Re: [qubes-users] Qubes & Quantum decryption Immunity

2017-11-13 Thread Vít Šesták
Hello, I'll react to multiple questions and statements from multiple people. > A figure I heard was that qc can cut search time for symmetric key merely in > half, whereas its can cut time for asymmetric key by orders of magnitude.  No. For symmetric key, it does not halve the time. It works

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes & Quantum decryption Immunity

2017-11-13 Thread eliott . teissonniere
Speaking of quantum network, it is doable, for instance you can check araknet.eliott.tech -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes & Quantum decryption Immunity

2017-11-12 Thread Sandy Harris
On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: >>> Would be simpler off the bat to limit discussion to asymmetric crypto, >>> as that is the type thought to be vulnerable to qc. LUKS/dmcrypt and >>> most other disk encryption uses symmetric crypto. >>> >>> I believe

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes & Quantum decryption Immunity

2017-11-12 Thread Leo Gaspard
On 11/12/2017 10:43 AM, Yuraeitha wrote: >> As for quantum networks, they are slightly more obtainable than, say, >> moon rockets. > > [...] > Given the fiber internet network might be able to carry these signals, it's > not farfetched to imagine we'll start to have portions of Quantum internet

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes & Quantum decryption Immunity

2017-11-12 Thread Yuraeitha
@ Chris Laprise On Saturday, November 11, 2017 at 11:22:37 PM UTC, Chris Laprise wrote: > On 11/11/2017 08:31 AM, Yuraeitha wrote: > > On Saturday, November 11, 2017 at 12:44:54 PM UTC, Chris Laprise wrote: > >> On 11/10/2017 05:51 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > >>> In this case you should ask the

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes & Quantum decryption Immunity

2017-11-11 Thread Chris Laprise
On 11/11/2017 08:31 AM, Yuraeitha wrote: On Saturday, November 11, 2017 at 12:44:54 PM UTC, Chris Laprise wrote: On 11/10/2017 05:51 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: In this case you should ask the luks/dmcrypt mailinglist as that is what qubes uses for disk crypto. Would be simpler off the bat to

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes & Quantum decryption Immunity

2017-11-11 Thread Vít Šesták
QC is a potential threat for both symmetric and asymmetric cryptography, just the symmetric cryptography is threatened quite a bit more. And even asymmetric cryptography is important for QubesOS security because of update signatures. Symmetric cryptography is threatened by Grover's algorithm.

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes & Quantum decryption Immunity

2017-11-11 Thread Yuraeitha
On Saturday, November 11, 2017 at 12:44:54 PM UTC, Chris Laprise wrote: > On 11/10/2017 05:51 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > > In this case you should ask the luks/dmcrypt mailinglist as that is > > what qubes uses for disk crypto. > > > > Would be simpler off the bat to limit discussion to

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes & Quantum decryption Immunity

2017-11-11 Thread Chris Laprise
On 11/10/2017 05:51 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: In this case you should ask the luks/dmcrypt mailinglist as that is what qubes uses for disk crypto. Would be simpler off the bat to limit discussion to asymmetric crypto, as that is the type thought to be vulnerable to qc. LUKS/dmcrypt and

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes & Quantum decryption Immunity

2017-11-11 Thread Yuraeitha
On Friday, November 10, 2017 at 10:29:48 PM UTC, Sandy Harris wrote: > On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Yuraeitha wrote: > > > Either way, cryptography protected by "structure", should be safe against a > > quantum computer, no? while all encryption without structure, would

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes & Quantum decryption Immunity

2017-11-11 Thread Yuraeitha
@ Sandy Harris On Friday, November 10, 2017 at 10:29:48 PM UTC, Sandy Harris wrote: > On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Yuraeitha wrote: > > > Either way, cryptography protected by "structure", should be safe against a > > quantum computer, no? while all encryption without

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes & Quantum decryption Immunity

2017-11-10 Thread taii...@gmx.com
In this case you should ask the luks/dmcrypt mailinglist as that is what qubes uses for disk crypto. I doubt anyone here bar the internets favorite folk hero "kedward howden" would piss off some company/government enough for them to spend the hundreds of thousands of dollars one to rent such

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes & Quantum decryption Immunity

2017-11-10 Thread Sandy Harris
On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Yuraeitha wrote: > Either way, cryptography protected by "structure", should be safe against a > quantum computer, no? while all encryption without structure, would be > extremely vulnerable to quantum computers? I am not sure what you

[qubes-users] Qubes & Quantum decryption Immunity

2017-11-10 Thread Yuraeitha
With news, like the 50-bit Quantum computer by IBM announced earlier today, for now only cable to run over over 90 seconds, concerns over the safety of encryption appears to be slowly increasing.