[qubes-users] Possible to fix? Qubes (4.0 and earlier) freezes on sleep on a System76 Oryx Pro laptop

[Bryan Beus]

New to Qubes. Hope I can get it to work. Would love to be a part of the 
community.


Laptop is System76 Oryx Pro

Core i7 7700 2.80 Ghz


If the system goes to sleep, when you try to wake it the display remains dark.


Otherwise, Qubes seems to work fine.

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Re: [qubes-users] storing window layout? (qubes-manager for example?)

[Ivan Mitev]

On 11/30/18 4:35 AM, n1ete wrote:

Is there a way to store the Window Layout from different dom0 applications? or 
at least for Qubes Manager? i pull pretty often the panes to the right size, 
just to do it after an reboot again. not that its that important tough but 
it would be nice to save this amount of personalisation :D


Long ago I used devilspie for that purpose.

I just checked, Fedora packages it so you can install it in dom0 with:

sudo qubes-dom0-update devilspie

See this guide for configuration (it's for ubuntu but that shouldn't 
really matter):


https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie

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[qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 3.2.1-rc1 has been released!

[Steve Phillips]

> If you're currently using an up-to-date Qubes 3.2 installation, then 
> your system is already equivalent to a Qubes 3.2.1 installation. No 
> action is needed.

Are you sure? I am on Qubes 3.2 and have installed all updates, yet whenever I 
boot up I still receive a warning about using Whonix 13 rather than 14. And 
when I go to create a new VM, my options of TemplateVM include Debian 8 and 
Fedora 23, but not Debian 9 nor Fedora 29.

Is there something we can do to force such an upgrade? Thanks.

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Re: [qubes-users] Tor still doesn't work in the new Qubes 3.2.1

[elimisteve]

> Qubes-Whonix support ending for Qubes 3.2(.1) - upgrade to Qubes R4.0 or
> above required.

I don't think that is correct. Qubes 3.2 support is now gone, yes, but Qubes 
3.2.1 support is not since 3.2.1 runs Whonix 14: 
https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2018/11/12/qubes-321/ .

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[qubes-users] Re: network question

[n1ete]

Am Mittwoch, 28. November 2018 21:25:26 UTC+1 schrieb haaber:
> Sometimes, I need to acces my local net (192.168.1.X) via ssh, say. That 
> usually finishes with "no route to host" (even in sys-net that has a 
> 192.168.1.Y address) which is annoying. What do I miss? How shall I do 
> it right (doing anything inside sys-net seems a BAD idea anyhow).
> Thank you, Bernhard

if you create your vpn proxy template from a minimal image, dont forget to 
install besides the "qubes-tunnel" package also the 
"qubes-core-agent-networking" package.
that solved the same issue for me at least

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[qubes-users] storing window layout? (qubes-manager for example?)

[n1ete]

Is there a way to store the Window Layout from different dom0 applications? or 
at least for Qubes Manager? i pull pretty often the panes to the right size, 
just to do it after an reboot again. not that its that important tough but 
it would be nice to save this amount of personalisation :D

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix GW & WS upgrade failed (Help)

[William Fisher]

After reinstalling Qubes 4.0 without Whonix, I installed Whonix with : 
https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Install

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix GW & WS upgrade failed (Help)

[William Fisher]

I gave up and reinstalled Qubes 4.0 without Whonix/Anon then loaded the “Stable 
version of Whonix 14” then recovered  my Backed-up VMs that I wanted.  Now it 
works without error. 

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Re: [qubes-users] HVM Creation - immediate shutdown after boot

[unman]

