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>From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed Feb 12 13:05:15 2003

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Re[2]: qpopper4.03 lock file - how to remove ?

[Alan Brown]

On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Kai Bleek wrote:

> referring to this rather old thread, I hope to get an answer ;-)

> So here my question:
> what exactly is the timeout value after which qpopper cleans up the
> ..pop zombies and where can I change it?

By default 600 seconds. This can be altered at compile time and by using
the -Q flag at startup.

> Besides, changing some smaller value, can this have some negative
> effect on longer POP-sessions?

Only for large messages on really slow links. Usually the clients will
abort well before qpopper's timeouts kick in.

AB

Re[2]: qpopper4.03 lock file - how to remove ?

[Kai Bleek]

Hi all,

referring to this rather old thread, I hope to get an answer ;-)

RG> Qpopper automatically times out an old session, so have the user try
RG> again in fifteen minutes, and all should be well.  Qpopper will pick 
RG> up the mail from the .pop.temp file and use it, so nothing should be 
RG> lost.

>>Must I set up a cron job (which ??) to check lock files and correct them ?

RG> No, this is not required.

>>Is there any kind of automatism build in in popper to correct this ?

RG> Yes.  Qpopper cleans up when it exits, and Qpopper reclaims locks 
RG> after a timeout.

So here my question:
what exactly is the timeout value after which qpopper cleans up the
..pop zombies and where can I change it?

Besides, changing some smaller value, can this have some negative
effect on longer POP-sessions?

Thanks in advance,
Kai

Re: qpopper4.03 lock file - how to remove ?

[Oliver Fleischmann]

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Randall Gellens wrote:

> At 7:05 AM +0200 4/23/02, Oliver Fleischmann wrote:
>
> >  But I
> >  didn't check this with those signal handling patches. I think I should do
> >  that...
>
> Yes, that would be a good idea.

Good news: Our qpopper 4.0.4 with signal handling patches now respects the
HUP signal and cleans up the spool as it is supposed to do.

Together with the fact that those patches reduce the number of hanging
processes significantly, I suggest including those patches into the next
release!


Have a nice weekend!
Oliver Fleischmann

Re: qpopper4.03 lock file - how to remove ?

[Kelly Kane]

At 12:06 PM -0700 4/23/02, Randall Gellens wrote:
>At 7:05 AM +0200 4/23/02, Oliver Fleischmann wrote:
>
>>  But I
>>  didn't check this with those signal handling patches. I think I should do
>>  that...
>
>Yes, that would be a good idea.

I thought that HUP generally (from my Linux/BSD exp.) was handled as 
a method to tell a process to rehash it's config file, and gracefully 
restart itself? kill  -15 (TERM) are what i always use to make 
software stop going, and is catchable, so it is handled to "stop 
working immediatly, but clean up on your way out".

Kelly

-- 
Kelly Kane
Claremont Unified School District

Re: qpopper4.03 lock file - how to remove ?

[Randall Gellens]

At 11:35 AM -0700 4/24/02, Kelly Kane wrote:

>  At 12:06 PM -0700 4/23/02, Randall Gellens wrote:
>>  At 7:05 AM +0200 4/23/02, Oliver Fleischmann wrote:
>>
>>>   But I
>>>   didn't check this with those signal handling patches. I think I should do
>>>   that...
>>
>>  Yes, that would be a good idea.
>
>  I thought that HUP generally (from my Linux/BSD exp.) was handled 
> as a method to tell a process to rehash it's config file, and 
> gracefully restart itself?

I think officially it's "hangup", meaning the dial-up modem 
connection with the user was disconnected (the phone hung up).  In 
the case of non-interactive daemon processes where there is no 
connection to a user, that sense of course doesn't apply, so it 
became a convenient way to tell the process to re-read its 
configuration file.  In Qpopper's case, there is a communication link 
to the user, and Qpopper does get a HUP signal when this goes away 
(on some flavors of Unix anyway), so Qpopper handles HUP by cleaning 
up and going away.

Re: qpopper4.03 lock file - how to remove ?

[Randall Gellens]

At 7:05 AM +0200 4/23/02, Oliver Fleischmann wrote:

>  But I
>  didn't check this with those signal handling patches. I think I should do
>  that...

Yes, that would be a good idea.

Re: qpopper4.03 lock file - how to remove ?

[Oliver Fleischmann]

On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Randall Gellens wrote:

> At 12:49 PM +0200 4/22/02, Oliver Fleischmann wrote:
>
> >  kill $PROCESS
>
> Try sending a HUP signal instead of KILL.  This should cause the
> process to clean up and terminate on its own, and thus eliminate the
> need to do anything with the temp files yourself.

It should, but it doesn't for me. HUP seems to be just ignored. But I
didn't check this with those signal handling patches. I think I should do
that...


Oliver

Re: qpopper4.03 lock file - how to remove ?

