 starting delivery 860881: msg 32821 to local x Jul 2 10:20:31 zugzug qmail: 994094431.126914 status: local 2/10 remote 0/20 Jul 2 10:20:31 zugzug qmail: 994094431.529032 delivery 860881: success: did_0+0+1/ Jul 2 10:20:31 zugzug qmail: 994094431.530214 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 Jul 2 10:20:31 zugzug qmail: 994094431.530522 end msg 32821 Jul 2 10:20:41 zugzug qmail: 994094441.513518 new msg 32821 Jul 2 10:20:41 zugzug qmail: 994094441.514655 info msg 32821: bytes 1058 from qp 25927 uid 1001 Jul 2 10:20:41 zugzug qmail: 994094441.592107 starting delivery 860882: msg 32821 to local x Jul 2 10:20:41 zugzug qmail: 994094441.593109 status: local 2/10 remote 0/20 Jul 2 10:20:42 zugzug qmail: 994094442.094698 delivery 860882: success: did_0+0+1/ Jul 2 10:20:42 zugzug qmail: 994094442.095894 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 Jul 2 10:20:42 zugzug qmail: 994094442.096184 end msg 32821 Jul 2 10:21:05 zugzug qmail: 994094465.081823 new msg 32821 Jul 2 10:21:05 zugzug qmail: 994094465.082982 info msg 32821: bytes 4870 from <> qp 25934 uid 1001 Jul 2 10:21:05 zugzug qmail: 994094465.145353 starting delivery 860883: msg 32821 to local x Jul 2 10:21:05 zugzug qmail: 994094465.146323 status: local 2/10 remote 0/20 Jul 2 10:21:05 zugzug qmail: 994094465.590657 delivery 860883: success: did_0+0+1/ Jul 2 10:21:05 zugzug qmail: 994094465.591874 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 Jul 2 10:21:05 zugzug qmail: 994094465.592132 end msg 32821 here's a more complete 'top' output: 10:27am up 54 days, 19:28, 1 user, load average: 1.17, 1.36, 1.25 68 processes: 60 sleeping, 3 running, 5 zombie, 0 stopped CPU states: 36.2% user, 63.7% system, 0.0% nice, 0.0% idle Mem: 516576K av, 507756K used, 8820K free, 18776K shrd, 449500K buff Swap: 1020116K av, 4528K used, 1015588K free 20308K cached PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 168 qmails16 0 212 188 108 R 0 99.0 0.0 75304m qmail-send 26309 root 2 0 1284 1284 688 R 0 0.9 0.2 0:00 top 1 root 0 0 108 6448 S 0 0.0 0.0 0:28 init 2 root 0 0 00 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:02 kflushd 3 root 0 0 00 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:48 kupdate 4 root 0 0 00 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 kpiod 5 root 0 0 00 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:13 kswapd 172 qmaill 0 0 208 200 160 S 0 0.0 0.0 8:54 splogger 173 root 0 0 156 12056 S 0 0.0 0.0 5:33 qmail-lspawn 174 qmailr 0 0 140 11284 S 0 0.0 0.0 0:19 qmail-rspawn 175 qmailq 0 0 116 10076 S 0 0.0 0.0 1:03 qmail-clean 179 root 0 0 388 372 300 S 0 0.0 0.0 216:46 syslogd 186 root 0 0 4480 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 klogd 204 root 0 0 1716 1292 528 S 0 0.0 0.2 5:06 named 224 root 0 0 112 6040 S 0 0.0 0.0 0:01 couriertcpd 232 root 0 0 200 192 160 S 0 0.0 0.0 0:02 logger 233 root 0 0 112 6040 S 0 0.0 0.0 0:20 couriertcpd 236 root 0 0 200 192 160 S 0 0.0 0.0 0:19 logger 275 root 0 0 492 408 340 S 0 0.0 0.0 0:54 sshd 285 root 0 0 1552 1552 1320 S 0 0.0 0.3 0:00 ntpd 327 root 0 0640 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 getty 328 root 0 0640 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 getty 329 root 0 0640 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 getty 330 root 0 0640 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 getty 331 root 0 0640 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 getty 23917 root 0 0 244 224 184 S 0 0.0
Re: qmail-send cpu and imapd / Maildir
well (in reference to the first person's query) the logs don't seem to show anything too strange as far as i can see; dns is resolving pretty quick; in fact it's resoving to a caching install of bind at the moment (i think someone did that in case that was the problem. as you can see, localhost is the default resolver and this particular query took 2 msec. the other two nameservers are on the same lan. zugzug # dig yahoo.com ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> yahoo.com ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 3 ;; QUERY SECTION: ;; yahoo.com, type = A, class = IN ;; ANSWER SECTION: yahoo.com. 23m55s IN A 216.115.108.243 yahoo.com. 23m55s IN A 216.115.108.245 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: yahoo.com. 1d23h53m55s IN NS NS3.EUROPE.yahoo.com. yahoo.com. 1d23h53m55s IN NS NS1.yahoo.com. yahoo.com. 1d23h53m55s IN NS NS5.DCX.yahoo.com. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: NS3.EUROPE.yahoo.com. 4h55m21s IN A 217.12.4.71 NS1.yahoo.com. 4h55m21s IN A 204.71.200.33 NS5.DCX.yahoo.com. 4h55m21s IN A 216.32.74.10 ;; Total query time: 2 msec ;; FROM: zugzug.hq.newdream.net to SERVER: default -- 127.0.0.1 ;; WHEN: Mon Jul 2 09:54:48 2001 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 27 rcvd: 172 here's the startup script: zugzug # cat /etc/init.d/qmail-start csh -cf '/var/qmail/rc &' zugzug # cat /var/qmail/rc #!/bin/sh # Using splogger to send the log through syslog. # Using procmail to deliver messages to /var/spool/mail/$USER by default. exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \ qmail-start '|preline procmail' splogger qmail i suppose the fact that it's using procmail as a delivery agent might be part of the problem. Mike Peppard wrote: > > Qmail takes hardly any cpu or memory. It's VERY disk and > interrupt intensive by design. Also you shouldn't see > your system cpu usage higher then your user usage. That > indicates a badly written application somewhere. You know > that though. > > You can take portmap off. You don't need it. Portmap wouldn't > make it 3 days without being broken into if it were on the > Internet. That's not the problem though. > > Do you have how you start off qmail-send? > My guess is that your DNS isn't resolving very well. You have > a stub resolver on this machine? I don't see one. > > -Mike > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Will Yardley > > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 4:25 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: qmail-send cpu and imapd / Maildir
