[qubes-users] Intel ME Backdoor, called Odin's Eye

2018-01-06 Thread dangmadzyu 
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Summary:

Intel Whistleblower leaks details about his role in backdooring all IME chips 
on behalf of Intelligence Agencies. Posted 3/22/2017. Codename: Odin's Eye

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Re: [qubes-users] New HCL Entry: Lenovo ThinkPad T470 (20HDCTO1WW)

2018-01-06 Thread Josef Johansson 
Just to note this here, we tried to install Qubes 3.2 on a T470p with intel
and nvidia graphics, with secureboot off and starting the installer through
refind. It all went fine, except that neither ethernet nor wifi was
detected ( solvable through fw updates I assume ). X started ok though.

/Josef

On Fri, 15 Dec 2017, 20:23 Josef Johansson,  wrote:

> Sorry, I missed that part of your reply. I was answering both of you :)
>
> I'll see if I can get Qubes 3.2 running on my T470p in the weekend if
> there's time. My collegue ended up with 4.0 with legacy boot to get
> everything working, so I just started from there. Using it for critical
> work and so far it's quite stable.
>
> Regards
>
>
> Josef
>
> On Fri, 15 Dec 2017, 16:20 ,  wrote:
>
>> Thank you for your reply.
>>
>> Could you explain to me why using EFI would solve the problem of the X
>> server not starting?
>>
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Re: [qubes-users] Help verifying install files: how to verify the Release 3 Signing Key?

2018-01-06 Thread Kyle Breneman 
​
After you import both the master and signing keys, you can check them with
'gpg --check-sigs' which should have output like this:
pub   rsa4096 2017-03-06 [SC]
  5817A43B283DE5A9181A522E1848792F9E2795E9
uid   [ unknown] Qubes OS Release 4 Signing Key
sig!31848792F9E2795E9 2017-03-06  Qubes OS Release 4 Signing Key
sig! DDFA1A3E36879494 2017-03-08  Qubes Master Signing Key

(I have the Qubes 4 key but its otherwise the same.)

This lists the Qubes master key under the uid for the Qubes release key,
showing the release key has been signed by the master. The exclamation mark
after "sig" means the signature has been verified as good.

​Dear Chris,

Th​anks very much for your patient help with this!  I was able to verify
all keys and signatures and successfully installed Qubes 3.2 over the
holidays.

Regards,
Kyle

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Re: [qubes-users] Recommended wireless or Ethernet card / chipset

2018-01-06 Thread Sven Semmler 
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On 12/18/2017 11:07 PM, 'EW' via qubes-users wrote:

> I tried a lot of things from various posts but to no avail, I'm 
> going to just assume for now that the HW is not compatible (they
> are USB 3 adapters, some posts are at least opening the possibility
> that USB 3 is no really supported yet). The system worked off of a
> USB 3 based SD card though (before I installed to bullt-in SSD).

Yep, got trouble with USB3 too. As far as USB-to-Ethernet adapters are
concerned I had success with Apple's (which is USB2)...

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MC704LL/A/apple-usb-ethernet-adapter

/Sven

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Re: [qubes-users] hey, Please confirm we cannot install Qubes 4.0 on DVD, and the minimum on flash drive to install

2018-01-06 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users 
On Sun, January 7, 2018 3:02 am, russlyatos...@gmail.com wrote:


> 1. We are able also to install actual OS on one flash drive using another
> flash drive with ISO image on it (or also DVD ISO image)? True for Qubes
> 4.0 ?
yes

> 2. In order to install OS on flash drive the minimum size should be 32GB
> on it?
yes

> 3. Minimum size to burn Qubes 4.0 ISO on flash drive need to have 16GB on
> it?
no, 8GB

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[qubes-users] 4.0 rc3: fedora 26 minimal firewall issues

2018-01-06 Thread khmartinsen 
I am using the fedora 26 minimal template for my net and firewall qubes. I have 
installed all the necessary packages for networking and everything except 
firewall rules work. In the VM settings for qubes connected to my firewall qube 
it says "Networking qube does not support 'qubes-firewall' ...". In the 
firewall qube, systemctl shows that qubes-firewall is running. 
Are there other packages or settings I need to configure for the appvm to be 
used as a firewall?

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Re: [qubes-users] New HCL Entry: Lenovo ThinkPad T470 (20HDCTO1WW)

2018-01-06 Thread Sven Semmler 
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On 12/15/2017 03:20 AM, kotot...@gmail.com wrote:
> It does boot but the X server cannot start. Text installation did
> not work.

Based on swami's post from 9/15/17 I suspect you need kernel 4.9 in
dom0 ...

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/qubes-users/ZFZT7mQNeWY/xZ1AiCYOAwAJ

> In BIOS setup, disable Secure Boot and set graphics mode to
> DISCRETE, otherwise the graphical installer won't start - You can
> set graphics mode back to Hybrid once Qubes is installed an kernel
> is upgraded to 4.9.45-21.pvops.qubes.x86_64

He is talking about a ThinkPad P51 which has both DISCRETE (NVidia only)
and HYBRID (Intel with option to switch to NVidia) graphics. I just
recently installed Qubes 3.2 on ThinkPad P51 and posted my experience to
qubes-users and my website:

http://svensemmler.org/blog/2017/12/17/qubes-on-thinkpad-p51.html

There I also describe an alternative to Stephan Marwedel's approach to
the network drivers. I used an Ethernet-to-USB adapter to run the
initial dom0 update.

