[qubes-users] Re: Suitability for an application testing scenario
On Mon, 2017-05-22 at 05:48 -0700, Matty South wrote: > > Previously I've used type II VMs like VirtualBox for application > > testing: install application on the base OS, test features > > (including > > GUI features, shell integration and system integration), discard > > changes. Additional steps might include: pause/resume the VM, save > > different states of the VM. > > > > Are Qubes OS VMs suitable for the same purpose? Specifically, is it > > possible to switch from a dom0 view to a VM-only view, rather than > > VM > > windows appearing in dom0? > > > > Regards, > > David > > > > P.S. If this is possible, Qubes OS also seems like a more flexible > > alternative to dual-booting? > > Great question, David. I would say if testing could be done in Xen, > then it could likely be done in Qubes. It's really difficult to mess > with dom0 or how it looks, so I doubt you will have luck switching > views. What guest OS will you mainly use for testing? One option may > be, if you're accustomed to Virtualbox for Windows for example, > setting up a Windows VM how you like it for testing and loading a > guests in there. I can't comment on the performance of Virtualbox > inside of a VM though. Has anyone else done this? Revisiting this (thanks for the input Matty). It seems this would be easiest to achieve with a "Hardware VM domain" (HVM) as outlined here: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/hvm/ The screenshots demonstrate that the HVM desktop runs in its own window. HVMs can be managed via the command line or the Qubes Manager. Note that the Qubes Manager is scheduled for improvements in Qubes 4.0: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2132 It would be interesting to know if it is possible (and a good idea) to install GNOME Boxes on dom0 and access HVMs from there. Or if Qubes Manager is "good enough" for managing full-desktop-GUI VMs. Regards, David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1497263869.8157.3.camel%40gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Desktop shell choices & integration on dom0
On Sun, 2017-05-21 at 07:51 +0200, David Seaward wrote: > Is it possible to change the desktop shell for dom0, for example from > XFCE to GNOME? > > Additionally, I'm used to getting some degree of application/shell > integration: notifications, tray icons, widgets (e.g. a controller > for the music app). Do VM apps integrate with the dom0 shell? Revisiting this after some time, it seems that GNOME is not yet available as a desktop shell and is not being worked on right now: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/1806 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-devel/cberCRs_nFE And it seems that KDE is or was available as an option: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-desktop-linux-kde >From those discussions, it seems that integrating the shell and VM apps is part of the development process for any given shell. Regards, David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1497261094.8157.1.camel%40gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Suitability for an application testing scenario
Hi, Previously I've used type II VMs like VirtualBox for application testing: install application on the base OS, test features (including GUI features, shell integration and system integration), discard changes. Additional steps might include: pause/resume the VM, save different states of the VM. Are Qubes OS VMs suitable for the same purpose? Specifically, is it possible to switch from a dom0 view to a VM-only view, rather than VM windows appearing in dom0? Regards, David P.S. If this is possible, Qubes OS also seems like a more flexible alternative to dual-booting? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1495346566.25719.5.camel%40gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Desktop shell choices & integration on dom0
Hi, Is it possible to change the desktop shell for dom0, for example from XFCE to GNOME? Additionally, I'm used to getting some degree of application/shell integration: notifications, tray icons, widgets (e.g. a controller for the music app). Do VM apps integrate with the dom0 shell? Regards, David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1495345894.25719.2.camel%40gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
