Re: [QUAD-L] My introductions
Sharon writes: My name is Sharon I have a twin and have CerebralPalsy happened during birth I use a electric wheelchair to get around mostof the time My twin Sister Karen is okay,But she was the first born. My mom kept tellingdoctors there were 2 but they could only hear 1 heart beat so here I am. IBelieve that god put me onthis earth like I am for a good reason. Nice to meet you Sharon. BTW, I'm a twin too. I'm thebaby by six minutes. Keith/c4c5/NJ
[QUAD-L] Movie
Why is no one talking about this movie? I had no clue it portrayed disability in such a way. I was going to go see it, but not now. I don't want to give it away if you want to see it, but am wondering why the blatant inaccuracies and death is better than disabled viewpoint isn't getting more media coverage. Esp since the National Spinal Cord Injury Assoc. has come out against it. Maybe I'm late and it's already been discussed here? peaceandlovingkindness, River www.hodohio.com
Re: [QUAD-L] My introductions
Welcome Sharon: River, T-4 para 19 yrs post ;-) peaceandlovingkindness, River www.hodohio.com
Re: [QUAD-L] Hey! I was bounced again. Jim musta sip'd instead of puff'd
Hi Wheels, I was thinking the same thing. It seemed there have been a few members that haven't been around in awhile. I thought it may have been the heated discussions during the political season, but now I'm not so sure. I hope everyone thinks to look if they don't receive posts from the Q-List. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I am. But what about all those others who may not be that savvy and may not realize that they've been bounced or deleted without their knowledge.10 years go by and I've never been bounced and in the last couple of months, I've been deleted twice. Granted, I looked and realize that it might happen, but as always, I'm concerned about all those others who need this resource.Whew, lolWIn a message dated 1/28/05 4:15:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seems you're back! I think...With Love,CtrlAltDel aka Dave
Re: [QUAD-L] My introductions
Hi Sharon, Welcome to the Q-List. I, like you, believe everyone is on this earth for a good reason. I believe we all should do our best in everything we do because we may not understand the reason we're here, so we need to always do our best in the way we live. I hope to see more posts from you, and am glad you have joined the List! With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA Sharon Angelic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My name is Sharon I have a twin and have CerebralPalsy happened during birth I use a electric wheelchair to get around mostof the time My twin Sister Karen is okay,But she was the first born. My mom kept tellingdoctors there were 2 but they could only hear 1 heart beat so here I am. IBelieve that god put me onthis earth like I am for a good reason.HugsSharon- Original Message -From:Liz BottnerTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 6:07 PMSubject: Re: [DisabledUnity] Re: My introductionsHey Amanda,Welcome to the group. Your job sounds veryinteresting.My name is Liz, and I am a college student studyingboth Computer Science and Philosophy and Religion. I am totally blind,(have been since birth), andI'm one of a set of triplets. My to! tal blindness wasdue, in part, to my premature birth.I realize now that I never posted an intro onto thislist before, but I guess it's better late than never, right? :)Take care,Liz[EMAIL PROTECTED]Yahoo! Groups LinksList of 3 items. To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DisabledUnity/. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to theYahoo! Terms of Service.list end__ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
[QUAD-L] welcome
Hi Sharon, Welcome to the Q List One thing you will notice is that we are made up of all ages, personalities, stories, and advice. The one thing I like is we all understand and we listen to each other. It might be to complain about a bad day, the system, or a doctor. Don't be shocked about the topics that are discussed because it can be graphic,Thank goodness for this, I have learned more about me, than I ever been told from a medical person. Welcome to the group Kathy from Mississippi
[QUAD-L] (change) Pepsi and Coke and SCI
It's better if we all change the Subject Line with our messages. I thought maybe people were using Coke and Pepsi bfor their BP :-) - Original Message - From: Stacy Harim To: Lori Michaelson ; Quad Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Pepsi and Coke and SCI I started using when they came back from backorder. I ordered them and waited forever for them. I only ordered 2 pks of 10 because I wasn't sure if they would do any better for me than the average but they did great. When I went to order more again no one had them unless I got them from concepts and my God they charge more than allegro and express med. Both places sell them for 40 something bucks per 100. I lucked out when I was down to my last few they had them again so I went ahead and did it. I'll try not to let that happen again. They are a time saver therefore with my school schedule and the time I have to get up in the morning, a lifesaver. Stacy - Original Message - From: Lori Michaelson To: