Re: [QUAD-L] Movie

2017-08-09 Thread Jeffrey Gaede
I think you'll like it. If not, I think someone else suggested it

  From: Ron M Pracht <qua...@yahoo.com>
 To: Quad-list Post <quad-list@eskimo.com> 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 7:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie
   
Im trusting you guys. I bought it for 4.01 shipped from ebay. Thanks
Ron c7 st louis 

On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 7:04 PM, Carolyn Boyles <cboy...@swbell.net> 
wrote:
 

 My husband and I like Netflix online. It's like nine bucks a month. It's 
preinstalled on our TV also.

Carolyn



   

   

Re: [QUAD-L] Movie

2017-08-09 Thread Ron M Pracht
Im trusting you guys. I bought it for 4.01 shipped from ebay. Thanks
Ron c7 st louis 

On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 7:04 PM, Carolyn Boyles  
wrote:
 

 My husband and I like Netflix online. It's like nine bucks a month. It's 
preinstalled on our TV also.

Carolyn



   

Re: [QUAD-L] Movie

2017-08-09 Thread Carolyn Boyles
My husband and I like Netflix online. It's like nine bucks a month. It's 
preinstalled on our TV also.


Carolyn



Re: [QUAD-L] Movie

2017-08-09 Thread Bobbie Humphreys
I rented it from Netflix 
Bobbie 

"Be the change you want to see in the world". Gandhi

> On Aug 9, 2017, at 7:36 PM, Ron M Pracht  wrote:
> 
> Where did u watch the movie at? Whats the cheapest way to watch movies these 
> days?
> 
> Ron
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 12:06 PM, Bobbie Humphreys 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> "Rory O'Shea was here"
> I JUST watched that movie  last night!!
> 
> "Be the change you want to see in the world". Gandhi
> 
> > On Aug 8, 2017, at 9:48 PM, Larry Willis  wrote:
> > 
> > What is the movie about the young Irish lad who can only move one finger? 
> > He lives with a roommate that only he can understand. They have all kinds 
> > of crazy adventures together. It's a good one.
> > 
> > Sent from my iPad
> 
> 


Re: [QUAD-L] Movie

2017-08-09 Thread Ron M Pracht
Where did u watch the movie at? Whats the cheapest way to watch movies these 
days?
Ron 

On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 12:06 PM, Bobbie Humphreys 
 wrote:
 

 "Rory O'Shea was here"
I JUST watched that movie  last night!!

"Be the change you want to see in the world". Gandhi

> On Aug 8, 2017, at 9:48 PM, Larry Willis  wrote:
> 
> What is the movie about the young Irish lad who can only move one finger? He 
> lives with a roommate that only he can understand. They have all kinds of 
> crazy adventures together. It's a good one.
> 
> Sent from my iPad


   

Re: [QUAD-L] Movie

2017-08-09 Thread Bobbie Humphreys
"Rory O'Shea was here"
I JUST watched that movie  last night!!

"Be the change you want to see in the world". Gandhi

> On Aug 8, 2017, at 9:48 PM, Larry Willis  wrote:
> 
> What is the movie about the young Irish lad who can only move one finger? He 
> lives with a roommate that only he can understand. They have all kinds of 
> crazy adventures together. It's a good one.
> 
> Sent from my iPad



Re: [QUAD-L] Movie

2017-04-17 Thread Jim Lubin
I was looking forward to seeing this. Disappointing. All I kept thinking
while watching it was that I never have and never would treat my caregivers
that way. Trevor's character was such an ass pretending he was having
medical emergencies. The movie "Who's Driving Doug" had a similar storyline
and was much better. Also, the series "Legit" was better.

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 3:00 AM, HOSNI AL-KHATIB 
wrote:

> Hello My Friends
>
>
> I want to ask you about a movie called - The Fundamentals of Caring -
>
> If you watch it, what do you think about it, and did you like it?
>
>
> Thanks
>


Re: [QUAD-L] Movie.. you before me

2016-10-01 Thread Jim Lubin
Just watched it. As a romantic-comedy I really enjoyed it. It was mainly
the Lou character I enjoyed watching, so cheerful to watch.

I didn't like Will or the boyfriend Patrick. Will was what, only 2 yrs post
accident? Not that I would have made that choice. Is that actually a really
thing? I mean, Washington state has an assisted suicide law, but one needs
to have a terminal condition with less than 6 months to live. Neither
condition applied to Will's character.

Wish I had a cheery fun person like her to have around.

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 7:31 PM, Danny Hearn  wrote:

> I know Bobbie, that part I did not like because we need to fight for life
> as best we can and I say let God decide when it is our time. Dan H**
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 28, 2016 8:46 PM, Bobbie Humphreys <
> bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Dan, I just watched "Me Before You" last night.
> It seemed to me to be another "I want to die instead of living as a quad"
> movie. I'd like to see a positive spin on quad life.
> There are 2 that I know of, "Joni" and "The Other Side of the Mountain
> Part 2"
> Bobbie
>
> "You must fail in order to succeed"
>
> On Sep 28, 2016, at 8:40 PM, Danny Hearn  wrote:
>
> Me and wife just watched the movie..You before Me, we rented it from
> redboxwe both liked it but it was sad.   Dan H*
>
>
>
>


Re: [QUAD-L] Movie.. you before me

2016-09-28 Thread Danny Hearn
I know Bobbie, that part I did not like because we need to fight for life as 
best we can and I say let God decide when it is our time. Dan H** 

On Wednesday, September 28, 2016 8:46 PM, Bobbie Humphreys 
 wrote:
 

 Dan, I just watched "Me Before You" last night.It seemed to me to be another 
"I want to die instead of living as a quad" movie. I'd like to see a positive 
spin on quad life.There are 2 that I know of, "Joni" and "The Other Side of the 
Mountain Part 2" Bobbie

"You must fail in order to succeed"
On Sep 28, 2016, at 8:40 PM, Danny Hearn  wrote:


Me and wife just watched the movie..You before Me, we rented it from 
redboxwe both liked it but it was sad.   Dan H*


   

Re: [QUAD-L] Movie.. you before me

2016-09-28 Thread Bobbie Humphreys
Dan, I just watched "Me Before You" last night.
It seemed to me to be another "I want to die instead of living as a quad" 
movie. I'd like to see a positive spin on quad life.
There are 2 that I know of, "Joni" and "The Other Side of the Mountain Part 2" 
Bobbie

"You must fail in order to succeed"

> On Sep 28, 2016, at 8:40 PM, Danny Hearn  wrote:
> 
> Me and wife just watched the movie..You before Me, we rented it from 
> redboxwe both liked it but it was sad.   Dan H*


Re: [QUAD-L] Movie question

2014-12-16 Thread RONALD L PRACHT
sixth sense maybe 


On Monday, December 15, 2014 10:03 PM, Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com wrote:
  


Anybody remember the name of the movie with Bruce Willis (sp) who plays a 
psychiatrist whose wife is murdered and a little boy, co-star, says ... I see 
dead people.
Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

RE: [QUAD-L] Movie question

2014-12-16 Thread Danny Espinoza
The Sixth Sense-Danny


 Original Message 
Subject: [QUAD-L] Movie question
From: Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, December 15, 2014 8:03 pm
To: quad-list@eskimo.com

Anybody remember the name of the movie with Bruce Willis (sp) who plays a psychiatrist whose wife is murdered and a little boy, co-star, says "... I see dead people."
Bobbie 

Smile Everyday






Re: [QUAD-L] Movie question

2014-12-16 Thread Bob Vogel
The Sixth Sense.  There is a comedian that did a very funny riff on this 
premise.  In the movie
the boy always whispers I see dead people, the effect of the whisper pulls 
the audience in
and makes it more powerful.  The comedian does a how it would really play 
out, the key
phrase I see dead people is whispered and instead of Willis' psychiatrist 
character having
an important reaction he says What?  I didn't hear you, can you speak up!?  
The boy keeps
repeating the line, I see dead people in ever louder whispers, and Willis 
keeps saying What!!??
Still can't hear you. Finally saying something like, Look kid, for this to 
work out you have to speak
loud enough for me to hear…  Just cracked me up.

