from:"M"


Can I then open a terminal and view the script-file in nano and try to see 
if it installs a package or place data anywhere else to determine if it's 
possible to only install it in a AppVM, or is it possible that it isn't 
written in the installer script that it puts data somewhere else ?

fredag den 13. november 2020 kl. 14.14.33 UTC+1 skrev Effie ML:

> The difference is, if the install script puts data into /home /usr/local 
> or /rw. If it puts data into anywhere else (e.g. if it installs a package) 
> then it can only be in a Template.
> On 11/13/20 2:07 PM, 'M' via qubes-users wrote:
>
> What makes the difference between if an application can and cannot be 
> installed only in a AppVM ?
>
> fredag den 13. november 2020 kl. 13.36.50 UTC+1 skrev Effie ML:
>
>> On 11/13/20 1:05 PM, 'M' via qubes-users wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for your advices.
>>
>> In case you would like to know, here is a description of the application 
>> called "Maple": https://maplesoft.com/products/Maple/ and 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maple
>>
>> Regarding the "Fedora-30 template", if it has ended it's life long time 
>> ago, then why is it still the template version in Qubes R4.0.3 or is it 
>> just the shown name of the template in the Qubes Applicatons menu ?
>>
>> Because Qubes ISOs are offline (the reason they are so big) and are 
>> created manually.
>>
>> There is work on R4.0.4 which has Fedora 32, however it might be a few 
>> days before it gets released
>>
>>
>> Do I understand you correctly "unman", that I can choose to either 
>> install the application in a template or just in a AppVM, and if so how do 
>> I only install it in a AppVM ?
>>
>> It depends on the application. We don't know it.
>>
>> I know if you are using Snap (and maybe appimage or flatpak) you can 
>> install in an AppVM.
>>
>> tirsdag den 10. november 2020 kl. 01.49.01 UTC+1 skrev unman:
>>
>> Advising that you are leaking language, and therefore possibly country.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 09, 2020 at 07:21:25PM +, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: 
>>> > 'M' via qubes-users: 
>>> > > I have received this file from a administrator at my workplace: 
>>> > > "Maple2020.1LinuxX64Installer.run" which I have downloaded to my 
>>> work 
>>> > > domain. 
>>> > > 
>>> > > My question is then: How can I install Maple in a Fedora-30 template 
>>> in 
>>> > > Qubes OS R4.0. ... ? 
>>> > > 
>>> > Don't know Maple specifically, but if it's like most packages, you 
>>> qvm-copy 
>>> > it to the template, then install it there. Be aware it will then be 
>>> > "installed" in all AppVMs based on that template. 
>>> > 
>>>
>>> If you're looking for specific advice on how to install it, the first 
>>> thing to do is to check what *sort* of file it is. You can do this using 
>>> the `file` command. 
>>> But from the "run" suffix, I'm guessing it's an installer script. You 
>>> would need to check that it is executable by running `ls -l`, or make it 
>>> so using `chmod +x` 
>>>
>>> I don't know Maple: you may or may not be able to install it in a 
>>> template. If it is intended to be installed in the home directory, then 
>>> you should run it in /etc/skel in the template and install it there. 
>>> Then it will appear in the /home/user directory in qubes created from 
>>> that template. 
>>> Otherwise install it in the home directory in a qube. You can always 
>>> clone that to other qubes. 
>>>
>>> When you've determined the best approach, please document it here so 
>>> other users can benefit from your experience. 
>>>
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Re: [qubes-users] Questions regarding updating a Fedora-template to a new version integer

"[...] you need to change all AppVMs to the new template."

