[qubes-users] Qubes OS installation freezes at installing bootloader?!
Hi there, does anyone have any idea on how to continue after thin problem? somewhere in the middle of the installation process screen freezes exactly at the moment where installer says "installing bootloader". Every time! If anyone have some solution to this, please share! Thanks in advance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/69848a04-085c-4484-8f59-f9e8ade892a8%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 4.0 Hardware Requirements
On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 8:26:40 AM UTC+2, Andrew David Wong wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 2016-08-29 21:28, Drew White wrote: > > On Saturday, 20 August 2016 04:28:16 UTC+10, Andrew David Wong > > wrote: > >> I don't know enough about the AMD platform to answer > >> definitively, but if I'm interpreting this Twitter exchange > >> correctly, it sounds like you might be right: > >> > >> https://twitter.com/QubesOS/status/756041961203785728 > >> > > > > So what are the actual requirements for Qubes 4? > > > > The minimum requirements haven't been officially announced yet. (Only > the requirements for Qubes Hardware Certification have been). > > - -- > Andrew David Wong (Axon) > Community Manager, Qubes OS > https://www.qubes-os.org > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJXxScVAAoJENtN07w5UDAw7awQAJQKcANK2tzUGhaw+Q0tTK6u > g7EtPJ+BIAikSA73VyMNLPDII3Ys4/rX5mj4m1p7p0q6hESqICn3Uj+4kkcMgeIe > ipzkJma9bx9EWAiLNMU55pB5Co1tX78OBn+A9ESF2doYr95IOLDTNt1ktnIR1ERA > KmKWHD8b0zNmq+cEYYsUKNy12N2r+OM/81lr9V19rpFBP2cYJXph16C8ii/SNf4Z > zj0F+7rYhO0gQ6WzA6g131R9EwoHcQ5UO8ZDtc0ZFZynSnYxQjm7hHdHDEFeG9Nj > /scInlbq4mvHfE3ssEqKjbERqM51dptbpVBaHoMiDvQ975m00fieV8m+IY5ZX6iL > XHsJsGhJ2RfqmteSwh/LPn8GNVUQ77Rtk3mP73xTdjTXHAdWUZzwKlhUxeRxy2Qg > n0YlDQscFQCp8EvvuMjPx0FENbsIZ965KrUTPJBS4CDCpzGAH7w4i79m+eNuyZzd > J5KamNeP9zmWoBJfkdL7jYa32njxFZJm/99Ja75vlGwEvZCiO4aak/sYO69v13N4 > A18TQsSNfXIgCvsgOOZ9QMBpkPYciGgYz/zp5r3a3OJXxlc2Y/IS85C9r+2vwODV > cZp02tJ5gz4cKzscONRkaW8PXVL16MFVp/CAsxEsf6KBUz+rIFfib8Cn+S3nqZox > 4tQGUPsDQti2exnnnSYm > =Qg7x > -END PGP SIGNATURE- If I understood correctly, one peace of the puzzle is Intel EPT (Extended Page Tables) enabled CPU's. So any laptop/notebook with one of them. >> http://ark.intel.com/search/advanced?ExtendedPageTables=true&MarketSegment=MBL but, what I've managed to find on this topic is that you should avoid > - CPU with Intel® vPro Technology (so say good buy to: http://ark.intel.com/search/advanced?s=t&MarketSegment=MBL&VProTechnology=true) and - Intel wireless cards (use Atheros instead) There are also three versions of Intel ME (Management Engine), Commercial and Consumer. They are both bad but consumer version is crippled one (less bad). I'm not sure how can someone pick one or the other but it would be nice to know. Potentially deadliest combination (privacy wise) is: CPU with vPro Technology+Intel wireless card+Intel ME (commercial version) It would be nice if someone could confirm(or deny) this and add some more information regarding other hardware here. Thaks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/45e2ea1e-cb10-4683-baf6-ec9deefd4ce2%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 4.0 Hardware Requirements
On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 8:54:52 AM UTC+2, Andrew David Wong wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 2016-08-29 23:41, Darko Vuković wrote: > > On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 8:26:40 AM UTC+2, Andrew David Wong > > wrote: On 2016-08-29 21:28, Drew White wrote: > >>>> On Saturday, 20 August 2016 04:28:16 UTC+10, Andrew David > >>>> Wong wrote: > >>>>> I don't know enough about the AMD platform to answer > >>>>> definitively, but if I'm interpreting this Twitter > >>>>> exchange correctly, it sounds like you might be right: > >>>>> > >>>>> https://twitter.com/QubesOS/status/756041961203785728 > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> So what are the actual requirements for Qubes 4? > >>>> > > > > The minimum requirements haven't been officially announced yet. > > (Only the requirements for Qubes Hardware Certification have > > been). > > > > > > If I understood correctly, one peace of the puzzle is Intel EPT > > (Extended Page Tables) enabled CPU's. So any laptop/notebook with > > one of them. > > > >>> http://ark.intel.com/search/advanced?ExtendedPageTables= > >>> true&MarketSegment=MBL > > > > but, what