Re: [qubes-users] Is not safe to use Qubes OS 3.2?

['awokd' via qubes-users]

davidmizr2...@gmail.com:

Hi, i'm asking because my hardware is not compatible with qubes 4.0

Is not safe to use Qubes OS 3.2?

Thanks

It is less safe to use 3.2 than it used to be when it was getting 
patches. It doesn't immediately become unsafe once it is no longer 
supported, especially if you are keeping the templates up to date with 
security patches. However, the longer you stay on 3.2, the less safe it 
gets.


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[qubes-users] Is not safe to use Qubes OS 3.2?

[davidmizr2015]

Hi, i'm asking because my hardware is not compatible with qubes 4.0

Is not safe to use Qubes OS 3.2?

Thanks

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[qubes-users] Sometimes randomly shuts off at encryption screen

[Frozentime345]

Sometimes when I boot up the system freezes in the middle of typing my 
encryption password and shuts down. Happens rarely.


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[qubes-users] Qubes Canary #20

[Andrew David Wong]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA512

Dear Qubes Community,

We have published Qubes Canary #20. The text of this canary is
reproduced below. This canary and its accompanying signatures will
always be available in the Qubes Security Pack (qubes-secpack).

View Qubes Canary #20 in the qubes-secpack:



Learn about the qubes-secpack, including how to obtain, verify, and read
it:



View all past canaries:



```


---===[ Qubes Canary #20 ]===---


Statements
- ---

The Qubes core developers who have digitally signed this file [1]
state the following:

1. The date of issue of this canary is July  3, 2019.

2. There have been 49 Qubes Security Bulletins published so far.

3. The Qubes Master Signing Key fingerprint is:

427F 11FD 0FAA 4B08 0123  F01C DDFA 1A3E 3687 9494

4. No warrants have ever been served to us with regard to the Qubes OS
Project (e.g. to hand out the private signing keys or to introduce
backdoors).

5. We plan to publish the next of these canary statements in the first
two weeks of October 2019. Special note should be taken if no new canary
is published by that time or if the list of statements changes without
plausible explanation.

Special announcements
- --

None.

Disclaimers and notes
- --

We would like to remind you that Qubes OS has been designed under the
assumption that all relevant infrastructure is permanently
compromised.  This means that we assume NO trust in any of the servers
or services which host or provide any Qubes-related data, in
particular, software updates, source code repositories, and Qubes ISO
downloads.

This canary scheme is not infallible. Although signing the declaration
makes it very difficult for a third party to produce arbitrary
declarations, it does not prevent them from using force or other
means, like blackmail or compromising the signers' laptops, to coerce
us to produce false declarations.

The news feeds quoted below (Proof of freshness) serves to demonstrate
that this canary could not have been created prior to the date stated.
It shows that a series of canaries was not created in advance.

This declaration is merely a best effort and is provided without any
guarantee or warranty. It is not legally binding in any way to
anybody. None of the signers should be ever held legally responsible
for any of the statements made here.

Proof of freshness
- ---

$ date -R -u
Wed, 03 Jul 2019 23:32:11 +

$ feedstail -1 -n5 -f '{title}' -u 
https://www.spiegel.de/international/index.rss
No Way Back: Why Most Syrian Refugees Want to Stay in Germany
Lifelong Refugees: Ethiopia Is the Ultimate Destination for Many Fleeing Home
Former Secretary of Defense Panetta on Iran: 'You Can Create Chaos, but You'd 
Better Have a Plan'
'Hell Is Coming': What Lies Ahead for Europe's Climate
Amores Perros: The Paco-Addicted Youth of Buenos Aires

$ feedstail -1 -n5 -f '{title}' -u 
https://rss.nytimes.com/services/xml/rss/nyt/World.xml
Rouhani Says Iran Will Begin Enriching Uranium at Higher Level in Days
As Protests Rock Hong Kong, Xi Jinping’s View of History Shows He Will Dig In
Airstrike Kills Dozens of Migrants at Detention Center in Tripoli
Rahul Gandhi Resigns as Leader of India’s Congress Party
Ethiopian-Israelis Protest for 3rd Day After Fatal Police Shooting

$ feedstail -1 -n5 -f '{title}' -u https://feeds.bbci.co.uk/news/world/rss.xml
Stromboli: One dead as volcano erupts on Italian island
Wolf Pack ruling: New Spain sex attack trial reignites rape law debate
Boeing gives $100m to help 737 Max crash families
Manslaughter charges dropped against shot pregnant mum
Warehouse fire destroys 40,000 barrels of bourbon

$ feedstail -1 -n5 -f '{title}' -u http://feeds.reuters.com/reuters/worldnews
Frustration of surviving pricey Hong Kong stirs protest anger
26 dead in fishing boat accident off Honduran coast
Putin to meet pope in shadow of Ukraine crisis
Boeing makes $100 million pledge for 737 MAX crash-related support
At least 44 die as air strike hits Libya migrant detention center: U.N.

$ curl -s 'https://blockchain.info/blocks/?format=json' |\
  python3 -c 'import sys, json; 
print(json.load(sys.stdin)['\''blocks'\''][10]['\''hash'\''])'
001afc39b5099b6b7f60700f44e82f44e0010099ce3519a0


Footnotes
- --

[1] This file should be signed in two ways: (1) via detached PGP
signatures by each of the signers, distributed together with this
canary in the qubes-secpack.git repo, and (2) via digital signatures
on the corresponding qubes-secpack.git repo tags. [2]

[2] Don't just trust the contents of this file blindly! Verify the
digital signatures!
```