Bob V

On Dec 16, 2014, at 1:28 AM, RONALD L PRACHT wrote:

 sixth sense maybe
 
 
 On Monday, December 15, 2014 10:03 PM, Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 Anybody remember the name of the movie with Bruce Willis (sp) who plays a 
 psychiatrist whose wife is murdered and a little boy, co-star, says ... I 
 see dead people.
 Bobbie 
 
 Smile Everyday
 



Re: [QUAD-L] Movie question

2014-12-16 Thread Gmail
Thanks everybody 

Smile Everyday

 On Dec 16, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Danny Espinoza da...@immortaldesigns.co wrote:
 
 The Sixth Sense
 
 -Danny
  Original Message 
 Subject: [QUAD-L] Movie question
 From: Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, December 15, 2014 8:03 pm
 To: quad-list@eskimo.com
 
 Anybody remember the name of the movie with Bruce Willis (sp) who plays a 
 psychiatrist whose wife is murdered and a little boy, co-star, says ... I 
 see dead people.
 Bobbie 
 
 Smile Everyday


Re: [QUAD-L] Movie title help

2013-08-27 Thread Tim Thompson
Do you mean Rory O'Shea Was HereI've got it on DVD, STILL GET A TEAR NEAR
THE END.
TNT


On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 5:09 PM, lwillis...@yahoo.com wrote:

 My brain has hit a dead spot, guys, and I need yours. A few years ago
 there was an excellent movie about two young disabled guys. One had
 cerebral palsy and the other could only move one finger. He had blonde
 spiked hair and was the only one who could understand the other guy. I
 think it was an Irish film. The film's name was the same as spiked hair
 guy. This is a very well-known film, but I can't think of it to save my
 life. Help!

 Sent from my iPad

 Begin forwarded message:

 *Resent-From:* quad-list@eskimo.com
 *From:* bobbie...@aol.com
 *Date:* March 22, 2013, 3:48:12 PM EDT
 *To:* wheelch...@aol.com, Quad-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* *Re: [QUAD-L] Disability humor*


 Please Do Not Disturb Any Further


 Smile Everyday



 -Original Message-
 From: wheelchair wheelch...@aol.com
 To: bobbie299 bobbie...@aol.com; Quad-list Quad-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Fri, Mar 22, 2013 8:44 am
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Disability humor

 Yes.  me.  He Won't Git Fir
 Best Wishes

 In a message dated 3/21/2013 9:27:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
 bobbie...@aol.com writes:

 Hi   All,
Anybody ever read John Callahan's   disability comic's? I love his
 humor … got a few of his   books.
 Bobbie


 Smile Everyday





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 Freedom: United States Constitution© 1791 All Rights are not Preserved and
so Far only the 2nd is preserving our LIBERTY! It is under attack, but if
all the Citizens who took the OATH keep their sworn duty we can SAVE our
country OUR constitutional REPUBLIC from THE TYRANNY FROM WITHIN!
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Re: [QUAD-L] Movie title help

2013-08-27 Thread Gmail
I LOVE this movie. I also cry at the end.   Bobbie

Smile Everyday

On Aug 27, 2013, at 9:16 PM, Tim Thompson stu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you mean
 Rory O'Shea Was Here
 
 I've got it on DVD, STILL GET A TEAR NEAR THE END.
 TNT
 
 
 On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 5:09 PM, lwillis...@yahoo.com wrote:
 My brain has hit a dead spot, guys, and I need yours. A few years ago there 
 was an excellent movie about two young disabled guys. One had cerebral palsy 
 and the other could only move one finger. He had blonde spiked hair and was 
 the only one who could understand the other guy. I think it was an Irish 
 film. The film's name was the same as spiked hair guy. This is a very 
 well-known film, but I can't think of it to save my life. Help!
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
 From: bobbie...@aol.com
 Date: March 22, 2013, 3:48:12 PM EDT
 To: wheelch...@aol.com, Quad-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Disability humor
 
 
 Please Do Not Disturb Any Further
 
 
 Smile Everyday
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wheelchair wheelch...@aol.com
 To: bobbie299 bobbie...@aol.com; Quad-list Quad-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Fri, Mar 22, 2013 8:44 am
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Disability humor
 
 Yes.  me.  He Won't Git Fir
 Best Wishes
  
 In a message dated 3/21/2013 9:27:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
 bobbie...@aol.com writes:
 
 Hi   All,
Anybody ever read John Callahan's   disability comic's? I love his
 humor … got a few of his   books.
 Bobbie
 
 
 Smile Everyday
 
 
 
 -- 
  Freedom: United States Constitution© 1791 All Rights are not Preserved and 
 so Far only the 2nd is preserving our LIBERTY! It is under attack, but if all 
 the Citizens who took the OATH keep their sworn duty we can SAVE our country 
 OUR constitutional REPUBLIC from THE TYRANNY FROM WITHIN!
 Are you an internet Litterbug? http://nw-in.com/smartemail.html


Re: [QUAD-L] Movie title help

2013-03-22 Thread Nan
Rory O'Shea Was Here

Another good one!

Nan



 From: lwillis...@yahoo.com lwillis...@yahoo.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 6:09 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Movie title help
 

My brain has hit a dead spot, guys, and I need yours. A few years ago there was 
an excellent movie about two young disabled guys. One had cerebral palsy and 
the other could only move one finger. He had blonde spiked hair and was the 
only one who could understand the other guy. I think it was an Irish film. The 
film's name was the same as spiked hair guy. This is a very well-known film, 
but I can't think of it to save my life. Help!

Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:


Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
From: bobbie...@aol.com
Date: March 22, 2013, 3:48:12 PM EDT
To: wheelch...@aol.com, Quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Disability humor



Please Do Not Disturb Any Further


Smile Everyday



-Original Message-
From: wheelchair wheelch...@aol.com
To: bobbie299 bobbie...@aol.com; Quad-list Quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Mar 22, 2013 8:44 am
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Disability humor

Yes.  me.  He Won't Git Fir
Best Wishes
 
In a message dated 3/21/2013 9:27:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
bobbie...@aol.com writes:

Hi   All,
       Anybody ever read John Callahan's   disability comic's? I love his
humor … got a few of his   books.
Bobbie


Smile Everyday




Re: [QUAD-L] Movie The Session's

2012-10-30 Thread Quadius
I saw the previews the other day and thought it would be interesting.

On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Larry Willis lwillis82...@msn.com wrote:

 I had not heard of it, but the trailer on YouTube looks great. Thanks for
 guiding us to it. Quad buds, check it out.

 Sent from my iPad

 Begin forwarded message:

 *Resent-From:* quad-list@eskimo.comquad-list@eskimo.com
 *From:* Bobbie Humphreys bobbie...@aol.com
 *Date:* October 21, 2012 7:25:16 PM EDT
 *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* *[QUAD-L] Movie The Session's*

 Have any of you seen or heard of the movie The Session's? Baced on a
 quadriplegic looking to lose his virginity. Staring William H. Macy  Helen
 Hunt which opened Oct. 19th Bobbie

 Sent from my iPad




Re: [QUAD-L] Movie The Session's

2012-10-30 Thread Bobbie Humphreys
I am planning on seeing it if any of the movie house's have power.  Bobbie

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 30, 2012, at 5:32 PM, Quadius quad...@gmail.com wrote:

 I saw the previews the other day and thought it would be interesting.
 
 On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Larry Willis lwillis82...@msn.com wrote:
 I had not heard of it, but the trailer on YouTube looks great. Thanks for 
 guiding us to it. Quad buds, check it out.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
 From: Bobbie Humphreys bobbie...@aol.com
 Date: October 21, 2012 7:25:16 PM EDT
 To: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: [QUAD-L] Movie The Session's
 
 
 Have any of you seen or heard of the movie The Session's? Baced on a 
 quadriplegic looking to lose his virginity. Staring William H. Macy  Helen 
 Hunt which opened Oct. 19th Bobbie  
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 


Re: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

2005-08-05 Thread David K. Kelmer




Hi Stunt,

I do try to read the ''big city'' papersalong with my home town paper. Our hometown paper is owned by Scripps Howard News Service but is published by the Times Record News Staff of Wichita Falls.

I couldn't agree with you anymore about historical sites.I've contributedto the Wichita County Heritage Society in their 6.2 million dollarrestoration of the historical downtownHolt Hotel here in Wichita Falls.
http://www.timesrecordnews.com/trn/local_news/article/0,1891,TRN_5784_3953569,00.html 

It appears as though Mr. Eastwood alsoagrees with us. 

"I totally support the ADA laws. I think people not in complianceshould get into compliance," Eastwood said in a telephoneinterview Wednesday. But he added, "I think there should be abetter way to get people in compliance."http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36340


What Mr. Eastwood does have is a problem with are the lawyers filing suits under the ADA. "It's a racket", opines Eastwood. "The typical thing is to get someone who is disabled in collusion with sleazebag lawyers, and they file suits." Eastwood told the WSJ he isn't quarreling with the ADA itself, and the proposed legislation would affect only future cases and not the one against him; but "I just think for the benefit of everybody, they should cut out this racket because these are morally corrupt people who are doing this."(Jim VandeHei, "Clint Eastwood Saddles Up for Disability-Act Showdown", Wall Street Journal, May 9 -- online subscribers only). http://overlawyered.com/archives/00may2.html#000518b 


Here, I believe, both you and Iagree with Mr.Eastwood. Thousands of businesses have been hit with charges that their facilities are out of compliance with the ADA; most of the complaints can be traced to a small network of activists linked to lawyers who obtain legal fees typically in the thousands of dollars from defendants eager to settle.These suits weaken theability of any legitimate ADA lawsuits that do need to be addressed. It is the way in which this problem should be resolved the the disagreement seems to play out. One side see this as "a direct attack on the civil right of 56 million," the other side see itdifferently. "We say; if there are problems with lawyers and their ethical practices, don't fix the problems by eroding the civil rights of people with disabilities!"