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 09:35:58PM +0100, pieter lems wrote:
> Hello max,
> I think i know the answer to both questions but if there is something wrong
> please correct me. (to the people that know a lot about qubes)
> Regarding your first question. The download did indeed fail  because there
> was not enough disk space on your qube. I've had the same problem multiple
> times but increasing the available disk space should solve the problem.
> This can be done by increasing the private storage size in the qubes
> settings manager.
> As far as i know is the /rw folder the folder which is persistent after a
> restart of the qube. The rw folder contains configuration files concerning
> the specific qube. Did you maybe point the iso download to the rw folder?
> this could be the reason why its 100% full.
> 
> Regarding your second question, Ive had the same problem while installing a
> kali iso. Increasing the max memory to 8GB solved the problem for me. This
> can be done under the advanced tab in the qubes settings manager.
> I hope some of this info can help you out.
> Goodluck!
> 
> Op do 29 nov. 2018 om 21:19 schreef :
> 
> > Next in my qubes learning is the creation of a HVM.  I noticed a couple
> > things through the process and wanted to get comments on some of the
> > hang-ups.
> >
> > First step was to download an .iso into one of my AppVMs.  During this
> > process, the  AppVMs were failing downloads after a couple of minutes. I
> > suspected it was because that they were filling up their disk space, even
> > with no other files on the AppVM.
> >
> > After running a 'df -h' I noticed that the "rw" drive was at 100% (is this
> > something Qubes specific?), even after expanding the AppVMs through Qubes
> > Manager.
> >
> > 1.  What might be causing this?  What is the "rw" drive?
> >
> > I circumvented this holdup by creating a new AppVM with enough space to
> > download the .iso.  After creating the StandadloneVM and pointing its boot
> > 'cdrom' to the .iso file in the AppVM mentioned above, the opening screen
> > of the OS appears and is interactive.  However, after choosing to boot the
> > OS, the screen quickly closes and the StandaloneVM shuts down.
> >
> > 2.  What do you suspect causes this?  The StandaloneVM has been allocated
> > 15GB of space and left the default 4GB RAM.
> >
> >
> > System: Base Qubes 4.0 installation, Fedora 28 template, Thinkpad T480
> > w/32Gb RAM.
> >
> > Expected results: StandaloneVM boots into basic OS configuration wizard
> > for the .iso and installation can proceed.
> >
> > Thanks again for any help in advance!
> >
> > - Max
> >

Pieter - can you remember not to top post please?

You're partly right about /rw - it contains configuration, /usr/local
and /home.
That's why the download ran out of space because /rw is created by
default at 2G. You can change this under settings. /home/user is stored
there so Downloads can rapidly fill that space.

As to booting StandaloneVM, 4GB should be fine, depending on the OS -
certainly enough for kali.
Also worth checking that you have kernel set to '', (and maybe virt_mode
hvm)

unman

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Re: [qubes-users] Anyone bought a Dell laptop recently that works with V4

[taii...@gmx.com]

IMO buy a W520 and install a quad core ivy bridge CPU - 32GB RAM and you
can use open source and open cpu/ram hw init coreboot[1] firmware and
also me cleaner to nerf the ME. (disabling ME is impossible)

It is easy to find components to refurb it yourself with a new
battery/keyboard/palmrest/lid etc for not much money.

Don't buy new blobbed junk, all new x86 stuff can't ever be made owner
controlled hence it isn't really your computer.

[1] Coreboot is not always open source firmware - a certain company
dishonestly peddles "open source coreboot firmware" laptops where the
hardware init process is entirely performed via binary blobs and
coreboot is just a wrapper layer.

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Re: [qubes-users] HVM Creation - immediate shutdown after boot

[pieter lems]

Hello max,
I think i know the answer to both questions but if there is something wrong
please correct me. (to the people that know a lot about qubes)
Regarding your first question. The download did indeed fail  because there
was not enough disk space on your qube. I've had the same problem multiple
times but increasing the available disk space should solve the problem.
This can be done by increasing the private storage size in the qubes
settings manager.
As far as i know is the /rw folder the folder which is persistent after a
restart of the qube. The rw folder contains configuration files concerning
the specific qube. Did you maybe point the iso download to the rw folder?
this could be the reason why its 100% full.

Regarding your second question, Ive had the same problem while installing a
kali iso. Increasing the max memory to 8GB solved the problem for me. This
can be done under the advanced tab in the qubes settings manager.
I hope some of this info can help you out.
Goodluck!

Op do 29 nov. 2018 om 21:19 schreef :

> Next in my qubes learning is the creation of a HVM.  I noticed a couple
> things through the process and wanted to get comments on some of the
> hang-ups.
>
> First step was to download an .iso into one of my AppVMs.  During this
> process, the  AppVMs were failing downloads after a couple of minutes. I
> suspected it was because that they were filling up their disk space, even
> with no other files on the AppVM.
>
> After running a 'df -h' I noticed that the "rw" drive was at 100% (is this
> something Qubes specific?), even after expanding the AppVMs through Qubes
> Manager.
>
> 1.  What might be causing this?  What is the "rw" drive?
>
> I circumvented this holdup by creating a new AppVM with enough space to
> download the .iso.  After creating the StandadloneVM and pointing its boot
> 'cdrom' to the .iso file in the AppVM mentioned above, the opening screen
> of the OS appears and is interactive.  However, after choosing to boot the
> OS, the screen quickly closes and the StandaloneVM shuts down.
>
> 2.  What do you suspect causes this?  The StandaloneVM has been allocated
> 15GB of space and left the default 4GB RAM.
>
>
> System: Base Qubes 4.0 installation, Fedora 28 template, Thinkpad T480
> w/32Gb RAM.
>
> Expected results: StandaloneVM boots into basic OS configuration wizard
> for the .iso and installation can proceed.
>
> Thanks again for any help in advance!
>
> - Max
>
>
>
>
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[qubes-users] HVM Creation - immediate shutdown after boot

[maxheadonline]

Next in my qubes learning is the creation of a HVM.  I noticed a couple things 
through the process and wanted to get comments on some of the hang-ups.