I've managed to find on this topic is that you should > > avoid > > > > > > - CPU with Intel® vPro Technology (so say good buy to: > > http://ark.intel.com/search/advanced?s=t&MarketSegment=MBL&; > > VProTechnology=true) > > > > > > and > > > > - Intel wireless cards (use Atheros instead) > > > > There are also three versions of Intel ME (Management Engine), > > Commercial and Consumer. They are both bad but consumer version is > > crippled one (less bad). I'm not sure how can someone pick one or > > the other but it would be nice to know. > > > > Potentially deadliest combination (privacy wise) is: CPU with vPro > > Technology+Intel wireless card+Intel ME (commercial version) > > > > > > It would be nice if someone could confirm(or deny) this and add > > some more information regarding other hardware here. > > > > Thaks > > > > This thread is about hardware *requirements* for 4.0, not hardware > that it would be prudent to avoid for various reasons. > > - -- > Andrew David Wong (Axon) > Community Manager, Qubes OS > https://www.qubes-os.org > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJXxS2zAAoJENtN07w5UDAwiOMQAL86BKrbyZ1c+uha6duEM2b+ > w5XimnFl8AbvFfOEDC9j5m+6KW51HiJ3IASVJRAUCYRrMeqXrdcn7f+lEtsU6tx2 > JfNugcTbz4vAZtA57G+HmhrlNs+7o21sROVXeXGCwfSfs9MaFNQ2G8wUus1CbW8z > yj8cjzwcItbb437fF4HvAobbxqAjyulwdTmMMj0YjTCNjrOfYIpRb6E6HYajo5e4 > 4qyNzdA/O7tPnfqC08SOqCUMZWVUm/eqzK8peRlV5QvGHDfiq/Ck/B6I/uORhrMn > w1TdcsQmG5nS15uPViMa3c1/729rvIDjp7z3CA10s9jxQ6I7rfJQqsL1uykbL0Bi > xgvSbx8MGHUUxiFb51ZXmrlFZFNcATUz7gaxLLGVmnJRUvX/KNjKZcq7BWmy+80l > WmK/mab3OmoD0Gx1Pg8bL5BdeKvLDP5QAh5Vb7ArCNcGErlgRzyhm2AcToFsmRej > BJEDAvYo2yJXEVeDmzH51sp8sBYdWU5V3WbdgjOG5Vn23UqgtIBWiof3NmHl37OB > kqCkn35M+25Pj/dBELEAFA1wAT/AHoOa1Yj63g91uaniDOcDyh+TzPQvj7/wYni5 > H0cUMhG+1D0Gd+sHW4pQIf6x9nATHte/yfKoaukTCQ0pYVaIpK+QrlfYsf4Z7mqj > SRSFvFsQWIvlpG8roWfL > =tbqq > -END PGP SIGNATURE- Well, I'm sorry for spamming here then but one could easily think that avoiding "bad hardware" should be exactly the requirement for this OS?! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1b3138f0-3c48-4fa0-bd75-0060ba2381a7%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 4.0 Hardware Requirements
On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 9:32:05 AM UTC+2, Andrew David Wong wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 2016-08-30 00:05, Darko Vuković wrote: > > On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 8:54:52 AM UTC+2, Andrew David Wong > > wrote: On 2016-08-29 23:41, Darko Vuković wrote: > >>>> On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 8:26:40 AM UTC+2, Andrew > >>>> David Wong wrote: On 2016-08-29 21:28, Drew White wrote: > >>>>>>> On Saturday, 20 August 2016 04:28:16 UTC+10, Andrew > >>>>>>> David Wong wrote: > >>>>>>>> I don't know enough about the AMD platform to answer > >>>>>>>> definitively, but if I'm interpreting this Twitter > >>>>>>>> exchange correctly, it sounds like you might be > >>>>>>>> right: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/QubesOS/status/756041961203785728 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So what are the actual requirements for Qubes 4? > >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>>> The minimum requirements haven't been officially announced > >>>> yet. (Only the requirements for Qubes Hardware Certification > >>>> have been). > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> If I understood correctly, one peace of the puzzle is Intel > >>>> EPT (Extended Page Tables) enabled CPU's. So any > >>>> laptop/notebook with one of them. > >>>> > >>>>>> http://ark.intel.com/search/advanced?ExtendedPageTables= > >>>>>> true&MarketSegment=MBL > >>>> > >>>> but, what I've managed to find on this topic is that you > >>>> should avoid > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> - CPU with Intel® vPro Technology (so say good buy to: > >>>> http://ark.intel.com/search/advanced?s=t&MarketSegment=MBL&; > >>>> VProTechnology=true) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> and > >>>> > >>>> - Intel wireless cards (use Atheros instead) > >>>> > >>>> There are also three versions of Intel ME (Management > >>>> Engine), Commercial and Consumer. They are both bad but > >>>> consumer version is crippled one (less bad). I'm not sure how > >>>> can someone pick one or the other but it would be nice to > >>>> know. > >>>> > >>>> Potentially deadliest combination (privacy wise) is: CPU > >>>> with vPro Technology+Intel wireless card+Intel