Is this done by open the "Qube Settings" in the AppVm's and under Template 
choose the new template, or what is needed to connect the old AppVM's to 
the new/updated template ?


fredag den 13. november 2020 kl. 14.08.12 UTC+1 skrev Effie ML:

> On 11/13/20 1:59 PM, 'M' via qubes-users wrote:
>
> I have the following questions regarding updating a Fedora-template to a 
> new version integer:
>
> 1)  Will the files in the desktop, documents, downloads and QubesIncoming 
> folder be deleted when updating it ?
>
> No, this is AppVM data, template updates should not touch AppVM data.
>
> 2)  Will all the AppVM's that is connected with the Fedora-template also 
> be updated and still work after the update ?
>
> No, you need to change all AppVMs to the new template. However, they 
> should work.
>
> 3)  Will the installed applications in the Fedora-template have to be 
> reinstalled afterwards ?
>
> It depends on what update route you go.
>
> There is the (what I find to be easier) way of downloading the package in 
> dom0. But it means that you will end up with a completely clean template.
>
> Or you can do an in-place update, it will preserve all your applications 
> and changes.
>
> 4)  If not, then why not let Qubes Update the Fedora-template to a new 
> version integer when the user accept it to do so, or at least create a 
> script file that a user can execute instead of having to execute all the 
> commands manually ?
>
> I would like to see that too.
>
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Re: [qubes-users] How to install Maple in a Fedora-30 template in Qubes OS R4.0 ?

What makes the difference between if an application can and cannot be 
installed only in a AppVM ?

fredag den 13. november 2020 kl. 13.36.50 UTC+1 skrev Effie ML:

> On 11/13/20 1:05 PM, 'M' via qubes-users wrote:
>
> Thank you for your advices.
>
> In case you would like to know, here is a description of the application 
> called "Maple": https://maplesoft.com/products/Maple/ and 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maple
>
> Regarding the "Fedora-30 template", if it has ended it's life long time 
> ago, then why is it still the template version in Qubes R4.0.3 or is it 
> just the shown name of the template in the Qubes Applicatons menu ?
>
> Because Qubes ISOs are offline (the reason they are so big) and are 
> created manually.
>
> There is work on R4.0.4 which has Fedora 32, however it might be a few 
> days before it gets released
>
>
> Do I understand you correctly "unman", that I can choose to either install 
> the application in a template or just in a AppVM, and if so how do I only 
> install it in a AppVM ?
>
> It depends on the application. We don't know it.
>
> I know if you are using Snap (and maybe appimage or flatpak) you can 
> install in an AppVM.
>
> tirsdag den 10. november 2020 kl. 01.49.01 UTC+1 skrev unman:
>
> Advising that you are leaking language, and therefore possibly country.
>
> On Mon, Nov 09, 2020 at 07:21:25PM +, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: 
>> > 'M' via qubes-users: 
>> > > I have received this file from a administrator at my workplace: 
>> > > "Maple2020.1LinuxX64Installer.run" which I have downloaded to my work 
>> > > domain. 
>> > > 
>> > > My question is then: How can I install Maple in a Fedora-30 template 
>> in 
>> > > Qubes OS R4.0. ... ? 
>> > > 
>> > Don't know Maple specifically, but if it's like most packages, you 
>> qvm-copy 
>> > it to the template, then install it there. Be aware it will then be 
>> > "installed" in all AppVMs based on that template. 
>> > 
>>
>> If you're looking for specific advice on how to install it, the first 
>> thing to do is to check what *sort* of file it is. You can do this using 
>> the `file` command. 
>> But from the "run" suffix, I'm guessing it's an installer script. You 
>> would need to check that it is executable by running `ls -l`, or make it 
>> so using `chmod +x` 
>>
>> I don't know Maple: you may or may not be able to install it in a 
>> template. If it is intended to be installed in the home directory, then 
>> you should run it in /etc/skel in the template and install it there. 
>> Then it will appear in the /home/user directory in qubes created from 
>> that template. 
>> Otherwise install it in the home directory in a qube. You can always 
>> clone that to other qubes. 
>>
>> When you've determined the best approach, please document it here so 
>> other users can benefit from your experience. 
>>
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[qubes-users] Questions regarding updating a Fedora-template to a new version integer

I have the following questions regarding updating a Fedora-template to a 
new version integer:

1)  Will the files in the desktop, documents, downloads and QubesIncoming 
folder be deleted when updating it ?

