Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-25 Thread Jake Vickers
Maxwell Smart wrote: The activity I see when I tail -f /var/log/qmail/smtp/current is what I mean. Is there someplace I can see a flow chart of a default setup? and how to follow the mail through the system? This would be extremely helpful. I can get you all of the detail you need, but I need

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-25 Thread Maxwell Smart
Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: The activity I see when I tail -f /var/log/qmail/smtp/current is what I mean. Is there someplace I can see a flow chart of a default setup? and how to follow the mail through the system? This would be extremely helpful. I can get you all of the

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-25 Thread Eric Shubert
Maxwell Smart wrote: This would be monitoring the /var/log/qmail/imap/current file or looking at the contents in /var/log/qmail/imap correct? # qmlog -f imap4 # qmlog -f imap4-ssl (depending on which you use) OK, I'll follow up on both suggestions later. I have some fabrication work that

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-25 Thread Jake Vickers
Eric Shubert wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: This would be monitoring the /var/log/qmail/imap/current file or looking at the contents in /var/log/qmail/imap correct? # qmlog -f imap4 # qmlog -f imap4-ssl (depending on which you use) OK, I'll follow up on both suggestions later. I have some

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-25 Thread Eric Shubert
Jake Vickers wrote: Eric Shubert wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: This would be monitoring the /var/log/qmail/imap/current file or looking at the contents in /var/log/qmail/imap correct? # qmlog -f imap4 # qmlog -f imap4-ssl (depending on which you use) OK, I'll follow up on both suggestions

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-25 Thread Maxwell Smart
I am not quite sure what I am looking for so here goes. The first is qmlog -f imap The second is qmlog -f smtp. You can see the login to send the email and the times are identical. I then switched folders causing it to login again and no mail. I have checked a couple of times and no go. I

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-25 Thread Eric Shubert
Hey Max, I'm working this with someone else who appears to have the same symptoms. It's still a mystery, but we're testing some things out. We'll let you know when we find something, hopefully soon. Maxwell Smart wrote: I am not quite sure what I am looking for so here goes. The first is

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-25 Thread Maxwell Smart
Sounds good. FWIW I just did a telnet to my IMAP and it worked as expected with no delays. It's actually CJ Eric, Maxwell Smart is an alias that just stuck from Win95 days. :) Eric Shubert wrote: Hey Max, I'm working this with someone else who appears to have the same symptoms. It's still

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-25 Thread Eric Shubert
Ok CJ. I really like Max Smart though, from the old TV series. Used to watch it all the time. Anywise, try this: # qmailctl stop # queue_repair.py -r # qmailctl start I think you'll like it. Please report the output of the queue_repair.py command. I think you'll see some errors fixed there.

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-25 Thread Maxwell Smart
That fixed it. I had this problem once before with my old q mail rocks install. That time it was my fault messing around with the queue while it was running. Not sure what caused it this time. You're showing your age now! Cheers all thanks for all your efforts. CJ Eric Shubert wrote: Ok

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-25 Thread Maxwell Smart
BTW, I'll answer to either. :) Did you find out what caused the queue to get hosed? Eric Shubert wrote: Ok CJ. I really like Max Smart though, from the old TV series. Used to watch it all the time. Anywise, try this: # qmailctl stop # queue_repair.py -r # qmailctl start I think you'll

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-25 Thread Eric Shubert
Nope. Usually operator error. ;) Maxwell Smart wrote: BTW, I'll answer to either. :) Did you find out what caused the queue to get hosed? Eric Shubert wrote: Ok CJ. I really like Max Smart though, from the old TV series. Used to watch it all the time. Anywise, try this: # qmailctl stop #

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-25 Thread Maxwell Smart
I am not sure what operator error could have caused this. The fact that it happened to both toasters is odd too.I could see this happening to one. What was the case with your client that was experiencing the same issue? When using the qtp-newmodel it stops and starts the toaster as needed

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-25 Thread Eric Shubert
Maxwell Smart wrote: I am not sure what operator error could have caused this. The fact that it happened to both toasters is odd too.I could see this happening to one. What was the case with your client that was experiencing the same issue? We don't know the cause. When using the

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-25 Thread Maxwell Smart
I did update both machines recently. Not sure if that had anything to do with it or just coincidence. I am glad it's all back to normal. I did learn a whole load more about DNS, and here I was actually thinking I had a pretty good handle on it to begin with. @Jake I do like the idea of an

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-25 Thread Jake Vickers
Maxwell Smart wrote: I did update both machines recently. Not sure if that had anything to do with it or just coincidence. I am glad it's all back to normal. I did learn a whole load more about DNS, and here I was actually thinking I had a pretty good handle on it to begin with. @Jake I do