First step was to download an .iso into one of my AppVMs.  During this process, 
the  AppVMs were failing downloads after a couple of minutes. I suspected it 
was because that they were filling up their disk space, even with no other 
files on the AppVM.  

After running a 'df -h' I noticed that the "rw" drive was at 100% (is this 
something Qubes specific?), even after expanding the AppVMs through Qubes 
Manager.

1.  What might be causing this?  What is the "rw" drive?

I circumvented this holdup by creating a new AppVM with enough space to 
download the .iso.  After creating the StandadloneVM and pointing its boot 
'cdrom' to the .iso file in the AppVM mentioned above, the opening screen of 
the OS appears and is interactive.  However, after choosing to boot the OS, the 
screen quickly closes and the StandaloneVM shuts down.

2.  What do you suspect causes this?  The StandaloneVM has been allocated 15GB 
of space and left the default 4GB RAM.


System: Base Qubes 4.0 installation, Fedora 28 template, Thinkpad T480 w/32Gb 
RAM.

Expected results: StandaloneVM boots into basic OS configuration wizard for the 
.iso and installation can proceed.

Thanks again for any help in advance!

- Max


 

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Re: [qubes-users] Anyone bought a Dell laptop recently that works with V4

[pieter lems]

Hi Chris,
Yes ive been used V4 for a long time and I literally had 0 problems while
using it as daily driver. I switched to 4.0.1 and the only problem i had as
of now was backing up qubes but this was code related and has been fixed
already. :)
Cheers!

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018, 6:03 PM Chris  wrote:

> Hello Pieter,
>
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Thursday, 29 November 2018 16:19, pieter lems 
> wrote:
>
> Hello chris I switched from a dell xps 15 to a hp spectre x360 not long
> ago and I must say i prefer the Hp spectre. I know it's not an answer to
> your question and im sory for that but i thought i should mention it
> because it's about the same price and has the same / better specs. Ive got
> the model with an i7 8th gen 16gb ram and 500gb ssd. The only "problem" ive
> encounterd is the laptop fan spinning up when ideling but thats because the
> laptop is very thin and light. If i were you i would look into this laptop.
> Cheers!
>
>
> Thanks for this - looks very good. Does Qubes work well on it?
>
> Regards,
>
> Chris
>
> -
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> ch...@meliser.co.uk
>
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Re: [qubes-users] Anyone bought a Dell laptop recently that works with V4

[haaber]

I bought a latitude 7390 with 16G memory and 256G SSD and i7. Works fine 
(without TPM though).

Bernhard



On 11/29/18 3:16 PM, Chris wrote:

Hello All,

Work said they will get me a new laptop and I would like to run Qubes V4 
on it. Can anyone recommend a current model? I'd like an i7 with lots of 
memory!


I had a look at the HCL but the models don't appear to be on the Dell 
site to buy.


Many thanks for any help.

Regards,

Chris


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Re: [qubes-users] Anyone bought a Dell laptop recently that works with V4

[Chris]

Hello Pieter,

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Thursday, 29 November 2018 16:19, pieter lems  
wrote:

> Hello chris I switched from a dell xps 15 to a hp spectre x360 not long ago 
> and I must say i prefer the Hp spectre. I know it's not an answer to your 
> question and im sory for that but i thought i should mention it because it's 
> about the same price and has the same / better specs. Ive got the model with 
> an i7 8th gen 16gb ram and 500gb ssd. The only "problem" ive encounterd is 
> the laptop fan spinning up when ideling but thats because the laptop is very 
> thin and light. If i were you i would look into this laptop.
> Cheers!

Thanks for this - looks very good. Does Qubes work well on it?

Regards,

Chris

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Re: [qubes-users] Anyone bought a Dell laptop recently that works with V4

[pieter lems]

Hello chris I switched from a dell xps 15 to a hp spectre x360 not long ago
and I must say i prefer the Hp spectre. I know it's not an answer to your
question and im sory for that but i thought i should mention it because
it's about the same price and has the same / better specs. Ive got the
model with an i7 8th gen 16gb ram and 500gb ssd. The only "problem" ive
encounterd is the laptop fan spinning up when ideling but thats because the
laptop is very thin and light. If i were you i would look into this laptop.
Cheers!