Re: qmail-send cpu and imapd / Maildir
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 01:25:20AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > i've heard from a couple people that the qmail-send process is > supposed to take up all the avail cpu when nothing else is using it; > is that right? Hardly -- what does the log say? Jörgen
qmail-send cpu and imapd / Maildir
I'm new to the list so feel free to flog me if these questions are archived somewhere (i haven't been able to turn up anything on a couple of searches). 1) I'm running qmail on a debian box; i'm pretty sure it was built from the qmail-src 1.03-14 debian source package. there has been some debate as to whether this is normal; i've heard from a couple people that the qmail-send process is supposed to take up all the avail cpu when nothing else is using it; is that right? here's a typical output of 'top'... as you can see the load is a bit high for a machine that's doing nothing but accept mail for 30-40 people and provide imap / ssl imap service. the load rarely gets too high, and qmail does seem to allow other procs to take up some cpu, but generally qmail-send is taking up at least 40-50 percent of the cpu, and the load is often between 1 and 2 even in the evening when the box is being used for very little. 1:05am up 54 days, 10:06, 1 user, load average: 1.28, 1.32, 1.24 67 processes: 58 sleeping, 4 running, 5 zombie, 0 stopped CPU states: 33.0% user, 66.9% system, 0.0% nice, 0.0% idle Mem: 516576K av, 461880K used, 54696K free, 14500K shrd, 398160K buff Swap: 1020116K av, 5496K used, 1014620K free 27264K cached PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 168 qmails13 0 212 188 108 R 0 98.6 0.0 74778m qmail-send 8046 william2 0 1284 1284 688 R 0 0.9 0.2 0:00 top 446 dallas 0 0 1008 1000 336 S 0 0.3 0.1 0:12 imapd 1 root 0 0 108 6448 S 0 0.0 0.0 0:28 init 2 root 0 0 00 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:02 kflushd 3 root 0 0 00 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:47 kupdate 4 root 0 0 00 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 kpiod 5 root 0 0 00 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:13 kswapd 84 daemon 0 0840 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 portmap 172 qmaill 0 0 208 200 160 S 0 0.0 0.0 8:49 splogger 173 root 0 0 156 12056 S 0 0.0 0.0 5:30 qmail-lspawn 174 qmailr 0 0 140 11284 S 0 0.0 0.0 0:19 qmail-rspawn 175 qmailq 0 0 116 10076 S 0 0.0 0.0 1:02 qmail-clean 179 root 0 0 388 372 300 S 0 0.0 0.0 214:40 syslogd 186 root 0 0 4480 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 klogd 2) has anyone had much luck with any type of imapd other than courier for qmail using Maildir? i was able to get the uw Maildir patches to work, but it didn't seem to work well with 'dot' subfolders. When creating folders from netscape the new folders were created in the main home directory, and '.' subfolders and sub-subfolders didn't show up.
Re: Maildir directory layout
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You could also just do echo "./Mail/Inbox" > ~/.qmail -- this would > > accomplish the same thing, and then you don't need procmail any more. > > Ah, but then I have to figure out how to use it. I already know (just > about) how to use procmail :-) dot-qmail is trival -- the man page for dot-qmail has full details. It's a heck of a lot easier to do mail sorting with .qmail files and extension addresses than any postprocessing system. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Re: Maildir directory layout
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 08:55:59AM -0600, Charles Cazabon wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm going to be redoing my qmail installation over the next couple of > > days, preparatory to installing Courier IMAP or similar. > > > > Currently, however, I have my mail directory arranged like this: > > > > ~roger/Mail/Inbox > > ~roger/Mail/Sent > > ~roger/Mail/Lists/qmail > > > > ...etc. > > Nothing wrong with that. What I didn't point out, is that these are Maildirs -- I forgot the trailing / > You could also just do echo "./Mail/Inbox" > ~/.qmail -- this would accomplish > the same thing, and then you don't need procmail any more. Ah, but then I have to figure out how to use it. I already know (just about) how to use procmail :-) > I have something similar, but I don't use mbox files. Yeah, as I forgot to mention, I don't use mbox, either. > I then have a symbolic link from ~/Maildir/ to ~/Mail/inbox/, so > qmail-pop3d still works with my mail as well. Now, that sounds like a good idea. Cheers, Roger.