This announcement is also available on the Qubes website:
https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2019/07/04/canary-20/

- -- 
Andrew David Wong 

Re: [qubes-users] How do I install programs in Windows 7 Qube?

['awokd' via qubes-users]

oak2...@gmail.com:
> On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 4:18:05 PM UTC-4, awokd wrote:
> 
>>> On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 7:32:32 PM UTC-4, awokd wrote:
>>>
> Installer programs I believe need to be run from the windows os, so not 
> sure how to copy it to the desktop of the os to run it.
>

 If you have the windows tools properly installed, you should be able to 
 copy to it from a different VM with qvm-copy.
>>>
>>> Great, now I can't install Windows Tools.  When I type in the command from 
>>> Qubes website it says:
>>>
>>> Cannot retrieve repository metadata (respond.xml) for repository: 
>>> Qubes-dom0-current.
>>>
>> A repo is temporarily unavailable. Try again tomorrow. In the meantime,
>> it would probably be a good idea to shutdown your win7 VM and make a
>> clone. Installing those Windows Tools can often result in a broken VM if
>> you miss a step, so you want to have a good copy.
> 
> Tried to clone qube, got error: " Got empty response from qubesd.  See 
> journalctl in dom0 for details."
> 
What were the details, and what troubleshooting steps did you take in
response to them?

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Re: [qubes-users] Software market not working. Can’t update qubes and can’t download large files

[shamaarmartin96]

Thanks. Also I downloaded an appimage but when I try to make it executable I 
get the error No such file or directory followed with another error saying 
cannot update repo all mirrors tried Curl error (6)

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[qubes-users] Re: Whonix 15 has been released

[Jon deps]

On 7/4/19 2:12 AM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:

Jon deps:

On 7/3/19 8:33 PM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:



dom0: dnf list installed


well this doesn't show the version  all the other qubes-mgmt-salt  show
versions but Not

qubes-mgmt-salt-dom0-virtual-machines.noarch


Try dnf info then.



ah ok so
$dnf info says

I'm on
Installed Packages
Name: qubes-mgmt-salt-dom0-virtual-machines
Arch: noarch
Epoch   : 0
Version : 4.0.15
Release : 1.fc25


not 4.0.16
and
$sudo qubes-dom0-update
says no updates


so, is one supposed to be updating dom0  some other way ?

I do note that whonix-15 seems to be installed , but maybe with  4.0.16 
one would not have had to chage  the  "jinja" settings from 14 -> 15 ?


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Re: [qubes-users] disadvantage of using an unsupported version of qubes os

[davidmizr2015]

Hi, i'm asking because my hardware is not compatible with qubes 4.0

Is not safe to use Qubes OS 3.2?