Anyway, all that doesn't help you.

1. Text install is not working for you
2. X server with Intel graphics needs dom0 on 4.9
3. Install media of Qubes 3.2 is kernel 4.4

So you either get R4 to work (my last attempt with RC3 was rough - but
your mileage may differ) OR you give Frédéric Pierret's _unofficial_
R3.3 a try ...

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/qubes-users/4le5YK2V9Qg/HrdmUi6dBAAJ

/Sven



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Re: [qubes-users] hey, Please confirm we cannot install Qubes 4.0 on DVD, and the minimum on flash drive to install

2018-01-06 Thread russlyatoslav 
On Saturday, January 6, 2018 at 9:28:37 PM UTC-5, awokd wrote:
> On Sat, January 6, 2018 8:08 pm, russlyatos...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> >
> > 1. Oh, my bad, I meant to burn ISO on DVD or/and Flash Drive, and then
> > use PC to install on it...
> >
> > 2. I didn't find guide how to burn DVD Qubes ISO
> 
> It's a normal ISO, just burn like you usually would. I think in Debian
> Gnome for example, I right-clicked it and picked burn to DVD.
> 
> > 3. As I understood it's possible to literally install Qubes on flash
> > drive and run it from it?
> 
> Yes, that works but you might want to make a full backup of your hard
> drive first just in case. Once that's done, boot off the DVD and plug in
> your USB drive before the installer starts. Make very sure you are
> choosing to install to the USB drive.

Nice. thanks. just want to confirm:

1. We are able also to install actual OS on one flash drive using another flash 
drive with ISO image on it (or also DVD ISO image)? True for Qubes 4.0 ?

2. In order to install OS on flash drive the minimum size should be 32GB on it?

3. Minimum size to burn Qubes 4.0 ISO on flash drive need to have 16GB on it? 

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Re: [qubes-users] qubes app menu keeps old template vm entries

2018-01-06 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users 
On Sat, January 6, 2018 11:21 pm, pixel fairy wrote:
> The qubes app menu (top left of screen by default) keeps entries for
> template vms. is there a way to get rid of them?
>
> running 3.2 with the default xfce

Don't know if there's an easier way but I delete them from dom0
~/.local/share/applications and ~/.local/share/desktop-directories.


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Re: [qubes-users] do i need to configure usb printer in disposalVM? to print from there

2018-01-06 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users 
On Sat, January 6, 2018 9:38 pm, jerr...@disroot.org wrote:
> i just configured a usb printer, by going to devices tab (can be accessed
> through start menu > in your appvm clicking add more shortcuts), moving
> the printer to the selected area printer is not recognized in the
> disposable vm only... (when right clicking it > open in DisposableVM)

How did you connect the USB printer to your dispVM? Did you use qvm-usb to
attach it? You'd need to do at least that first.


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Re: [qubes-users] hey, Please confirm we cannot install Qubes 4.0 on DVD, and the minimum on flash drive to install

2018-01-06 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users 
On Sat, January 6, 2018 8:08 pm, russlyatos...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> 1. Oh, my bad, I meant to burn ISO on DVD or/and Flash Drive, and then
> use PC to install on it...
>
> 2. I didn't find guide how to burn DVD Qubes ISO

It's a normal ISO, just burn like you usually would. I think in Debian
Gnome for example, I right-clicked it and picked burn to DVD.

> 3. As I understood it's possible to literally install Qubes on flash
> drive and run it from it?

Yes, that works but you might want to make a full backup of your hard
drive first just in case. Once that's done, boot off the DVD and plug in
your USB drive before the installer starts. Make very sure you are
choosing to install to the USB drive.

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[qubes-users] Announcement: Fedora 26 TemplateVM Upgrade

2018-01-06 Thread Andrew David Wong 
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Dear Qubes Community,

Fedora 25 reached EOL ([end-of-life]) on 2017-12-12. We sincerely
apologize for our failure to provide timely notice of this event. It
is strongly recommend that all Qubes users upgrade their Fedora 25
TemplateVMs and StandaloneVMs to Fedora 26 immediately. We provide
step-by-step [upgrade instructions] for upgrading your existing
TemplateVMs and StandaloneVMs in-place on both Qubes 3.2 and Qubes
4.0. For a complete list of TemplateVM versions supported for your
specific version of Qubes, see [Supported TemplateVM Versions].

We also provide fresh Fedora 26 TemplateVM packages through the
official Qubes repositories, which you can get with the following
commands (in dom0).

Standard Fedora 26 TemplateVM:

$ sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-26

[Minimal] Fedora 26 TemplateVM:

$ sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-26-minimal

After upgrading to a Fedora 26 TemplateVM, please remember to set all
qubes that were using the old template to use the new one. The
instructions to do this can be found in the [upgrade instructions]
for your specific version.

Please note that no user action is required regarding the OS version
in dom0. If you're using Qubes 3.2 or 4.0, there is no dom0 OS
upgrade available, since none is currently required. For details,
please see our [Note on dom0 and EOL].

If you're using an older version of Qubes than 3.2, we strongly
recommend that you upgrade to 3.2, as older versions are no longer
supported.