2)  Will all the AppVM's that is connected with the Fedora-template also be 
updated and still work after the update ?

3)  Will the installed applications in the Fedora-template have to be 
reinstalled afterwards ?

4)  If not, then why not let Qubes Update the Fedora-template to a new 
version integer when the user accept it to do so, or at least create a 
script file that a user can execute instead of having to execute all the 
commands manually ?

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Re: [qubes-users] How to install Maple in a Fedora-30 template in Qubes OS R4.0 ?

Thank you for your advices.

In case you would like to know, here is a description of the application 
called "Maple": https://maplesoft.com/products/Maple/ and 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maple

Regarding the "Fedora-30 template", if it has ended it's life long time 
ago, then why is it still the template version in Qubes R4.0.3 or is it 
just the shown name of the template in the Qubes Applicatons menu ?

Do I understand you correctly "unman", that I can choose to either install 
the application in a template or just in a AppVM, and if so how do I only 
install it in a AppVM ?
tirsdag den 10. november 2020 kl. 01.49.01 UTC+1 skrev unman:

> On Mon, Nov 09, 2020 at 07:21:25PM +, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:
> > 'M' via qubes-users:
> > > I have received this file from a administrator at my workplace:
> > > "Maple2020.1LinuxX64Installer.run" which I have downloaded to my work
> > > domain.
> > > 
> > > My question is then: How can I install Maple in a Fedora-30 template in
> > > Qubes OS R4.0. ... ?
> > > 
> > Don't know Maple specifically, but if it's like most packages, you 
> qvm-copy
> > it to the template, then install it there. Be aware it will then be
> > "installed" in all AppVMs based on that template.
> > 
>
> If you're looking for specific advice on how to install it, the first
> thing to do is to check what *sort* of file it is. You can do this using
> the `file` command.
> But from the "run" suffix, I'm guessing it's an installer script. You
> would need to check that it is executable by running `ls -l`, or make it
> so using `chmod +x`
>
> I don't know Maple: you may or may not be able to install it in a
> template. If it is intended to be installed in the home directory, then
> you should run it in /etc/skel in the template and install it there.
> Then it will appear in the /home/user directory in qubes created from
> that template.
> Otherwise install it in the home directory in a qube. You can always
> clone that to other qubes.
>
> When you've determined the best approach, please document it here so
> other users can benefit from your experience.
>

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Re: [qubes-users] How to get a projector working with Qubes OS R4.0 and a Win10 HVM ?

There is no need for "mounting" the projector to a specific VM like when 
mounting USB-devices.

fredag den 13. november 2020 kl. 12.31.24 UTC+1 skrev M:

> I forgot to write:
>
> You just plug the HDMI-cable into the computer and the projector will only 
> show the left part of the desktop, which makes it possible to only show 
> windows on the left side of the desktop on the projector while the right 
> side of the desktop-space is used to only show windows on the PC. In case 
> you don't like this setting, it is possible to change it under "Display" as 
> mentioned above.
>
> And it doesn't seem to matter if you plug the HDMI-cable into the PC 
> before or after starting the projector and PC or before or after login.
>
> fredag den 13. november 2020 kl. 12.15.33 UTC+1 skrev M:
>
>> Thank, you.
>>
>> Yes, it worked without any problems.
>>
>> In case others would like to know, you can go into the Qubes Applications 
>> menu -> System Tools -> Display. Here you can change what shall be shown on 
>> the projector and the resolution of the screen.
>>
>> It seems that the resolution of the PC-screen changes to match the 
>> resolution of the projector. And afterwards it is necessary to go into 
>> "Display" to change the resolution of the PC-screen back to the resolution 
>> that was used before connecting to a projector. 
>>
>> fredag den 13. november 2020 kl. 04.40.09 UTC+1 skrev 
>> sv...@svensemmler.org:
>>
>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- 
>>> Hash: SHA512 
>>>
>>> On 11/9/20 11:22 AM, 'M' via qubes-users wrote: 
>>> > Shall I just assign the projector the same way when using 
>>> > USB-devices or how does it work with a external HDMI device ? 
>>>
>>> It should just show up in dom0 as another display. In XFCE you can use 
>>> Settings | Display to configure it or if you are comfortable with 
>>> xrandr you can do it from the console too. 
>>>
>>> The advantage of the xrandr route is that you can have convenient bash 
>>> scripts for different projectors (... different resolutions etc) 
>>>
>>> /Sven 
>>>
>>> - -- 
>>> public key: https://www.svensemmler.org/0x8F541FB6.asc 
>>> fingerprint: D7CA F2DB 658D 89BC 08D6 A7AA DA6E 167B 8F54 1FB6 
>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- 
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>>>
>>

