Re: [Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side

2023-04-26 Thread Mick L 
New mount was pretty easy to fab up thankfully although I added the original 
ford nut by accident ooops haha.


From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com  on behalf 
of Darren Siepka 
Sent: 24 April 2023 08:17
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side

Tbh when the Q were designed 40 yrs ago the parts were plentiful new from ford 
and they do last a very long time, even now OEM generally don't put removable 
rubber into engine mounts.

On Mon, 24 Apr 2023, 08:31 Mick L, 
mailto:lawson.m...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Not what I wanted to hear. More time taking work for a car needed for work next 
week.

Someone needs to change this design as the mounts are hard to come by and the 
idea of them needing such modification when so rare seems silly. I  amazed it 
was so poorly designed that the rubber inserts where not removable once the 
mount was modded for longevity.


From: 'Paul S Quantum' via Quantum Owners Group 
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Sent: 23 April 2023 20:22
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com<mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side


No the rubber parts do not remove normally. The top upper engine mount require 
a couple of modifications.

It requires one of the tabs cutting off and a small extension welding onto the 
bottom of the mount so the lower mounting hole is moved onto the welded 
extension piece.



The mounts were normally exchanged by QSC when the kit was bought but the 
change is not that big even if you need to pay someone to modify the mount for 
you.

Best using your original as a template.



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From: Mick L<mailto:lawson.m...@hotmail.com>
Sent: 23 April 2023 20:29
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com<mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side



The  mounts on this are all shot. I've got two new gearbox ends sorted but the 
main mount is modded compared to the xr2 according to Sb.



Do the rubber Interbals come out of standard mounts to fit into the modded 
units?



Thanks

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side

2023-04-24 Thread Mick L 
It's well shot like everything in this sadly. I am out of cash now beyond my 
paint budget that's it's now sadly. No new rad or tyres right size.

Ive sourced mounts for tomorow thankfully. I can weld ( been sick of it is a 
reason for a quantum in alot of ways haha)

I'll have to mod it to suit then fair enough. I am really scraping the mental 
health tank now.

2 weeks out of work, nothing left in the tank, a engine on the floor and no 
money left...nightmare


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of Jim Hearne 
Sent: 24 April 2023 08:08
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side

The rubber is moulded around the metalwork when the mount is made, no way of 
making it removable.
And as Chris said, it wasn’t possible to use the Ford mount unmodified on the 
CVH
The Quantum Mk2 Saloon was originally based on a Mk1 Fiesta with the crossflow 
engine and i believe it’s mounting did fit without modification.
Unfortunately when they switched to the Mk2 Fiesta the CVH mounting didn’t.

Are you sure the top mount needs replacing, they seem to last a lot better than 
the gearbox mounts, maybe it’s something you can do later ?

I have to say when i’m doing modifications on my Quantums i always try to 
modify parts that won’t need replacing at some point but not always feasible, 
like this engine mount.

Jim


From: Mick L
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2023 8:31 AM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side

Not what I wanted to hear. More time taking work for a car needed for work next 
week.

Someone needs to change this design as the mounts are hard to come by and the 
idea of them needing such modification when so rare seems silly. I  amazed it 
was so poorly designed that the rubber inserts where not removable once the 
mount was modded for longevity.


From: 'Paul S Quantum' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: 23 April 2023 20:22
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side


No the rubber parts do not remove normally. The top upper engine mount require 
a couple of modifications.

It requires one of the tabs cutting off and a small extension welding onto the 
bottom of the mount so the lower mounting hole is moved onto the welded 
extension piece.



The mounts were normally exchanged by QSC when the kit was bought but the 
change is not that big even if you need to pay someone to modify the mount for 
you.

Best using your original as a template.



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From: Mick L
Sent: 23 April 2023 20:29
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side



The  mounts on this are all shot. I've got two new gearbox ends sorted but the 
main mount is modded compared to the xr2 according to Sb.



Do the rubber Interbals come out of standard mounts to fit into the modded 
units?



Thanks

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side

2023-04-24 Thread Darren Siepka 
Tbh when the Q were designed 40 yrs ago the parts were plentiful new from
ford and they do last a very long time, even now OEM generally don't put
removable rubber into engine mounts.

On Mon, 24 Apr 2023, 08:31 Mick L,  wrote:

> Not what I wanted to hear. More time taking work for a car needed for work
> next week.
>
> Someone needs to change this design as the mounts are hard to come by and
> the idea of them needing such modification when so rare seems silly. I
> amazed it was so poorly designed that the rubber inserts where not
> removable once the mount was modded for longevity.
>
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> *From:* 'Paul S Quantum' via Quantum Owners Group <
> quantumowners@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* 23 April 2023 20:22
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* RE: [Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side
>
>
> No the rubber parts do not remove normally. The top upper engine mount
> require a couple of modifications.
>
> It requires one of the tabs cutting off and a small extension welding onto
> the bottom of the mount so the lower mounting hole is moved onto the welded
> extension piece.
>
>
>
> The mounts were normally exchanged by QSC when the kit was bought but the
> change is not that big even if you need to pay someone to modify the mount
> for you.
>
> Best using your original as a template.
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows
>
>
>
> *From: *Mick L 
> *Sent: *23 April 2023 20:29
> *To: *quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *[Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side
>
>
>
> The  mounts on this are all shot. I've got two new gearbox ends sorted but
> the main mount is modded compared to the xr2 according to Sb.
>
>
>
> Do the rubber Interbals come out of standard mounts to fit into the modded
> units?
>
>
>
> Thanks
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side

2023-04-24 Thread Jim Hearne 
The rubber is moulded around the metalwork when the mount is made, no way of 
making it removable.
And as Chris said, it wasn’t possible to use the Ford mount unmodified on the 
CVH
The Quantum Mk2 Saloon was originally based on a Mk1 Fiesta with the crossflow 
engine and i believe it’s mounting did fit without modification.
Unfortunately when they switched to the Mk2 Fiesta the CVH mounting didn’t.