[end-of-life]: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Life_Cycle#Maintenance_Schedule
[upgrade instructions]: /doc/template/fedora/upgrade-25-to-26/
[Supported TemplateVM Versions]: /doc/supported-versions/#templatevms
[Minimal]: /doc/templates/fedora-minimal/
[Note on dom0 and EOL]: /doc/supported-versions/#note-on-dom0-and-eol

This announcement is also available on the Qubes website:
https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2018/01/06/fedora-26-upgrade/

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[qubes-users] qubes app menu keeps old template vm entries

2018-01-06 Thread pixel fairy 
The qubes app menu (top left of screen by default) keeps entries for template 
vms. is there a way to get rid of them?

running 3.2 with the default xfce

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[qubes-users] qubes app menu keeps old templatevm entries.

2018-01-06 Thread pixel fairy 
The app menu, top left, keeps entries for old template VMs. is there a way to 
get rid of them?

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Lenovo G505s with Coreboot and Qubes R4-rc3 fails to boot

2018-01-06 Thread taii...@gmx.com 

On 12/29/2017 08:21 PM, awokd wrote:


On Sat, December 30, 2017 12:20 am,taii...@gmx.com  wrote:

On 12/29/2017 06:39 PM, awokd wrote:



On Fri, December 29, 2017 11:32 pm, Ivan Ivanov wrote:


2017-12-30 1:57 GMT+03:00taii...@gmx.com  :


Yes, I am also very disappointed in purism, and its still unclear for
  me why they went the Intel road, when - at 2013 - they could have
created a more freedom-respecting equivalent of G505S, instead of

This was hashed over in the Coreboot mailing list recently, see
https://mail-archive.com/coreboot@coreboot.org/msg50746.html. To be
honest, I'm kind of tired of hearing about Purism now. ;) I think people
  have made their positions clear.

:<
I only make so much noise because no one else is doing so - they have
strangely universal positive coverage in the mainstream tech media and the
real facts and downsides are never mentioned or investigated - not to
mention that the real libre products like TALOS 2 and Novena get little to
no press for some reason.

I respect your opinion, but there are still so many laymen who think
that "LibreM" means "Libre" (the purism goons say it doesn't and that its
not their fault people are confused) so I feel as though I must continue.

I appreciate your enthusiasm for the AMD products.
Nah I don't like AMD due to PSP - it is simply that they added it much 
later than intel did ME so the pre-PSP AMD stuff is still fast enough to 
be useful which is why I recommend it for those who require x86-64.


My only CPU enthusiasm is for POWER (and thus TALOS 2)

It was actually one of
your posts along with several other people's that convinced me to get the
G505s. But there might be more effective ways of communicating your
concerns with Purism than frequently repeating it to the same groups of
people. :) You mention tech media for example, have you contacted them?

I have many times, sometimes I receive a reply but it never goes anywhere :[
I assume they receive so many emails they simply ignore mine.

Or
how about writing a fact-based expose (make sure it doesn't seem like a
rant) and submitting it or blogging it somewhere? I'm no PR guy though, so
maybe those aren't good ideas.
No they are :3 its just that the tech media only cares about shiny 
appley type products not stuff made for real work.


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Re: [qubes-users] Compatible Hardware.

2018-01-06 Thread taii...@gmx.com 

On 01/06/2018 05:02 PM, Sir Hugo Drax wrote:


Hi Taiidan,

That's a pretty sweet setup you have from a privacy standpoint. I wish I
could put one together for myself right now. But alas things are
unfortunately not in a way I can do that. The parts I listed are for a
project that pays the bills and that has to take priority for now.
Always man, that project may not be cool with the lower opteron per core 
speed.
If you don't mind I am curious what you are doing! (feel free to reply 
off list)

  Using the system for Qubes is an after thought for when the parts would be
retired from active use. However I do have a question concerning the
the motherboard you recommended.

In case you are curious about the performance differential.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+Silver+4114+%40+2.20GHz=3095
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Opteron+6386+SE=2294


Does the KGPE-D16 or KCMA-D8 support an Nvme PCI-E  SSD like an Intel
750 Series PCIe 400GB?
Yeah there are a few on the coreboot mailinglist who use those and they 
are satisfied, the D16 has more PCI-e bandwidth to go around so I would 
get that if you want more high bandwidth PCI-e cards.
The OEM board firmware doesn't support booting but some coreboot 
payloads do.

I ask this since both boards have Gen2 PCI-E
slots and I don't know if those slots shall be a bottleneck if I desired
building a separate system some day around one of these boards.
The slots are all directly connected to the northbridge so none are 
over-subscribed


The main SSD wow-factor areas are write-speed and I/O both of which 
won't be impacted by 2.0 so I highly doubt you would notice in anything 
but a fringe use case - having a drive that is x8 or x16 also helps as 
you would have more lanes and thus more bandwidth of v2.0.

Given
the philosophy behind Qubes, I'm really tempted to seriously look into
such a build and how it woul fit together. What graphic card would you
recommend for the above boards?
As always I recommend AMD graphics as nvidia isn't friendly to linux or 
virtualization, other then that I don't keep up with the marketing - of 
course you will want something new with plenty of VRAM if you want to 
play new video games, you can also get two graphics cards if you want to 
have dual gaming VM's as the board comes with dual USB controllers out 
of the box if you use a breakout cable.