Quad Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Pepsi and Coke and SCI I guess I'm REALLY lucky. Nothing bothers my bowels. I can eat very little in 4 days and STILL go well. Or eat alot of salad, shredded wheat, etc and go normally. I can drink 4 glasses of prune juice and have no problems. But as soon as I say all this ... I'm jinxed. LOL Using those Enemeez and Rugby suppositories though, REALLY messed up my system. I wouldn't go after using one but would go unexpectedly the FOLLOWING night or the next in bed!It was horrid. Poor hubby. Thank God the bullets are back and I go in 30 minutes on schedule. Lori ---Original Message--- From: Stacy Harim Date: 01/27/05 16:28:37 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Pepsi and Coke and SCI I feel for you Jim. I love spicy food. It would be hard to give it up. I have noticed that what I eat depends on constancy. But then I can eat the foods that make me have looser stools if I eat another type of food within a day or two. I can't believe how much I have to watch the certain types of food I need to eat in order to have a successful bowel program. Stacy - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Pepsi and Coke and SCI Your not the only one that has bowel problems from eating certain foods Stacey. For the longest time I could never figure out why all of a sudden I will have bowel problems in bed. My wife figured out just a few weeks ago that if I have hot spicy Chinese food I will have diarrhea within 24-36 hours. We did an experiment after everything, down and sure enough I ended up going into bed after having spicy Chinese food. Everything has been going real well until a couple days ago when I had a really hot spicy barbecue sauce on my beef ribs. I never gave any thought to what I was eating until my wife made a comment about me messing the bed in a day or so. Well, sure enough it happened. Now, I'm not going to eat my spicy food to see if that is really the problem. Jim metal_friday_2.gif08_b_blue.gif
Re: [QUAD-L] Movie
What movie? - Original Message - From: River Wolfe To: Quad List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 6:58 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] Movie Why is no one talking about this movie? I had no clue it portrayed disability in such a way. I was going to go see it, but not now. I don't want to give it away if you want to see it, but am wondering why the blatant inaccuracies and "death is better than disabled" viewpoint isn't getting more media coverage. Esp since the National Spinal Cord Injury Assoc. has come out against it. Maybe I'm late and it's already been discussed here?peaceandlovingkindness,Riverwww.hodohio.com
Re: [QUAD-L] Movie
Million Dollar Baby, Baby. On Jan 29, 2005, at 11:49 AM, Greg wrote: x-tad-smallerWhat movie?/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smaller- Original Message -/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smaller /x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerFrom:/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller /x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerRiver Wolfe/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller /x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerTo:/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller /x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerQuad List/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller /x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerCc:/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller /x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller[EMAIL PROTECTED]/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller /x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerSent:/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller Saturday, January 29, 2005 6:58 AM/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerSubject:/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller [QUAD-L] Movie/x-tad-smaller Why is no one talking about this movie? I had no clue it portrayed disability in such a way. I was going to go see it, but not now. I don't want to give it away if you want to see it, but am wondering why the blatant inaccuracies and death is better than disabled viewpoint isn't getting more media coverage. Esp since the National Spinal Cord Injury Assoc. has come out against it. Maybe I'm late and it's already been discussed here? peaceandlovingkindness, River www.hodohio.com
Re: [QUAD-L] Movie
NO IT'S MY 1ST TIME HEARING ABOUT IT. On 1/29/05 8:58 AM, River Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is no one talking about this movie? I had no clue it portrayed disability in such a way. I was going to go see it, but not now. I don't want to give it away if you want to see it, but am wondering why the blatant inaccuracies and death is better than disabled viewpoint isn't getting more media coverage. Esp since the National Spinal Cord Injury Assoc. has come out against it. Maybe I'm late and it's already been discussed here? peaceandlovingkindness, River www.hodohio.com
Re: [QUAD-L] My introductions