"This proposed amendment is a direct attack on the civil rights of 56 million Americans with disabilities and must be stopped," said the National Council on Independent Living (NCIL) in a March 30 press release. "We say; if there are problems with lawyers and their ethical practices, don't fix the problems by eroding the civil rights of people with disabilities!" 
As HR 3690, the bill died quietly last year in spite of a great deal of attention given to it by the actor/director Clint Eastwood and, therefore, the mainstream media. In May, Eastwood testified before a U.S. House Judiciary Committee's Constitutional Subcommittee in support of ADA Notification. At that time, he was being sued by a woman who claimed that Eastwood's Mission Ranch Hotel in Carmel, California was not accessible to people who use wheelchairs. A jury in October determined that Eastwood was liable for three accessibility violations, but did not order him to pay damages. http://www.inclusiondaily.com/news/access/notification.htm#040401

Eastwood Found Liable For Not Providing AccessBy Dave Reynolds, Inclusion Daily ExpressOctober 2, 2000SAN JOSE, CALIFORNIA--On Friday, a jury decided that Clint Eastwood was liable for three violations regarding access at his Mission Ranch Inn, but did not order the actor/director to pay any damages to the woman who had sued him. 
After four hours of deliberations, the jury announced the verdict, in which it found that Eastwood's resort should provide a ramp to the registration office, a second accessible guest room and signs about the accessible restrooms -- which are 234 feet away. Eastwood said those changes are already "in the works".http://www.inclusiondaily.com/news/access/notification.htm#100200 


Under the ADA, disabled plaintiffs cannot recover damages when they file lawsuits to force businesses to comply with the law,but their attorneys can collect legal fees, so it is the lawyers making the money.Are ALL lawsuits filed against businesses bad or wrong?The more I've thought about it, the more I'm persuaded that businesses should have an opportunity to fix any accessibility problems before they're sued for noncompliance. Yes, businesspeople should learn more about the ADA before they condemn it. But the fact is, many lawyers are abusing the act, and that not only weakens the ADA, it casts those of us with disabilities as being for the ADA forreasons more than equal rights. IMHO, the truth lies somewhere between the two sides. I think the 'article' below states my feelings pretty good. I hopeeveryone will take the time to!
  read the
 entire text of both of John M. Williams articles 

Re: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

2005-08-02 Thread David K. Kelmer



Hi Stunt,

I don't like to be used by others for them to make money, either. The site I gave lists lawsuits filed, so if Mr. Moore settled before the suit was actually filed, it wouldn't be listed.

As far a any lawsuit being filed against Mr. Eastwood just because he has money, the outcome of any lawsuit is determined on its merits. That's the way our legal system works. It may not be perfect, but it is better than most people on the earth live under. 

I do understand that while Google doesn't retrieve everything, but do a quick check and you'll find the sites run as much against Mr. Moore's movie as forit. I think a fair reading would give both sides of the issues you say the media ignores. I'm not a tabloid reader so I'll take your word on their coverage, but both sides of the issue are in print. 

If I am not allowed to visit a resort for the simple reason that I don't live in the community it is in, that is wrong. Either AB or a person with a wheelchair should have that right. If I am not able to get into a court room or Federal building, then they are doing the same wrong. But two wrongs don't make it right. Change must be made across the board. In the 'Left' and in the 'Right.' To stand against change for what is right,is wrong for both sides, AND the middle! 

IMHO --If we as a Country are not moving forward, we are moving in the wrong direction, and all the effort that you and your fellow Veterans give to this Country would be lost. I pray thatnever happens.

With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA Your Name [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Moore settled that one out of court very quickly. It is difficult to find any mention of it (due to extreme limited coverage) and having changed my HD, I no longer have the org link. But it was to a Colorado newspaper (local story) with a headline something like; "Local victim from Columbine sueing Film Maker of Bowling for Columbine" (to the best of my recollection).Google doesn't retrieve everything, and while I can recall the gist of the name of the article it has been a while (when the movie first released).The person who wrote what you're calling an article, wrote an opinion piece. To give it any more legitimacy would be a mistake. If anyone has a vandetta, the writer should look into a mirror. As far as my leftist media reference, I was talking about all the tabloids that fawn over the meathead moores of the world,!
  and not
 holding them to the same standards as those they crucify whom they don't agree with. The Acadamey has shamed itself for calling Bowling for Columbine a Documentory and the honoring it as the worlds best for that year. And where was the leftist press??? Honoring him instead of exposing him as a fraud.As for Eastwoods desire to maintain the style of his resturaunt... do you think it is highly likely that he was targeted just because he is a celeberity and somebody smelled money?Personaly I find that offensive.To try to tie it to his motive for making the movie is also offensive.You see, I don't like being used.IMHO there are too many lawyers making themselves rich using us.And we have more important issues than forcing someone who doesn't even have a quad living in his small community to meet ADA standards when many of our courts and Federal buildings have that same fault.Sometimes a molehill isn't important.!
 And
 no, this wasn't about endorseing Eastwood, my opinion was towards the motivation and conclusion of the writer.IMHO BS is BS and it doesn't do any org good to spread it.Instead of accusations w/o merit, a simple critique would have sufficed.We need allies not enemies.Personally I liked the movie and if I'd suffered that high an injury, a friend who came to visit me 2 mo into rehab would have been asked to keep his promise made when I first became a stuntman.Stunt Hi Stunt,  When you say this is an "opinion," if you're referring to the term "Vendetta" used in the title of the article, then I agree, that is an opinion. Mr. Eastwood's legal issues with the State of CA is a matter of public record. -- http://thor.prohosting.com/stunttnt/http://tnthompson0.tripod.com/

Re: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

2005-08-01 Thread David K. Kelmer

Hi Stunt,

When you say this is an "opinion," if you're referring to the term "Vendetta" used in the title of the article, then I agree, that is an opinion. Mr. Eastwood's legal issues with the State of CA is a matter of publicrecord.As for the outcry from the media, left or right, about Mr. Moore, I did a Google search on bothEastwood and Moore, with 1,660,000hitsfor Eastwood and 16,700,000 hits for Moore. I didn't take the time to check if a hit was from the left or the right, but over 10 million morehitsfor Mooresounds to me as there wassome kind of cry about him. The only mention I found about Mr. Moore being sued overany movie,and I've already said I didn't check-out every hit,are these twofrom FILM LAWSUITS IN THE NEWS. http://www.indieclear.com/film_lawsuits.htm

Michael Moore sued over anti-gun movie


Associated Press
Wednesday, October 29, 2003
Detroit — James Nichols, the brother of Oklahoma City bombing conspirator Terry Nichols, says he was tricked into appearing in the anti-gun documentary Bowling for Columbine, according to a federal lawsuit filed against filmmaker Michael Moore.
Columbia Pictures v. Michael Moore
Status: Judge ruled June 3, 1998, Miramax's Big One posters must come down. 

Filed: April 15, 1998United States District Court, Los Angeles 
The Case: Columbia Pictures is suing Miramax Films and Mayfair Entertainment for copyright infringement and unfair competition, claiming the distributors stole the advertising concept from 1997's Men in Black campaign and used it to promote the Michael Moore mockumentary The Big One. 
The suit seeks unspecified damages and an injunction on The Big One's movie poster and trailer. 

The National Spinal Cord Injury Association may, in your opinion, be fromthe leftist media, but in their article they spoke of "exploration" not "exploitation" Perhaps, as you say, "The choice of words reveals the person." Not having seen either movie I have only what I've read about the men and their movies to go on, so I will not claim to know either oftheir motives, but my common sense tells me they both have motives when they make movies. Be it fame, fortune, or other issues, their motives are why they make movies.  