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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Lenovo G505s with Coreboot and Qubes R4-rc3 fails to boot

2018-01-06 Thread Ivan Ivanov 
I believe, something like this could be reliably determined only by experiment.
but 16 GB DDR3 SO-DIMMs are very expensive - especially now,
when the RAM prices hiked and 4 GB of DDR3 now costs like 8 GB :P
Currently it makes much more sense to get extra coreboot supported hardware
(e.g. some spare G505S laptops) rather than more RAM...

Do you live in a country with favorable customer laws?
Could you order a couple of 16 GB memory modules, test them,
and if they don't work (or if you simply don't need that much memory)
return them to seller without additional costs to you? such as repack fee

Best regards,
Ivan Ivanov

2018-01-07 0:27 GMT+03:00 taii...@gmx.com :
> On 01/05/2018 07:00 PM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:
>
>> On Fri, January 5, 2018 11:19 pm, 'Emil Novik' via qubes-users wrote:
>>>
>>> Does any G505s owner ever tried to put more than 16Go ram in it?
>>> The limit is meant to be 16Go but some laptops can use more than
>>> officially supported, wondering if the G505s is one of these.
>>>
>>> Would be nice to run 32Go ram on it for Qubes !
>>
>> I think the max supported DIMM size is 8GB. Taiidan is the guru, hopefully
>> he knows!
>
> I highly doubt it can support more than 16GB although considering the
> desktop version of that CPU can support 16GB DIMM's it is worth asking about
> on the coreboot mailinglist.
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Re: [qubes-users] Re: new Desktop build recommendation

2018-01-06 Thread taii...@gmx.com 

On 01/04/2018 01:23 PM, Wael M. Nasreddine wrote:


I read a bit more on M/B connectors and
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153218=1
has one EPS (8 pin) and one ATX (8 pin as well), so it's all good.

Taiidan, what GPU do you use? The board has only a VGA, which is OK for
setting it up, but I want to run a 1080p widescreen (one, for now, more for
later. I have a GeForce GTX 760
laying
around, would it work? It says required PCI-E 3 and the board has PCI-E 2
so probably not, but would be good to know.
Hmm curious is this your first time building a PC? :0 I thought you had 
done this before? All PCI-e stuff is backwards and forwards compatible I 
would get this all set up before you buy a newer GFX card - that one 
will work fine for now.


Hey when you get this let me know if you need any help setting up VM 
gaming it is very difficult but very rewarding.
One gotcha I have noticed is NUMA alignment, each 16 core CPU contains 
two NUMA nodes and performance will suffer greatly if things are not 
properly aligned (gets tricker in VM's too)


TPM:
I am not sure about TPM's I would call ASUS and ask for a board 
compatible part number.


Newegg Links:
I can't view newegg links, you would have to find a OEM link to show me.
I would get a 1KW PSU from a reputable company, like I said dual EPS12V, 
modular and japanese capacitors is what you want.


Case Price - no more than $200 unless it includes nice front HDD hot 
swap bays - Don't use the PSU that comes with the case.


I would also get front drive bay HDD enclosures that have a fan 
otherwise your drives will get hot inside the case and be a pain to service.


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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Compatible Hardware.

2018-01-06 Thread Grzegorz Chodzicki 


On 01/06/2018 10:41 PM, Sir Hugo Drax wrote:
> On 01/06/2018 10:26 PM, Yethal wrote:
>> W dniu sobota, 6 stycznia 2018 20:40:16 UTC+1 użytkownik Sir Hugo Drax 
>> napisał:
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>>
>>> Like most of you, I came upon Qubes OS and fell in love. I have it
>>> running on an Asrock Z77 Extreme 11 with 32GBram and an i7-4790K. Apart
>>> from a few unexplained hangups from time to time, it has been smooth
>>> sailing. I'm in the process of building a brute of a machine (For heavy
>>> number crunching and video editing etc). My objective is to some day
>>> retire the machine I'm currently building into my daily driver with
>>> Qubes OS but that is some time in the future.
>>>
>>> My current confusion is over 3 parts on my build list. I wish to know if
>>> these are compatible with Qubes 4.
>>>
>>> - X2 Intel Xeon Silver 4114 2,20GHz
>>>
>>> - Supermicro X11DPi-NT
>>>
>>> - Sapphire Radeon RX 580 Pulse
>>>
>>> I suspect The board and processors are probably OK but have no clue if
>>> the above graphic card would work. Any information and or suggestions
>>> for alternatives if these are unsupported is appreciated and welcome.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for your time and heartfelt appreciation to the Qubes
>>> team who toil over this OS.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>> Drax
>> GPU won't be compatible out of the box with 3.2 due to the fact that 3.2 
>> ships with 4.4 kernel (Plaris GPUs require kernel 4.7 or newer). Should work 
>> fine after updating the kernel though.
>>
> Hi Yethal,
>
> Thanks for the prompt reply and good tip. Do you know of any GPU of
> equivalent power that would work out of the box? I'm not too particular
> about GPUs, I just need something that would drive dual Asus VN279QLB
> monitors without too much trouble.
>
> Cheers
> Drax
>
Don't bother. The supermicro motherboard comes with an onboard gpu. It's
very basic but should be enough to install the os and update the kernel.
Afterwards just use the Radeon.