Are you sure the top mount needs replacing, they seem to last a lot better than 
the gearbox mounts, maybe it’s something you can do later ?

I have to say when i’m doing modifications on my Quantums i always try to 
modify parts that won’t need replacing at some point but not always feasible, 
like this engine mount.

Jim


From: Mick L 
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2023 8:31 AM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side

Not what I wanted to hear. More time taking work for a car needed for work next 
week. 

Someone needs to change this design as the mounts are hard to come by and the 
idea of them needing such modification when so rare seems silly. I  amazed it 
was so poorly designed that the rubber inserts where not removable once the 
mount was modded for longevity.




From: 'Paul S Quantum' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: 23 April 2023 20:22
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side 

No the rubber parts do not remove normally. The top upper engine mount require 
a couple of modifications.

It requires one of the tabs cutting off and a small extension welding onto the 
bottom of the mount so the lower mounting hole is moved onto the welded 
extension piece.



The mounts were normally exchanged by QSC when the kit was bought but the 
change is not that big even if you need to pay someone to modify the mount for 
you.

Best using your original as a template.



Sent from Mail for Windows



From: Mick L
Sent: 23 April 2023 20:29
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side



The  mounts on this are all shot. I've got two new gearbox ends sorted but the 
main mount is modded compared to the xr2 according to Sb.



Do the rubber Interbals come out of standard mounts to fit into the modded 
units?



Thanks

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side

2023-04-24 Thread 'chris.p...@btinternet.com' via Quantum Owners Group 
I believe the mount needs to be modded to match up with the stress points of 
the shell. So the only way to “fix” it is to change the shape of the body 
shell. Have fun with that...

From: Mick L 
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2023 8:31 AM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side

Not what I wanted to hear. More time taking work for a car needed for work next 
week. 

Someone needs to change this design as the mounts are hard to come by and the 
idea of them needing such modification when so rare seems silly. I  amazed it 
was so poorly designed that the rubber inserts where not removable once the 
mount was modded for longevity.




From: 'Paul S Quantum' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: 23 April 2023 20:22
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side 

No the rubber parts do not remove normally. The top upper engine mount require 
a couple of modifications.

It requires one of the tabs cutting off and a small extension welding onto the 
bottom of the mount so the lower mounting hole is moved onto the welded 
extension piece.



The mounts were normally exchanged by QSC when the kit was bought but the 
change is not that big even if you need to pay someone to modify the mount for 
you.

Best using your original as a template.



Sent from Mail for Windows



From: Mick L
Sent: 23 April 2023 20:29
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side



The  mounts on this are all shot. I've got two new gearbox ends sorted but the 
main mount is modded compared to the xr2 according to Sb.



Do the rubber Interbals come out of standard mounts to fit into the modded 
units?



Thanks

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side

2023-04-24 Thread Mick L 
Not what I wanted to hear. More time taking work for a car needed for work next 
week.

Someone needs to change this design as the mounts are hard to come by and the 
idea of them needing such modification when so rare seems silly. I  amazed it 
was so poorly designed that the rubber inserts where not removable once the 
mount was modded for longevity.


From: 'Paul S Quantum' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: 23 April 2023 20:22
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side


No the rubber parts do not remove normally. The top upper engine mount require 
a couple of modifications.

It requires one of the tabs cutting off and a small extension welding onto the 
bottom of the mount so the lower mounting hole is moved onto the welded 
extension piece.



The mounts were normally exchanged by QSC when the kit was bought but the 
change is not that big even if you need to pay someone to modify the mount for 
you.

Best using your original as a template.



Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows



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Sent: 23 April 2023 20:29
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com<mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side



The  mounts on this are all shot. I've got two new gearbox ends sorted but the 
main mount is modded compared to the xr2 according to Sb.



Do the rubber Interbals come out of standard mounts to fit into the modded 
units?



Thanks

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side

2023-04-24 Thread 'Paul S Quantum' via Quantum Owners Group 
No the rubber parts do not remove normally. The top upper engine mount require 
a couple of modifications.
It requires one of the tabs cutting off and a small extension welding onto the 
bottom of the mount so the lower mounting hole is moved onto the welded 
extension piece.

The mounts were normally exchanged by QSC when the kit was bought but the 
change is not that big even if you need to pay someone to modify the mount for 
you.
Best using your original as a template.

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From: Mick L
Sent: 23 April 2023 20:29
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side

The  mounts on this are all shot. I've got two new gearbox ends sorted but the 
main mount is modded compared to the xr2 according to Sb.

Do the rubber Interbals come out of standard mounts to fit into the modded 
units?

Thanks
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side

2023-04-23 Thread Jim Hearne 
The modification required is to the rubber section of the mounting, the 
bit you need to replace.
A lug is cut off and another lug is extended downwards by welding on an 
extra section.

You may be able to cut the extra section off your old mount.
It is covered in the Saloon build manual, page 18 of my copy.

It is worth replacing the gearbox mounts with Diesel versions as they 
are a bit longer lasting.


Jim

On 23/04/2023 20:29, Mick L wrote:
The  mounts on this are all shot. I've got two new gearbox ends sorted 
but the main mount is modded compared to the xr2 according to Sb.


Do the rubber Interbals come out of standard mounts to fit into the 
modded units?


Thanks
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[Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side

2023-04-23 Thread Mick L 
The  mounts on this are all shot. I've got two new gearbox ends sorted but the 
main mount is modded compared to the xr2 according to Sb.

Do the rubber Interbals come out of standard mounts to fit into the modded 
units?

Thanks

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