Re: Q610 (was RE: CPU Chip Speed)

2002-12-31 Thread J Sand
  In a 610, the CPU chip is very close to
 the power supply and that is a determining factor on the size of the heat
 sink.
actually when I replaced the chip it was on the complete opposite side of
the MB than the power supply and I don't think anything else was in the way

but when I bought the chip I was told it didn't need a heat sink so I 
dunno...

My mistake, it was the hard drive and cables near the chip.

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Re: Q610 (was RE: CPU Chip Speed)

2002-12-31 Thread otto hansen
My mistake, it was the hard drive and cables near the chip.
ahh yes the cables could possibly get in the way (or melt themselves on the
heatsink) but I think I have to build a new case for the 610 anyways in
order to make room for a fullheight drive and aditional powersupply (and a
few ccfl tubes)

otto


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Re: Q610 (was RE: CPU Chip Speed)

2002-12-29 Thread the pickle
At 00:15 -0500 on 29/12/02, Scott Holder wrote:

At 10:49 PM 12/28/2002 -0500, you wrote:

Yes.  You *need* the heatsink for the full 040 if you want it to keep working
longer than a few hours.

Well, I dunno about this. I have a 33mhz '040 with no heatsink in my Q605
running at 33mhz that had a 40 day uptime until my landlady decided to go
fiddling with the circuit breakers.

You got lucky.  The Mac OS doesn't use the FPU much, but if you run anything
that *does* use the FPU even a little bit, that full 040 will heat up like
vinyl seats in summer.
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Re: Q610 (was RE: CPU Chip Speed)

2002-12-29 Thread the pickle
At 22:05 -0600 on 28/12/02, otto hansen wrote:

wow...well im glad I found this out..

would it work fine to take any heat sink that was big enough and just
attatch it with thermal glue?

I don't trust thermal glue any further than I can throw it, especially because
it's usually next to impossible to undo once applied.

Spend the extra time to get the right heatsink for it.  Most 486 heatsinks will
also work with a bit of fiddling, at least a lot better than thermal glue would.
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Re: Q610 (was RE: CPU Chip Speed)

2002-12-29 Thread otto hansen
 In a 610, the CPU chip is very close to
the power supply and that is a determining factor on the size of the heat
sink.
actually when I replaced the chip it was on the complete opposite side of
the MB than the powersupply and I dont think anything else was in the way

but when I bought the chip I was told it didnt need a heatsink so I dunno...


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Re: Q610 (was RE: CPU Chip Speed)

2002-12-28 Thread the pickle
At 20:06 -0600 on 28/12/02, otto hansen wrote:

if I replaced the LC040 in my 610 with a full 040 should I find a heatsink
for it?  it will be running all of the time and I would prefer not to damage

Yes.  You *need* the heatsink for the full 040 if you want it to keep working
longer than a few hours.

the chip, also, what heatsinks would I attempt to modify or attatch to this

You can usually find 040 heatsinks on eBay or Swaplist.
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Re: Q610 (was RE: CPU Chip Speed)

2002-12-28 Thread Scott Holder
At 10:49 PM 12/28/2002 -0500, you wrote:

Yes.  You *need* the heatsink for the full 040 if you want it to keep working
longer than a few hours.

Well, I dunno about this. I have a 33mhz '040 with no heatsink in my Q605 
running at 33mhz that had a 40 day uptime until my landlady decided to go 
fiddling with the circuit breakers.

That said a heatsink never hurts.

Scott Holder


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Re: Q610 (was RE: CPU Chip Speed)

2002-12-28 Thread J Sand

if I replaced the LC040 in my 610 with a full 040 should I find a heat sink
for it?  it will be running all of the time and I would prefer not to 
damage
the chip, also, what heat sinks would I attempt to modify or attach to this
chip?

Any heat sink will work provided that it covers the chip completely.  Your 
only limitation is to whether or not the heat sink will fit with all of the 
other components inside the case.  In a 610, the CPU chip is very close to 
the power supply and that is a determining factor on the size of the heat 
sink.  Make sure to use a thermal grease for good heat transfer from the 
chip to the heat sink.

John

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