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Re: [qubes-users] disadvantage of using an unsupported version of qubes os

[davidmizr2015]

On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 11:51:53 AM UTC-4, unman wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 08:38:58AM -0700, davidmizr2...@gmail.com wrote:
> > what is the disadvantage of using an unsupported version of qubes os such 
> > qubes Release 3.2.1 ?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> 
> It is, of course, unsupported.
> The 600 or so bugs in 3.2 wont be fixed, and new bugs wont be recorded.
> 
> More importantly, 4.0 has many defaults (and hardware requirements) that
> represent significant improvements in security over 3.2

Hi, i'm asking because my hardware is not compatible with qubes 4.0

Is not safe to use Qubes OS 3.2?

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[qubes-users] Re: ANN: Qubes-vpn-support v1.4.1 released!

[Jon deps]

On 6/20/19 8:00 PM, Chris Laprise wrote:
Version 1.4.1 of Qubes-vpn-support has been released. It includes tweaks 
for smoother operation, greater control over the firewall, and revised 
docs in the Readme:


https://github.com/tasket/Qubes-vpn-support

Features

     Provides a fail closed, antileak VPN tunnel environment
     Isolates the tunnel client within a dedicated Proxy VM
     Prevents configuration errors
     Separate firewall VM not required

Easy setup

     Simple install script; No file editing or IP numbers necessary
     Lets you 'drop in' configuration files from VPN service provider
     Flexible installation into template or to individual ProxyVMs

New in this version, v1.4.1

     Qubes 4.0.1 support
     Control over specific firewall restrictions
     Better compatibility with MTU fragmentation detection

New in v1.4.0

     Anti-leak for IPv6
     All DNS requests forced to chosen VPN DNS
     Firewall integrity checked before connecting
     Quicker re-connection
     Supports passwordless cert authentication


* Also note that Qubes 3.x is no longer detected or supported.

* Updating to the new version is simple and described in the 
'Quickstart' guide.


* For users of qubes-tunnel (twin vpn project), an equivalent update is 
forthcoming in the next week. However, if you wish to switch to 
Qubes-vpn-support now, you can install it without issues for a new VPN VM.





Which Debian-9  packages besides  openvpn  need to be installed in the 
Template for  QVS  to work ?


I'm finding that
sudo apt-get install openvpn   isn't enough on the default Deb-9 
Template just installed,  and  copying over backed up  AppVMs from 
another machine.


It does worked with another Debian-9 template copied over from the other 
machine  but I'd like to use the fresh installed Deb-9 on the new 
machine instead.



am finding that  bash ./install   is  just returning  empty   if it's 
installed already . would that be normal ?



Regards

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Re: [qubes-users] How do I install programs in Windows 7 Qube?

[oak2572]

On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 4:18:05 PM UTC-4, awokd wrote:

> > On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 7:32:32 PM UTC-4, awokd wrote:
> > 
> >>> Installer programs I believe need to be run from the windows os, so not 
> >>> sure how to copy it to the desktop of the os to run it.
> >>>
> >>
> >> If you have the windows tools properly installed, you should be able to 
> >> copy to it from a different VM with qvm-copy.
> > 
> > Great, now I can't install Windows Tools.  When I type in the command from 
> > Qubes website it says:
> > 
> > Cannot retrieve repository metadata (respond.xml) for repository: 
> > Qubes-dom0-current.
> > 
> A repo is temporarily unavailable. Try again tomorrow. In the meantime,
> it would probably be a good idea to shutdown your win7 VM and make a
> clone. Installing those Windows Tools can often result in a broken VM if
> you miss a step, so you want to have a good copy.

Tried to clone qube, got error: " Got empty response from qubesd.  See 
journalctl in dom0 for details."

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: No vpn-handler-openvpn in service tab

[Chris Laprise]

On 7/4/19 4:16 AM, l1am9...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 6:32:55 AM UTC, Philip Pians wrote:

On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 3:49:42 AM UTC, Chris Laprise wrote:

On 7/3/19 5:34 PM, Philip Pians wrote:

Must be doing something wrong? Wanted to do the test stage and discovered no 
file called vpn-client-conf. There’s only Openvpn.ovpn; ca.crt; client.crt, and 
client.key that download from VPN provider. Help please.