Re: Maildir directory layout
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 03:34:36PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] > My question: Is this a sensible layout for Maildir? Are there any > docs about preferred layouts, etc.? I have ~/mail/INBOX/, ~/mail/lists/qmail/, ~/mail/lists/ezmlm/ etcetera. Works like a charm. Do whatever pleases you :) Greetz, Peter -- Against Free Sex! http://www.dataloss.nl/Megahard_en.html
Re: Maildir directory layout
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm going to be redoing my qmail installation over the next couple of > days, preparatory to installing Courier IMAP or similar. > > Currently, however, I have my mail directory arranged like this: > > ~roger/Mail/Inbox > ~roger/Mail/Sent > ~roger/Mail/Lists/qmail > > ...etc. Nothing wrong with that. > The default is for qmail to deliver to ~/Maildir, but I use procmail > to deliver to ~/Mail/Inbox by default. This works fine with mutt. You could also just do echo "./Mail/Inbox" > ~/.qmail -- this would accomplish the same thing, and then you don't need procmail any more. > Most of the other users on this box have left the default -- which is > good, because then it works with qmail-pop3d. Yes, good. > My question: Is this a sensible layout for Maildir? Are there any > docs about preferred layouts, etc.? I have something similar, but I don't use mbox files. I then have a symbolic link from ~/Maildir/ to ~/Mail/inbox/, so qmail-pop3d still works with my mail as well. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Maildir directory layout
I'm going to be redoing my qmail installation over the next couple of days, preparatory to installing Courier IMAP or similar. Currently, however, I have my mail directory arranged like this: ~roger/Mail/Inbox ~roger/Mail/Sent ~roger/Mail/Lists/qmail ...etc. The default is for qmail to deliver to ~/Maildir, but I use procmail to deliver to ~/Mail/Inbox by default. This works fine with mutt. Most of the other users on this box have left the default -- which is good, because then it works with qmail-pop3d. My question: Is this a sensible layout for Maildir? Are there any docs about preferred layouts, etc.? Cheers, Roger.
Re: deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/
Please don't cc: me; I'm on the mailing list. Stephen Froehlich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The only reason they need .qmail files is because your qmail-start default > > delivery argument is broken: > > > > qmail-start 'dot-forward .forward | > > ./Maildir/' > > > > If you really want to use dot-forward, followed by ./Maildir/ if .forward > > doesn't exist, it'll have to be: > > > > qmail-start '|dot-forward .forward > > ./Maildir/' > > > > Note your pipe symbol is in the wrong place. > > I see. Should the newline still be in there? Yes. Each delivery instruction has to be on a separate line in the .qmail file, and the argument to qmail-start follows this format. That's one of the reasons you need to quote the whole thing. > On the other hand, now that .qmail is in /etc/skel, that gives me some added > flexibility without the trouble. I should still fix it--to make assurance > double sure. You should change it. In fact, not having a .qmail file in /etc/skel is usually a good idea -- it makes it easier to change the default delivery instructions -- you don't have to grep through every user's files. > If I change rc to what you have above, will .qmail files in users homedirs > still be honored? Yes. A user's .qmail file always overrides the default delivery instructions; that's why putting .qmail files in these users' directories worked when the qmail-start argument wasn't correct. > I must say that I like the feature that qmail will hold the messages in > the queue until you fix things (as opposed to bouncing them), I'm sure that > it has covered a multitude of sins (i.e. users only notice when they get > confirmation that mail isn't being delivered instantly). Note that qmail will only hold it in the queue for queuelifetime seconds; after that, the mail will bounce. > Thanks again for all of your help - honestly, this mailing list, though > it is a little slower than picking up the phone and calling is of more > consistent quality than most tech support organizations. If you want pick-up-the-phone responsiveness _and_ accuracy, hire Russell Nelson as your qmail consultant. He does phone support, and takes credit cards too :). Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Re: deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/
> The only reason they need .qmail files is because your qmail-start default > delivery argument is broken: > > qmail-start 'dot-forward .forward | > ./Maildir/' > > If you really want to use dot-forward, followed by ./Maildir/ if .forward > doesn't exist, it'll have to be: > > qmail-start '|dot-forward .forward > ./Maildir/' > > Note your pipe symbol is in the wrong place. I see. Should the newline still be in there? On the other hand, now that .qmail is in /etc/skel, that gives me some added flexibility without the trouble. I should still fix it--to make assurance double sure. If I change rc to what you have above, will .qmail files in users homedirs still be honored? I must say that I like the feature that qmail will hold the messages in the queue until you fix things (as opposed to bouncing them), I'm sure that it has covered a multitude of sins (i.e. users only notice when they get confirmation that mail isn't being delivered instantly). Thanks again for all of your help - honestly, this mailing list, though it is a little slower than picking up the phone and calling is of more consistent quality than most tech support organizations.
Re: deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/
Stephen Froehlich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Solved - the difference was that these two users also didn't have a .qmail > in their home directory at all. (I had set them up before I had /etc/skel > fleshed out.) Thanks again for your help. The only reason they need .qmail files is because your qmail-start default delivery argument is broken: qmail-start 'dot-forward .forward | ./Maildir/' If you really want to use dot-forward, followed by ./Maildir/ if .forward doesn't exist, it'll have to be: qmail-start '|dot-forward .forward ./Maildir/' Note your pipe symbol is in the wrong place. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Re: deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/
Stephen Froehlich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> No, neither of these users have .qmail files in their home directory.
As Russ said, check your default delivery argument -- it has the same format
as a .qmail file, but is supplied on the commandline to qmail-start. This
should be located in your /var/qmail/rc or /service/{qmail,qmail-send}/run
scripts.
> They have .qmail files in /var/qmail/alias referring to the usernames e.g..
> "echo admin_email > .qmail-postmaster", however many of those are working
> just fine, just not the ones pointing to these two users.