ME > >>>> (commercial version) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> It would be nice if someone could confirm(or deny) this and > >>>> add some more information regarding other hardware here. > >>>> > >>>> Thaks > >>>> > > > > This thread is about hardware *requirements* for 4.0, not hardware > > that it would be prudent to avoid for various reasons. > > > > > > Well, I'm sorry for spamming here then but one could easily think > > that avoiding "bad hardware" should be exactly the requirement for > > this OS?! > > > > I'm simply pointing out that your message is not directly relevant to > this thread. There are already lots of other threads on vPRO, Intel > ME, etc. You're free to join those discussions or even start your own > thread, if you like. > > "Bad hardware" is a controversial topic. Not everyone agrees on what > hardware is "bad" or even what exactly "bad" means in this context. > Arguably, there is no hardware currently available that is not "bad." > (Go read Joanna's papers and blog if you're not already convinced of > this.) If we're going to use computers at all right now, we're going > to have to accept hardware that is, to a not insignificant degree, > bad. It's unavoidable (for now). > > Can we, nonetheless, try to minimize the badness? We certainly can, > and that's an admirable pursuit. Are we going to set, as a minimum > requirement for Qubes, the elimination of all badness that can > possibly be eliminated? No, since we realize that the perfect can be > the enemy of the good. This is the same reason we support USB
Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 4.0 Hardware Requirements
> > > > I'm simply pointing out that your message is not directly relevant to > this thread. There are already lots of other threads on vPRO, Intel > ME, etc. You're free to join those discussions or even start your own > thread, if you like. > > "Bad hardware" is a controversial topic. Not everyone agrees on what > hardware is "bad" or even what exactly "bad" means in this context. > Arguably, there is no hardware currently available that is not "bad." > (Go read Joanna's papers and blog if you're not already convinced of > this.) If we're going to use computers at all right now, we're going > to have to accept hardware that is, to a not insignificant degree, > bad. It's unavoidable (for now). > > Can we, nonetheless, try to minimize the badness? We certainly can, > and that's an admirable pursuit. Are we going to set, as a minimum > requirement for Qubes, the elimination of all badness that can > possibly be eliminated? No, since we realize that the perfect can be > the enemy of the good. This is the same reason we support USB > kekyboards, for example. Using a USB keyboard is, frankly, a big > security risk. It would be better (less bad) not to use one. But some > of our users have no choice. If they can't use a USB keyboard, they > can't use Qubes at all. Using Qubes with a USB keyboard is still much > better than not using it at all. (At least, we think so. We leave this > determination up to each user rather than making the decision for > them.) We *could* make PS/2 keyboards a minimum requirement of Qubes, > thereby denying access to these people. Likewise, we *could* make the > absence of your list of undesirable hardware components a minimum > requirement of Qubes, thereby denying access to even more people. In > both cases, however, we believe the result would be worse for our > users, so we're not doing it. > > - -- > Andrew David Wong (Axon) > Community Manager, Qubes OS > https://www.qubes-os.org > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJXxTZcAAoJENtN07w5UDAwV2cP/2FaOcN9O1DV6GZOQFfAgoLd > uEja4/SVbgPTtE83v9UMVsIDFa8TXtmpZP0RyTH6s/wLr1iuCODTzMalSmyAVv+y > taSSU/DluSrKwfEiuCGraBMOvniDPkFXi4QOtOhPDMvHKjkWEjq+zVcKo0OqLiRe > v5I9le92G4GqUJSIb4l0UkcPKmG+AljdS41u6KlOCuqQuqCGYZj+Z5gVaDzS6gwQ > 9o0xArRiv2vP4eMIIQPjtX+x9sYSNasJVZqy+W4xw+Ftj3AJzpe+8p7MBw1lXM0d > Nz9XERTq+jgxNmoineLTepEfz1fnyZRB0jrm3zwHoviEPOgFPWprtsK4cFx52EVc > GTMFsHdxz4tTW/L6HY3fuZQBxHnWgcLR2Mc5amZgWzRF0N5zsXZZUqmcjpAVDPEe > Nqwn/HubLbIEwVwgl4dUfIWe5ku6KukY3MhvRuvuzt4sJOl7x9yj3xOugfgJMox+ > Ngi7jJKyLHjIzq/edi8eRAQSooE+7yJbh9VotGKUr23rTNpufspUyMmQXq5dfDeP > Dv2OIt26mhC1a2qGqTF024cd5zbNBikp6SUt9wQ647pUzXPPY6+5AegeVOd/WTRj > 4IgNtU0xBaWdDPq17+7DlmYrHfAtDczrpgVH88kTjIFgG3SOdFEIlpFDdqMNJwEZ > sTlwt5jBHh9NfloiavAs > =fTH/ > -END PGP SIGNATURE- I agree with you that we're stuck with the hardware as it is... It's still beyond me how it's not relevant to hardware requirements when someone can, for example, easily pick one CPU/Wireless card instead of another when buying laptop/desktop... For non technical person (like me) that is the only hardware requirement I can deal with :)) Anyways, It seemed little rude from your side to dismiss me like that... but no hard feelings, we're on the same side here, right? :) Regards -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/db628bd9-d558-41fa-8be7-1b4b90be55ad%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] HCL - Asus Maximus VII Impact / Core i7-5775C