[Randall Gellens]

At 12:49 PM +0200 4/22/02, Oliver Fleischmann wrote:

>  kill $PROCESS

Try sending a HUP signal instead of KILL.  This should cause the 
process to clean up and terminate on its own, and thus eliminate the 
need to do anything with the temp files yourself.

Re: qpopper4.03 lock file - how to remove ?

[Randall Gellens]

At 9:59 AM + 4/22/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Im running qpopper 4.03 on a linux box.
>During fetching mail, my connection froze, and my mail server still
>holds the lock file .user.pop.

That is not normal.  Qpopper cleans up the temp file when it goes 
away (unless it is killed and doesn't have a chance).  Are you sure 
there is no Qpopper process active for the user?

If you are sure there is no Qpopper process active, yet the .user.pop 
file remains, then either the process was killed, or there is a bug 
in Qpopper that fails to clean up under whatever circumstance caused 
the session to end.

Can you reproduce this?  Does it happen for all users?

One thing to try is to apply the patches that Clifton posted here recently.

>No email can't be "popped" so far for this account (ok).. but when 
>is it going to work again ?

Qpopper automatically times out an old session, so have the user try 
again in fifteen minutes, and all should be well.  Qpopper will pick 
up the mail from the .pop.temp file and use it, so nothing should be 
lost.

>Must I set up a cron job (which ??) to check lock files and correct them ?

No, this is not required.

>Is there any kind of automatism build in in popper to correct this ?

Yes.  Qpopper cleans up when it exits, and Qpopper reclaims locks 
after a timeout.

Re: qpopper4.03 lock file - how to remove ?

[Oliver Fleischmann]

On 22 Apr 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> HI!
> Im running qpopper 4.03 on a linux box.
> During fetching mail, my connection froze, and my mail server still
> holds the lock file .user.pop.
> No email can't be "popped" so far for this account (ok).. but when is it going to 
>work again ?
> Must I set up a cron job (which ??) to check lock files and correct them ?

We use a cron-job like:

5 * * * * /root/adm/bin/findpoplock

and a shell script:

-- >O --
#!/bin/bash
#
# Steckengebliebene POP3-Locks finden
#
# 10.02.2002 ogfAuch Prozesse, die root gehoeren, werden gekillt
#

PFAD="/data/exim/mailboxes/"
TEMPFILE="/tmp/unlockpop.temp"
MONATE="Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec"

#
# Lockfiles aelter als $MAXAGE Minuten fuehren zur Alarmierung
# und spaeter evtl. zur automatischen Freigabe
#
MAXAGE=180

function unlockproc
{
   for I in `find $PFAD -iname '.*pop' -amin +$MAXAGE`; do
  KENNUNG=`echo "$I"|cut -b 23-28`
  PROCESS=`ps aux|grep popper|grep "^$KENNUNG"|cut -b 10-14`
  echo "Locked: $KENNUNG $PROCESS"
  kill $PROCESS
  /data/exim/bin/exim_lock /data/exim/mailboxes/$KENNUNG \
 "cat /data/exim/mailboxes/$KENNUNG \
  >> /data/exim/mailboxes/.$KENNUNG.pop ; \
 mv /data/exim/mailboxes/.$KENNUNG.pop \
  /data/exim/mailboxes/$KENNUNG ;  \
 chmod 600 /data/exim/mailboxes/$KENNUNG ; \
 chown $1.mail /data/exim/mailboxes/$KENNUNG"

  echo -e "\n\n"
   done

   for MON in $MONATE ; do
  for PROCESS in `ps aux|grep popper|grep "^root"|grep \
"$MON[0-9][0-9] "|cut -b 5-14`; do
 echo "Locked: root $PROCESS"
 kill $PROCESS
 echo -e "\n\n"
  done
   done
}

unlockproc >$TEMPFILE
if [ -s $TEMPFILE ]; then
   cat $TEMPFILE | mail -s "chlothar: unlockpop" $POSTMASTER
fi

-- >O --

> Is there any kind of automatism build in in popper to correct this ?

No.


Oliver

qpopper4.03 lock file - how to remove ?

[rk]

HI!
Im running qpopper 4.03 on a linux box.
During fetching mail, my connection froze, and my mail server still
holds the lock file .user.pop.
No email can't be "popped" so far for this account (ok).. but when is it going to work 
again ?
Must I set up a cron job (which ??) to check lock files and correct them ?
Is there any kind of automatism build in in popper to correct this ?
Im running qopper from xinedt with ca. 1000 successfull pop's a day, config as 
follows...

service pop3
{
instances  = 15
#log_on_success = HOST USERID DURATION EXIT
log_on_failure = RECORD
max_load   = 2
per_source = 5
cps= 10 10
flags   = REUSE NAMEINARGS NOLIBWRAP
socket_type = stream
protocol= tcp
wait= no
user= root
server  = /usr/sbin/tcpd
server_args = /usr/sbin/popper -s
}

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