Re: '030 and '040 question

2002-12-26 Thread dana sibera
  Have you tried any faster than 50MHz?  I actually plan on doing 
  the same
  thing with my IIfx, though I was hoping to get a little past 50MHz.
 
 FYI the fastest 030 upgrades ever made for Commadore Amigas were 50MHz, 
 anything significantly more was pretty well impossible without a small 
 cooling plant.

You've reminded me of the burnmark left on the white painted desk I used to use with 
my Amiga :). As the CPU upgrade
went face-down underneath the computer, it sat about 2/8 of an inch above the desk. It 
sent the paint brown and would
shine skin when touched, it ran that hot!

It worked well for at least 6 years all the same, and used very regularly. Happy 
li8ttle frying pans, those cpus!. 

dana
-- 
http://www.danamania.com/
--


-- 
Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
 -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

Quadlist info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml
The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: '030 and '040 question

2002-12-26 Thread PsycoPunkn
Im not talking signifigantly faster.  Just whatever extra MHz are 
possible.  I dont imagine that 55MHz is unreasonable, especially with extra 
cooling.

Thanks

Chris

In a message dated 12/26/02 3:17:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 FYI the fastest 030 upgrades ever made for Commadore Amigas were 50MHz, 
anything significantly more was pretty well impossible without a small 
cooling plant.
 

-- 
Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
 -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

Quadlist info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml
The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: '030 and '040 question

2002-12-26 Thread the pickle
At 00:49 -0500 on 26/12/02, Scott Holder wrote:

At 12:18 AM 12/26/2002 -0500, you wrote:
 Does anybody know what the fastest 68030 and 68040 chips were.  I guess
MicroMac used a 40MHz 68040 chipped to run at 50MHz.  So is 40MHz the fastest
for a 68040?  There are 50MHz 68030 upgrades too.  Are those rated at 50MHz?
Anything I missed?

Thanks

Chris

 From what I've read, there have been some quite faster '040s and '060s
than we've ever seen in Macs, as well as '030s. Of course we've never seen
an '060 in a Mac stock.

I have a 50mhz Diimo upgrade in my IIci, though it's rated at 40mhz. Not
sure if there has ever been a real '030 faster than 40mhz or not.

The 50 MHz Daystar PowerCache upgrades definitely had 50 MHz 030s, and optional
50 MHz 68882s.

40 MHz was the top of the line for the 68040, though the 68060 got up to at
least 60 MHz.
-- 

the pickle

FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml
_

-- 
Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
 -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

Quadlist info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml
The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: '030 and '040 question

2002-12-26 Thread the pickle
At 13:32 -0500 on 26/12/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Have you tried any faster than 50MHz?  I actually plan on doing the same
thing with my IIfx, though I was hoping to get a little past 50MHz.

Using 50 MHz-rated chips, at least one person has achieved success at 55 MHz in
a IIfx.

Past that is going to require some creative cooling.
-- 

the pickle

FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml
_

-- 
Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
 -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

Quadlist info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml
The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: '030 and '040 question

2002-12-26 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix
On Thu, Dec 26, 2002 at 12:49:48AM -0500, Scott Holder wrote:

 From what I've read, there have been some quite faster '040s and '060s 
 than we've ever seen in Macs, as well as '030s. Of course we've never seen 
 an '060 in a Mac stock.

The 68k series is still made.  Most sold have embedded communications
services since that's a common use of them.  Look up Coldfire on the
net somewhere.

Technically speaking, Motorola should be capable of making some very, very
fast 68k CPUs, but I doubt there is much market for doing so.

I believe though, they do sell Coldfires up to 220MHz.

 I have a 50mhz Diimo upgrade in my IIci, though it's rated at 40mhz. Not 
 sure if there has ever been a real '030 faster than 40mhz or not.

I have a real 50MHz '030 in my Mac IIci.


-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 
Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
 -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

Quadlist info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml
The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: '030 and '040 question

2002-12-26 Thread the pickle
At 21:00 -0700 on 26/12/02, Dean Arthur wrote:

Mac IIfx has 68030-40 MHz. Sonnet had a 68030-50 MHz clip-on.

So did NewerTech; I have one but have never installed it because I don't have
any instructions and it isn't obvious how to install it :)
-- 

the pickle

FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml
_

-- 
Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
 -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

Quadlist info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml
The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: '030 and '040 question

2002-12-26 Thread Scott Holder
At 11:53 PM 12/26/2002 -0500, you wrote:
At 21:00 -0700 on 26/12/02, Dean Arthur wrote:

 Mac IIfx has 68030-40 MHz. Sonnet had a 68030-50 MHz clip-on.

So did NewerTech; I have one but have never installed it because I don't have
any instructions and it isn't obvious how to install it :)

My IIfx, when I got it, came with some kind of 50mhz accellerator with a 
bunch of jumper wires running all over the place. Only problem was, one was 
loose, and in my attempt to reconnect it I only managed to disconnect quite 
a few more :( . So now its sitting in the basement, awaiting something to 
happen. I may try reviving it or something.  Anybody got a cheap IIfx 
motherboard? :)

Scott Holder


-- 
Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
 -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

Quadlist info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml
The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




'030 and '040 question

2002-12-25 Thread PsycoPunkn
Does anybody know what the fastest 68030 and 68040 chips were.  I guess 
MicroMac used a 40MHz 68040 chipped to run at 50MHz.  So is 40MHz the fastest 
for a 68040?  There are 50MHz 68030 upgrades too.  Are those rated at 50MHz?  
Anything I missed?

Thanks

Chris

-- 
Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
 -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

Quadlist info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml
The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: '030 and '040 question

2002-12-25 Thread Scott Holder
At 12:18 AM 12/26/2002 -0500, you wrote:
 Does anybody know what the fastest 68030 and 68040 chips were.  I guess
MicroMac used a 40MHz 68040 chipped to run at 50MHz.  So is 40MHz the fastest
for a 68040?  There are 50MHz 68030 upgrades too.  Are those rated at 50MHz?
Anything I missed?

Thanks

Chris

 From what I've read, there have been some quite faster '040s and '060s 
than we've ever seen in Macs, as well as '030s. Of course we've never seen 
an '060 in a Mac stock.

I have a 50mhz Diimo upgrade in my IIci, though it's rated at 40mhz. Not 
sure if there has ever been a real '030 faster than 40mhz or not.

Scott Holder


-- 
Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
 -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

Quadlist info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml
The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com




Re: '030 and '040 question

2002-12-25 Thread Stefan Daehler
ORIGINAL MESSAGE:


50Mhz rated 030s certainly existed - but as for which speed were used in 
which accelerators, I can't say. I have a
CSA 12-gauge accelerator (50Mhz 68030) for an Amiga 1200 that's no longer 
alive, and the CPU itself has the big 50
stamped on it.

The DayStar 50 MHz PowerCache for the IIci had a GENUINE 50 MHz 68030 as 
well. I transplanted the processor into my IIfx and replaced the clock 
oscillator by a 100 MHz-one.

Steff

-- 
Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com   | Enter To Win A |
 -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299   |  Free iBook!   |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

Quadlist info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml
The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/

Using a Mac? Free email  more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com