Where it says:

sudo cp US_East.ovpn vpn-client.conf

...the 'US_East.ovpn' is just an example. So you would do this instead:

sudo cp Openvpn.ovpn vpn-client.conf

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Ooh, overlooked that step. How about the directory called “Qubes-vpn-support” 
that is supposed to be copied? Or is that another directory I can just create? 
Qubes is starting to make me feel computer illiterate since can’t even get the 
basics right.


Qubes-vpn-support is the repository at 
https://github.com/tasket/Qubes-vpn-support.
You need to clone it with these commands:
1. Install git if its not installed with "sudo dnf install git" or "sudo apt install 
git"
2. Run "git clone https://github.com/tasket/Qubes-vpn-support.git;
3. Then the "Qubes-vpn-support" directory will exist



If you're not familiar with git, you can easily download 
Qubes-vpn-support from a browser: On the Qubes-vpn-support project page, 
click the "Clone or download" button then click "Download ZIP".


If you downloaded it in a different VM than your VPN (proxy) VM, just 
Qubes copy it there:


https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/copying-files/

This is a basic Qubes skill. You may want to review the Common Tasks 
section of the docs to get familiar with Qubes:


https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/#common-tasks

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Re: [qubes-users] disadvantage of using an unsupported version of qubes os

[unman]

On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 08:38:58AM -0700, davidmizr2...@gmail.com wrote:
> what is the disadvantage of using an unsupported version of qubes os such 
> qubes Release 3.2.1 ?
> 
> Thanks
> 

It is, of course, unsupported.
The 600 or so bugs in 3.2 wont be fixed, and new bugs wont be recorded.

More importantly, 4.0 has many defaults (and hardware requirements) that
represent significant improvements in security over 3.2

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Re: [qubes-users] Debian-10 Buster coming in 3 days? scheduled for July 6th

[unman]

On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 04:39:48PM -0700, drok...@gmail.com wrote:
> Just read an article, that says Buster is scheduled to be released this 
> Saturday, July 6th.  Any confirmation of this?
> 
> https://itsfoss.com/debian-10-buster/
> 

>From the horse's mouth:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2019/06/msg3.html

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[qubes-users] disadvantage of using an unsupported version of qubes os

[davidmizr2015]

what is the disadvantage of using an unsupported version of qubes os such qubes 
Release 3.2.1 ?

Thanks

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[qubes-users] Re: Browsers

[drokmed]

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 6:22:48 PM UTC-7, Epinsion Polickye wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am attempting to use my personal domain to use a few services, however I'm 
> finding a particular issue with two services.
> 
> When I attempt to watch some particular videos from pluralsight, or access a 
> service in Office365, the site loops / reloads 3-20 times before failing to 
> load the resource. Errors in the browser console seem to indicate it is to do 
> will supported file types and codecs.
> 
> I don't have any blockers, issues with cookies, issues with filters.
> 
> Attempted to resolve by installing some gstreamer plugins to no avail (with 
> untrusted repos, without checking signatures etc).
> 
> Can anyone provide recommended reading for:
> - Trusting new repos, adding them, verifying signatures, and why (what 
> threats am I defending against, and the likelihood of such threats occuring?)
> - Linux video and audio formats, mimetypes, the defaults, how to add all of 
> them / common types (good, bad, and ugly) 
> - Linux + firefox - getting the services I mentioned to work, and ensure 
> codecs and the like are available for other services in the future (want to 
> avoid a similar issue - disruptive to productivity)
> - advice if anyone has come across such issues before
> 
> Thanks a heap.

For multimedia, I use the Qubes Debian Multimedia qube:

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multimedia/

It uses google chrome, which by default, comes with all codecs and multimedia 
stuff installed.  I use it for youtube mainly, but any multimedia site should 
work fine with it.

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[qubes-users] Re: Install on an up to date Macbook

[Matthias Brumm]

Am Donnerstag, 4. Juli 2019 12:59:10 UTC+2 schrieb Daniil Travnikov:
> On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 9:53:42 AM UTC+3, Matthias Brumm wrote:
> > > 
> > I have a booted system now, but without working keyboard, trackpad (using 
> > external keyboard+mouse), wifi (crashing when attaching to sys-net). 
> > Perhaps Apple is doing some nasty things to lock up their Macbook.
> > 
> > Matthias
> 
> 
> Did you try the last Kernel version from Qubes testing repository?