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[qubes-users] do i need to configure usb printer in disposalVM? to print from there

2018-01-06 Thread jerry57 
i just configured a usb printer, by going to devices tab (can be accessed 
through start menu > in your appvm clicking add more shortcuts), moving the 
printer to the selected area
printer is not recognized in the disposable vm only... (when right clicking it 
> open in DisposableVM)

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Re: [qubes-users] lenovo t400 will qubes work with lenovo's bios?

2018-01-06 Thread taii...@gmx.com 

On 01/02/2018 12:25 PM, ronwirr...@safe-mail.net wrote:


https://www.qubes-os.org/hcl/

Can you install qubes on a lenovo t400, which runs the lenovo bios? Thanks.

Yeah although you might as well install coreboot so you get better 
security and performance.


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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Lenovo G505s with Coreboot and Qubes R4-rc3 fails to boot

2018-01-06 Thread taii...@gmx.com 

On 01/05/2018 07:00 PM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:


On Fri, January 5, 2018 11:19 pm, 'Emil Novik' via qubes-users wrote:

Does any G505s owner ever tried to put more than 16Go ram in it?
The limit is meant to be 16Go but some laptops can use more than
officially supported, wondering if the G505s is one of these.

Would be nice to run 32Go ram on it for Qubes !

I think the max supported DIMM size is 8GB. Taiidan is the guru, hopefully
he knows!
I highly doubt it can support more than 16GB although considering the 
desktop version of that CPU can support 16GB DIMM's it is worth asking 
about on the coreboot mailinglist.


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[qubes-users] Re: Compatible Hardware.

2018-01-06 Thread Yethal 
W dniu sobota, 6 stycznia 2018 20:40:16 UTC+1 użytkownik Sir Hugo Drax napisał:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> Like most of you, I came upon Qubes OS and fell in love. I have it
> running on an Asrock Z77 Extreme 11 with 32GBram and an i7-4790K. Apart
> from a few unexplained hangups from time to time, it has been smooth
> sailing. I'm in the process of building a brute of a machine (For heavy
> number crunching and video editing etc). My objective is to some day
> retire the machine I'm currently building into my daily driver with
> Qubes OS but that is some time in the future.
> 
> My current confusion is over 3 parts on my build list. I wish to know if
> these are compatible with Qubes 4.
> 
> - X2 Intel Xeon Silver 4114 2,20GHz
> 
> - Supermicro X11DPi-NT
> 
> - Sapphire Radeon RX 580 Pulse
> 
> I suspect The board and processors are probably OK but have no clue if
> the above graphic card would work. Any information and or suggestions
> for alternatives if these are unsupported is appreciated and welcome.
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance for your time and heartfelt appreciation to the Qubes
> team who toil over this OS.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> Drax

GPU won't be compatible out of the box with 3.2 due to the fact that 3.2 ships 
with 4.4 kernel (Plaris GPUs require kernel 4.7 or newer). Should work fine 
after updating the kernel though.

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Re: [qubes-users] Compatible Hardware.

2018-01-06 Thread taii...@gmx.com 
That hardware is quite new so it probably won't play nice with qubes, 
and like any new x86-64 hardware it has a black box supervisor processor 
(in this case Intel ME)

Intel CPU's are also now 30% slower due to the meltdown/spectre bug.

I would instead suggest a system that has owner controlled libre 
firmware available such as the KGPE-D16 or KCMA-D8 boards for improved 
security - they have a qubes HCL entry and as there is no hardware code 
signing enforcement they have the ability for the firmware to be fixed 
in case anything incompatibilities arise (which will never happen with 
most OEM's leaving your IOMMU broken or what not)

Coreboot for these boards has open source hardware init.

The KGPE-D16 supports dual cpus, up to 32 cores and 192GB RAM, the 
KCMA-D8 supports dual cpus, 16 cores and 128GB RAM - both support a port 
of OpenBMC for secure libre remote management and IOMMU-GFX so you can 
play games in a VM as well. Coupled with a supported AMD graphics card 
(nvidia isn't friendly with linux) and I guarantee you will be more 
satisfied and more secure for a lot less money than that xeon build.


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Re: [qubes-users] Frequent 3.2 crashes , How to troubleshoot?

2018-01-06 Thread tezeb 
On 01/06/2018 09:20 PM, yreb...@riseup.net wrote:
> On 2018-01-06 08:23, awokd wrote:
>> On Sat, January 6, 2018 5:32 pm, yreb...@riseup.net wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The "OOM" bug, as I read it on the URL, seems to indicate only that "X"
>>> crashes, in my case more often the whole system has rebooted, but perhaps
>>> the OOM could also cause that?
>>>
>>> Plus "grep" seems to find  only 2 entries , and I've had many such
>>> crashes :)
>>
>> Look through that journalctl log manually and try to find more crashes.
>> Might be something else besides OOM causing them too. Also, look through
>> /var/log/xen/console/hypervisor.log for crash messages.
> 
> sadly, it being in dom0 complicates that, as journalctl is so huge ;
> besides |more and |less  any other suggestions  on  examining logs in
> dom0? 
> 
> or particular terms to grep ?  "crash" didn't seem to do much :)
> 

Judging by the end result(crash) and the fact that my Qubes has worked
well until recently I believe that I am hitting the same issue as you
do. I don't have any "oom" logs in journalctl, but I had seen few
crashes recently.