Note that forwarding lines really should begin with a '&' -- it works if you
leave it off only if the first character of the username is a letter or
number. You mentioned there were underscores in these users' names; they
wouldn't _start_ with an underscore, would they?
If so, I claim another victory for the "post _all_ information right from the
start, because you don't know what's relevant" camp.
Charles
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Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/
Solved - the difference was that these two users also didn't have a .qmail in their home directory at all. (I had set them up before I had /etc/skel fleshed out.) Thanks again for your help.
Re: deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/
OK, I may be a little confused. /var/qmail/rc reads --- #!/bin/sh exec env - PATH = "/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \ qmail-start 'dot-forward .forward | ./Maildir/' --- None of the users have .qmail files in their home directories. In addition, most users are working, including others that are going through .qmail files. For example, I recieve email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] just fine, and there exists a file "echo froehlik > /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-froehlichs". - Original Message - From: "Williams, Paul (OTS-EDH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Stephen Froehlich'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 10:32 AM Subject: RE: deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/ > Check their .qmail files (and the system qmail-local default) and see if you > mistakenly put "./Maildir" instead of "./Maildir/". > > -Original Message- > From: Stephen Froehlich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 8:01 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/ > > > The other thing that makes these users unique is that they have an "_" in > their usernames. Is this a no_no? > > - Original Message - > From: "Stephen Froehlich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 9:41 AM > Subject: deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/ > > > > I have a couple of users who aren't receiving mail with the following > error > > message > > > > delivery XX: deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/ > > > > These users are somewhat unique in that they were created before I had a > > maildir in /etc/skel, however, I su'ed to them and ran maildirmake to give > > them maildirs. > > > > Their home dirs (/home/uname) have permissions of 700 (owned by the user) > > The Maildir is also 700, and owned by the user > > > > Any idears? > > > > Thanx, > > Stephen > > > > > > Notice: This e-mail and any attachments are intended only for the > individual or company to which it is addressed and may contain information > which is privileged, confidential and prohibited from disclosure or > unauthorized use under applicable law. If you are not the intended > recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any use, > dissemination, or copying of this e-mail or the information contained in > this e-mail is strictly prohibited by the sender. If you have received this > transmission in error, please return the material received to the sender and > delete all copies from your system. Thank you. >
RE: deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/
Check their .qmail files (and the system qmail-local default) and see if you mistakenly put "./Maildir" instead of "./Maildir/". -Original Message- From: Stephen Froehlich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 8:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/ The other thing that makes these users unique is that they have an "_" in their usernames. Is this a no_no? - Original Message - From: "Stephen Froehlich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 9:41 AM Subject: deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/ > I have a couple of users who aren't receiving mail with the following error > message > > delivery XX: deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/ > > These users are somewhat unique in that they were created before I had a > maildir in /etc/skel, however, I su'ed to them and ran maildirmake to give > them maildirs. > > Their home dirs (/home/uname) have permissions of 700 (owned by the user) > The Maildir is also 700, and owned by the user > > Any idears? > > Thanx, > Stephen > Notice: This e-mail and any attachments are intended only for the individual or company to which it is addressed and may contain information which is privileged, confidential and prohibited from disclosure or unauthorized use under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, or copying of this e-mail or the information contained in this e-mail is strictly prohibited by the sender. If you have received this transmission in error, please return the material received to the sender and delete all copies from your system. Thank you.
Re: deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/
> That would be fine if you wanted email delivered to a mbox-format file > named "Maildir", confusing as that would be. I rather expect, though, > that you forgot the slash at the end of ./Maildir/. No, neither of these users have .qmail files in their home directory. They have .qmail files in /var/qmail/alias referring to the usernames e.g.. "echo admin_email > .qmail-postmaster", however many of those are working just fine, just not the ones pointing to these two users.
Re: deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/
Stephen Froehlich writes: > I have a couple of users who aren't receiving mail with the following error > message > > delivery XX: deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/ Sounds like they have a .qmail file that looks like this: ./Maildir That would be fine if you wanted email delivered to a mbox-format file named "Maildir", confusing as that would be. I rather expect, though, that you forgot the slash at the end of ./Maildir/. -- -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | #exclude Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX |
Re: deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/
On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 09:41:18AM -0500, Stephen Froehlich wrote: > delivery XX: deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/ correct you /var/qmail/rc. Hint: a / is missing. -- * Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.bsws.de * * Roedingsmarkt 14, 20459 Hamburg, Germany * Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie)
Re: deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/
On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 09:41:18AM -0500, Stephen Froehlich wrote: > I have a couple of users who aren't receiving mail with the following error > message > > delivery XX: deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/ > Here's a tip -- _directory_ delivery instructions end in a trailing slash. _File_ delivery instructions do not. Check .qmail files and the default delivery method -- Greg White
Re: deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/
Stephen Froehlich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a couple of users who aren't receiving mail with the following error > message > > delivery XX: deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/ > > These users are somewhat unique in that they were created before I had a > maildir in /etc/skel, however, I su'ed to them and ran maildirmake to give > them maildirs. > > Their home dirs (/home/uname) have permissions of 700 (owned by the user) > The Maildir is also 700, and owned by the user > > Any idears? It appears that the delivery instruction for those users (in their .qmail files) contain an mbox delivery line (no trailing slash). qmail looks for an mbox file, finds a directory, and complains. Fix the contents of their .qmail files and it should be fine. `man dot-qmail` for details. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Re: deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/
The other thing that makes these users unique is that they have an "_" in their usernames. Is this a no_no? - Original Message - From: "Stephen Froehlich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 9:41 AM Subject: deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/ > I have a couple of users who aren't receiving mail with the following error > message > > delivery XX: deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/ > > These users are somewhat unique in that they were created before I had a > maildir in /etc/skel, however, I su'ed to them and ran maildirmake to give > them maildirs. > > Their home dirs (/home/uname) have permissions of 700 (owned by the user) > The Maildir is also 700, and owned by the user > > Any idears? > > Thanx, > Stephen >
deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/
I have a couple of users who aren't receiving mail with the following error message delivery XX: deferral: /bin/sh:_./Maildir/:_is_a_directory/ These users are somewhat unique in that they were created before I had a maildir in /etc/skel, however, I su'ed to them and ran maildirmake to give them maildirs. Their home dirs (/home/uname) have permissions of 700 (owned by the user) The Maildir is also 700, and owned by the user Any idears? Thanx, Stephen
RE: Need help with Maildir
Post the line your are using to start qmail-pop3d and the contents of ls -la in the $HOME in question. -Original Message- From: Per-fredrik Pollnow (EPK) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 9:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Need help with Maildir Hi, First I want to say that I want to use Maildir. But I got this problem I can't get rid of, I probably have missed something in the INSTALL.* file. I have put the MAIL=$HOME/Maildir ; export MAIL in my .profile (using sh)), then I exec the makemaildir and after that I crated the .qmail. and so on.. This is the error message: -ERR this user has no $HOME/Maildir', Port: 110, Secure (SSL): Nej, Serverfel: 0x800CCC90, Fel nummer: 0x800CCC92 any suggestion's ?
