Hello,

>> I hope we can still use a gui with mouse
>> clicks to do this stuff in 4.0 lmao....

I also hope that there is a replacement for Qubes Manager as (even as regular 
Qubes 3.2 User) Qubes 4.x feels much more complicated, compared to 3.2.

The Qubes Manager which was running on an own Workspace was the best way to see 
what is going on with one glance.
It was also possible to make adaptions to several VMs in one go.
If I want to switch the Net Template for 3 VMs it is much easier doing so from 
Qubes Manager instead of opening the upper left menu and click through the 
submenus to open AppVM Preferences.

>> Otherwise once 3.2 is eol, my family
>> will find other solutions...

As it seems more users have issues with the current release (VMs not starting) 
and because of hardware dependencies I hope that 4 0 get "fixed".
I don't want to buy new hardware for Qubes 4 as I like to stay with Coreboot 
and the possible hardware which has enough power, is in 12" form factor and 
support Coreboot AND (!) Qubes 4.x seems to be small.

I still don't know if my X230 + Coreboot will run 4.x
Thereof I have also migrated back to 3.2.

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