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] My introductions Welcome Sharon, My name is Houston I always wanted a twin but God didnt want 2 curse the world with 2 me :) Im a C/6 C/7 from a gunshot wound in Aug. 98 On 1/28/05 8:20 PM, Sharon Angelic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My name is Sharon I have a twin and have Cerebral Palsy happened during birth I use a electric wheelchair to get around most of the time My twin Sister Karen is okay, But she was the first born. My mom kept telling doctors there were 2 but they could only hear 1 heart beat so here I am. I Believe that god put me on this earth like I am for a good reason. Hugs Sharon - Original Message - From: Liz Bottner To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [DisabledUnity] Re: My introductions Hey Amanda, Welcome to the group. Your job sounds very interesting. My name is Liz, and I am a college student studying both Computer Science and Philosophy and Religion. I am totally blind, (have been since birth), and I'm one of a set of triplets. My total blindness was due, in part, to my premature birth. I realize now that I never posted an intro onto this list before, but I guess it's better late than never, right? :) Take care, Liz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links List of 3 items . To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DisabledUnity/ . To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. list end __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
[QUAD-L] Queer disabled group
Title: Queer disabled group Is or rather whom on this list is also member of queer disabled? In queer are they referring 2 being GAY? Im not homophobic but Im not joining any group 4 gays when Im not gay. I dont necessarily see the relationship between being disabled and being queer... Just because Im disabled doesnt mean that I need 2 become a queer 2 get love. 1st let me stop and see if Im not going down the wrong street with this topic :)
[QUAD-L] QueerDisability · Queer and Disabled Community Discussion
Title: QueerDisability Queer and Disabled Community Discussion Is or rather whom on this list is also member of QueerDisability Queer and Disabled Community Discussion ? In queer are they referring 2 being GAY? Im not homophobic but Im not joining any group 4 gays when Im not gay. I dont necessarily see the relationship between being disabled and being queer... Just because Im disabled doesnt mean that I need 2 become a queer 2 get love. 1st let me stop and see if Im not going down the wrong street with this topic :)
[QUAD-L] Chat 2day
Title: Chat 2day If you're going 2 chat 2day let me know time Place is DisabledOfAmerica
Re: [QUAD-L] Phones!
Contact your phone company or your county social worker. They should be able to tell you exactly what is out there and you might even be able to qualify for a free phone. I have a phone that is voice-activated but I do not have it installed yet. My neighbor is a nurse and she made one phone call and I received it free. Jim
Re: [QUAD-L] My introductions
A welcome to the list Sharon. I'm Jim, a C-5/6, 4.5 years post quadriplegic. Don't be afraid to ask any questions. Jim
Re: [QUAD-L] Queer disabled group
I for one have no idea what you are talking about. Jim
RE:[QUAD-L] Queer disabled group
Title: RE:[QUAD-L] Queer disabled group Houston Where are you from? How old? Did you choose disability? Do you (anyone) choose to be queer AKA gay? regards, Cameron what are your deep-down, honest feelings? -Original Message- From: Houston809 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 12:47 PM To: quadlist Subject: [QUAD-L] Queer disabled group Is or rather whom on this list is also member of queer disabled? In queer are they referring 2 being GAY? Im not homophobic but Im not joining any group 4 gays when Im not gay. I dont necessarily see the relationship between being disabled and being queer... Just because Im disabled doesnt mean that I need 2 become a queer 2 get love. 1st let me stop and see if Im not going down the wrong street with this topic
Re: [QUAD-L] Night time
Jim,I am interested in to know how you are able to use two leg bags at the same time. The primary reason I do not use these type of bags is because they do not have enough volume capacity. Additionally, I used to lie back too much and my urine wasn't flowing downhill enough. This is one I used to have chronic UTIs. Now I wear a bed bag on the side of the chair. This bag has been cut down so I don't have excess tubing and am able to cover it sufficiently for aesthetic purposes.Billy[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also wear a condom catheter and have way over 50% success. I have my catheter changed every 36 hours or when needed. I am so diligent on telling my PCA is to make sure that my catheter is untwisted and that the tubing is run straight as possible. I also make sure that when I urinate while in my wheelchair that I am kept all the way forward to make sure everything flows downhill and I also where two 1000 CC leg bags. Jim Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'
Re: [QUAD-L] Movie