Re: Need help with Maildir
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> writes: > any suggestion's ? Install as per www.lifewithqmail.org and experience a trouble-free life! -- "Indeed, it would not be an exaggeration to describe the history of the computer industry for the past decade as a massive effort to keep up with Apple." - Byte, December 1994
Need help with Maildir
Hi, First I want to say that I want to use Maildir. But I got this problem I can't get rid of, I probably have missed something in the INSTALL.* file. I have put the MAIL=$HOME/Maildir ; export MAIL in my .profile (using sh)), then I exec the makemaildir and after that I crated the .qmail. and so on.. This is the error message: -ERR this user has no $HOME/Maildir', Port: 110, Secure (SSL): Nej, Serverfel: 0x800CCC90, Fel nummer: 0x800CCC92 any suggestion's ?
Re: Looking for a good Maildir capable web based mail client
It's not the fanciest, but there is sqwebmail from Inter7. It does handle Maildir's very well. The URL is: http://inter7.com/freesoftware/index.html I also use their courier-imap, qmailadmin, and vpopmail. I have been very happy with the software and the support. Rick At 08:57 AM 6/25/2001 -0400, David Gartner wrote: >Hey all, > >Up until we switched over to qmail, we were using some web based mail >client. It will only work >with Mbox format, and reads directly from the file itself. Of course, >when we switched over, we >switched to Maildir, so the old mail client doesn't work anymore. The >only web based mail we can >find is CWMail, and it's rather pricey, and not so easy on the eyes. I've >seen several webmail >programs out there, but don't know which to chose. Is anyone currently >using any good web mail >software they would suggest? Thanks for the help. > >David
Re: Looking for a good Maildir capable web based mail client
www.squirrelmail.org is about the best I've found and it's free. David Gartner wrote: > > Hey all, > > Up until we switched over to qmail, we were using some web based mail client. It >will only work > with Mbox format, and reads directly from the file itself. Of course, when we >switched over, we > switched to Maildir, so the old mail client doesn't work anymore. The only web >based mail we can > find is CWMail, and it's rather pricey, and not so easy on the eyes. I've seen >several webmail > programs out there, but don't know which to chose. Is anyone currently using any >good web mail > software they would suggest? Thanks for the help. > > David
Looking for a good Maildir capable web based mail client
Hey all, Up until we switched over to qmail, we were using some web based mail client. It will only work with Mbox format, and reads directly from the file itself. Of course, when we switched over, we switched to Maildir, so the old mail client doesn't work anymore. The only web based mail we can find is CWMail, and it's rather pricey, and not so easy on the eyes. I've seen several webmail programs out there, but don't know which to chose. Is anyone currently using any good web mail software they would suggest? Thanks for the help. David
Re: Procmail + Maildir
Fábio Gomes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does Procmail work with Qmail maildir format? Newer versions of procmail have Maildir support built-in, but they don't adhere to djb's naming convention -- you could run into problems. You'd be better off to use maildrop, or if you must use procmail, use "safecat" to deliver into maildirs. See qmail.org for links. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Procmail + Maildir
Hi folks,
Does Procmail work with Qmail maildir format?
