Re: [qubes-users] Unicode text in clipboard

2019-10-04 Thread Andrew David Wong

On 2019-10-04 3:25 AM, 'Oli Sturm' via qubes-users wrote:

On Friday, October 4, 2019 12:43 AM, Andrew David Wong  
wrote:


On 2019-10-03 11:42 AM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:




'Oli Sturm' via qubes-users:




Hi,
I found a problem yesterday: I had some markdown text rendered to
HTML with the smartypants option to replace "--" with a long
dash. The generated file contained a unicode entity for that
character, I copied it to the clipboard, then did Ctrl-Shift-C
and Ctrl-Shift-V, then pasted in another VM. Suddenly the unicode
character was gone - the only difference as far as I could tell.
Are there known problems in that area? I don't know which
software package is responsible for this - I'm on R4.0 with
recent updates.





https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/236 says unicode is
supported. If you can recreate it, might be worth submitting a new
issue referencing that one?





Possibly related:https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2845


Agreed, that sounds like the same problem. I did a search but I didn't imagine the issue 
to be so specific to dashes - I was using search terms like "unicode" and 
didn't come up with anything.

Meanwhile it doesn't look like these issues (#2845 and 
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/4739) are going anywhere. Can we 
do anything to analyze the problem more, or are additional use cases required 
to reproduce? I think this is quite important, not just for the purpose of 
copying dashes, but also because broken confidence in the clipboard transfer 
process makes life a lot harder...

Thanks
Oli



The most effective way to make progress on those issues would be to
contribute patches. Short of that, any information you can provide that
would help the devs fix the problem would help.

Aside from that, I'm afraid it's simply a matter of having a small, very 
busy dev team and well over a thousand open issues of which this is only 
one.


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Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org


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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes on Dell Vostro 5581?

2019-10-04 Thread Claudia

Tomáš Vondra:

Hi,

I'm still struggling with the suspend issue, unfortunately, and I'm kinda
stuck so I'd appreciate some ideas what to try.

Everything else seems to be working, but during suspend the laptop gets
stuck (black screen, but I can hear the fans still spinning). And then it
does not wake up, of couse.

I've tried installing new kernel, as described on
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/software-update-dom0/ and I've even switched
to qubes-dom0-current-testing, but neither of that helped :-(

I'm now on kernel 5.2.16, which is newer than what the Fedora/Ubuntu
installs used (and suspend works fine with them), so there has to be
something else, specific to qubes. But I have no idea what, and I'm not
sure how to debug suspend.

Any ideas?

(I've been trying to build Qubes 4.1 as described on
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/qubes-iso-building/, but I keep running into
various issues with that too, so I haven't been able to actually test it.)

thanks



I have the exact same suspend/resume problem on an Inspiron 5975, and 
another user here recently had the same issue with a different laptop. 
So it's pretty common I guess.


Qubes is stuck on F25 right now, and the hardware is too new for the 
software. Same as you, I had it working under F30 with an older kernel, 
but not under Qubes (F25) with a newer kernel, so it appears that maybe 
userland has something to do with it too, not just the kernel.


I haven't been able to find any general remedy for this. I remember 
reading somewhere that upgrading dom0 to F30 is more or less impossible. 
You might be able to narrow down the userland components and upgrade 
them individually, but I have no idea how to go about that. If you find 
anything out, please let me know!


There is a pre-release 4.1 iso available. 
https://openqa.qubes-os.org/tests/3021 - this is a kind of old link so 
newer builds may be available. I could not get it to install on my 
machine so I couldn't test suspend on it, but it might work for you.


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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes on Dell Vostro 5581?

2019-10-04 Thread Tomáš Vondra
Hi,

I'm still struggling with the suspend issue, unfortunately, and I'm kinda 
stuck so I'd appreciate some ideas what to try.

Everything else seems to be working, but during suspend the laptop gets 
stuck (black screen, but I can hear the fans still spinning). And then it 
does not wake up, of couse.

I've tried installing new kernel, as described on 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/software-update-dom0/ and I've even switched 
to qubes-dom0-current-testing, but neither of that helped :-(

I'm now on kernel 5.2.16, which is newer than what the Fedora/Ubuntu 
installs used (and suspend works fine with them), so there has to be 
something else, specific to qubes. But I have no idea what, and I'm not 
sure how to debug suspend.

Any ideas?

(I've been trying to build Qubes 4.1 as described on 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/qubes-iso-building/, but I keep running into 
various issues with that too, so I haven't been able to actually test it.)

thanks

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Re: [qubes-users] Installation on Lenovo ThinkStation P330 (2. generation)

2019-10-04 Thread M
A Lenovo support adviser have tried to install the same version of Qubes OS on 
a P330 with a similar configuration without any problem.

Here is what he did:

“I was able to get Qubes OS installed on the ThinkStation P330 using the link 
provide above.  I used Rufus 3.3 to burn the ISO to a USB device in "dd" mode.  
 
One of the first things I did on my system was boot into BIOS F1 setup -> 
"Exit" tab -> Set "OS Optimized Defaults" to "Disabled".  Once making that 
change, I pressed F12 to Save and Exit BIOS.  
 
I then inserted the USB key into one of the USB ports on the P330, pressed F12 
to get to the BIOS startup menu, and selected the "UEFI" option for the USB 
key.  My system then loaded the Qubes installation GUI screen in which I 
essentially took all the default options to get it installed.  Right now, my 
system is sitting at the Qubes OS desktop screen.”

When I disabled the option "OS Optimized Defaults", saved and restarted the pc, 
I got a black screen already from the pc started up. So I could not even go 
into bios.

As I couldn’t clear the CMOS by moving a jumper on the motherboard, support 
members at Lenovo think it’s related to hardware failure. And a technician from 
Lenovo will come at Monday and change the motherboard.

I return with an update after trying to install Qubes OS again afterwards.

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Re: [qubes-users] Unicode text in clipboard

2019-10-04 Thread 'Oli Sturm' via qubes-users
On Friday, October 4, 2019 12:43 AM, Andrew David Wong  
wrote:

> On 2019-10-03 11:42 AM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:
> 

> > 'Oli Sturm' via qubes-users:
> > 

> > > Hi,
> > > I found a problem yesterday: I had some markdown text rendered to
> > > HTML with the smartypants option to replace "--" with a long
> > > dash. The generated file contained a unicode entity for that
> > > character, I copied it to the clipboard, then did Ctrl-Shift-C
> > > and Ctrl-Shift-V, then pasted in another VM. Suddenly the unicode
> > > character was gone - the only difference as far as I could tell.
> > > Are there known problems in that area? I don't know which
> > > software package is responsible for this - I'm on R4.0 with
> > > recent updates.
> > 

> > https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/236 says unicode is
> > supported. If you can recreate it, might be worth submitting a new
> > issue referencing that one?
> 

> Possibly related:https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2845

Agreed, that sounds like the same problem. I did a search but I didn't imagine 
the issue to be so specific to dashes - I was using search terms like "unicode" 
and didn't come up with anything.

Meanwhile it doesn't look like these issues (#2845 and 
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/4739) are going anywhere. Can we 
do anything to analyze the problem more, or are additional use cases required 
to reproduce? I think this is quite important, not just for the purpose of 
copying dashes, but also because broken confidence in the clipboard transfer 
process makes life a lot harder...

Thanks
Oli

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