Hi River, I don't think it was just by accident that this twist comes in the last five minutes of the movie. Even if Mr. Eastwood had wanted to make a movie about the 'Right to Die' issue, he should nothave had the 'Mercy Killing' right after the accident withno life experiences to help the charactermake an informed decision. I don't understand why this questionhasn't been addressed morein the mainstream media or in the disability community. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA River Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is no one talking about this movie? I had no clue it portrayed disability in such a way. I was going to go see it, but not now. I don't want to give it away if you want to see it, but am wondering why the blatant inaccuracies and "death is better than disabled" viewpoint isn't getting more media coverage. Esp since the National Spinal Cord Injury Assoc. has come out against it. Maybe I'm late and it's already been discussed here?peaceandlovingkindness,Riverwww.hodohio.com
Re: [QUAD-L] Movie
Million Dollar Baby is up for several academy awards How sad and cruel for Clint Eastwood to be at it again in his disdain for people with disabilities in an attempt to seek sympathy for killers of people with disabilities... please read "Not Dead Yet's" review and view below. Daniese McMullin-Powell ADAPT Delaware Not Dead Yet, Delaware "Not Dead Yet Challenges Movie Critics, Eastwood"[Thanks to the National Disabled Students Union, http://www.disabledstudents.org/, for bringing this to JFA's attention.]A Press Release from Not Dead Yet:Disability Activists Call Chicago Movie Critics: Million Dollar BigotsJanuary 19, 2005 @ 6:00 p.m., 65 W. Jackson Blvd., ChicagoChicago disability activists will be protesting the bigotry and ignorance of the members of the Chicago Film Critics Association (CFCA). Virtually every critic in the association gave a rave review to Clint Eastwood's Million Dollar Baby, a film that promotes the killing of disabled people as the solution to the problem of disability.On Wednesday, January 19th, activists will picket and distribute protest leaflets outside of the Union League Club of Chicago. Attendees at the CFCA event will be met by activists from the Chicago disability rights community, protesting the bigotry and ignorance of Chicago movie critics. Ignorance and bigotry are the only explanations for the universal adoration expressed for a movie that is being called a corny, melodramatic assault on people with disabilities by one reviewer in the disability community.Roger Ebert, of the Chicago Sun-Times, has named it the number one movie of 2004. In fact, he seems to find new opportunities to promote the movie every couple of days. His TV partner, Richard Roeper, also gave the film an enthusiastic thumbs up.But like we said, they're not alone. Michael Wilmington of the Chicago Tribune gave it 4/4 stars.The vast majority of critics talk about the surprise ending without telling their readers and viewers what it is. It's simple: the surprise is that a young woman boxing star becomes disabled, and Eastwood's character (in a painful, self-sacrificing gesture), kills her.Its a pro-euthanasia movie. But they don't want you to go in expecting that to be the main message. But it's the romanticized killing at the end that makes the movie for most of the critics.We feel it's no coincidence that Eastwood is also a staunch opponent of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA). He's been sued - and lost - under the act in regard to a resort he owns. After his loss in the courts, he engaged in a legislative campaign to weaken the ADA, even giving testimony in Congress. His face is on the cover of a book on ADA backlash called "Make Them Go Away." This film appears to be his revenge on our community.Suppose instead Eastwood had been an active opponent of the civil rights of any minority other than people with disabilities. Suppose he'd been sued for race or gender discrimination at his resort instead of disability discrimination. And then suppose he'd made a movie manipulating the ! audience to sympathize with someone who killed a member of that group. We suspect the reactions of critics across the country would have been, pardon the _expression, critical.Not Dead Yet7521 Madison St.Forest Park, IL 60130Contact: Diane Coleman or Stephen Drake(708)209-1500; (708)420-0539 (cell)For more detailed analysis of the movie and its reviews, go to:http:www.raggededgemagazine.comGreg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What movie? - Original Message - From: River Wolfe To: Quad List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 6:58 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] Movie Why is no one talking about this movie? I had no clue it portrayed disability in such a way. I was going to go see it, but not now. I don't want to give it away if you want to see it, but am wondering why the blatant inaccuracies and "death is better than disabled" viewpoint isn't getting more media coverage. Esp since the National Spinal Cord Injury Assoc. has come out against it. Maybe I'm late and it's already been discussed here?peaceandlovingkindness,Riverwww.hodohio.com
Re: [QUAD-L] Movie