Thx
Fábio Gomes
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Re: Troubles with mailbox ( or maildir )
Andrei Tihonov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i have /usr/local/qmail/users/assign with > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:ti-an:888:888:/usr/local/qmail/users/ti-an::: That looks bogus to me. The first field is supposed to be the local part of the address -- no @, no domain. You want to use virtualdomains for something like this, I think. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Troubles with mailbox ( or maildir )
Hi, I have problem: i install qmail-103 in /usr/local/qmail and i have virtual POP3 users in /usr/local/qmail/users i have /usr/local/qmail/users/assign with [EMAIL PROTECTED]:ti-an:888:888:/usr/local/qmail/users/ti-an::: and i use Maildir format. home for ti-an have ./Maildir/ directory by maildirmake /usr/local/qmail/users/ti-an/Maildir i have user popuser and group popuser for all POP3 accounts. Owner for /Maildir/ is popuser And if i echo "to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" | qmail-inject i see following messages in /var/log/messages : Jun 22 15:37:43 goodwin qmail: 993224263.737639 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 Jun 22 15:37:48 goodwin qmail: 993224268.159698 new msg 848681 Jun 22 15:37:48 goodwin qmail: 993224268.160277 info msg 848681: bytes 192 from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 2731 uid 0 Jun 22 15:37:48 goodwin qmail: 993224268.163319 starting delivery 1: msg 848681 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jun 22 15:37:48 goodwin qmail: 993224268.163877 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 Jun 22 15:37:48 goodwin qmail: 993224268.173644 delivery 1: failure: Sorry,_no_mailbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/ Jun 22 15:37:48 goodwin qmail: 993224268.174205 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 Jun 22 15:37:48 goodwin qmail: 993224268.179983 bounce msg 848681 qp 2734 Jun 22 15:37:48 goodwin qmail: 993224268.180625 end msg 848681 Why ? Why delivery isn't work ? That is my troubles ? Andrei
RE: Maildir permissions
> I want to take the general precaution of making the maildirs > readable only to their owners (700). Will this cause qmail > any fits? No. In fact, it's the default. --joshua.
Maildir permissions
My mail server will be located in the office with all of the staff. Some or all of them may have a need for terminal access to the box. While I generally trust them (enough that I seriously doubt that they'll try to truly hack the machine, plus none of them have the skills to hack it), I want to take the general precaution of making the maildirs readable only to their owners (700). Will this cause qmail any fits?
Re: Migrating a Maildir to another qmail box
Al Sparks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It comes time to move my email, located in a $HOME/Maildir to another > machine, also running qmail. I tar the $HOME/Maildir transfer it to > the new machine (with a different name btw) and restore it to the new > $HOME/Maildir. > > What else do I need to do to make qmail on the new machine see it? Nothing -- qmail per se doesn't need to see it at all. The only program included with qmail that will even care about what's in your Maildir is qmail-pop3d. This process should be sufficient, provided you untar it as yourself (not root or someone else) or chown it all to yourself afterwords. > When I do a file listing of $HOME/Maildir/cur, I notice that the > machine name is included in the filenames. Do I need to change all > those filenames so it reflects the new machine name? No. The machine name is part of the Maildir naming convention to make it safe for multiple machines to be delivering into the Maildir over NFS. Programs don't/shouldn't care about it. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
Re: Migrating a Maildir to another qmail box
hi take a back of all /var/qmail/control directry /var/qmail/usersdirectry and restore - Original Message - From: Al Sparks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: qmail list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 4:07 AM Subject: Migrating a Maildir to another qmail box > It comes time to move my email, located in a $HOME/Maildir to another > machine, also running qmail. I tar the $HOME/Maildir transfer it to > the new machine (with a different name btw) and restore it to the new > $HOME/Maildir. > > What else do I need to do to make qmail on the new machine see it? > > When I do a file listing of $HOME/Maildir/cur, I notice that the > machine name is included in the filenames. Do I need to change all > those filenames so it reflects the new machine name? > > Realizing this isn't the courier group, are there any changes I need to > make to the various courierimapuiddb files? > > Anything else I should look for? > === Al > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Migrating a Maildir to another qmail box
It comes time to move my email, located in a $HOME/Maildir to another machine, also running qmail. I tar the $HOME/Maildir transfer it to the new machine (with a different name btw) and restore it to the new $HOME/Maildir. What else do I need to do to make qmail on the new machine see it? When I do a file listing of $HOME/Maildir/cur, I notice that the machine name is included in the filenames. Do I need to change all those filenames so it reflects the new machine name? Realizing this isnt the courier group, are there any changes I need to make to the various courierimapuiddb files? Anything else I should look for? === Al __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
RE: MailDir stopped working
On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Robert Schmid wrote: > So, why am I no longer able to access Mailboxes without symlinks? First remove one symlink (say, yours). Then send yourself some test mail, and manually check your Mailbox file. If it's in there, then your POP daemon config is broken, as Tim Hunter suggested. If not, then something's probably changed with your qmail setup, in which case the output of qmail-showctl is a first step towards solving your problem. -- Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MailDir stopped working
Yes, mail is still being delivered properly, to the ~user/Mailbox. However, I had to add symlinks to get it recognized. The rc script I use is the default --> from /usr/local/qmail/rc: #!/bin/sh # Using splogger to send the log through syslog. # Using qmail-local to deliver messages to ~/Mailbox by default. exec env - PATH="/usr/local/qmail/bin:$PATH" \ qmail-start ./Mailbox splogger qmail So, why am I no longer able to access Mailboxes without symlinks? At 6/1/2001 05:37 PM -0400, you wrote: >Actually my guess is that mail is still being delivered properly, but the >popper configuration has changed. > >-Original Message- >From: Charles Cazabon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 5:21 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: MailDir stopped working > > >Robert Schmid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > For some reason I can no longer get my mail (pop or IMAP) using > > > > ~user/Mailbox. In order to access my mail again I had to add a >symbolic > > > > link to users mailbox in /var/mail. > > > > > >The server configuration changed, then. > > > > > > > I thought this was a result of a bug in Eudora - but since it's > > > > happening to other users too, I have to look at the server. > > > > > >Yes, you have to look at the server. > > > > > >Did you have an actual question to ask the list? > > > This is what I'm using to start qmail - > > > > exec env - PATH="/usr/local/qmail/bin:$PATH" \ > > qmail-start ./Mailbox splogger qmail > >You still haven't asked a question. I'm assuming you want to know why you >need symlinks from /var/spool/$USER to $USER/Mailbox. > >This is controlled by the script you use to start qmail-smtpd, not qmail >proper. Post that script, and we'll show you what you've done wrong. > >Charles >-- >--- >Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ >Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. >---
