Re: [qmailtoaster] Slow connection and transaction times

2020-01-02 Thread Angus McIntyre
As Eric correctly guessed, it's linked to the 'greeting-delay-secs' 
setting in Spamdyke. I was able to confirm this by changing the value of 
the setting and retesting. The times reported by the testing tool 
closely matched the values that I entered for 'greeting-delay-secs'. 
(Pro tip: you can significantly reduce the load on your mail server by 
setting 'greeting-delay-secs' to 30 seconds or more. Of course, you'll 
also never receive any mail ever again, but hey, there's always a 
tradeoff).


The Spamdyke documentatation:

   https://www.spamdyke.org/documentation/README.html#EARLYTALKERS

suggests that it's still useful to set this parameter to a non-zero 
value, so I think I'll probably leave it at the default.


Angus


On 2020-01-02 13:18, Andrew Swartz wrote:

Are you using Spamdyke?  If so, depending upon configuration, it does
several DNS queries prior to passing the connection to qmail-smtpd.

On mine, it does reverse DNS lookup, checks several DNS blacklists,
etc.  That could easily account for the delayed smtp response.

You could test this by temporarily deactivating Spamdyke and seeing if
that speeds it up.


-Andy



On 12/31/2019 4:41 AM, Angus McIntyre wrote:

Hmm.

MXToolbox reports that it takes 6 seconds for my server to respond to
SMTP connections.

spamdyke's 'greeting-delay-secs' is set to 6 seconds.

Well, there's a coincidence. ;-)

Thanks, Eric -- should have thought of that.

Anyone have any intuitions about how effective greeting-delay is as an
anti-spam tactic, and whether it has any impact on real mail?

Angus



On 2019-12-31 04:57, Eric Broch wrote:

If you have spamdyke installed it may have a timer
(greeting-delay-secs=) to inhibit spammers.

On 12/31/2019 2:54 AM, Angus McIntyre wrote:

I'm testing a newly-built mail server, and the tool at:

https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx

reports very slow connection and transaction times (approx. 6
seconds and 8 seconds respectively). The server is on a reasonably
powerful and very lightly-loaded VM.

Are these times typical? (I notice that my existing server is
similarly slow). Does qmailtoaster tarpit incoming connections as an
anti-spam measure? Or does this indicate a possible problem
somewhere that I ought to fix?

Thanks,

Angus

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Slow connection and transaction times

2020-01-02 Thread Andrew Swartz
Are you using Spamdyke?  If so, depending upon configuration, it does
several DNS queries prior to passing the connection to qmail-smtpd.

On mine, it does reverse DNS lookup, checks several DNS blacklists,
etc.  That could easily account for the delayed smtp response.

You could test this by temporarily deactivating Spamdyke and seeing if
that speeds it up.


-Andy



On 12/31/2019 4:41 AM, Angus McIntyre wrote:
> Hmm.
>
> MXToolbox reports that it takes 6 seconds for my server to respond to
> SMTP connections.
>
> spamdyke's 'greeting-delay-secs' is set to 6 seconds.
>
> Well, there's a coincidence. ;-)
>
> Thanks, Eric -- should have thought of that.
>
> Anyone have any intuitions about how effective greeting-delay is as an
> anti-spam tactic, and whether it has any impact on real mail?
>
> Angus
>
>
>
> On 2019-12-31 04:57, Eric Broch wrote:
>> If you have spamdyke installed it may have a timer
>> (greeting-delay-secs=) to inhibit spammers.
>>
>> On 12/31/2019 2:54 AM, Angus McIntyre wrote:
>>> I'm testing a newly-built mail server, and the tool at:
>>>
>>> https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx
>>>
>>> reports very slow connection and transaction times (approx. 6
>>> seconds and 8 seconds respectively). The server is on a reasonably
>>> powerful and very lightly-loaded VM.
>>>
>>> Are these times typical? (I notice that my existing server is
>>> similarly slow). Does qmailtoaster tarpit incoming connections as an
>>> anti-spam measure? Or does this indicate a possible problem
>>> somewhere that I ought to fix?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Angus
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Slow connection and transaction times

2019-12-31 Thread Angus McIntyre

Hmm.

MXToolbox reports that it takes 6 seconds for my server to respond to 
SMTP connections.


spamdyke's 'greeting-delay-secs' is set to 6 seconds.

Well, there's a coincidence. ;-)

Thanks, Eric -- should have thought of that.

Anyone have any intuitions about how effective greeting-delay is as an 
anti-spam tactic, and whether it has any impact on real mail?


Angus



On 2019-12-31 04:57, Eric Broch wrote:

If you have spamdyke installed it may have a timer
(greeting-delay-secs=) to inhibit spammers.

On 12/31/2019 2:54 AM, Angus McIntyre wrote:

I'm testing a newly-built mail server, and the tool at:

https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx

reports very slow connection and transaction times (approx. 6 seconds 
and 8 seconds respectively). The server is on a reasonably powerful 
and very lightly-loaded VM.


Are these times typical? (I notice that my existing server is 
similarly slow). Does qmailtoaster tarpit incoming connections as an 
anti-spam measure? Or does this indicate a possible problem somewhere 
that I ought to fix?


Thanks,

Angus

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Slow connection and transaction times

2019-12-31 Thread Eric Broch
If you have spamdyke installed it may have a timer 
(greeting-delay-secs=) to inhibit spammers.


On 12/31/2019 2:54 AM, Angus McIntyre wrote:

I'm testing a newly-built mail server, and the tool at:

https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx

reports very slow connection and transaction times (approx. 6 seconds 
and 8 seconds respectively). The server is on a reasonably powerful 
and very lightly-loaded VM.


Are these times typical? (I notice that my existing server is 
similarly slow). Does qmailtoaster tarpit incoming connections as an 
anti-spam measure? Or does this indicate a possible problem somewhere 
that I ought to fix?


Thanks,

Angus

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