Re: [qubes-users] Done with Qubes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 O K: > Thanks for all the help but I've been trying to figure out how to > get Qubes running for months and I've decided it's just a giant > waste of my time because every time I get one bug fixed, two more > show up to take it's place. I think it's a brilliant idea but it > needs a lot of work and streamlining before it's ready for public > use. It's a shame because my privacy and anonymity online are a > matter of my personal safety and it would be nice to have a secure > OS. TAILS is not a fully usable system either. I will have to > install Ubuntu. Good luck, everyone. > Dear oak2572, I understand your sentiment about the issues rising during your usage of the OS. You need a reliable and just working thing. My 2 cents to this are simple, and it solved all my issues with QubesOS. In my case it was simply a matter of hardware selected. It can be tricky to select the right one, but we have the excellent and updated list of supported HW. Im my case and for my use I am absolutely happy with the Asus Zenbook UX305F. It is not a beast, but is capable to run qubes without any issues. I also recommended QubesOS to other friends and it ended up same way as in your case - they gave up cause of need to heavily mod the existing HW and its SW part. If security, privacy, anonymity (you consider Tails too, right?) matters to you, try to reconsider the HW you try to run the QubesOS on. I am pretty sure this solves the issues fast and it will simply be a breeze. Good luck and fly safe! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQKTBAEBCgB9FiEExlmPb5HoPUTt+CQT44JZDAWK6UwFAl1jdNxfFIAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEM2 NTk4RjZGOTFFODNENDRFREY4MjQxM0UzODI1OTBDMDU4QUU5NEMACgkQ44JZDAWK 6UwZChAAjLQSzAqsX3nk6f1w4l2uFClGueXYtJZgKvyvP3TCOzaD5ZxzvXJLLgtr 5DyLUcQGJ4hX1xdIGkevPxQy05jz0swr8Bi+yJWJhrfza0GQvRvkVlDN9AkZ5cgu 6HBPDVi2IeZicWfKBAfr1ed+Onx/vmwbLqzqqFBs/f4/4U2VDJBfv52eX6NkGn/n RIOT5UQ3pRBsig69HviXR9Awvuh231Ltxu/CCUdcwECWkZVEhNr62EAsMNPiyCoL 4ge8d62tY/AQD+EWvRLmPsfA6NEvSdzlyMuMFDZNn5CRFaRZnwzaVzdaq4DNaaXs ST9/99WQAYkKSdogGa2Gm7jKg+uUynSHzCW85y+vJu4DIYpVB/8sllsCLWUMdmgx ZLw/gDhPEredszfeixrQd3cLxe5ZyQrE0HCGmWR8X4ABkAA/VQs6tC39I5rwfUUU 98OHKrGh0aKEYYz9K9ESkPZH233+CyyOGaXXbUiaqtm6a41pEHQNcyICJEQUqR6O lSm9nveZU+C7Ekd/VOUdckyd9cqcVNRidnAVw/DQseIBGSpVdJyxrpLFLYLdVowa rIVnlf9UZ0LxsheqXzZmqkNIA3KtlBbvBDBPjkbqbjtlOGWDWC7UT4WYGzJkBRn8 G2w6IJ4WRr5S373y9+fi5+Fh7wHTk9+BlwH8mcWRXjH8F0VwkJk= =oZve -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/89d0d886-4591-6afc-003f-6b32c1ed8b4a%40cock.li. 0xC1F4E83AF470A4ED.asc Description: application/pgp-keys
Re: [qubes-users] Some problems with 4.0.2-rc1
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donoban:
> On 8/25/19 5:58 PM, Rusty Bird wrote:> Here are some screenshots of how to
> get automatic btrfs partitioning:
> > https://openqa.qubes-os.org/tests/3240 ("install_partitioning_btrfs"
> > is the relevant section.)