RE: MailDir stopped working
Actually my guess is that mail is still being delivered properly, but the popper configuration has changed. -Original Message- From: Charles Cazabon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 5:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MailDir stopped working Robert Schmid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > For some reason I can no longer get my mail (pop or IMAP) using > > > ~user/Mailbox. In order to access my mail again I had to add a symbolic > > > link to users mailbox in /var/mail. > > > >The server configuration changed, then. > > > > > I thought this was a result of a bug in Eudora - but since it's > > > happening to other users too, I have to look at the server. > > > >Yes, you have to look at the server. > > > >Did you have an actual question to ask the list? > This is what I'm using to start qmail - > > exec env - PATH="/usr/local/qmail/bin:$PATH" \ > qmail-start ./Mailbox splogger qmail You still haven't asked a question. I'm assuming you want to know why you need symlinks from /var/spool/$USER to $USER/Mailbox. This is controlled by the script you use to start qmail-smtpd, not qmail proper. Post that script, and we'll show you what you've done wrong. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
Re: MailDir stopped working
Robert Schmid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > For some reason I can no longer get my mail (pop or IMAP) using > > > ~user/Mailbox. In order to access my mail again I had to add a symbolic > > > link to users mailbox in /var/mail. > > > >The server configuration changed, then. > > > > > I thought this was a result of a bug in Eudora - but since it's > > > happening to other users too, I have to look at the server. > > > >Yes, you have to look at the server. > > > >Did you have an actual question to ask the list? > This is what I'm using to start qmail - > > exec env - PATH="/usr/local/qmail/bin:$PATH" \ > qmail-start ./Mailbox splogger qmail You still haven't asked a question. I'm assuming you want to know why you need symlinks from /var/spool/$USER to $USER/Mailbox. This is controlled by the script you use to start qmail-smtpd, not qmail proper. Post that script, and we'll show you what you've done wrong. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
Re: MailDir stopped working
This is what I'm using to start qmail - exec env - PATH="/usr/local/qmail/bin:$PATH" \ qmail-start ./Mailbox splogger qmail This has not changed since it was installed and the MailDir worked until recently. At 6/1/2001 02:21 PM -0600, you wrote: >Robert Schmid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For some reason I can no longer get my mail (pop or IMAP) using > > ~user/Mailbox. In order to access my mail again I had to add a symbolic > > link to users mailbox in /var/mail. > >The server configuration changed, then. > > > I thought this was a result of a bug in Eudora - but since it's happening > > to other users too, I have to look at the server. > >Yes, you have to look at the server. > >Did you have an actual question to ask the list? > >Charles >-- >--- >Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ >Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. >---
Re: MailDir stopped working
Robert Schmid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For some reason I can no longer get my mail (pop or IMAP) using > ~user/Mailbox. In order to access my mail again I had to add a symbolic > link to users mailbox in /var/mail. The server configuration changed, then. > I thought this was a result of a bug in Eudora - but since it's happening > to other users too, I have to look at the server. Yes, you have to look at the server. Did you have an actual question to ask the list? Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
MailDir stopped working
For some reason I can no longer get my mail (pop or IMAP) using ~user/Mailbox. In order to access my mail again I had to add a symbolic link to users mailbox in /var/mail. I thought this was a result of a bug in Eudora - but since it's happening to other users too, I have to look at the server.
Re: switch from mailbox to maildir format
Hi, ---Original Message-- Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm >Precedence: bulk >Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 12:43:49 +0200 >Subject: switch from mailbox to maildir format >From: "Franco Vecchiato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hi, >I want to switch from mailbox to maildir format. In INSTALL.maildir I read>the instructions: > >----begin text -------- >% maildirmake $HOME/Maildir >% echo ./Maildir/ > ~/.qmail > >Make sure you include the trailing slash on Maildir/. > >The system administrator can setup Maildir as the default for everybody >by creating a maildir in the new-user template directory and replacing >./Mailbox with ./Maildir/ in /var/qmail/rc. > >-end text-- > >what's the "new-user template directory"? (where is it?) Like in RedHat it is /etc/skel directory where you can create Maildir, Maildir/new, Maildir/cur, Maildir/tmp ..and whatever directory and files you want to be created by default in user's home directory when ever you add new user > >Thanks in advance > >Franco Vecchiato > Santosh Pasi
RE: Maildir delivery problem
Daniel Bakken writes: > My Qmail rc script (/var/qmail/rc) reads like this: > > #!/bin/sh > > exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" qmail-start '|dot-forward .forward > ./Maildir/' > > delivery 4: deferral: dot-forward:_fatal: ./Maildir/:_is_a_directory Somehow the newline after ".forward" is getting destroyed, because dot-forward is attempting to read ./Maildir/ as if it were another file containing forwarding instructions. -- -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Microsoft rivets everything. 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | Linux has some loose screws. Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | You own a screwdriver.
Re: Maildir delivery problem
Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > delivery 4: deferral: dot-forward:_fatal: ./Maildir/:_is_a_directory Correcting myself: I didn't even notice the dot-forward in this line. That changes the diagnosis somewhat, of course :). Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
RE: Maildir delivery problem
My Qmail rc script (/var/qmail/rc) reads like this: #!/bin/sh exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" qmail-start '|dot-forward .forward ./Maildir/' -Original Message- From: Russell Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 3:42 PM To: Qmail List Subject: Re: Maildir delivery problem Daniel Bakken writes: > I am using Qmail with Maildir and pop3d. After Qmail receives a message, It > seems to not be able to deliver it. I usually see the following (roughly) in > my log: > > Starting delivery 4 . . . > > delivery 4: deferral: dot-forward:_fatal: ./Maildir/:_is_a_directory Sounds like you are missing the / at the end of "./Maildir", so it's trying to deliver to a Mailbox. -- -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Microsoft rivets everything. 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | Linux has some loose screws. Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | You own a screwdriver.