With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA 
Your Name [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Nothing but a personal opinion.A piss poor one at that.The choice of words reveals the person.Wonder WHY THEY CLAIM HE HAS A VANDETTA?(excuse the caps)Could it be a whiner that meathead moore didn't win it?Where was the outcry from the leftist media when meathead moore lied to and used a student in a wheelchair (who sued him) in the farce Bowling for Columbine?Now THAT was exploitation.Stunt Eastwood Continues Disability Vendetta with 'Million Dollar Baby' Source: National Spinal Cord Injury Association-- http://thor.prohosting.com/stunttnt/http://tnthompson0.tripod.com/

Re: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

2005-08-01 Thread Greg




I 
have no problem with the plot of the movie Million Dollar Baby. It’s a movie, 
not a fact. I loved Bonny and Clide, but I don’t condone it. I like when movies 
don’t always have a happy ending. I actually prefer this ending, to her ending 
up walking and fighting again. It has a more dramatic affect. And remember, this 
is a drama.

What 
I have problems with is that I don’t think it was a very good movie. I thought 
the acting bad, the boxing scenes were not very good, and the hospital scenes 
were way off. I mean she was talking while her vent was blowing in. Maybe some 
can, but I’ve never seen it.

Greg


Re: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

2005-08-01 Thread B. Kimberlin \(Quadius\)
Since I have not seen the movie, I can only comment on what others have told me. I have also heard the same complaints about this film that you have mentioned here.I guess I will wait and judge for myself later.BillyGreg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





I have no problem with the plot of the movie Million Dollar Baby. It’s a movie, not a fact. I loved Bonny and Clide, but I don’t condone it. I like when movies don’t always have a happy ending. I actually prefer this ending, to her ending up walking and fighting again. It has a more dramatic affect. And remember, this is a drama.

What I have problems with is that I don’t think it was a very good movie. I thought the acting bad, the boxing scenes were not very good, and the hospital scenes were way off. I mean she was talking while her vent was blowing in. Maybe some can, but I’ve never seen it.

Greg__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

2005-07-31 Thread David K. Kelmer
I will second that!

With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mr. Boyd could easily be the King and the winner of the "longest period contest."Man, I miss that guy.WIn a message dated 7/29/05 2:57:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 34 years as a Quad ? Wow, I wonder if that is the record in here for the longest period that any of us in here have been quads ? By the way how did you become paralyzed ??Thanks, Dan 

Re: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

2005-07-31 Thread David K. Kelmer
Eastwood Continues Disability Vendetta with 'Million Dollar Baby'Source: National Spinal Cord Injury Association
BETHESDA, Md., Jan. 19 /PRNewswire/ -- Score one for Clint Eastwood for his award winning film, "Million Dollar Baby," a brilliantly executed attack on life after spinal cord injury (SCI). It is exquisitely filmed and acted. Eastwood, director and star of the film, and actors Hillary Swank and Morgan Freeman know their craft. Paring the story to basics, Frankie (Eastwood), an aging manager, agrees to train Maggie (Swank), a talented boxer. Maggie takes a fall and sustains SCI. Frankie then kills Maggie in a nursing home at her request. 
Eastwood's message that life with SCI, with a disability, is not worth living is a prejudice shared by many. Missing is an exploration of why Maggie was in a nursing home without rehabilitation rather than returning home and attempting a decent quality of life. Eastwood fails to include mention that it is discrimination, poverty, and an inaccessible society that sometimes lead newly-injured people to abandon hope and choose death. 
"Eastwood is remembered by many for his attack on the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) in 2000," said Marcie Roth, CEO of the National Spinal Cord Injury Association. "I'm saddened but not surprised that he uses the power of fame and film to perpetuate his view that the lives of people with disabilities are not worth living." 
Perhaps this movie is Dirty Harry's revenge for being sued in 1997 after refusing to include $7000 worth of accessible bathrooms in his 6.7 million dollar resort renovation. Eastwood spearheaded the call to weaken the ADA by including a detrimental ninety-day notification provision. The fact that Eastwood refused pre-lawsuit notification via certified mail and was sued under California state law not the ADA came out at a subsequent congressional hearing. 
"Many people with SCI and other disabilities survive, thrive, and contribute to our society," stated Roth. "Dirty Harry could win the day and show us all a better use of his legendary talent by portraying disabled lives well-lived rather than sending the damaging message "better dead than disabled." 
Founded in 1948, the National Spinal Cord Injury Association is dedicated to improving the quality of life for hundreds of thousands of Americans with spinal cord injury and disease and their families. This number grows by approximately thirty newly-injured people each day. For more info on SCI see Source at: http://www.spinalcord.org 
With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Maybe it is just a story. There may be no message. 

john

In a message dated 7/29/2005 5:17:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:





Well I think you're sending the wrong message saying it's not always a bad thing.
You might re-think this answer if some one on here took your advice tomorrow and sent us a thank you e-mail.

I for one have gained lots of wisdom from being a quad and don't mind sharing it with my children.


Mark

---Original Message---


From: William Willis
Date: 07/29/05 14:48:52
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

tough, yes. but the "easy way out" is not always a bad thing. Suffering
achieves neither wisdom nor salvation nor is it the mighty fight that
elicits applause. It is simply a pain-in-the-ass fact void of glory that
every one of us do our damnedest to escape. I completely understand her
decision and I do not condemn Eastwood. I speak from 34 yrs. as a quad. The
movie ending that upset me was The Brooke Ellison Story. It ended with her
doing circles in the schoolyard and looking skyward. What the hell was that
supposed to mean? Yes, she graduated from Harvard, but she still had a
hellish future. To me, it was more depressing than Baby.

From: "QuadPirate" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "QuadPirate" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], quad-list@eskimo.com,"~LittleQuad~"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 13:50:09 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)

That's what I thought Amye, if she was a real fighter this is where the
story should've started.
Just goes to show you how damn tough we are.

Mark

---Original Message---

From: ~LittleQuad~
Date: 07/29/05 08:56:24
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

it seems to be taking the easy way outi have not seen it, but quad
friend says i should

gt;[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi all,
i finally had the chance to see this movie. i remember so much controversy
on the movie with this group. i just wonder why?
diane




http://fly.to/littlequad
Yahoo ID - littlequad










.





Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

2005-07-30 Thread wheelchair
Walter Payton, of the Chicago Bears, Football Team, once told me that 
God's gift to you is Life.  What you do with it is your gift to him.

Ive never forgotten that and when the issue of life and the quality of
life are mentioned, his words keep resurfacing.  Dang you Walter, lol.
W

In a message dated 7/30/05 9:40:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 John, you are probably right. I would certainly not condone anyone taking 
his own life. However, I cannot brand as a coward anyone who can move only 
his eyeballs that decides the payoff is not worth the suffering. 



Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

2005-07-30 Thread Jkrocks


 

I just watched the movie a couple of weeks ago and I had no problem with it 
either.

Jim


Re: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

2005-07-30 Thread ~LittleQuad~
i didn't watch that one either...when i know in advance that they are depressing i steer clear.
amyeWilliam Willis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
tough, yes. but the "easy way out" is not always a bad thing. Suffering achieves neither wisdom nor salvation nor is it the mighty fight that elicits applause. It is simply a pain-in-the-ass fact void of glory that every one of us do our damnedest to escape. I completely understand her decision and I do not condemn Eastwood. I speak from 34 yrs. as a quad. The movie ending that upset me was The Brooke Ellison Story. It ended with her doing circles in the schoolyard and looking skyward. What the hell was that supposed to mean? Yes, she graduated from Harvard, but she still had a hellish future. To me, it was more depressing than Baby.From: "QuadPirate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: "QuadPirate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <QUAD-LIST@ESKIMO.COM>, "~LittleQuad~"
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar BabyDate: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 13:50:09 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) That's what I thought Amye, if she was a real fighter this is where thestory should've started.Just goes to show you how damn tough we are.Mark---Original Message---From: ~LittleQuad~Date: 07/29/05 08:56:24To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Babyit seems to be taking the easy way outi have not seen it, but quadfriend says i should[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:hi all,i finally had the chance to see this movie. i remember so much controversyon the movie with this group. i just wonder why?dianehttp://fly.to/littlequadYahoo ID -
 littlequad

Re: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

2005-07-30 Thread QuadPirate






Good point Stuntman and maybe it will help some one treat people better.

My only opinion on this is she was supposed to be a fighter and when the bell rang she left the ring.
I don't think Mr. Eastwood had anything but money on his mind when he made this film and after all his main objective is too fill theater seats so it was a great movie I guess.

