Re: [qubes-users] dependency problem after upgrading standalone debian 11 VM

2023-04-14 Thread qubes-lists

Hi unman,


I'd probably be rolling back most of your recent changes, and starting
again, after making sure that I have a decent backup of the qube in its
current state.
You need to roll back those packages, and -f should work for the
install. I have some old templates hanging about - if you can wait until
tomorrow I'll pull one and work through the process in the morning.


thanks that is very kind, I'll wait until tomorrow then.

thank you!

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Re: [qubes-users] dependency problem after upgrading standalone debian 11 VM

2023-04-14 Thread 'unman' via qubes-users
On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 04:10:29PM +0200, qubes-li...@riseup.net wrote:
> Hi uman,
> 
> thanks for your reply.
> 
> 'unman' via qubes-users:
> > Exactly this issue arose on GitHub - it is, as you say, because you did
> > not update the qubes repository definition in timely way.
> > You can read the issue 
> > [here](https://github.com/qubesos/qubes-issues/issues/7865)
> 
> > The resolution is to follow the steps in the upgrade script - courtesy
> > of Marek:
> > ```
> > The source of the problem is that in R4.1 we actually stopped shipping own 
> > duplicated xen packages, and are relying on those from official Debian 
> > repositories. But the upgrade path requires manual step because of that.
> > The in-place R4.0 -> R4.1 upgrade tool handle that automatically, but in 
> > case of manual upgrade, see this part:
> > https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-dist-upgrade/blob/release4.0/scripts/upgrade-template-standalone.sh#L37-L72
> > ```
> 
> Yes I know about this github ticket, I mentioned in my last email, but
> I have the impression that these step can not be used _after_
> running 'apt update; apt upgrade; apt dist-upgrade' anymore - which is the 
> situation I'm in.
> 
> Is there also a way to recover a system after the 'apt upgrade' step happened 
> already?
> 

I'd probably be rolling back most of your recent changes, and starting
again, after making sure that I have a decent backup of the qube in its
current state.
You need to roll back those packages, and -f should work for the
install. I have some old templates hanging about - if you can wait until
tomorrow I'll pull one and work through the process in the morning.

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Re: [qubes-users] dependency problem after upgrading standalone debian 11 VM

2023-04-14 Thread qubes-lists

Hi uman,

thanks for your reply.

'unman' via qubes-users:

Exactly this issue arose on GitHub - it is, as you say, because you did
not update the qubes repository definition in timely way.
You can read the issue 
[here](https://github.com/qubesos/qubes-issues/issues/7865)



The resolution is to follow the steps in the upgrade script - courtesy
of Marek:
```
The source of the problem is that in R4.1 we actually stopped shipping own 
duplicated xen packages, and are relying on those from official Debian 
repositories. But the upgrade path requires manual step because of that.
The in-place R4.0 -> R4.1 upgrade tool handle that automatically, but in case 
of manual upgrade, see this part:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-dist-upgrade/blob/release4.0/scripts/upgrade-template-standalone.sh#L37-L72
```


Yes I know about this github ticket, I mentioned in my last email, but
I have the impression that these step can not be used _after_
running 'apt update; apt upgrade; apt dist-upgrade' anymore - which is the 
situation I'm in.

Is there also a way to recover a system after the 'apt upgrade' step happened 
already?

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Re: [qubes-users] dependency problem after upgrading standalone debian 11 VM

2023-04-14 Thread 'unman' via qubes-users
Exactly this issue arose on GitHub - it is, as you say, because you did
not update the qubes repository definition in timely way.
You can read the issue 
[here](https://github.com/qubesos/qubes-issues/issues/7865)

The resolution is to follow the steps in the upgrade script - courtesy
of Marek:
```
The source of the problem is that in R4.1 we actually stopped shipping own 
duplicated xen packages, and are relying on those from official Debian 
repositories. But the upgrade path requires manual step because of that.
The in-place R4.0 -> R4.1 upgrade tool handle that automatically, but in case 
of manual upgrade, see this part:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-dist-upgrade/blob/release4.0/scripts/upgrade-template-standalone.sh#L37-L72
```

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[qubes-users] Good USB-C docking station?

2023-04-14 Thread nonsense via qubes-users
I'm desperate to find a good USB-C docking station that will work well with my 
Lenovo ThinkPad, >=2 screens (and QubesOS).

The Lenovo one is terrible. On Qubes it never worked for 2 screens and has four 
a couple of months now jittery video via USB-C - if at all.

It's not just me too... A windows colleague reports degrading performance as 
well...

Anyone with good expetience on a model not requiring extra software?

Thanks for any pointers, John

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