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Re: [qubes-users] How to get a projector working with Qubes OS R4.0 and a Win10 HVM ?

I forgot to write:

You just plug the HDMI-cable into the computer and the projector will only 
show the left part of the desktop, which makes it possible to only show 
windows on the left side of the desktop on the projector while the right 
side of the desktop-space is used to only show windows on the PC. In case 
you don't like this setting, it is possible to change it under "Display" as 
mentioned above.

And it doesn't seem to matter if you plug the HDMI-cable into the PC before 
or after starting the projector and PC or before or after login.

fredag den 13. november 2020 kl. 12.15.33 UTC+1 skrev M:

> Thank, you.
>
> Yes, it worked without any problems.
>
> In case others would like to know, you can go into the Qubes Applications 
> menu -> System Tools -> Display. Here you can change what shall be shown on 
> the projector and the resolution of the screen.
>
> It seems that the resolution of the PC-screen changes to match the 
> resolution of the projector. And afterwards it is necessary to go into 
> "Display" to change the resolution of the PC-screen back to the resolution 
> that was used before connecting to a projector. 
>
> fredag den 13. november 2020 kl. 04.40.09 UTC+1 skrev 
> sv...@svensemmler.org:
>
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA512
>>
>> On 11/9/20 11:22 AM, 'M' via qubes-users wrote:
>> > Shall I just assign the projector the same way when using
>> > USB-devices or how does it work with a external HDMI device ?
>>
>> It should just show up in dom0 as another display. In XFCE you can use
>> Settings | Display to configure it or if you are comfortable with
>> xrandr you can do it from the console too.
>>
>> The advantage of the xrandr route is that you can have convenient bash
>> scripts for different projectors (... different resolutions etc)
>>
>> /Sven
>>
>> - -- 
>> public key: https://www.svensemmler.org/0x8F541FB6.asc
>> fingerprint: D7CA F2DB 658D 89BC 08D6 A7AA DA6E 167B 8F54 1FB6
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
>>
>> iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEE18ry22WNibwI1qeq2m4We49UH7YFAl+uAAYACgkQ2m4We49U
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>>
>

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Re: [qubes-users] How to get a projector working with Qubes OS R4.0 and a Win10 HVM ?

Thank, you.

Yes, it worked without any problems.

In case others would like to know, you can go into the Qubes Applications 
menu -> System Tools -> Display. Here you can change what shall be shown on 
the projector and the resolution of the screen.

It seems that the resolution of the PC-screen changes to match the 
resolution of the projector. And afterwards it is necessary to go into 
"Display" to change the resolution of the PC-screen back to the resolution 
that was used before connecting to a projector. 

fredag den 13. november 2020 kl. 04.40.09 UTC+1 skrev sv...@svensemmler.org:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA512
>
> On 11/9/20 11:22 AM, 'M' via qubes-users wrote:
> > Shall I just assign the projector the same way when using
> > USB-devices or how does it work with a external HDMI device ?
>
> It should just show up in dom0 as another display. In XFCE you can use
> Settings | Display to configure it or if you are comfortable with
> xrandr you can do it from the console too.
>
> The advantage of the xrandr route is that you can have convenient bash
> scripts for different projectors (... different resolutions etc)
>
> /Sven
>
> - -- 
> public key: https://www.svensemmler.org/0x8F541FB6.asc
> fingerprint: D7CA F2DB 658D 89BC 08D6 A7AA DA6E 167B 8F54 1FB6
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Re: [qubes-users] How to setup Win10 HVM ?