Anyone that wants to see a great movie a sci should see Rory O'Shea was here, great movie, true to sci and great acting  directing in my opinion a much better movie with a good ending.
http://www.roryosheawasheremovie.com/

Mark

---Original Message---


From: Your Name
Date: 07/29/05 20:00:10
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

Some people never adapt.
Some want to live life on their own terms.
Nobody else has the right to judge them.
Now, maybe, just maybe, at least ONE family out there learned the need
to be supportive.
Or somebody in a rehab center learned to act in a better way.
In which case, the movie will have had a positive effect.
I will agree that it might be a bad idea for a new high level quad to
watch it though.
But some how I didn't get the impression it was ever ment to be a "feel
good" movie.
Stunt



 Not a good movie for a new quad to see.It showed no opportunities
for her.
Sure she had a horrible family, but such as supportivefriend.Why
not use
 those fighting abilities in the right direction. Why not any
independent
 living, that would've made a big difference.Sheappeared to be in
a facility.
 Dana



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http://thor.prohosting.com/stunttnt/
http://tnthompson0.tripod.com/
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Re: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

2005-07-30 Thread DiannaL767





  William Willis 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The 
movie ending that upset me was The Brooke Ellison Story. It ended with 
her doing circles in the schoolyard and looking skyward. What the hell 
was that supposed to mean? Yes, she graduated from Harvard, but she 
still had a hellish future. To me, it was more depressing than 
Baby.
Funny, I just saw that movie on tv this morning, (again). What I analyze 
from that scene is it was just her own way of expressing joy. Earlier in the 
movie the guy she liked so much asked her to a dance. While they were talking, 
she said to him when I dream I'm never in a w/c but she always dreamed of 
dancing...at that point he took her on the dance floor and twirled her chair. 
Then she was depressed because after awhile she got an email that wrote he was 
engaged. So I guess that ending was supposed to be her way of expressing 
thatjoy (graduating from Harvard). That movie was in 2000. Wonder where 
she is today?
Diane

  




Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

2005-07-29 Thread ~LittleQuad~
it seems to be taking the easy way outi have not seen it, but quad friend says i should[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


hi all,
i finally had the chance to see this movie. i remember so much controversy on the movie with this group. i just wonder why?
diane


http://fly.to/littlequadYahoo ID - littlequad 

Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

2005-07-29 Thread Quietstream25322



 Hi Diane, Me and my wife thought this was a great movie. Clint 
Eastwood said that some people were trying to INTERPET to MUCH from this movie. 
He said that it was Simply--- Telling a Story, And had nothing to do with 
changing peoples views or Euthinasia...If you recall in the movie He did not 
want to assist her and was even afraid it would doom his soul to hell. Overall a 
good movie although very sad and touching.
 
Dan c-6 8yrs. post


Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

2005-07-29 Thread QuadPirate






That's what I thought Amye, if she was a real fighter this is where the story should've started.
Just goes to show you how damn tough we are.

Mark

---Original Message---


From: ~LittleQuad~
Date: 07/29/05 08:56:24
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

it seems to be taking the easy way outi have not seen it, but quad friend says i should[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 


hi all,
i finally had the chance to see this movie. i remember so much controversy on the movie with this group. i just wonder why?
diane



http://fly.to/littlequadYahoo ID - littlequad 










FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

2005-07-29 Thread William Willis
tough, yes. but the easy way out is not always a bad thing. Suffering 
achieves neither wisdom nor salvation nor is it the mighty fight that 
elicits applause. It is simply a pain-in-the-ass fact void of glory that 
every one of us do our damnedest to escape. I completely understand her 
decision and I do not condemn Eastwood. I speak from 34 yrs. as a quad. The 
movie ending that upset me was The Brooke Ellison Story. It ended with her 
doing circles in the schoolyard and looking skyward. What the hell was that 
supposed to mean? Yes, she graduated from Harvard, but she still had a 
hellish future. To me, it was more depressing than Baby.



From: QuadPirate [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: QuadPirate [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], quad-list@eskimo.com,~LittleQuad~ 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 13:50:09 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)

 That's what I thought Amye, if she was a real fighter this is where the
story should've started.
Just goes to show you how damn tough we are.

Mark

---Original Message---

From: ~LittleQuad~
Date: 07/29/05 08:56:24
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

it seems to be taking the easy way outi have not seen it, but quad
friend says i should

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi all,
i finally had the chance to see this movie. i remember so much controversy
on the movie with this group. i just wonder why?
diane




http://fly.to/littlequad
Yahoo ID - littlequad







Re: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

2005-07-29 Thread Quietstream25322



 34 years as a Quad ? Wow, I wonder if that is the 
record in here for the longest period that any of us in here have been quads 
? By the way how did you become paralyzed ??
 
Thanks, Dan


Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

2005-07-29 Thread Ol' Man River
Honorable mention Dave at 38 yrs (1967)
I think Mr. Boyd is 1948 or something - 50 some years... i think
Dave[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mr. Boyd could easily be the King and the winner of the "longest period contest."Man, I miss that guy.WIn a message dated 7/29/05 2:57:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 34 years as a Quad ? Wow, I wonder if that is the record in here for the longest period that any of us in here have been quads ? By the way how did you become paralyzed ??Thanks, Dan Dave(what's a quad?)__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

2005-07-29 Thread MikeyBird3




In a message dated 7/29/2005 3:57:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   34 years as a Quad ? Wow, I wonder if that is 
  the record in here for the longest period that any of us in here have been 
  quads ? By the way how did you become paralyzed ??
   
  Thanks, Dan

I just passed my 37th "anniversary" of breaking my neck in a diving 
accident. I think there are a couple on the list that have survived longer 
than me. 

BillC-6 incomplete in FL


Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

2005-07-29 Thread wheelchair
Honorable mentions go to anyone who survives a trauma incident.
Being able to carry on, while surviving for 38 years is a very
specialty in its own.  Bonsai= May You Live 1000 Years!
W

In a message dated 7/29/05 3:12:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Honorable mention Dave at 38 yrs (1967)

I think Mr. Boyd is 1948 or something - 50 some years... i think

Dave 



Re: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

2005-07-29 Thread QuadPirate






Well I think you're sending the wrong message saying it's not always a bad thing.
You might re-think this answer if some one on here took your advice tomorrow and sent us a thank you e-mail.

I for one have gained lots of wisdom from being a quad and don't mind sharing it with my children.


Mark

---Original Message---


From: William Willis
Date: 07/29/05 14:48:52
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

tough, yes. but the "easy way out" is not always a bad thing. Suffering
achieves neither wisdom nor salvation nor is it the mighty fight that
elicits applause. It is simply a pain-in-the-ass fact void of glory that
every one of us do our damnedest to escape. I completely understand her
decision and I do not condemn Eastwood. I speak from 34 yrs. as a quad. The
movie ending that upset me was The Brooke Ellison Story. It ended with her
doing circles in the schoolyard and looking skyward. What the hell was that
supposed to mean? Yes, she graduated from Harvard, but she still had a
hellish future. To me, it was more depressing than Baby.

From: "QuadPirate" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "QuadPirate" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], quad-list@eskimo.com,"~LittleQuad~"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 13:50:09 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)

That's what I thought Amye, if she was a real fighter this is where the
story should've started.
Just goes to show you how damn tough we are.

Mark

---Original Message---

From: ~LittleQuad~
Date: 07/29/05 08:56:24
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

it seems to be taking the easy way outi have not seen it, but quad
friend says i should

gt;[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi all,
i finally had the chance to see this movie. i remember so much controversy
on the movie with this group. i just wonder why?
diane




http://fly.to/littlequad
Yahoo ID - littlequad




.









Re: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

2005-07-29 Thread DAANOO



Not a good movie for a new quad to see. It showed no opportunities 
for her. Sure she had a horrible family, but such as supportive 
friend. Why not use those fighting abilities in the right direction. 
Why not any independent living, that would've made a big difference. She 
appeared to be in a facility.Dana


Re: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

2005-07-29 Thread DeLiMiTeD4




Maybe it is just a story. There may be no message. 

john

In a message dated 7/29/2005 5:17:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  


  
Well I think you're sending the wrong message saying it's not 
always a bad thing.
You might re-think this answer if some one on here took your advice 
tomorrow and sent us a thank you e-mail.

I for one have gained lots of wisdom from being a quad and don't 
mind sharing it with my children.


Mark

---Original 
Message---


From: William Willis
Date: 07/29/05 
14:48:52
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: FW: Re: 
[QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

tough, yes. but the "easy way out" is not always a bad thing. 
Suffering
achieves neither wisdom nor salvation nor is it the mighty fight 
that
elicits applause. It is simply a pain-in-the-ass fact void of glory 
that
every one of us do our damnedest to escape. I completely understand 
her
decision and I do not condemn Eastwood. I speak from 34 yrs. as a 
quad. The
movie ending that upset me was The Brooke Ellison Story. It ended 
with her
doing circles in the schoolyard and looking skyward. What the hell 
was that
supposed to mean? Yes, she graduated from Harvard, but she still 
had a
hellish future. To me, it was more depressing than Baby.

From: "QuadPirate" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "QuadPirate" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], quad-list@eskimo.com,"~LittleQuad~"
        [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 13:50:09 -0500 (Central Daylight 
Time)

That's what I thought Amye, if she was a real 
fighter this is where the
story should've started.
Just goes to show you how damn tough we are.