>
> Thanks Rusty, after checking the installation again and the test log I think
> that my problem was the "Click here to create them automatically" failed
> because my hard disk was already portioned and has no enough free space so I
> ended using fully manual procedure, I am not sure if I deleted my luks
> partition from there or I switched to a console and used cfdisk. The
> "automatically" button failed so many times that when I achieve to free
> space I didn't try it again. I think that I also tried with "I would like to
> make additional space...", ouch I tested everything except the right path :)
>
> The problem is that getting there with a non empty hard disk can be pretty
> confusing
Definitely. Partitioning is my least favorite part of Anaconda (the
installer used by Fedora and hence Qubes).
> Maybe some dialog saying "This hard disk already contains partitions, do you
> want to create an empty partition table?"
If you have the time and inclination, you might want to submit this
suggestion to the Anaconda bug tracker - after verifying that the
latest Fedora installer has the same defect, which is their bug
submission policy IIRC.
Rusty
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Re: [qubes-users] Some problems with 4.0.2-rc1
On 8/25/19 5:58 PM, Rusty Bird wrote:> Here are some screenshots of how
to get automatic btrfs partitioning:
https://openqa.qubes-os.org/tests/3240 ("install_partitioning_btrfs"
is the relevant section.)
Thanks Rusty, after checking the installation again and the test log I
think that my problem was the "Click here to create them automatically"
failed because my hard disk was already portioned and has no enough free
space so I ended using fully manual procedure, I am not sure if I
deleted my luks partition from there or I switched to a console and used
cfdisk. The "automatically" button failed so many times that when I
achieve to free space I didn't try it again. I think that I also tried
with "I would like to make additional space...", ouch I tested
everything except the right path :)
The problem is that getting there with a non empty hard disk can be
pretty confusing (although once you see the correct steps it seems quite
simple). Maybe some dialog saying "This hard disk already contains
partitions, do you want to create an empty partition table?"
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Re: [qubes-users] Some problems with 4.0.2-rc1
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donoban:
> On 8/25/19 4:22 PM, Rusty Bird wrote:
> > donoban:
> > > 2) Btrfs installation seems too hard. After some tries I did an unbootable
> > > installation.
> >
> > Did you create the btrfs partitions manually or did you use the
> > installer partitioning screen's "Click here to create them
> > automatically" button?
>
> I tried to do it automatically but it did not let me to select 'btrfs'
> option, so I was force to try with manual setup. [...]
>
> I will boot again with the installer media and check if there is a 'btrfs'
> option.
Here are some screenshots of how to get automatic btrfs partitioning:
https://openqa.qubes-os.org/tests/3240 ("install_partitioning_btrfs"
is the relevant section.)
Rusty
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Re: [qubes-users] Some problems with 4.0.2-rc1
On 8/25/19 4:22 PM, Rusty Bird wrote: donoban: 2) Btrfs installation seems too hard. After some tries I did an unbootable installation. Did you create the btrfs partitions manually or did you use the installer partitioning screen's "Click here to create them automatically" button? The latter should work and I'd be very interested if it somehow broke your system. OTOH, manual btrfs partitioning in the installer was horrible last time I tried. I tried to do it automatically but it did not let me to select 'btrfs' option, so I was force to try with manual setup. On manual mode I have to unlock the luks hard disk (from the older installation) and I remember this being problematic too so I ended manually recreating partitions table from console. Then I am not sure what partitions I did, but after finishing installation and rebooting it was unbootable. I will boot again with the installer media and check if there is a 'btrfs' option. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/3b5e2109-17f0-a694-b91d-66b21cdafc8b%40riseup.net.