The last lines before "-- Reboot --" in journalctl is, but that does not
repeat earlier so I doubt it's the issue:

Jan 06 20:15:03 dom0 block-cleaner-daemon.py[2759]: libxl: error:
libxl_device.c:369:libxl__device_disk_set_backend: no suitable backend
for disk xvdd
Jan 06 20:15:03 dom0 block-cleaner-daemon.py[2759]:
libxl_device_disk_remove failed.
Jan 06 20:15:04 dom0 block-cleaner-daemon.py[2759]: libxl: error:
libxl_device.c:369:libxl__device_disk_set_backend: no suitable backend
for disk xvdc
Jan 06 20:15:04 dom0 block-cleaner-daemon.py[2759]:
libxl_device_disk_remove failed.

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Re: [qubes-users] Frequent 3.2 crashes , How to troubleshoot?

2018-01-06 Thread yrebstv 
On 2018-01-06 08:23, awokd wrote:
> On Sat, January 6, 2018 5:32 pm, yreb...@riseup.net wrote:
> 
>>
>> The "OOM" bug, as I read it on the URL, seems to indicate only that "X"
>> crashes, in my case more often the whole system has rebooted, but perhaps
>> the OOM could also cause that?
>>
>> Plus "grep" seems to find  only 2 entries , and I've had many such
>> crashes :)
> 
> Look through that journalctl log manually and try to find more crashes.
> Might be something else besides OOM causing them too. Also, look through
> /var/log/xen/console/hypervisor.log for crash messages.

sadly, it being in dom0 complicates that, as journalctl is so huge ;
besides |more and |less  any other suggestions  on  examining logs in
dom0? 

or particular terms to grep ?  "crash" didn't seem to do much :)

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Re: [qubes-users] hey, Please confirm we cannot install Qubes 4.0 on DVD, and the minimum on flash drive to install

2018-01-06 Thread russlyatoslav 
On Saturday, January 6, 2018 at 2:14:08 PM UTC-5, awokd wrote:
> On Sat, January 6, 2018 6:44 pm, 'Tom Zander' via qubes-users wrote:
> > On Saturday, 6 January 2018 17:42:00 GMT russlyatos...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> >> hey,  Please confirm we cannot install Qubes 4.0 on DVD, and the
> >> minimum on flash drive to install Qubes 4.0 we must have 32GB?  thanks
> >
> > Not sure if this is helpful; the minimum size harddrive I've installed
> > Qubes
> > on was 21GiB. But you have to skip the debian and the whonix templates and
> > I turned off
> > swap.
> 
> Oh, I see. No, you can't install Qubes directly to a DVD, but you can burn
> the ISO to one and use it to install somewhere else.

1. Oh, my bad, I meant to burn ISO on DVD or/and Flash Drive, and then use PC 
to install on it... 

2. I didn't find guide how to burn DVD Qubes ISO

3. As I understood it's possible to literally install Qubes on flash drive and 
run it from it?

thanks

 

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Re: [qubes-users] Q4.0 rc3 (current testing) - power off/ suspend issues.

2018-01-06 Thread Ralph Douglass 
I’ve seen the same thing.  Perhaps nothing during shutdown is calling
qvm-shutdown on the qubes.

On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 1:41 PM 'Tom Zander' via qubes-users <
qubes-users@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, 6 January 2018 10:56:13 GMT haaber wrote:
> > 2) Reboots hang systematically at "Reached target shutdown" and has to
> > be rebooted via a coldboot.
>
> I've been seeing this too, although sometimes it goes on after half a
> minute
> only to hang at some other point (after loads of messages).
>
> I noticed that if I manually shut down all qubes, INCLUDING, sys-net,
> before
> logging out then this problem is avoided.
>
> Next time you reboot, can you try that and let us know if this isn't just
> me?
> That may help with debugging.
>
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[qubes-users] Compatible Hardware.

2018-01-06 Thread Sir Hugo Drax 
Hello everyone,


Like most of you, I came upon Qubes OS and fell in love. I have it
running on an Asrock Z77 Extreme 11 with 32GBram and an i7-4790K. Apart
from a few unexplained hangups from time to time, it has been smooth
sailing. I'm in the process of building a brute of a machine (For heavy
number crunching and video editing etc). My objective is to some day
retire the machine I'm currently building into my daily driver with
Qubes OS but that is some time in the future.

My current confusion is over 3 parts on my build list. I wish to know if
these are compatible with Qubes 4.

- X2 Intel Xeon Silver 4114 2,20GHz

- Supermicro X11DPi-NT

- Sapphire Radeon RX 580 Pulse

I suspect The board and processors are probably OK but have no clue if
the above graphic card would work. Any information and or suggestions
for alternatives if these are unsupported is appreciated and welcome.


Thanks in advance for your time and heartfelt appreciation to the Qubes
team who toil over this OS.


Cheers


Drax

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[qubes-users] Re: qubes 4 windows installation

2018-01-06 Thread google 
Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018 10:27:58 UTC+1 schrieb Roy Bernat:
> Hi All 
> 
> i am trying to understand if someone succeeded to install win7/10 on qubes 4.
> R

Standalone Windows 7 VMs seem to work, though only without seamless GUI.
But I have not been able to get template-based windows VMs, they always fail 
with "Cannot execute qrexec-daemon!".