Mark

---Original Message---

From: ~LittleQuad~
Date: 07/29/05 08:56:24
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie: Million Dollar Baby

it seems to be taking the easy way outi have not seen it, 
but quad
friend says i should

gt;[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
hi all,
i finally had the chance to see this movie. i remember so much 
controversy
on the movie with this group. i just wonder why?
diane




http://fly.to/littlequad
Yahoo ID - littlequad





  
  



.

  




FW: Re: [QUAD-L] movie

2005-05-19 Thread William Willis
Yep, just came out. I got mine from blockbuster.
From: Mack Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] movie
Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 15:36:47 -0700
Is it on DVD? It not showing anywhere in my area.
On May 19, 2005, at 3:02 PM, William Willis wrote:
Hey guys.I just watched The Sea Inside. Wonderful movie but  unbelieveably 
sad. It is in Spanish with Eng. subtitles. Put it on  you round tuit list. 
It is  well worth watching. Plus, I would love  to hear your comments on 
it.  Larry


Mack
http://www.macknezjohnson.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
POWER TO THE PEOPLE!




Re: [QUAD-L] movie

2005-05-19 Thread Steve Oldaker
Rent the Waterdance.  Best movie ever for depicting the male quad rehab
experience.  I frequently share it with friends who want some insite on quad
life, especially rehab.

Steve 

 -Original Message-
 From: William Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:14 PM
 To: quad-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] movie
 
 Yep, just came out. I got mine from blockbuster.
 
 From: Mack Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: quad-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] movie
 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 15:36:47 -0700
 
 Is it on DVD? It not showing anywhere in my area.
 
 On May 19, 2005, at 3:02 PM, William Willis wrote:
 
 Hey guys.I just watched The Sea Inside. Wonderful movie but  
 unbelieveably sad. It is in Spanish with Eng. subtitles. 
 Put it on  you round tuit list.
 It is  well worth watching. Plus, I would love  to hear 
 your comments 
 on it.  Larry
 
 
 
 
 Mack
 http://www.macknezjohnson.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 POWER TO THE PEOPLE!
 
 
 
 



Re: [QUAD-L] movie about disabled

2005-02-08 Thread QuadPirate






Hey Dan,
Go to this link and put in your zip and it will tell you if it's playing in your area.
This movie was just released on 2/4/2005but I doubt it makes it to the theater in the US it'swas made in Ireland I believe we'll probably have to wait for the dvd.
http://movies.channel.aol.com/movie/main.adp?_pgtyp=pdcttab=showtimesmid=20385

Mark



---Original Message---


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, February 07, 2005 7:08:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] movie about disabled

 I was not able to determine if this movie will be on TV or for rental or at the moviesDoes anyone know ? 
 thanks, Dan










Re: [QUAD-L] movie about disabled

2005-02-08 Thread Quietstream25322



Ok, thanks for the info---i'll be sure to get it when it hits 
dvd.
 
Dan


Re: [QUAD-L] movie about disabled

2005-02-07 Thread TonyPony1
In a message dated 2/7/2005 5:57:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hi,
Did you guys hear about the new movie coming out about two disabled friends who leave their institution to live on their own.
Heres more about it. Click here: Movie Database - [TV Guide Online]
Its called RORY O'SHEA WAS HERE.
Johnny 

...sounds like a cool movie!! It was almost my experience as i moved out of the rehab center in Maryland with another quad and a tiny guy with Cycstic Fibrosis, which made him look about 11 yrs old, but he was 20. I had nowhere to live after i left rehab, and Sam, the other quad, had a pyscho mom who wouldn't help him. Ralph, CF guy, just wanted to move out of his home. 

We had a blast, pooled our money for caretakers, partying and eating. We were really a sideshow, and rocked the apartment building...me and Sam were left in bed a few times by caretakers, but called former nurses to the rescue. I decided i needed to be in WARM-florida, so i split the gang up, but it was a wild ride while it lasted. We were like brothers, but soon after coming to Fla, Ralph died...i couldn't believe it, he never seemed that sick to me. Me qand Ralph were very close, and i'll never forget how damn cool he was, and his great laugh...wow, i haven't thought of him in years. I lost touch with Sam, don't know if he's alive or what...wish i knew!!

-tony c5c6 florida 24 yrs


Re: [QUAD-L] movie about disabled

2005-02-07 Thread Quietstream25322



 I was not able to determine if this movie will be on TV or for 
rental or at the moviesDoes anyone know ? 
 
thanks, Dan


Re: [QUAD-L] Movie

2005-02-01 Thread River Wolfe
Exactly...I'm not necessarily a proponent of removing freedom of the 
right to die.  BUt come on, tell the story right if you're going to 
tell it.

R
On Jan 31, 2005, at 7:33 PM, David K. Kelmer wrote:
he should not have had the 'Mercy Killing' right
after the accident with no life experiences to help the character make 
an
informed decision. I don't understand why this question hasn't been 
addressed more
in the mainstream media or in the disability community.



Re: [QUAD-L] Movie

2005-01-31 Thread David K. Kelmer
Thanks for the Link.

With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It has been addressed on: www.dimenet.comThe national website for Centers for Independent Living under NEWS.WIn a message dated 1/29/05 1:59:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think it was just by accident that this twist comes in the last five minutes of the movie. Even if Mr. Eastwood had wanted to make a movie about the 'Right to Die' issue, he should not have had the 'Mercy Killing' right after the accident with no life experiences to help the character make an informed decision. I don't understand why this question hasn't been addressed more in the mainstream media or in the disability community.

Re: [QUAD-L] Movie- Clint Eastwood

2005-01-31 Thread David K. Kelmer
Hi Wheels,

I remember well. It seems my wheelchair and my fellow wheelchair users have not been making Mr. Eastwood's day for awhile now! 

With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you remember... Clint Eastwood was sued for noncompliant restaurant, which he owned. I believe that he lost that case and was bitter about its lost. Some believe that he shows his feelings in the endings of the movie with he directed.WIn a message dated 1/29/05 2:26:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Million Dollar Baby is up for several academy awards How sad and cruel for Clint Eastwood to be at it again in his disdain for people with disabilities in an attempt to seek sympathy for killers of people with disabilities... please read "Not Dead Yet's" review and view below.Daniese McMullin-PowellADAPT DelawareNot Dead Yet, Delaware 

Re: [QUAD-L] Movie- Clint Eastwood

2005-01-30 Thread andrea murray




Well, 
I think that is how our Present Bush feel about the Disability world. He and the Governor of Indiana is cutting Medicaid. We all better stand in a line and be shoot. That will help Bush save more money for THE WAR!! It will be just like the Vietnam war after our men come home with some kind of disability. They will have to fight to getback the ADA. Are you going to just set back and let our government pick apart the ADA Law that we fought so hard to get.As for Clint Eastwood( he does not make my day!) I will fight until the end to save my brothers and sisters. 
Wheelchair Warrior
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you remember... Clint Eastwood was sued for noncompliant restaurant, which he owned. I believe that he lost that case and was bitter about its lost. Some believe that he shows his feelings in the endings of the movie with he directed.WIn a message dated 1/29/05 2:26:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Million Dollar Baby is up for several academy awards How sad and cruel for Clint Eastwood to be at it again in his disdain for people with disabilities in an attempt to seek sympathy for killers of people with disabilities... please read "Not Dead Yet's" review and view below.Daniese McMullin-PowellADAPT DelawareNot Dead Yet, Delaware 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Movie

2005-01-30 Thread B. Kimberlin
I have only told my immediate family about the controversy because I feel they would be deeply offended, but I don't want to press my feelings on to other unsuspecting individuals who are going to enjoy the film. Who knows, maybe this will provoke some stimulating conversation outside of the disabled community.I wonder what Christopher Reed would have said about this film.Billy from TampaC2-39 years post[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I haven't seen the movie yet, River, but I know that it has raised major issues with the advocate group "Not Dead Yet" crowd in Chicago. They have demonstrated several times passing out literature to those attending including national movie critics.As consumers, we see movies of death and torture, as well as dangerous stunts. I sincerely hope that we don't consider those actions to standard in our civil life.Same could be said about the movie as I don't wish to reveal the end of it for those who may not have seen it yet.Best WishesWIn a message dated 1/29/05 7:59:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why is no one talking about this movie? I had no clue it portrayed disability in such a way. I was going to go see it, but not now. I don't want to give it away if you want to see it, but am wondering why the
 blatant inaccuracies and "death is better than disabled" viewpoint isn't getting more media coverage. Esp since the National Spinal Cord Injury Assoc. has come out against it. Maybe I'm late and it's already been discussed here? 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Movie- Clint Eastwood

2005-01-30 Thread Houston809
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Movie- Clint Eastwood



