Thank you to everyone who has helped me in the last mails. I have finally decided to buy a NovaCustomes Laptop that is Qubes certified and as expected, that works very well with Qubes 4.2.
All the best Kai On Wednesday 20 December 2023 at 16:50:12 UTC Catacombs wrote: > hi, sorry if it was wrong, but I sent your home email from a proton > account. It might have gone to spam. > > The Qubes OS group just released Qubes 4.2 Final, which might accomplish > install more ---directly. > > I usually haunt the Qubes Forum.https://forum.qubes-os.org/, where you > might get more responses to your questions. > > Besides from getting your current laptop to work with the latest Qubes 4.2 > Final (released yesterday). and doing so for kinda of experiment. And i > say this for others reading this post besides you: is to purchase a > laptop which is well known to work with Qubes. > > The Lenovo Thinkpad X-230 or Thinkpad X-430. Yes one must get at least > 8 GB RAM, and it is an old processor (third generation Intel) But you can > probably acquire one for two hundred (American) dollars. in nearly any > country in the world. Those who need an inexpensive can buy one of these > and modify it to be a very secure computer by installing Heads to verify > tampering. If one looks at the website of Insurgo, he provides the details > of what he does to modify these computers. These modified Lenovo > Thinkpad X-230, or X-430. are sold by Nitro Key with some offerings of > the later hardware of their own build. In addition, Purism, Librem sells > new laptops meant to be used with Qubes. Puri , it is rumored, is about to > start selling a new model. > > Documentation. As the Qubes 4.2 Final is just out, the effort to > -re-create documentation is underway. Much of Qubes discussions, (I read, > is now on Git-Hub, rather than the Forum-Qubes. > > Qubes OS , by design, keeps some devices, like camera, laptop internal > microphone and such from being available to a Qube unless the computer > operater specifically authorises it. I have not heard of any one who > wanted to connect those things via USB. Keeping in mind that USB is > considered a security hazard, plus it is likely no security expert ever > audited the specific device you are connecting, USB Camera. USB > Microphone. and so on. USB Hub having the potential security risk. Some > might say a USB mouse as well being a security risk. > > Someone emailed to me, he knows a lot of journalists, and none will use > Qubes because of, it is more of a hackers thing. If one has like a > University degree in Computer Science, using Qubes is likely pretty easy to > understand, and perhaps use. For a Journalist, well, they think different, > and lack a lot of hacker training. > > If an individual is a Human Rights Defender, one might use "The Anonymous > Incognito Linux System" Tails OS. https://tails.net/ > > However some might say that by getting on Tor, in some countries, marks > the person logging into Tor to the government surveillance. Then mistakes > in using Tor would further risk. . . . yes, I have heard of Tor Bridges. > but I would guess that Authoritarian Government surveillance minders > constantly mine Bridge login locations. I read of some fellow who used a > bit of software to establish , on a server outside his country to create > his own personal login start. I would hesitate to give explanations > because of the risks involved. in that as well... > > I was told that many of those in Chinese Prisons posted their statements > negative to their society, posted them on Facebook. Some governments have > a low tolerance for criticism. > > I would hope that the new documentation for Installing Qubes OS, would > include a wiki of Troubleshooting, what to expect from the install when. > > Most of my easy installs were to computers in 'Legacy Mode' UEFI installs > can seem problematic, but since I have no experience with that. > > Keep in mind. Qubes OS expects to be installed as the only OS on the > computer. No sharing. Qubes OS is installed what is called bare metal. > If you are trying to do some kind of dual boot, you might get it to work. > But it might entail more work. I read that it is a security issue if there > is another OS on the same computer. Keep in mind that there is now malware > which installs to the boot of the computer. There is also LOGO-fail > malware. > > Check for you model on the HCL, "Hardware Compatibility List" > https://www.qubes-os.org/hcl/ to see if there is any discussion of > issues, how they could be solved. Sometimes it is a matter of a directive > the graphics card requires.. > > Go through the requirements of the computer you have with the list. If I > has virtualization enabled. Test it , somehow. I found I had computer > where, while the BIOS/EFI had the virtualization turned on. I had to > restart it like three times to get, the OS I had installed to test > Virtualization, to acknowledge it. Might have been the OS, not the BIOS. > But I could take it off my list. > > There are several things to try if your computer is not a Legacy install. > Like I said, I have not used UEFI, and my computers secure boot system > turned on. I think there is a specific program to write the boot before > starting install. in Git-Hub. and an option for UEFI problems at the > beginning of the Install. > > > I would really suggest you try Qubes OS 4.2 Final before giving up. The > Developers apparently fixed some things that might help this to work. > > The computer I had the most trouble with was a Librem 13v2, Qubes 4.2 RC2 > would install easily, others balked. I could install Qubes 4.2RC2 (yes > that is two, months ago) and update, update, update. > > I finally used, Ubuntu 20.3, Gparted to format the SSD, and the second > empty drive. Set SSD flag to boot. I used my latest USB drive, (fastest) > (which I did the slow version of format (FAT32) on windows 10 (I did not > see a Linux option) I was thinking the fast format only did the top of the > drive and the partition table. and the thing might trip over is own feet, > something in the file system on USB drive. That format went a long, long > time. I installed Qubes 4.2RC5 to the USB drive using the program used by > Mint Linux 20.x (latest, updated) "USB image writer" > > I felt trying to install Qubes 4.2 RC5 on top of another OS might be a > problem. So yes, I repeat. I blanked the drive. > > I once had problems trying to have both of the disks in the Librem 13V2 to > boot up. (it uses PureBoot, a proprietary BIOS/EFI) I guessed the > problems I had experienced with Qubes 4.2 RC5 (yes five, not final) had > to do with the speed the installed polled the drives to figure out what to > do. > > Worked. I don't know which option. > > The Qubes Installer for 4.2 Final shows up to install on top of drive in > Librem now. Our Developers did something. thanks guys. > > What I hope we can put on the Wiki, although only some need all the > detail, is things like where some event in the install process takes time, > and one waits for it. > > > > On Monday, November 27, 2023 at 1:23:55 PM UTC-6 Kai wrote: > >> Greetings! >> >> in qubes-os 4.2 rc4, autodetect of the installation source would no >> longer work, but I could successfully choose in the second option the >> installation source by choosing the drive and then from that drive the >> directory and iso file. >> >> In qubes-os 4.2 rc5, autodetect still doesn’t work, but now we also have >> no more the possibility to choose a drive, that second option is gone. >> >> I percieve this to be a regression (it leads me not to be able to test >> rc5). >> >> Ps: my test machine is still my thinkpad p15 gen2, but I guess that it >> won’t matter in this specific case. >> >> All the best >> Kai Froeb, São Martinho de Porto >> Http://Kai.froeb.net >> >> This email was sent from my smartphone, so I apologise for the brevity >> and any clerical errors. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/5e5d73a3-df63-479f-8514-5a49f03cf18bn%40googlegroups.com.
