Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Antw: Re: General Questions to help complete our product review...
The Java backend was only for demonstrating purpose. I just tried to propose my opinion, that the choice of a hosting service most likely depends on the backend implementation / technology stack. >>> Derrell Lipman 2/2/2011 5:02 >>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:49, Robert Nimax wrote: Ok, I think the word "backend" can be misunderstood. I meant this one : http://qooxdoo.org/contrib/project/rpcjava If you want to use this rpc mechanism you will have to deploy the WAR-File to a Java EE servlet container. Nope. If you want to use the *Java* RPC backend, then you need to deploy those appropriate files for use with Java. There are numerous RPC backends, written in various languages, and a backend developer's guide showing how to create one's own backend in what ever language one wants. Derrell -- Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d___ qooxdoo-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/qooxdoo-devel
Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Antw: Re: General Questions to help complete our product review...
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:49, Robert Nimax wrote: > Ok, I think the word "backend" can be misunderstood. > I meant this one : http://qooxdoo.org/contrib/project/rpcjava > If you want to use this rpc mechanism you will have to deploy the WAR-File > to a Java EE servlet container. > Nope. If you want to use the *Java* RPC backend, then you need to deploy those appropriate files for use with Java. There are numerous RPC backends, written in various languages, and a backend developer's guide showing how to create one's own backend in what ever language one wants. Derrell -- Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d___ qooxdoo-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/qooxdoo-devel
Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Antw: Re: General Questions to help complete our product review...
Ok, I think the word "backend" can be misunderstood. I meant this one : http://qooxdoo.org/contrib/project/rpcjava If you want to use this rpc mechanism you will have to deploy the WAR-File to a Java EE servlet container. >>> Fritz Zaucker 2/2/2011 4:37 >>> The "qooxdoo backend"? There is no such beast. Qooxdoo can talk to whatever backend you need. We use Perl for our applications, others use PHP, others use node.js (I believe) and some people might use Java. Cheers, Fritz On Wed, 2 Feb 2011, Robert Nimax wrote: > Hi, > you are thinking about the backend when you are talking about > "qooxdoo-aware hosting services", aren´t you ? > As far as I know the qooxdoo backend is implemented in java so you need > a servlet container like Tomcat or Jetty. > Well, in Germany it is quite easy and cheap to get a simple hosting > service for the Apache Web Server having PHP- or CGI-like-modules, but I > don´t know what about a servlet container. It is possible, that a cloud > computing platform like EC2 or Azure is the best solution for that > issue. > So I think it depends on the backend you will be using, the frontend > should not influence the choice of a hosting service. > > HTH, > Rob. > Fritz Zaucker 2/2/2011 4:10 >>> > Hi, > > On Wed, 2 Feb 2011, gkoller wrote: > >> 2. I also want to verify as part of our study if there are Hosting >> centers that are "quoxdoo aware" - maybe even specialize (or at > least >> know of these apps) in these apps. We are in mid-west USA >> -Minneapolis is nearest big city. > > I don't really know what you expect from a qooxdoo aware hosting > center. > There is not really anything special you'd need for hosting a qooxdoo > application as far as I can see. > >> (Maybe also mention developer friendly host(s) you know of in Europe > also.) > > We are hosting websites/applications for our customers. And as we also > develop applications with Qooxdoo, I guess I would call us "developer" > friendly. > > We are located in Switzerland, Europe, Planet Earth ... > >> 3. Is the new Quoxdoo book really different material than your > manual and >> API documentation from your site? Any comment on it greatly > appreciated. > > There is a Qooxdoo book? > > As with all books, I guess it will be outdated fairly quickly, at least > as > far as the more current improvements/features are concerned. > >> PS I have been at this study for weeks now and have considered > fairly >> seriously about 5 Frameworks and looked at many more. Let me say it > is >> MOST REFRESHING to have a download that actually is coordinated well > with >> documentation and a product that works. > > That I would certainly confirm for Qooxdoo. > > Cheers, > Fritz > -- Oetiker+Partner AGtel: +41 62 775 9903 (direct) Fritz Zaucker+41 62 775 9900 (switch board) Aarweg 15+41 79 675 0630 (mobile) CH-4600 Olten fax: +41 62 775 9905 Schweiz web: www.oetiker.ch -- Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d___ qooxdoo-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/qooxdoo-devel
Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Antw: Re: General Questions to help complete our product review...
The "qooxdoo backend"? There is no such beast. Qooxdoo can talk to whatever backend you need. We use Perl for our applications, others use PHP, others use node.js (I believe) and some people might use Java. Cheers, Fritz On Wed, 2 Feb 2011, Robert Nimax wrote: Hi, you are thinking about the backend when you are talking about "qooxdoo-aware hosting services", aren´t you ? As far as I know the qooxdoo backend is implemented in java so you need a servlet container like Tomcat or Jetty. Well, in Germany it is quite easy and cheap to get a simple hosting service for the Apache Web Server having PHP- or CGI-like-modules, but I don´t know what about a servlet container. It is possible, that a cloud computing platform like EC2 or Azure is the best solution for that issue. So I think it depends on the backend you will be using, the frontend should not influence the choice of a hosting service. HTH, Rob. Fritz Zaucker 2/2/2011 4:10 >>> Hi, On Wed, 2 Feb 2011, gkoller wrote: 2. I also want to verify as part of our study if there are Hosting centers that are "quoxdoo aware" - maybe even specialize (or at least know of these apps) in these apps. We are in mid-west USA -Minneapolis is nearest big city. I don't really know what you expect from a qooxdoo aware hosting center. There is not really anything special you'd need for hosting a qooxdoo application as far as I can see. (Maybe also mention developer friendly host(s) you know of in Europe also.) We are hosting websites/applications for our customers. And as we also develop applications with Qooxdoo, I guess I would call us "developer" friendly. We are located in Switzerland, Europe, Planet Earth ... 3. Is the new Quoxdoo book really different material than your manual and API documentation from your site? Any comment on it greatly appreciated. There is a Qooxdoo book? As with all books, I guess it will be outdated fairly quickly, at least as far as the more current improvements/features are concerned. PS I have been at this study for weeks now and have considered fairly seriously about 5 Frameworks and looked at many more. Let me say it is MOST REFRESHING to have a download that actually is coordinated well with documentation and a product that works. That I would certainly confirm for Qooxdoo. Cheers, Fritz -- Oetiker+Partner AG tel: +41 62 775 9903 (direct) Fritz Zaucker+41 62 775 9900 (switch board) Aarweg 15+41 79 675 0630 (mobile) CH-4600 Olten fax: +41 62 775 9905 Schweiz web: www.oetiker.ch-- Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d___ qooxdoo-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/qooxdoo-devel