I did not read this response to closely because I have not seen the movie. However, knowing Mr. Eastwood's feelings on the disabled community it does not surprise me that he would rather have a person died than be disabled. I don't recall exactly the circumstances around what happened, but he was pushing for changes in the ADA because his newly renovated hotel was not in compliance. In my opinion he is a pompous uncaring ass that does not deserve any of my money. I will only watch this movie when it comes out on a channel which I have on my television package. Billy from Tampa C2-3 9 years post"David K. Kelmer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi River, I don't think it was just by accident that this twist comes in the last five minutes of the movie. Even if Mr. Eastwood had wanted to make a movie about the 'Right to Die' issue, he should nothave had the 'Mercy Killing' right after the accident withno life experiences to help the charactermake an informed decision. I don't understand why this questionhasn't been addressed morein the mainstream media or in the disability community. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA River Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is no one talking about this movie? I had no clue it portrayed disability in such a way. I was going to go see it, but not now. I don't want to give it away if you want to see it, but am wondering why the blatant inaccuracies and "death is better than disabled" viewpoint isn't getting more media coverage. Esp since the National Spinal Cord Injury Assoc. has come out against it. Maybe I'm late and it's already been discussed here?peaceandlovingkindness,Riverwww.hodohio.com Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'
[QUAD-L] Don't read if you see Million Dollar
It's a movie. Activists for the NOT Dead Yet and such are boiling over it. Have many of them seen it? I doubt it. It's like the Right screaming about Fahrenheit 911. Personally I'm waiting for Willy Wonka with Depp, but then the Right might make Willy Gay like Sponge Bob. Breathe-it's a movie. - Original Message - From: River Wolfe To: Quad List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 8:58 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] Movie Why is no one talking about this movie? I had no clue it portrayed disability in such a way. I was going to go see it, but not now. I don't want to give it away if you want to see it, but am wondering why the blatant inaccuracies and "death is better than disabled" viewpoint isn't getting more media coverage. Esp since the National Spinal Cord Injury Assoc. has come out against it. Maybe I'm late and it's already been discussed here?peaceandlovingkindness,Riverwww.hodohio.com
[QUAD-L] Queer and Disability
Title: RE:[QUAD-L] Queer & disabled group If you hit reply all to answer River's posts you will be adding your posts to that group. I doubt it goes through as I believe you have to sub to that list. So, Houston I hope that answers your question. - Original Message - From: Cameron Wallace To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 1:50 PM Subject: RE:[QUAD-L] Queer disabled group Houston Where are you from? How old? Did you choose disability? Do you (anyone) choose to be queer AKA gay? regards, Cameron what are your deep-down, honest feelings? -Original Message-From: Houston809 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 12:47 PMTo: quadlistSubject: [QUAD-L] Queer disabled groupIs or rather whom on this list is also member of queer disabled? In queer are they referring 2 being GAY? Im not homophobic but Im not joining any group 4 gays when Im not gay. I dont necessarily see the relationship between being disabled and being queer... Just because Im disabled doesnt mean that I need 2 become a queer 2 get love. 1st let me stop and see if Im not going down the wrong street with this topic
Re: [QUAD-L] Chat 2day
It's 3:00 P.M. and I'm there. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA Houston809 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're going 2 chat 2day let me know timePlace is DisabledOfAmerica
Re: [QUAD-L] Night time
Billy, I sent my son to the auto store to find a plastic tee and a 90 degree elbow that would be used for vacuum lines on vehicles. He could not find a 90 degree elbow so he purchased two plastic tees. I had him lay two 1000 CC leg bags side-by-side. We took short pieces of latex tubing and connected to the two bags together. The tee that is not connected to your catheter, must have a short piece of latex tubing long enough to be folded over and taped to prevent the urine from flowing out the top. You can also purchase a plastic or rubber cap that fits over the end of the tee from the auto parts store.I can tell whenI have to urinate so, I make sure I tilt myself down so theurine flows downhill as much as possible.I have my leg bags strapped to my shin down by my ankle. Here is asimple diagram. Jim inline: Untitled.jpg
Re: [QUAD-L] Queer and Disability