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Re: [qubes-users] hey, Please confirm we cannot install Qubes 4.0 on DVD, and the minimum on flash drive to install

2018-01-06 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users 
On Sat, January 6, 2018 6:44 pm, 'Tom Zander' via qubes-users wrote:
> On Saturday, 6 January 2018 17:42:00 GMT russlyatos...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> hey,  Please confirm we cannot install Qubes 4.0 on DVD, and the
>> minimum on flash drive to install Qubes 4.0 we must have 32GB?  thanks
>
> Not sure if this is helpful; the minimum size harddrive I've installed
> Qubes
> on was 21GiB. But you have to skip the debian and the whonix templates and
> I turned off
> swap.

Oh, I see. No, you can't install Qubes directly to a DVD, but you can burn
the ISO to one and use it to install somewhere else.

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Re: [qubes-users] hey, Please confirm we cannot install Qubes 4.0 on DVD, and the minimum on flash drive to install

2018-01-06 Thread 'Tom Zander' via qubes-users 
On Saturday, 6 January 2018 17:42:00 GMT russlyatos...@gmail.com wrote:
>  hey,  Please confirm we cannot install Qubes 4.0 on DVD, and the minimum
> on flash drive to install Qubes 4.0 we must have 32GB?  thanks

Not sure if this is helpful; the minimum size harddrive I've installed Qubes 
on was 21GiB.
But you have to skip the debian and the whonix templates and I turned off 
swap.

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Re: [qubes-users] Q4.0 rc3 (current testing) - power off/ suspend issues.

2018-01-06 Thread 'Tom Zander' via qubes-users 
On Saturday, 6 January 2018 10:56:13 GMT haaber wrote:
> 2) Reboots hang systematically at "Reached target shutdown" and has to
> be rebooted via a coldboot.

I've been seeing this too, although sometimes it goes on after half a minute 
only to hang at some other point (after loads of messages).

I noticed that if I manually shut down all qubes, INCLUDING, sys-net, before 
logging out then this problem is avoided.

Next time you reboot, can you try that and let us know if this isn't just 
me?
That may help with debugging.

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Re: [qubes-users] hey, Please confirm we cannot install Qubes 4.0 on DVD, and the minimum on flash drive to install

2018-01-06 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users 
On Sat, January 6, 2018 5:42 pm, russlyatos...@gmail.com wrote:
> hey,  Please confirm we cannot install Qubes 4.0 on DVD, and the minimum
> on flash drive to install Qubes 4.0 we must have 32GB?  thanks

4.0rc2 worked fine for me installing from a physical DVD. Haven't tried
rc3, but it looks like it should also fit.

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Re: [qubes-users] Frequent 3.2 crashes , How to troubleshoot?

2018-01-06 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users 
On Sat, January 6, 2018 5:32 pm, yreb...@riseup.net wrote:

>
> The "OOM" bug, as I read it on the URL, seems to indicate only that "X"
> crashes, in my case more often the whole system has rebooted, but perhaps
> the OOM could also cause that?
>
> Plus "grep" seems to find  only 2 entries , and I've had many such
> crashes :)

Look through that journalctl log manually and try to find more crashes.
Might be something else besides OOM causing them too. Also, look through
/var/log/xen/console/hypervisor.log for crash messages.

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[qubes-users] hey, Please confirm we cannot install Qubes 4.0 on DVD, and the minimum on flash drive to install

2018-01-06 Thread russlyatoslav 
 hey,  Please confirm we cannot install Qubes 4.0 on DVD, and the minimum on 
flash drive to install Qubes 4.0 we must have 32GB?  thanks 

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Re: [qubes-users] Frequent 3.2 crashes , How to troubleshoot?

2018-01-06 Thread yrebstv 
On 2018-01-06 03:13, awokd wrote:
> On Sat, January 6, 2018 4:06 am, yreb...@riseup.net wrote:
> 
>> Despite not using the Wireless, once in a while it pops up asking me if
>> I want to connect , and I just close the window. I'm really not sure, if
>> there is a better way to "disable" it, or if that explains  the   entry
>> above  ?
> 
> Unless that helped with the crashes, go ahead and keep using wireless. I
> think this is actually what you are hitting:
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3079. You can see if it's
> the same issue by doing a "sudo journalctl" after a crash and looking for
> those messages about oom-killer.

I browsed through that URL and did this on my system:

[quser4@dom0 Desktop]$ journalctl|grep oom
Dec 27 21:11:28 dom0 kernel: Xorg invoked oom-killer:
gfp_mask=0x240c0d0(GFP_TEMPORARY|__GFP_COMP|__GFP_ZERO), nodemask=0,
order=3, oom_score_adj=0
Dec 27 21:11:28 dom0 kernel:  []
oom_kill_process+0x219/0x3e0
Dec 27 21:11:28 dom0 kernel: [ pid ]   uid  tgid total_vm  rss
nr_ptes nr_pmds swapents oom_score_adj name
Dec 27 21:11:28 dom0 kernel: oom_reaper: reaped process 5560 (Xorg), now
anon-rss:0kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:270816kB
Jan 03 12:25:17 dom0 kernel: Xorg invoked oom-killer:
gfp_mask=0x240c0d0(GFP_TEMPORARY|__GFP_COMP|__GFP_ZERO), nodemask=0,
order=3, oom_score_adj=0
Jan 03 12:25:17 dom0 kernel:  []
oom_kill_process+0x219/0x3e0
Jan 03 12:25:17 dom0 kernel: [ pid ]   uid  tgid total_vm  rss
nr_ptes nr_pmds swapents oom_score_adj name
Jan 03 12:25:17 dom0 kernel: oom_reaper: reaped process 5545 (Xorg), now
anon-rss:0kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:422640kB

The "OOM" bug, as I read it on the URL, seems to indicate only that "X"
crashes, in my case more often the whole system has rebooted, but
perhaps the OOM could also cause that?