I think if it's possible to right-click on a file -> "Send to" -> "Copy to 
other VM" and the file gets copied to the chosen VM, then the installed 
"Qubes Windows Tools" seems to work properly.

fredag den 13. november 2020 kl. 11.29.36 UTC+1 skrev Knut von Walter:

> Thank you so much for your precious help! Now with the help of the 
> excellent forum of Qubes OS, link: https://qubes-os.discourse.group/ . I 
> managed to install Windows 10 in a StandaloneVM completely. Including the 
> Qubes Windows Tools.
> Stay healthy & safe.
> Best
> Knut
>
>
> Am 08.11.20 um 23:40 schrieb 'M' via qubes-users:
>
> Now I have found a way to make it work without getting Windows 7 
> downloaded first. And I have updated the procedure above and inserted the 
> updated/edited version below.
>
>
>
> *Updated steps to setup a Win 10 HVM*
>
>
>
> How to setup a Win 10 HVM according to this page: 
> https://github.com/elliotkillick/qvm-create-windows-qube 
> ?
>
> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Felliotkillick%2Fqvm-create-windows-qube=D=1=AFQjCNHygrrCGNRnSzK0GPvO5Iylynm6eA>
>
>
> See below for my detailed description on how to use this method:
>
> 1)  Open your Firefox browser in a VM - for example in the untrusted VM.
>
> 2)  To save the install.sh script file:  Open this page: 
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/elliotkillick/qvm-create-windows-qube/master/install.sh
>  
> and save it as install.sh 
>
> 3)  To copy the file to dom0: Open the dom0 terminal and execute this 
> command:  qvm-run -p --filter-escape-chars --no-color-output untrusted 
> "cat '/home/user/Downloads/install.sh'" > install.sh
>
> 4)  To check that the file is copied to dom0: Execute this command in the 
> dom0 terminal: ls
>
> 5)  To get Qubes OS to execute the script in the "install.sh" file: 
> Execute this command in the dom0 terminal: chmod +x install.sh && 
> ./install.sh
>   If the installation script ends up in a loop where the pc is trying 
> to download Windows 7 but can't, then close the dom0 terminal, open a new 
> one and follow these steps (they are the same as the 4 last steps in the 
> script inside the "install.sh" file):
>
>  5a)  Execute this command in the dom0 terminal: qvm-prefs 
> windows-mgmt netvm
>
>  5b)  To download qubes-windows-tools (for easy copy and moving 
> fiiles to and from the Win10 HVM, etc.), execute this command in the dom0 
> terminal: sudo qubes-dom0-update -y qubes-windows-tools
>
>  5c)  To copy "qvm-create-windows-qube.sh" to dom0, execute this 
> command in the dom0 terminal: qvm-run -p --filter-escape-chars 
> --no-color-output windows-mgmt "cat 
> '/home/user//Documents/qvm-create-windows-qube/qvm-create-windows-qube.sh' 
> " > qvm-create-windows-qube.sh
>
>  5d)  To make the file able to be executed, execute this command in 
> the dom0 terminal: chmod +x qvm-create-windows-qube.sh
>
> 6)  Download the version of Windows 10 you want to use to the 
> "windows-mgmt" VM.
>  You can execute the script in the file "download-windows.sh , but it 
> might not work - I couldn't make it work. In that case, do the following: 
>
>  6a)  Open the “Qube Settings” for the domain “windows-mgmt”. Under 
> “Network”, choose the “default” one and click on “Apply”. 
>
>  6b)  Open the domains Firefox browser and search the web for “how to 
> download windows 10”. 
> One of the first results is a link to a Microsoft webpage 
> from which it is possible to download the file in the local language. 
> The file gets downloaded to the download folder in the domain. 
>
>  6c)  Open the “Qube Settings” for the domain “windows-mgmt”. Under 
> “Network”, choose “(none)” and click on “Apply”. 
>
>  6d)  Move or copy the downloaded Win10 ISO-file to this destination: 
> /Documents/qvm-create-windows-qube/windows-media/isos 
>
>  6e)  Open the terminal in dom0 and execute the following script 
> (remember to write the name of the ISO-file you downloaded in step 6b 
> instead of “filename”): ./qvm-create-windows-qube.sh -n sys-whonix -oyw 
> -i filename.iso -a win10x64-pro.xml Win10 
> Info: "Win10" will be the name of the domain.
> Do NOT close the terminal before it says the installation was 
> complete (successfully) !  Let the terminal do the job, it restarts the 
> qube and so on when it is necessary. 
>
> 7)  When you get into Windows there might appear three message boxes. One 
> saying that the pc has to be restarted. A second one saying that drive D 
> has to be formatt