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018, 3:16 PM Chris  wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> Work said they will get me a new laptop and I would like to run Qubes V4
> on it. Can anyone recommend a current model? I'd like an i7 with lots of
> memory!
>
> I had a look at the HCL but the models don't appear to be on the Dell site
> to buy.
>
> Many thanks for any help.
>
> Regards,
>
> Chris
>
>
> -
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> ch...@meliser.co.uk
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[qubes-users] Anyone bought a Dell laptop recently that works with V4

[Chris]

Hello All,

Work said they will get me a new laptop and I would like to run Qubes V4 on it. 
Can anyone recommend a current model? I'd like an i7 with lots of memory!

I had a look at the HCL but the models don't appear to be on the Dell site to 
buy.

Many thanks for any help.

Regards,

Chris

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Workaround: Refresh Application button suddenly stuck at "Refresh in progress" in Windows HVM.

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On 11/28/18 11:08 AM, Tseng Wynn wrote:
> Notes: If this post is more suitable for qubes-issues rather then
> qubes-users. then I will post on qubes-issues

It will be easier to track and fix.
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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix GW & WS upgrade failed (Help)

[qubes123456]

and that happens sometimes, is that normal?

https://ibb.co/4fKLYkn

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix GW & WS upgrade failed (Help)

[qubes123456]

yes I have, reboot brings nothing there :(

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Re: [qubes-users] QJackctl starting on Qubes 4.0

[Ivan Mitev]

On 11/28/18 7:01 PM, maxheadonl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, November 25, 2018 at 7:38:24 AM UTC-5, awokd wrote:

maxheadonl...@gmail.com wrote on 11/24/18 7:45 PM:

Hi all.

I've put enough time into this one where I'm finally willing to reach out for 
some help.  I wanted to see if I could create an AppVm dedicated to music 
creation, using QJackCtl and other open source software.

However, I'm having a terrible time at even getting Jack Audio off of the floor.

System: Base Qubes 4.0 installation, Fedora 28 template, Thinkpad T480 w/32Gb 
RAM.

Expected results: Pressing "Start" on the QJackCtl GUI starts the server, per 
the online manuals and Fedora's Musician documentation.

Actual results: Receive the "Could not connect to JACK server as client. - Overall 
operation failed. - Unable to connect to server." error.

Tried so far: Following online documentation (treating the AppVM as a standard 
Fedora installation), assigning the Audio PCI of the computer to that VM via 
the Qubes Manager.

I'm totally willing to have this be something simple and embarrassing as I 
learn the OS.  Any help that you can provide would be much appreciated!


If I understand Qubes' audio right, Pulseaudio inside AppVMs gets
redirected to dom0's Pulseaudio which normally controls the sound
hardware. So if you want to override that, maybe try setting up an HVM
with the audio device assigned and without Qubes Pulseaudio redirection.
Think there's a Qubes package that does it so don't install that one in
the HVM.


Thanks, awokd.  I tried passing through the audio PCI, but didn't get any 
farther than the 'Settings' tab in Qjackctl.  I could get Jack to recognize the 
sound card, but couldn't get the server to actually start.

If anyone else has success in implementing Jack Audio (or configuring an audio 
creation VM in Qubes/Xen), please don't hesitate to contact me!


Not meaning to discourage you but latency sensitive stuff will be a 
hit-or-miss with virtualization (and by experience misses unfortunately 
far outweigh hits). That's because of inaccuracies with the guest OS' 
virtualized timer and/or how host resources are prioritized and 
allocated to the guests.


With Qubes: my quality USB DAC constantly outputs audible clicks despite 
being fed a data stream directly from sys-usb (ie. it's not 
"pass-through'ed" to another VM). The same DAC works perfectly well on 
other laptops (including a 10+ year old one) without virtualization. 
It's USB though, and USB audio sucks so YMMV :)


I do hope you'll manage to have your setup working properly. If not I'd 
advise that you buy/use an old laptop dedicated to your audio creation 
tasks. That way you could install an audio focused distribution (like 
Ubuntu Studio [1], AV Linux [2] - and probably others), as those 
distributions package all the popular apps and may provide so-called 
realtime kernels that help with latency and jitter.


You could also try to install such a distribution as a HVM in Qubes and 
see how it works.


[1] https://ubuntustudio.org/
[2] http://www.bandshed.net/avlinux/





If this is the intended sound set up for Qubes, it makes sense and I'll instead 
try the HVM approach to create my audio VM.  I'll address the issues that I've 
found so far in that attempt in another thread.

Excellent community, thank you!

- Max



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