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-25 Thread Eric Shubert
Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: I did update both machines recently. Not sure if that had anything to do with it or just coincidence. I am glad it's all back to normal. I did learn a whole load more about DNS, and here I was actually thinking I had a pretty good handle on it to

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-25 Thread Jake Vickers
Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Glad to see you got it all figured out. Actually the requests are more trouble than setting up an archive would be. That's just a matter of copying the files into a directory and adding a link on the site. I have to tar/gz and copy them to the web dir

[qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-24 Thread Maxwell Smart
Eric Shubert wrote: I don't see any highlighting. Please post to the list. There are many more eyes there. :) Maxwell Smart wrote: Eric, OK, I have been watching the log with tail -f /var/log/qmail/smtp/current I don't see anything out of the ordinary. Look at the times with the

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-24 Thread Eric Shubert
Those are 2 different messages. Let's back up a little bit. Please explain again what you're seeing that's leading you to conclude that there are delays. Maxwell Smart wrote: Eric Shubert wrote: I don't see any highlighting. Please post to the list. There are many more eyes there. :)

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-24 Thread Maxwell Smart
If I send an e mail to myself whether from a local account ie. c...@yother.com to c...@yother.com or from cjyot...@pacbell.net to c...@yother.com and vice versa it takes anywhere from 5 minutes to 20 minutes for the e mail to arrive. This occurs whether I use Thunderbird (IMAP), Squirrelmail or

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-24 Thread Eric Shubert
Ok. Let's keep things as simple as possible, and look at an email from c...@yother.com and to c...@yother.com. Can you post the message headers of the received message? Maxwell Smart wrote: If I send an e mail to myself whether from a local account ie. c...@yother.com to c...@yother.com or

RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-24 Thread Michael Colvin
@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay If I send an e mail to myself whether from a local account ie. c...@yother.com to c...@yother.com or from cjyot...@pacbell.net to c...@yother.com and vice versa it takes anywhere from 5 minutes to 20 minutes for the e mail

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-24 Thread Eric Shubert
Services www.norcalisp.com -Original Message- From: Maxwell Smart [mailto:c...@yother.com] Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 4:00 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay If I send an e mail to myself whether from a local

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-24 Thread Maxwell Smart
in the past. Michael J. Colvin NorCal Internet Services www.norcalisp.com -Original Message- From: Maxwell Smart [mailto:c...@yother.com] Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 4:00 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-24 Thread Jake Vickers
Maxwell Smart wrote: Here is the header. Content-Filter: maildrop-toaster Return-Path: c...@yother.com Delivered-To: yother.com...@yother.com Received: (qmail 9496 invoked by uid 89); 24 Sep 2009 23:30:58 - Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 9488, pid: 9492, t: 0.0154s scanners: attach:

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-24 Thread Eric Shubert
Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: Here is the header. Content-Filter: maildrop-toaster Return-Path: c...@yother.com Delivered-To: yother.com...@yother.com Received: (qmail 9496 invoked by uid 89); 24 Sep 2009 23:30:58 - Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 9488, pid: 9492, t: 0.0154s

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-24 Thread Maxwell Smart
OK, I'll do that. I can get the log snippet by watching this tail -f /var/log/qmail/smtp/current correct? This is what I get when sending. It appears almost instantly. @40004abc207139fae734 tcpserver: pid 15694 from 192.168.0.2

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-24 Thread Eric Shubert
Maxwell Smart wrote: OK, I'll do that. I can get the log snippet by watching this tail -f /var/log/qmail/smtp/current correct? If you use qmlog, you'd see the times clearly. ;) # qmlog -f smtp You really want to use qmlog. Trust me on this. It's a powerful tool. This is what I get when

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-24 Thread Jake Vickers
Eric Shubert wrote: Since you have two mail servers, send a message from the one that has the LEAST amount of traffic, and send a message to the other one. While you do this, grab both the send log from the sending server and the SMTP log from the receiving server and post those so we can

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-24 Thread Maxwell Smart
OK, a little more info. Both of my servers are experiencing the same delay. I sent an e mail from server 1 to server 2 I immediately saw it in the tail -f /var/log/qmail/smtp/current logs, but not in server 2 current logs. I did a qmailctl restart on server 1 and it then appeared in server 2's

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-24 Thread Jake Vickers
Maxwell Smart wrote: OK, a little more info. Both of my servers are experiencing the same delay. I sent an e mail from server 1 to server 2 I immediately saw it in the tail -f /var/log/qmail/smtp/current logs, but not in server 2 current logs. I did a qmailctl restart on server 1 and it then

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay

2009-09-24 Thread Maxwell Smart
The activity I see when I tail -f /var/log/qmail/smtp/current is what I mean. Is there someplace I can see a flow chart of a default setup? and how to follow the mail through the system? This would be extremely helpful. I can get you all of the detail you need, but I need to know where to