[qubes-users] How to get a projector working with Qubes OS R4.0 and a Win10 HVM ?

2020-11-09 Thread 'M' via qubes-users

I would like to be certain that I'm able to get a projector working with 
Qubes OS R4.0 and a Win10 HVM.

I'm going to connect the projector through a HDMI cable.

What shall I do to get the projector working with Qubes OS R4.0 and a Win10 
HVM ?

Shall I just assign the projector the same way when using USB-divices or 
how does it work with a external HDMI device ? 

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[qubes-users] How to install Maple in a Fedora-30 template in Qubes OS R4.0 ?

2020-11-09 Thread 'M' via qubes-users

I have received this file from a administrator at my workplace: 
"Maple2020.1LinuxX64Installer.run" which I have downloaded to my work 
domain.

My question is then: How can I install Maple in a Fedora-30 template in 
Qubes OS R4.0. ... ?

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Re: [qubes-users] Suddenly I can't get internet access from within one of my Win 10 HVM's but I can from another one

2020-11-08 Thread 'M' via qubes-users

I don't know why. But it suddenly worked again the next time I started the 
pc and opened the Win 10 HVM.

I saw also afterwards that although Windows 10 show that there isn't any 
internet connection from within the Win 10 HVM it may not be so. So the 
connection-icon in the Windows 10 start-menu isn't totally trustworthy.

tirsdag den 27. oktober 2020 kl. 20.15.57 UTC+1 skrev awokd:

> 'M' via qubes-users:
> > 
> > Suddenly I can't get internet access from within one of my Win 10 HVM's, 
> > but I can from another one.
> > 
> > I have compared the internet settings under "Qube Settings". And it says 
> > sys-whonix in both HVM's.
> > 
> > What can be the reason for not being able to get internet access from 
> > within one of my Win 10 HVM's... ?
> > 
> > I have installed Win 10 by using this method: 
> > https://groups.google.com/g/qubes-users/c/78DgmWxZf80/m/L8cJA2BUAwAJ
> > 
> Wouldn't have anything to do with your router since other connections
> work. Double check your problem HVM is getting an IP address?
>
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[qubes-users] System76 Alder WS: no GUI output after leaving text mode

2020-10-25 Thread Demi M. Obenour

This may be due to driver problems.  Is there a workaround?

Thank you,

Demi

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Re: [qubes-users] Troubleshooting Installation of Windows 10 in Qubes OS

Try to follow my guide in my last post here: 
https://groups.google.com/g/qubes-users/c/78DgmWxZf80

mandag den 5. oktober 2020 kl. 16.04.31 UTC+2 skrev awokd:

> Qubes:
> > On 10/5/20 10:21 AM, Knut von Walter wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> at the moment I am trying to install Windows 10 following this
> >> instruction, link: _https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/windows-vm/_. However
> >> Windows is not booting. After clicking on ”Boot from CDROM”. I get the
> >> following error-message:
> >>
> >> Qube-Status: windows 10: Domain windows-10 has failed to start: Cannot
> >> connect to qrexec agent for 60 seconds, see
> >> /var/log/xen/console/guest-windows-10.log for details.
> >>
> >> Has anyone an idea how to solve this? All help is appreciated.
> >>
> >> Thank you.
> >>
> >> Best Knut von Walter
> >>
> >>  
> > How much memory do you have assigned to the VM?
> > 
> Also recommend using
> https://github.com/elliotkillick/qvm-create-windows-qube if you aren't,
> just pay attention to the Windows 10 note. There's a mandatory manual
> step at the end.
>
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[qubes-users] Re: Troubleshooting Installation of Windows 10 in Qubes OS Version 2