Plus "grep" seems to find  only 2 entries , and I've had many such
crashes :)


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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 4.0 rc3, Whonix template: update-command-not-found

2018-01-06 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users 
On Sat, January 6, 2018 1:19 am, Fabrizio Romano Genovese wrote:
> Yup, if you type curl it works, but you can't curl anything out of it

OK, I see what you mean. What are you trying to accomplish? If it's just a
one time file copy, you could use qvm-copy-to-vm to copy it to your
template from another VM that does have network access. If it's a curl you
want to run on every startup of a disposable VM, there should be some way
to script that. Be careful to not customize it too much though, because if
you make a change that affects Tor browser itself you might make it easily
fingerprintable.

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Re: [qubes-users] Netowork Manager not running (minimal VM)

2018-01-06 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users 
On Sat, January 6, 2018 1:56 am, Fabrizio Romano Genovese wrote:
> Great! I just proposed some changes ^_^
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-doc/pull/508

Thank you! I think that will help a lot of people.

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Re: [qubes-users] Frequent 3.2 crashes , How to troubleshoot?

2018-01-06 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users 
On Sat, January 6, 2018 4:06 am, yreb...@riseup.net wrote:

> Despite not using the Wireless, once in a while it pops up asking me if
> I want to connect , and I just close the window. I'm really not sure, if
> there is a better way to "disable" it, or if that explains  the   entry
> above  ?

Unless that helped with the crashes, go ahead and keep using wireless. I
think this is actually what you are hitting:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3079. You can see if it's
the same issue by doing a "sudo journalctl" after a crash and looking for
those messages about oom-killer.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: [qubes-devel] Qubes Controller as the new Qubes-Manager

2018-01-06 Thread Outback Dingo 
On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 6:27 AM, 'Tom Zander' via qubes-devel
 wrote:
> On Saturday, 6 January 2018 00:11:43 GMT Franz wrote:
>> I would add some way to make some order in the
>> applVM list, so that a standard view may show only the most commonly used
>> VMs, while rarely used VMs are hidden and shown only clicking a button. To
>> do that, there should be a flag to differentiate the visibility of VMs.
>
> I made a start with this based on my own usage; See the attached
> screenshots.
> Going from screenshot1 (showing all my qubes) to 5 by removing ones based
> on;
> * being templates for disposable VMs. (you likely never want to start them
> after initial configuration).
> * being a "network" VM.
> * Being a template.
> * Being halted.
>
> Naturally you can combine those settings in any way you want to show the
> subsection of qubes you use.
> I expect that I''l end up using the settings as "snapshot4" shows it most of
> the time.
>
>> This may be helpful also in a corporate environment when an administrator
>> can decide which VMs should be shown and which should be hidden.
>
> This is a great idea, I recall that root added tags in 4.0. I have not tried
> them yet, but it sounds like a good fit.
>
> Thanks for the ideas!
>

This runs on 4.0-RC2 ??


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[qubes-users] Q4.0 rc3 (current testing) - power off/ suspend issues.

2018-01-06 Thread haaber 
Happy new year!  I experience since Q4.rc2 some problems connected to
power-off or suspends. They are of minor annoyance, but maybe they can
be improved ...
1) after 0-10 succesful suspends (on a HP zbook 14 laptop) the hdd will
no longer power off any more at a new lid-down suspend. After lid-reopen
& login, I can no longer start any qubes (neither startmenu nor
qvm-start in dom0) or execute any command in running qubes (neither
start-menu nor using qvm-run in dom0); if I happen to have a terminal
open in a running qube, commands will be executed as expected.
Additonally sys-whonix connection dies.
=> The isuue requires a reboot to solve.
2) Reboots hang systematically at "Reached target shutdown" and has to
be rebooted via a coldboot.

Bernhard

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[qubes-users] Re: HOWTO: Compiling Kernels for dom0

2018-01-06 Thread Foppe de Haan 
On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 6:41:02 PM UTC+1, Frédéric Pierret (fepitre) 
wrote:
> Le mardi 28 novembre 2017 18:33:38 UTC+1, Foppe de Haan a écrit :
> > guest-wd.log from a (fedora) VM that won't boot with kernel-qubes-vm-4.14.2:
> 
> I confirm your log and the behavior. Few days ago, I tried to look on the xen 
> and kernel list to see if there were something bug we need to dig into the 
> problem...need time...

FYI: HW42: "It's an upstream Linux bug. See 
https://github.com/HW42/qubes-linux-kernel/blob/hw42/latest/patches.xen/xen-Fix-set-clear-_foreign_p2m_mapping-on-autotransl.patch
 for a patch."

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3404#issuecomment-355724725

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[qubes-users] Re: HOWTO: Compiling Kernels for dom0

2018-01-06 Thread Foppe de Haan 
fepitre, reg, FYI: 
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3404#issuecomment-355724725

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