RE: Maildir delivery problem
Sorry about that. I use tcpserver by way of svscan to start Qmail. I have a script in /etc/rc.d/init.d that runs the necessary commands. Attached is the unedited output of qmail-showctl, the startup script (called qmail) and the log fragment(qmail-log). -Original Message- From: Charles Cazabon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 3:33 PM To: Qmail List Subject: Re: Maildir delivery problem Daniel Bakken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am using Qmail with Maildir and pop3d. After Qmail receives a message, It > seems to not be able to deliver it. I usually see the following (roughly) in > my log: > > delivery 4: deferral: dot-forward:_fatal: ./Maildir/:_is_a_directory > > I hope that's enough information to be useful. It isn't, usually, but we can take a stab at it. I would guess that you're trying to deliver to Maildirs in $HOME as your default delivery policy, but the argument to qmail-start is missing the trailing slash, so qmail is looking for an mbox named "Maildir" -- not quite what you want. This argument might be encoded in a file in /var/qmail/control, or might be in whatever script you use to start qmail (an rc script, or a svscan-style script). In future, you probably want to supply the following information with reports. It would have made it possible to diagnose this problem with certainty: -unedited output of `qmail-showctl` -cut & paste copies of relevant log entries from qmail and/or qmail-smtpd -a copy of the script you use to start qmail -general information on how you installed and configured qmail Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. --- QMAIL qmail home directory: /var/qmail. user-ext delimiter: -. paternalism (in decimal): 2. silent concurrency limit: 120. subdirectory split: 23. user ids: 501, 502, 503, 0, 504, 505, 506, 507. group ids: 501, 502. badmailfrom: (Default.) Any MAIL FROM is allowed. bouncefrom: (Default.) Bounce user name is MAILER-DAEMON. bouncehost: (Default.) Bounce host name is puerta.encoretrading.vvm.com. concurrencylocal: (Default.) Local concurrency is 10. concurrencyremote: (Default.) Remote concurrency is 20. databytes: (Default.) SMTP DATA limit is 0 bytes. defaultdomain: Default domain name is encoretrading.vvm.com. defaulthost: Default host name is encoretrading.com. doublebouncehost: (Default.) 2B recipient host: puerta.encoretrading.vvm.com. doublebounceto: (Default.) 2B recipient user: postmaster. envnoathost: (Default.) Presumed domain name is puerta.encoretrading.vvm.com. helohost: (Default.) SMTP client HELO host name is puerta.encoretrading.vvm.com. idhost: (Default.) Message-ID host name is puerta.encoretrading.vvm.com. localiphost: (Default.) Local IP address becomes puerta.encoretrading.vvm.com. locals: Messages for localhost.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa are delivered locally. Messages for puerta.encoretrading.vvm.com are delivered locally. Messages for encoretrading.com are delivered locally. me: My name is puerta.encoretrading.vvm.com. percenthack: (Default.) The percent hack is not allowed. plusdomain: Plus domain name is vvm.com. qmqpservers: (Default.) No QMQP servers. queuelifetime: (Default.) Message lifetime in the queue is 604800 seconds. rcpthosts: SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at localhost.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa. SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at puerta.encoretrading.vvm.com. SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at encoretrading.com. SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at encoretrading.vvm.com. morercpthosts: (Default.) No effect. morercpthosts.cdb: (Default.) No effect. smtpgreeting: SMTP greeting: 220 +OK ESMTP Qmail 1.0.3 Mail Server - Encore Trading International. smtproutes: (Default.) No artificial SMTP routes. timeoutconnect: (Default.) SMTP client connection timeout is 60 seconds. timeoutremote: (Default.) SMTP client data timeout is 1200 seconds. timeoutsmtpd: (Default.) SMTP server data timeout is 1200 seconds. virtualdomains: QMAIL-LO
RE: Maildir delivery problem
I'm not sure what files you are talking about. What directory are .qmail and .forward located in? I just set up Qmail and am new to mailserver administration. So far I do not have a production server, just a test. Daniel Bakken -Original Message- From: Peter van Dijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 3:27 PM To: Qmail List Subject: Re: Maildir delivery problem On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 03:19:42PM -0500, Daniel Bakken wrote: > I am using Qmail with Maildir and pop3d. After Qmail receives a message, It > seems to not be able to deliver it. I usually see the following (roughly) in > my log: > > Starting delivery 4 . . . > > delivery 4: deferral: dot-forward:_fatal: ./Maildir/:_is_a_directory Looks like you put ./Maildir/ in .forward. Try putting it in .qmail instead. Greetz, Peter.
Re: Maildir delivery problem
Daniel Bakken writes: > I am using Qmail with Maildir and pop3d. After Qmail receives a message, It > seems to not be able to deliver it. I usually see the following (roughly) in > my log: > > Starting delivery 4 . . . > > delivery 4: deferral: dot-forward:_fatal: ./Maildir/:_is_a_directory Sounds like you are missing the / at the end of "./Maildir", so it's trying to deliver to a Mailbox. -- -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Microsoft rivets everything. 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | Linux has some loose screws. Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | You own a screwdriver.