Try to follow my guide in my last post here: 
https://groups.google.com/g/qubes-users/c/78DgmWxZf80

mandag den 12. oktober 2020 kl. 11.59.58 UTC+2 skrev Knut von Walter:

> Hi,
> I have read the documentation on this page,link: 
> https://github.com/deeplow/qubes-doc/blob/gweck/patch-1/external/os-guides/windows/windows-vm.md
>  
> . However I could not get more detailed instructions on how to set up a 
> Windows 10 HVM standalone VM. Regarding my system I figured out, how to 
> read the log-file of /var/log/xen/console/guest-windows-10.log. It gave me 
> the error message: ” domain dead cannot connect to qrexec agent: No such 
> file or directory ” I hope this can help somebody. In order that I can 
> setup Windows 10 within Qubes OS.
> Thank you.
> Best Knut von Walter 
>
>
>
>

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[qubes-users] Re: Suddenly I can't get internet access from within one of my Win 10 HVM's but I can from another one

I have also tried to restart both the router and the Win 10 HVM and start 
the Win 10 -HVM after the router is connected to the internet with the same 
result.

When I use my other Win 10 HVM and start it after my router is connected to 
the internet, it show internet access already on the Win 10 logon page and 
when I login I have no problems getting on the internet.

onsdag den 14. oktober 2020 kl. 14.03.05 UTC+2 skrev M:

>
> Suddenly I can't get internet access from within one of my Win 10 HVM's, 
> but I can from another one.
>
> I have compared the internet settings under "Qube Settings". And it says 
> sys-whonix in both HVM's.
>
> What can be the reason for not being able to get internet access from 
> within one of my Win 10 HVM's... ?
>
> I have installed Win 10 by using this method: 
> https://groups.google.com/g/qubes-users/c/78DgmWxZf80/m/L8cJA2BUAwAJ
>

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[qubes-users] Suddenly I can't get internet access from within one of my Win 10 HVM's but I can from another one


Suddenly I can't get internet access from within one of my Win 10 HVM's, 
but I can from another one.

I have compared the internet settings under "Qube Settings". And it says 
sys-whonix in both HVM's.

What can be the reason for not being able to get internet access from 
within one of my Win 10 HVM's... ?

I have installed Win 10 by using this method: 
https://groups.google.com/g/qubes-users/c/78DgmWxZf80/m/L8cJA2BUAwAJ

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[qubes-users] How to burn directory's to an optical disc in Qubes OS 4.0.3 by using an application ?

2020-10-12 Thread 'M' via qubes-users

How to burn directory's to an optical disc in Qubes OS 4.0.3 by using an 
application ?

Which application is recommended and how to install it ?

I have read this: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/optical-discs/

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[qubes-users] Installing QubesOS on a System76 with Coreboot

2020-10-04 Thread Demi M. Obenour

Has anyone had success installing QubesOS on a System76 laptop that
uses Coreboot?

Thank you,

Demi Obenour

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[qubes-users] Has anyone had a qube compromised?

2020-09-06 Thread Demi M. Obenour

In all of my time using QubesOS, I have never had reason to believe
that a qube was compromised.  Has anyone here had a qube compromised?

Sincerely,

Demi

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Re: [qubes-users] Fresh Install of Qubes 4.0.3 - No Wi-fi on sys-net with Intel Wireless-AC 9462 Card

2020-09-05 Thread Ivan M Lugo

Hi Jarrah,

Many thanks for the very informative and helpful responses. Also, apologies 
for my late reply.. I had my hands full for a while learning enough about 
the Linux and Qubes to understand what was going on in those posts you 
referred me to 
(https://groups.google.com/g/qubes-users/c/_VCVM9AdhEM/m/vE62h6-CBAAJ).