Well said Andra,
There's a lot of cuts across the board 2 get $$$ for this war that is technically over but more men die everyday... And more than when the war was on. Theyll take a little better care of the disabled simply because weve progressed in medicine since the 70s. The President that I didnt vote 4 but will back with my life the same goes 4 this elected governor. Ill just have 2 support there decisions that they say are necessary. Ill die b4 I live in a nursing home again

On 1/30/05 4:01 PM, andrea murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Well, 
I think that is how our Present Bush feel about the Disability world. He and the Governor of Indiana is cutting Medicaid. We all better stand in a line and be shoot. That will help Bush save more money for THE WAR!! It will be just like the Vietnam war after our men come home with some kind of disability. They will have to fight to get back the ADA. Are you going to just set back and let our government pick apart the ADA Law that we fought so hard to get. As for Clint Eastwood( he does not make my day! ) I will fight until the end to save my brothers and sisters. 
Wheelchair Warrior


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you remember... Clint Eastwood was sued for noncompliant restaurant, which 
he owned. I believe that he lost that case and was bitter about its lost. 
Some believe that he shows his feelings in the endings of the movie with he 
directed.
W

In a message dated 1/29/05 2:26:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Million Dollar Baby is up for several academy awards How sad and cruel 
for Clint Eastwood to be at it again in his disdain for people with 
disabilities in an attempt to seek sympathy for killers of people with disabilities... 
please read Not Dead Yet's review and view below.

Daniese McMullin-Powell
ADAPT Delaware
Not Dead Yet, Delaware 


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Re: [QUAD-L] Movie

2005-01-29 Thread Greg



What movie?

- Original Message - 
From: River 
Wolfe 
To: Quad List 
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 6:58 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Movie
Why 
is no one talking about this movie? I had no clue it portrayed disability in 
such a way. I was going to go see it, but not now. I don't want to give it away 
if you want to see it, but am wondering why the blatant inaccuracies and "death 
is better than disabled" viewpoint isn't getting more media coverage. Esp since 
the National Spinal Cord Injury Assoc. has come out against it. Maybe I'm late 
and it's already been discussed 
here?peaceandlovingkindness,Riverwww.hodohio.com


Re: [QUAD-L] Movie

2005-01-29 Thread River Wolfe
Million Dollar Baby, Baby.
On Jan 29, 2005, at 11:49 AM, Greg wrote:

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Why is no one talking about this movie? I had no clue it portrayed disability in such a way. I was going to go see it, but not now. I don't want to give it away if you want to see it, but am wondering why the blatant inaccuracies and death is better than disabled viewpoint isn't getting more media coverage. Esp since the National Spinal Cord Injury Assoc. has come out against it. Maybe I'm late and it's already been discussed here?


peaceandlovingkindness,

River
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Re: [QUAD-L] Movie

2005-01-29 Thread Houston809
NO IT'S MY 1ST TIME HEARING ABOUT IT.

On 1/29/05 8:58 AM, River Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Why is no one talking about this movie?  I had no clue it portrayed
 disability in such a way.  I was going to go see it, but not now.  I
 don't want to give it away if you want to see it, but am wondering why
 the blatant inaccuracies and death is better than disabled viewpoint
 isn't getting more media coverage.  Esp since the National Spinal Cord
 Injury Assoc. has come out against it.  Maybe I'm late and it's already
 been discussed here?
 
 
 peaceandlovingkindness,
 
 River
 www.hodohio.com
 



Re: [QUAD-L] Movie

2005-01-29 Thread David K. Kelmer


Hi River,

I don't think it was just by accident that this twist comes in the last five minutes of the movie. Even if Mr. Eastwood had wanted to make a movie about the 'Right to Die' issue, he should nothave had the 'Mercy Killing' right after the accident withno life experiences to help the charactermake an informed decision. I don't understand why this questionhasn't been addressed morein the mainstream media or in the disability community.

With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA River Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why is no one talking about this movie? I had no clue it portrayed disability in such a way. I was going to go see it, but not now. I don't want to give it away if you want to see it, but am wondering why the blatant inaccuracies and "death is better than disabled" viewpoint isn't getting more media coverage. Esp since the National Spinal Cord Injury Assoc. has come out against it. Maybe I'm late and it's already been discussed here?peaceandlovingkindness,Riverwww.hodohio.com

Re: [QUAD-L] Movie

2005-01-29 Thread David K. Kelmer

Million Dollar Baby is up for several academy awards How sad and cruel for Clint Eastwood to be at it again in his disdain for people with disabilities in an attempt to seek sympathy for killers of people with disabilities... please read "Not Dead Yet's" review and view below.

Daniese McMullin-Powell
ADAPT Delaware
Not Dead Yet, Delaware


"Not Dead Yet Challenges Movie Critics, Eastwood"[Thanks to the National Disabled Students Union, http://www.disabledstudents.org/, for bringing this to JFA's attention.]A Press Release from Not Dead Yet:Disability Activists Call Chicago Movie Critics: Million Dollar BigotsJanuary 19, 2005 @ 6:00 p.m., 65 W. Jackson Blvd., ChicagoChicago disability activists will be protesting the bigotry and ignorance of the members of the Chicago Film Critics Association (CFCA). Virtually every critic in the association gave a rave review to Clint Eastwood's Million Dollar Baby, a film that promotes the killing of disabled people as the solution to the problem of disability.On Wednesday, January 19th, activists will picket and distribute protest leaflets outside of the Union League Club of Chicago. Attendees at the CFCA event will be met by activists from the Chicago disability rights community,
 protesting the bigotry and ignorance of Chicago movie critics. Ignorance and bigotry are the only explanations for the universal adoration expressed for a movie that is being called a corny, melodramatic assault on people with disabilities by one reviewer in the disability community.Roger Ebert, of the Chicago Sun-Times, has named it the number one movie of 2004. In fact, he seems to find new opportunities to promote the movie every couple of days. His TV partner, Richard Roeper, also gave the film an enthusiastic thumbs up.But like we said, they're not alone. Michael Wilmington of the Chicago Tribune gave it 4/4 stars.The vast majority of critics talk about the surprise ending without telling their readers and viewers what it is. It's simple: the surprise is that a young woman boxing star becomes disabled, and Eastwood's character (in a painful, self-sacrificing gesture), kills her.Its a
 pro-euthanasia movie. But they don't want you to go in expecting that to be the main message. But it's the romanticized killing at the end that makes the movie for most of the critics.We feel it's no coincidence that Eastwood is also a staunch opponent of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA). He's been sued - and lost - under the act in regard to a resort he owns. After his loss in the courts, he engaged in a legislative campaign to weaken the ADA, even giving testimony in Congress. His face is on the cover of a book on ADA backlash called "Make Them Go Away." This film appears to be his revenge on our community.Suppose instead Eastwood had been an active opponent of the civil rights of any minority other than people with disabilities. Suppose he'd been sued for race or gender discrimination at his resort instead of disability discrimination. And then suppose he'd made a movie manipulating the !
 audience
 to sympathize with someone who killed a member of that group. We suspect the reactions of critics across the country would have been, pardon the _expression, critical.Not Dead Yet7521 Madison St.Forest Park, IL 60130Contact: Diane Coleman or Stephen Drake(708)209-1500; (708)420-0539 (cell)For more detailed analysis of the movie and its reviews, go to:http:www.raggededgemagazine.comGreg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




What movie?

- Original Message - 
From: River Wolfe 
To: Quad List 
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 6:58 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Movie
Why is no one talking about this movie? I had no clue it portrayed disability in such a way. I was going to go see it, but not now. I don't want to give it away if you want to see it, but am wondering why the blatant inaccuracies and "death is better than disabled" viewpoint isn't getting more media coverage. Esp since the National Spinal Cord Injury Assoc. has come out against it. Maybe I'm late and it's already been discussed here?peaceandlovingkindness,Riverwww.hodohio.com

Re: [QUAD-L] Movie

2005-01-29 Thread B. Kimberlin

I did not read this response to closely because I have not seen the movie. However, knowing Mr. Eastwood's feelings on the disabled community it does not surprise me that he would rather have a person died than be disabled. I don't recall exactly the circumstances around what happened, but he was pushing for changes in the ADA because his newly renovated hotel was not in compliance. In my opinion he is a pompous uncaring ass that does not deserve any of my money. I will only watch this movie when it comes out on a channel which I have on my television package.
Billy from Tampa
C2-3
9 years post"David K. Kelmer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Hi River,

I don't think it was just by accident that this twist comes in the last five minutes of the movie. Even if Mr. Eastwood had wanted to make a movie about the 'Right to Die' issue, he should nothave had the 'Mercy Killing' right after the accident withno life experiences to help the charactermake an informed decision. I don't understand why this questionhasn't been addressed morein the mainstream media or in the disability community.

