Re: CAT 5 Cable?

2003-01-06 Thread Frederick Silliman
Mark Benson wrote: On Monday, Jan 6, 2003, at 01:19 Europe/London, Frederick Silliman wrote: No, I wouldn't want to overtax my intelligent ass. In other words you don't know. The honest to god good reason being the only thing you can damage by wiring up a Cat5 ethernet cable wrong

Re: Silliman [was] CAT 5 Cable?

2003-01-06 Thread Sque
Frederick Silliman wrote: Sque wrote: Do you have a answer to the question, what damage is caused by using the wrong cable? Never seen smoke with serial or ethernet with the wrong cable and I've been known to mix my cables a bit. Jim Arnott jumped in and sidelined the subject under X-over

Re: Silliman [was] CAT 5 Cable?

2003-01-06 Thread Frederick Silliman
Sque wrote: Frederick Silliman wrote: Sque wrote: Do you have a answer to the question, what damage is caused by using the wrong cable? Never seen smoke with serial or ethernet with the wrong cable and I've been known to mix my cables a bit. Jim Arnott jumped in and

Re: X-over pinouts

2003-01-06 Thread Mark Benson
On Monday, Jan 6, 2003, at 04:25 Europe/London, Frederick Silliman wrote: Evidently you are not technically or electronically inclined. EXplination: Nothing moves in a wire with out power, regardless of how much or how little. Hence, the necessity of the + and the - requirements of the

Re: X-over pinouts

2003-01-06 Thread Frederick Silliman
Mark Benson wrote: On Monday, Jan 6, 2003, at 04:25 Europe/London, Frederick Silliman wrote: Evidently you are not technically or electronically inclined. EXplination: Nothing moves in a wire with out power, regardless of how much or how little. Hence, the necessity of the + and the -

Re: Silliman [was] CAT 5 Cable?

2003-01-06 Thread Frederick Silliman
Sque wrote: Frederick Silliman wrote: Sque wrote: Do you have a answer to the question, what damage is caused by using the wrong cable? Never seen smoke with serial or ethernet with the wrong cable and I've been known to mix my cables a bit. Jim Arnott jumped in and

Re: CAT 5 Cable?

2003-01-06 Thread vincenzo
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Re: CAT 5 Cable?

2003-01-06 Thread BrianH
Where can I get a pin description for the crossover as I have a 610 and an iMac I need to get to talk to each other and do not have a router yet? With the retaining clip down, looking into the plug from the 'wires go in here' end, left to right, one end is: Orange/White, Orange, Green/White,

Re: X-over pinouts

2003-01-06 Thread the pickle
At 23:25 -0500 on 05/01/03, Frederick Silliman wrote: Nothing moves in a wire with out power, regardless of how much or how little. Hence, the necessity of the + and the - requirements of the pin outs. Quality equipment will have voltage protection circuits, but the majority of the stuff on the

Re: Silliman [was] CAT 5 Cable?

2003-01-06 Thread the pickle
At 00:30 -0500 on 06/01/03, Frederick Silliman wrote: Michael Dawe wrote: on 05/01/2003, Frederick Silliman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snipped] No, I wouldn't want to overtax my intelligent ass. I think you're on the wrong list. Why didn't you include the portion of the message where

Re: Silliman [was] CAT 5 Cable?

2003-01-06 Thread the pickle
At 16:23 +1100 on 06/01/03, Michael Dawe wrote: on 05/01/2003, Frederick Silliman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snipped] No, I wouldn't want to overtax my intelligent ass. I think you're on the wrong list. Agreed. After giving it some more thoughtful consideration... Fred, get the out. I

Re: Silliman [was] CAT 5 Cable?

2003-01-06 Thread Frederick Silliman
the pickle wrote: At 16:23 +1100 on 06/01/03, Michael Dawe wrote: on 05/01/2003, Frederick Silliman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snipped] No, I wouldn't want to overtax my intelligent ass. I think you're on the wrong list. Agreed. After giving it some more thoughtful

Re: Silliman [was] CAT 5 Cable?

2003-01-06 Thread Paul Stamsen
At 7:54 -0500, 1/6/03, (the pickle) observed: Fred, get the (snip) pickle, That was not smart. Anyone else who gets into this is going to get the same treatment. -- Thanks, Paul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) the ^±^ weasel QuadList PCI PowerMacs nanny -- Quadlist is sponsored by

Disk problems

2003-01-06 Thread mriscott
Hi, Hope someone can help me with this: I have a quadra 800, with two disks, with OS8 on one, and OS7 on the other. This all worked fine and groovy - could swap boot disk via the startup control panel, etc. Then, I scrapped my OS 7 disk, and put AUX on it. However, I then couldn't boot off the

Auto Inject Floppy Drives

2003-01-06 Thread Flicker Flacker
Were auto inject floppy drives standard issue on any of the 040 machines? Will they work in an 040? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/

Re: Auto Inject Floppy Drives

2003-01-06 Thread R.A. Cantrell
on 1/6/03 7:55 AM, Flicker Flacker at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Were auto inject floppy drives standard issue on any of the 040 machines? Will they work in an 040? Q700 had auto-inject -- All the best, R.A. Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

Silliman [was] CAT 5 Cable?

2003-01-06 Thread J Sand
I am a tech student learning Macs now and the pin configuration is needed information for trouble shooting systems when normal users do the wrong things to the computers thinking they know what is going on inside of them. Sadly, the joke about the coffee cup holder not working is a reality in

Re: X-over pinouts

2003-01-06 Thread PeterH5322
In a message dated 1/6/03 12:42:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Even if the voltage, due to data transmission is only 1 volt, if it is a + (positive) 1 volt and you put it to a terminal that is expecting a - (negative) 1 volt, it will smoke, maybe just a little or maybe a lot. If it

Re: X-over pinouts

2003-01-06 Thread Mark Benson
On Monday, Jan 6, 2003, at 08:51 Europe/London, Frederick Silliman wrote: I'm a self-taught networker. I have wired a few cables up wrong (in the beginning at least) and never managed to blow any of my kit up. I would have thought equipment would have been built with idiot tolerance for

Re: Silliman [was] CAT 5 Cable?

2003-01-06 Thread Michael Dawe
on 06/01/2003, Frederick Silliman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Dawe wrote: on 05/01/2003, Frederick Silliman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snipped] No, I wouldn't want to overtax my intelligent ass. I think you're on the wrong list. Why didn't you include the portion of the

MacUSer and pre 1995 Mac Magz

2003-01-06 Thread Dan Palka
Does anyone know if there is like an online archive of the old MacUser magazines, or any of the old mac magazines from before 1995. I want read some reviews of some of my machines from when they were new I think that would be interesting. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...