OOOps, so sorry folks I didn't realize that was happening. You have to sub to the list, so don't worry you won't get queer gay stuff (not that it would hurt you). By, R On Jan 29, 2005, at 3:40 PM, Liz wrote: x-tad-smallerIf you hit /x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerreply all/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller to answer River's posts you will be adding your posts to that group. I doubt it goes through as I believe you have to sub to that list. So, Houston I hope that answers your question./x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller- Original Message -/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smaller /x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerFrom:/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller /x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerCameron Wallace/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller /x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerTo:/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller /x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerquad-list@eskimo.com/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller /x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerSent:/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller Saturday, January 29, 2005 1:50 PM/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerSubject:/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller RE:[QUAD-L] Queer disabled group/x-tad-smaller Houston Where are you from? How old? Did you choose disability? Do you (anyone) choose to be queer AKA gay? regards, Cameron what are your deep-down, honest feelings? x-tad-smaller-Original Message-/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerFrom:/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller Houston809 [/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller]/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerSent:/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller Saturday, January 29, 2005 12:47 PM/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerTo:/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller quadlist/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerSubject:/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller [QUAD-L] Queer disabled group/x-tad-smallerIs or rather whom on this list is also member of queer disabled? In queer are they referring 2 being GAY? Im not homophobic but Im not joining any group 4 gays when Im not gay. I dont necessarily see the relationship between being disabled and being queer... Just because Im disabled doesnt mean that I need 2 become a queer 2 get love. 1st let me stop and see if Im not going down the wrong street with this topic
RE: [QUAD-L] Queer and Disability
Title: Message whew! that was a close one ;) -Original Message-From: River Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 6:38 PMTo: Quad ListSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Queer and DisabilityOOOps, so sorry folks I didn't realize that was happening. You have to sub to the list, so don't worry you won't get queer gay stuff (not that it would hurt you).By,ROn Jan 29, 2005, at 3:40 PM, Liz wrote: If you hit reply all to answer River's posts you will be adding your posts to that group. I doubt it goes through as I believe you have to sub to that list. So, Houston I hope that answers your question. - Original Message -From: Cameron Wallace To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 1:50 PMSubject: RE:[QUAD-L] Queer disabled groupHouston Where are you from? How old? Did you choose disability? Do you (anyone) choose to be queer AKA gay? regards, Cameron what are your deep-down, honest feelings? -Original Message- From: Houston809 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 12:47 PM To: quadlist Subject: [QUAD-L] Queer disabled group Is or rather whom on this list is also member of queer disabled? In queer are they referring 2 being GAY? Im not homophobic but Im not joining any group 4 gays when Im not gay. I dont necessarily see the relationship between being disabled and being queer... Just because Im disabled doesnt mean that I need 2 become a queer 2 get love. 1st let me stop and see if Im not going down the wrong street with this topic
[QUAD-L] Re: [QUAD-L] QueerDisability · Queer and Disabled Community Discussion
Title: QueerDisability · Queer and Disabled Community Discussion Why would anyone assume that you had to become queer? Are you getting messages that suggest so? I hardly think that someone chooses to become gay, disabled or not. Stacy - Original Message - From: Houston809 To: quadlist Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 12:49 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] QueerDisability · Queer and Disabled Community Discussion Is or rather whom on this list is also member of QueerDisability · Queer and Disabled Community Discussion ? In queer are they referring 2 being GAY? Im not homophobic but Im not joining any group 4 gays when Im not gay. I dont necessarily see the relationship between being disabled and being queer... Just because Im disabled doesnt mean that I need 2 become a queer 2 get love. 1st let me stop and see if Im not going down the wrong street with this topic :)
[QUAD-L] MDBaby review
This is an audio review of DavidEdelstein on NPR, very insightful. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4469981 R
[QUAD-L] chat/public trans/school