No, I could try that I suppose, when I am getting some kind of network running.

Matthias

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[qubes-users] Re: Install on an up to date Macbook

[Daniil Travnikov]

On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 9:53:42 AM UTC+3, Matthias Brumm wrote:
> > 
> I have a booted system now, but without working keyboard, trackpad (using 
> external keyboard+mouse), wifi (crashing when attaching to sys-net). Perhaps 
> Apple is doing some nasty things to lock up their Macbook.
> 
> Matthias


Did you try the last Kernel version from Qubes testing repository?

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: No vpn-handler-openvpn in service tab

[l1am9111]

On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 6:32:55 AM UTC, Philip Pians wrote:
> On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 3:49:42 AM UTC, Chris Laprise wrote:
> > On 7/3/19 5:34 PM, Philip Pians wrote:
> > > Must be doing something wrong? Wanted to do the test stage and discovered 
> > > no file called vpn-client-conf. There’s only Openvpn.ovpn; ca.crt; 
> > > client.crt, and client.key that download from VPN provider. Help please.
> > > 
> > 
> > Where it says:
> > 
> > sudo cp US_East.ovpn vpn-client.conf
> > 
> > ...the 'US_East.ovpn' is just an example. So you would do this instead:
> > 
> > sudo cp Openvpn.ovpn vpn-client.conf
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> > Chris Laprise, tas...@posteo.net
> > https://github.com/tasket
> > https://twitter.com/ttaskett
> > PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB  4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886
> 
> Ooh, overlooked that step. How about the directory called “Qubes-vpn-support” 
> that is supposed to be copied? Or is that another directory I can just 
> create? Qubes is starting to make me feel computer illiterate since can’t 
> even get the basics right.

Qubes-vpn-support is the repository at 
https://github.com/tasket/Qubes-vpn-support.
You need to clone it with these commands:
1. Install git if its not installed with "sudo dnf install git" or "sudo apt 
install git"
2. Run "git clone https://github.com/tasket/Qubes-vpn-support.git;
3. Then the "Qubes-vpn-support" directory will exist

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[qubes-users] Re: Install on an up to date Macbook

[Matthias Brumm]

Am Dienstag, 2. Juli 2019 13:24:17 UTC+2 schrieb Matthias Brumm:
> Am Samstag, 29. Juni 2019 01:25:07 UTC+2 schrieb Daniil Travnikov:
> > Do not leave this thread after your any steps (successful or not) because I 
> > want to buy Macbook 12-inch for Qubes OS in near future. And I will keep my 
> > eyes on this thread. Thank you in advance.
> 
> At the moment the systems boots up and presents me a black screen with 
> mouse-cursor and restarts a short while after that.
> 
I have a booted system now, but without working keyboard, trackpad (using 
external keyboard+mouse), wifi (crashing when attaching to sys-net). Perhaps 
Apple is doing some nasty things to lock up their Macbook.

Matthias

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: No vpn-handler-openvpn in service tab

[Philip Pians]

On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 3:49:42 AM UTC, Chris Laprise wrote:
> On 7/3/19 5:34 PM, Philip Pians wrote:
> > Must be doing something wrong? Wanted to do the test stage and discovered 
> > no file called vpn-client-conf. There’s only Openvpn.ovpn; ca.crt; 
> > client.crt, and client.key that download from VPN provider. Help please.
> > 
> 
> Where it says:
> 
> sudo cp US_East.ovpn vpn-client.conf
> 
> ...the 'US_East.ovpn' is just an example. So you would do this instead:
> 
> sudo cp Openvpn.ovpn vpn-client.conf
> 
> -- 
> 
> Chris Laprise, tas...@posteo.net
> https://github.com/tasket
> https://twitter.com/ttaskett
> PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB  4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886

Ooh, overlooked that step. How about the directory called “Qubes-vpn-support” 
that is supposed to be copied? Or is that another directory I can just create? 
Qubes is starting to make me feel computer illiterate since can’t even get the 
basics right. 

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