Re: [qubes-users] Some problems with 4.0.2-rc1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 donoban: > 2) Btrfs installation seems too hard. After some tries I did an unbootable > installation. Did you create the btrfs partitions manually or did you use the installer partitioning screen's "Click here to create them automatically" button? The latter should work and I'd be very interested if it somehow broke your system. OTOH, manual btrfs partitioning in the installer was horrible last time I tried. Rusty -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQKTBAEBCgB9FiEEhLWbz8YrEp/hsG0ERp149HqvKt8FAl1imZhfFIAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDg0 QjU5QkNGQzYyQjEyOUZFMUIwNkQwNDQ2OUQ3OEY0N0FBRjJBREYACgkQRp149Hqv Kt9aCA//UIJTG9AHdtXljzTsbP1DG9+yscjeOZwCb0TjmcjqfL+LYef9duTtmViV ll91cwqjwMxSWfHAxA6D9iy8ho+iEYAIBhWoXBcVgo3Od0Ttxbpywf9lBS5lqq3e c41HDSIknlGeHEtQaIXEY/jFB8CJooZOJqhDuf5C244hLUnkoGpTfRpSPGQnRNxR GayK6S7UFl0kLptdn5Rd8NG6CieFI4P00Tq4Wymx6Jb/ADDTvdQ/EaY/EalHIixK Gj/mMgHTRjGo8g32TX/Y5Z5ZSJ4wRhVYfePBurbj0f8UasZETRNuUsNw+NPXihJx W+OqhSB7OP2f24Ox1bGIoWu4diqy02Hn+c3cCuYSdf70aaSE7gvAAYdpyfbnM1mc qAxdYt9UnxVtOd797FOSLiREHUVkSXY9TLbAdQervdUPyvkecLJg+/oSEQkqyOGc AHImDyjAY/m2G0Y+jeqhbL0V19b7M/o3atDWwKD3WpLcGEueQrcV6BRWx+UY3mk4 Txw7lbTxbpFdrrTapwYBixNL71EjNRHdY7DeC7stZ2xP5JaCpVz6Z1lo+/dZoLpl ZTgPXL7C8CdYpP2jK6ly0emREtxWbxPnVgiygVMwzuCvV4U098F12ulhu65+HyPS wKqA5tTXue5fWkGemqmAXvddnmohnGNYKSsE7RiozKuOmP1URic= =P8fn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20190825142216.GA1611%40mutt.
Re: [qubes-users] Qubes does not recover from crashed X11 (related to shmoverride and GUID)
OK, I have created https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/5273 . There is not much new information in the issue. The main new information is that the recovery by renaming the shm.id.0 and restarting lightdm is just partial – all running VMs lose sound output (until rebooted) and some runnng VMs also hang indefinitely and cannot even respond to qvm-run -p vm-name ls. V6 On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 3:08:41 PM UTC+2, David Hobach wrote: > > On 8/21/19 11:59 PM, Vít Šesták wrote: > > Hello, > > sometimes, Intel driver makes my X11 crash (see X11-crash.log). It > happens > > usually when I rotate the screen, but also sometimes without any > apparent > > reason. I can usually replicate in a minute by rotating the screen like > > crazy. Note that this situation does not happen when I log out or kill > the > > X server. > > > > What's worse, Qubes OS does not recover properly. It displays login > prompt, > > but when I log in, all previously opened windows just flash and the GUID > > crashes. In the debug output, it complains about something related to > SHM, > > see guid.disp7824.log. Even newly started VM don't have a working GUID. > > > > Some debugging with strace has accidentally* pointed me to > > /var/run/qubes/shm.id.0 file. When I rename the file, the GUID seems to > be > > able to start it again. The shm.id.0 fle is recreated with a different > > number and it works again. > > > > I have found that the file is related to shmoverride documented at > > https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-gui-daemon/tree/master/shmoverride . I > > however don't have much further idea about that. Well, it is some X11 > > shared memory and it has some identifier. When the X11 crashes, maybe it > > gets corrupted or maybe just the old file is not removed. I don't think > > there is a corruption of the SHM, as some similar situation happened on > OOM > > kill. So maybe it is just about some final cleaning missing there. Do > you > > have some further idea? > > > > Regards, > > Vít Šesták 'v6ak' > > > > *) Well, I hit a kind of antiheisenbug. GUID does not work when I run it > > with strace (even before the X11 crash), because strace breaks SUID for > > obvious reason. As a result, it will fail when trying to access > > /var/run/qubes/shm.id.0. Nevertheless, this file seems to be relevant, > > although the discovery was rather random. > > Hi Vit, > > I'd recommend opening a respective Qubes issue on github as it looks > like a bug to me. > > BR > David > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/c04a619b-0362-4b0f-ba62-bded7b8512e7%40googlegroups.com.