I don't think you all are going to see much of me in there. School has now started back up and I have a pretty hard schedule. I don't know how active I will be with the list either. I had transcript issues and stuck having the earliest classes. I think it will be all I have just to handle the classes. Mon, Wed, and Fri, I have an 8 oclock class and I since I rely on the most unreliable public transportation, I am getting picked up at 6:30 when the school is 40 mins away with the time it takes to tie or lock me down in the bus. The transit charges double for disabled who require door to door. In the fixed rides that AB's take, the cost of the ride is 2 dollars and an additional dollar if they need to transfer. If they live on an off beaten path more than 3/4 of a mile they can get a ride to the bus stop for an additional dollar. Disabled who require curb to curb service have to pay double what AB's pay. I have curb to curb service and still pay as I live in a rural area and hardly live in a rural area. I'm fighting hard about that as I live a half mile from the highway. That's hardly rural. I then have to pay for transfer points that I don't use because I ride directly. I ride directly there and directly back. Before the tri county govt. took over I was taking a different company for school and only paying 4 dollars no matter what. Now I am paying6 or more each way. I tried to get a ride for Monday but couldn't get a hold of anyone to schedule it on Friday. My van is tagged and ready to get the work on the modifications however the man from voc rehab that was supposed to come go over the stuff for the test when I was approved from the DMV is on medical leave and I now have to wait until April to do so. That will make it over a year and a half since I have been working with voc rehab to get my license. The sad thing is that my license from before I got sick is still valid. How much trouble would I get into for using that to go down the street to practice my parking or driving around the neighborhood and practicing my 3pt turns at the dead ends? I'm pretty damn irritated with the whole system. Does anyone else have any problems like this with their public transportation? Stacy - Original Message - From: David K. Kelmer To: Houston809 ; quadlist Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Chat 2day It's 3:00 P.M. and I'm there. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA Houston809 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're going 2 chat 2day let me know timePlace is DisabledOfAmerica
Re: [QUAD-L] My introductions
Welcome Sharon I'm Mark a C5/6 ask anything there's some great people here. Mark ---Original Message--- From: Sharon Angelic Date: Friday, January 28, 2005 7:20:40 PM To: quad-list Subject: [QUAD-L] My introductions My name is Sharon I have a twin and have CerebralPalsy happened during birth I use a electric wheelchair to get around mostof the time My twin Sister Karen is okay,But she was the first born. My mom kept tellingdoctors there were 2 but they could only hear 1 heart beat so here I am. IBelieve that god put me onthis earth like I am for a good reason.HugsSharon- Original Message -From:Liz BottnerTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 6:07 PMSubject: Re: [DisabledUnity] Re: My introductionsHey Amanda,Welcome to the group. Your job sounds veryinteresting.My name is Liz, and I am a college student studyingboth Computer Science and Philosophy and Religion. I am totally blind,(have been since birth), andI'm one of a set of triplets. My total blindness wasdue, in part, to my premature birth.I realize now that I never posted an intro onto thislist before, but I guess it's better late than never, right? :)Take care,Liz[EMAIL PROTECTED]Yahoo! Groups LinksList of 3 items.. To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DisabledUnity/.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED].. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to theYahoo! Terms of Service.list end__ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250.
Re: [QUAD-L] Queer and Disability
Title: Message River, If you use blind copy, you can still write once and send it to as many places you like.Then when we hit reply all, it won't go anywhere but to this list. No biggie really. Stacy
[QUAD-L] RE: Queer disabled
What is the big deal about being Gay and disabled. I've had many emails that are the same words, do you not know how to copy and paste and why not quit repeating what someone else has already said. I'm sure there are many disabled people that may be gay but that is the lifestyle they choose. As for this movie business, if this is how Clint Eastwood really feels..it will come back to haunt him. My son John who had the stroke was told by his Dr that " he would rather die than live as a quad" but my son believes that would be suicide and chose to live. God gave him another chance to recover and become a Christian. Last year he became a Christian and was baptized in the local rehab's heated pool. Carol in KY
[QUAD-L] re: movie
I think the motto should be " Better disabled than Dead". At least you have a chance to recover and live a near normal life if you live at home with relatives. But the medical community doesn't see it this way. I getting ready a packet of info to send to Dr Huang in Beijing China. I have contacted them and they wont my son's latest MRI and current condition from his Dr's. Then they will see if they can help him. It is thru stem cell operation. It may not be right for some people but I have no objections to it. Anything to get him up and about again as I am getting too old to care for him and I don't want to see him put in a nursing home for 20 or 30 years. Carol in Ky