Hi there, Here is my HCL report (attached). Board> Asus Maximus VII Impact, bios v3003 CPU > Core i7-5775C Graphics > Iris Pro 6200 RAM > 16 GB Ethernet > Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection I218-V WiFi > Broadcom Corporation BCM4352 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter(rev03) (not able to make it work, possible lack of knowledge) SSD > SanDisk SDSSDA12 Rev: 10RL TPM > Device present (not tested) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/5fe6eb55-a3eb-44e1-a8e8-0c0c1556bf41%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Qubes-HCL-ASUS-All_Series-20160830-115437.yml Description: Binary data
[qubes-users] PIA (privateinternetaccess.com) + Qubes OS
There is no way I can make PIA work following official docs, tried 10**100 times, exact steps, no luck... How To make a VPN Gateway in Qubes > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/vpn/ Following the post below I can make it work, it's different than the one above, but it can be started only manually, using command to test the service, every time... OpenVPN Setup, revisited > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/qubes-users/openvpn%7Csort:relevance/qubes-users/-9gR1Va3BnY/pJFTZXp2zzEJ At this point I'm ready to pay for a decent 'sys-vpn' that works out-of-the-box. :) Does anyone know what seems to be the problem? Anyone?! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/b7f1001b-2fc0-425a-a371-507ea7bba06f%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: PIA (privateinternetaccess.com) + Qubes OS
On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 10:25:47 PM UTC+2, 4976c6+5sj...@guerrillamail.com wrote: > I was using PIA with Qubes without any issues. Simply import the OpenVPN > files into the NetworkManager in the sys-net, under the directory > /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections and you are ready to go. > Alternatively you can create a sys-fw and run the openvpn config there, in > case you want to use multiple sys-fw. > > > > OK, I can try couple more times :) What do you mean by "under the directory /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections and you are ready to go"? How, What? Is that different from the " import the OpenVPN files into the NetworkManager"? And, can you explain to me please what's wrong with this method > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/vpn/ Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/f2faddaa-fa39-46f0-9d00-d321f6edb090%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: QubesOS under VMware - I know I know ...
On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 4:31:15 PM UTC+2, p.@.com wrote: > Hi all, > > I am thinking of installing Qubesos on my laptop but before that I would like > to play with it before installation. The only option I know is to install it > under Vmware. I know this solution is not supported but for educational and > learning purposes it would be good to be able to do that. > Does anybody know if this is possible ? I tried to install it under Vmware > but it failed. Any workarounds ? I can even lower the security of QubesOS (if > this is somehow possible) to achieve it - this is just for educational > purposes. > Any help ? > > Best regards > Przemek I have managed to do this once but I wasn't able to repeat it for some reason... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/faa0207e-a285-4dc2-b1bc-86e82ce1b626%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] ASUS ZenBook 3 + Qubes
;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/ad1b784e-4af6-4027-83c3-4e0694749969%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] ASUS ZenBook 3 + Qubes OS
https://www.asus.com/Notebooks/ASUS-ZenBook-3-UX390UA/ ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/b2bee74a-4baa-4271-91f9-270a1ad00924%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