With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA River Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why is no one talking about this movie? I had no clue it portrayed disability in such a way. I was going to go see it, but not now. I don't want to give it away if you want to see it, but am wondering why the blatant inaccuracies and "death is better than disabled" viewpoint isn't getting more media coverage. Esp since the National Spinal Cord Injury Assoc. has come out against it. Maybe I'm late and it's already been discussed here?peaceandlovingkindness,Riverwww.hodohio.com
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RE: [QUAD-L] Movie

2005-01-29 Thread Cameron Wallace
Title: Message



Did Clint issue any statement about this? Hillary Swank 
and Morgan Freeman have strong minds and (I hope) would see it for it's bigotry 
even if Clint was being a d**k.
Damn! I like Clint's movies. I would hate to hate 
him.
Has anyone seen "THE SEA INSIDE"? My Mom sez it's 
another Oscar nominated 'death before disability' movie.
I 
gotta'say.For the first few(6) months, I wanted to die, but now I feel 
I'm ready to face a situation I never would have chosen (but try as I might, I 
can't pat myself on the back)
regards, Cameron

  
  -Original Message-From: David K. Kelmer 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 
  29, 2005 3:25 PMTo: Greg; quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: 
  Re: [QUAD-L] Movie
  
  Million Dollar Baby is up for several academy awards How sad and 
  cruel for Clint Eastwood to be at it again in his disdain for people with 
  disabilities in an attempt to seek sympathy for killers of people with 
  disabilities... please read "Not Dead Yet's" review and view 
below.
  
  Daniese McMullin-Powell
  ADAPT Delaware
  Not Dead Yet, Delaware
  
  
  "Not Dead Yet Challenges Movie Critics, Eastwood"[Thanks to the 
  National Disabled Students Union, http://www.disabledstudents.org/, for 
  bringing this to JFA's attention.]A Press Release from Not Dead 
  Yet:Disability Activists Call Chicago Movie Critics: Million 
  Dollar BigotsJanuary 19, 2005 @ 6:00 p.m., 65 W. Jackson Blvd., 
  ChicagoChicago disability activists will be protesting the bigotry 
  and ignorance of the members of the Chicago Film Critics Association 
  (CFCA). Virtually every critic in the association gave a rave review to 
  Clint Eastwood's Million Dollar Baby, a film that promotes the killing of 
  disabled people as the solution to the problem of disability.On 
  Wednesday, January 19th, activists will picket and distribute protest 
  leaflets outside of the Union League Club of Chicago. Attendees at the 
  CFCA event will be met by activists from the Chicago disability rights 
  community, protesting the bigotry and ignorance of Chicago movie 
  critics. Ignorance and bigotry are the only explanations for the 
  universal adoration expressed for a movie that is being called a corny, 
  melodramatic assault on people with disabilities by one reviewer in the 
  disability community.Roger Ebert, of the Chicago Sun-Times, has named 
  it the number one movie of 2004. In fact, he seems to find new 
  opportunities to promote the movie every couple of days. His TV 
  partner, Richard Roeper, also gave the film an enthusiastic thumbs 
  up.But like we said, they're not alone. Michael Wilmington of the 
  Chicago Tribune gave it 4/4 stars.The vast majority of critics talk 
  about the surprise ending without telling their readers and viewers what 
  it is. It's simple: the surprise is that a young woman boxing star 
  becomes disabled, and Eastwood's character (in a painful, 
  self-sacrificing gesture), kills her.Its a pro-euthanasia movie. 
  But they don't want you to go in expecting that to be the main message. 
  But it's the romanticized killing at the end that makes the movie for 
  most of the critics.We feel it's no coincidence that Eastwood is 
  also a staunch opponent of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA). He's 
  been sued - and lost - under the act in regard to a resort he owns. 
  After his loss in the courts, he engaged in a legislative campaign to 
  weaken the ADA, even giving testimony in Congress. His face is on the 
  cover of a book on ADA backlash called "Make Them Go Away." This film 
  appears to be his revenge on our community.Suppose instead 
  Eastwood had been an active opponent of the civil rights of any minority 
  other than people with disabilities. Suppose he'd been sued for race or 
  gender discrimination at his resort instead of disability 
  discrimination. And then suppose he'd made a movie manipulating the ! 
  audience to sympathize with someone who killed a member of that group. We 
  suspect the reactions of critics across the country would have been, 
  pardon the _expression, critical.Not Dead Yet7521 Madison 
  St.Forest Park, IL 60130Contact: Diane Coleman or Stephen 
  Drake(708)209-1500; (708)420-0539 (cell)For more detailed analysis 
  of the movie and its reviews, go 
  to:http:www.raggededgemagazine.comGreg 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  



What movie?

- Original Message - 
From: River 
Wolfe 
To: Quad List 
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 6:58 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Movie
Why is no one talking about this movie? I had no 
clue it portrayed disability in such a way. I was going to go see it, but 
not now. I don't want to give it away if you want to see it, but am 
wondering why the blatant inaccuracies and "death is better than disabled" 
view

Re: [QUAD-L] Movie

2005-01-29 Thread ~LittleQuad~
i was soo going to go see that...i would have been pissed to say the least!!
thanks 4 saving me the trouble."David K. Kelmer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Million Dollar Baby is up for several academy awards How sad and cruel for Clint Eastwood to be at it again in his disdain for people with disabilities in an attempt to seek sympathy for killers of people with disabilities... please read "Not Dead Yet's" review and view below.

Daniese McMullin-Powell
ADAPT Delaware
Not Dead Yet, Delaware


"Not Dead Yet Challenges Movie Critics, Eastwood"[Thanks to the National Disabled Students Union, http://www.disabledstudents.org/, for bringing this to JFA's attention.]A Press Release from Not Dead Yet:Disability Activists Call Chicago Movie Critics: Million Dollar BigotsJanuary 19, 2005 @ 6:00 p.m., 65 W. Jackson Blvd., ChicagoChicago disability activists will be protesting the bigotry and ignorance of the members of the Chicago Film Critics Association (CFCA). Virtually every critic in the association gave a rave review to Clint Eastwood's Million Dollar Baby, a film that promotes the killing of disabled people as the solution to the problem of disability.On Wednesday, January 19th, activists will picket and distribute protest leaflets outside of the Union League Club of Chicago. Attendees at the CFCA event will be met by activists from the Chicago disability rights community,
 protesting the bigotry and ignorance of Chicago movie critics. Ignorance and bigotry are the only explanations for the universal adoration expressed for a movie that is being called a corny, melodramatic assault on people with disabilities by one reviewer in the disability community.Roger Ebert, of the Chicago Sun-Times, has named it the number one movie of 2004. In fact, he seems to find new opportunities to promote the movie every couple of days. His TV partner, Richard Roeper, also gave the film an enthusiastic thumbs up.But like we said, they're not alone. Michael Wilmington of the Chicago Tribune gave it 4/4 stars.The vast majority of critics talk about the surprise ending without telling their readers and viewers what it is. It's simple: the surprise is that a young woman boxing star becomes disabled, and Eastwood's character (in a painful, self-sacrificing gesture), kills her.Its a
 pro-euthanasia movie. But they don't want you to go in expecting that to be the main message. But it's the romanticized killing at the end that makes the movie for most of the critics.We feel it's no coincidence that Eastwood is also a staunch opponent of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA). He's been sued - and lost - under the act in regard to a resort he owns. After his loss in the courts, he engaged in a legislative campaign to weaken the ADA, even giving testimony in Congress. His face is on the cover of a book on ADA backlash called "Make Them Go Away." This film appears to be his revenge on our community.Suppose instead Eastwood had been an active opponent of the civil rights of any minority other than people with disabilities. Suppose he'd been sued for race or gender discrimination at his resort instead of disability discrimination. And then suppose he'd made a movie manipulating the !
 audience to sympathize with someone who killed a member of that group. We suspect the reactions of critics across the country would have been, pardon the _expression, critical.Not Dead Yet7521 Madison St.Forest Park, IL 60130Contact: Diane Coleman or Stephen Drake(708)209-1500; (708)420-0539 (cell)For more detailed analysis of the movie and its reviews, go to:http:www.raggededgemagazine.comGreg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




What movie?

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From: River Wolfe 
To: Quad List 
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Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 6:58 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Movie
Why is no one talking about this movie? I had no clue it portrayed disability in such a way. I was going to go see it, but not now. I don't want to give it away if you want to see it, but am wondering why the blatant inaccuracies and "death is better than disabled" viewpoint isn't getting more media coverage. Esp since the National Spinal Cord Injury Assoc. has come out against it. Maybe I'm late and it's already been discussed here?peaceandlovingkindness,Riverwww.hodohio.com

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