This was exacerbated by the fact that I was unable to attach the USB WLAN 
adapter to the sys-net vm. Since I lacked the skill to create one from 
scratch, I had to reinstall Qubes OS with the option to combine USB and 
networking in sys-net. This allowed me to gain internet access and proceed 
with the instructions. 

However, and further adding to my learning curve, the qubesbuilder part of 
the instructions did not work for me. I was able to trace this to the 
following causes:

   - Missing the perl-open package during 'sudo dnf install' 

   1. this caused " git tag -v 'git describe' " to fail after the 'git 
  clone' 
  2. " git tag -v 'git describe' " succeeded once I executed 'sudo dnf 
  install perl-open' and repeated 'git clone'

   - 'git clone https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-builder.git' doesn't 
   create qubes-src (and possibly other) required folder(s)

   1. had to run 'make install-deps' after " git tag -v 'git describe' "and 
  perform steps 5 thru 7 from 
  https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/building-archlinux-template/
 1. did the 'cp' and 'sed -i' commands on .conf after step 5 and 
 before step 6
 2. not actually sure if step 7 was necessary at all
 3. this resulted in all the qubes-builder components needed to 
 'make linux-kernel'

with those modifications from above I was able to follow through the 
instructions and load the patched 5.6.16-1 kernel. I can confirm this works 
exactly as described in the post. Even have the same issue with the 
unusable sys-net windows (displaying an unreadable dotted pattern)

with that out of the way, I plan to venture into creating individual 
disposableVM templates for sys-usb and sys-net and sys-firewall from a 
minimal template. 

Thank you again for all your great help!
Ivan 

On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 12:39:28 AM UTC+2 Jarrah wrote:

> > Hi All,
>
> Hi,
>
> > As a complete novice who has never even touched Linux before, I read 
> > through the introductory documentation and finally through the install 
> > guide. Then I performed a fresh install of Qubes 4.0.3 on a an ASUS 
> ZenBook 
> > Flip 15 UX562FA directly over Win10. Everything went well during the 
> > installation. Only suspects were:
> >
> > 1. installer claimed the SSD was full and that space needed to be 
> > reclaimed
> > 1. Reclaimable space was the Win10 OS partition, the Win10 Recovery 
> > Partition and the UEFI Partition
> > 2. I deleted only the OS and the Recovery partitions while leaving 
> > the UEFI partition intact (with fears that if deleted I would mess up 
> the 
> > bootloader) 
>
> Qubes would have replaced the UEFI partition had you done this. But it
> seems everything to this point is working fine.
>
> > 1. After install, I rebooted
> > 2. I get the Failed to Load Kernel error during the boot sequence
> > 3. Though that threw me off, boot sequence continued and asked for SSD 
> > password (no GUI just the terminal).
> > 4. Then proceeded to enter the user password and went into qubes OS
> > 5. Noticed there NetworkManager Applet displays red indicating No 
> > Network Devices Available
>
> In Qubes, these icons are coloured to the VM they come from. Sys-net's
> icons will always be red. But there is a small x in the corner when they
> are not connected.You should still be able to left click the icon to set
> up WiFi. If that doesn't work, right click and ensure both networking
> and WiFi are enabled.
>
> > 1. Not sure if the applet is looking for an Ethernet card as the laptop 
> > does not have an ethernet card installed. It only has the Wireless card.
> > 2. Also not sure this is the issue.
> > 
> > The wireless card is an Intel Wireless-AC 9462 which is supported in 
> > Kernels 4.14+
> Have a look at https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/5615 and
> the recent mail to this list under the subject "[qubes-users] X1 Carbon
> Gen 8". Other people are having (now somewhat worked around) issues with
> this card.
> >
> > With my very limited troubleshooting abilities I have managed to 
> confirmed 
> > the following:
> >
> > 1. sys-net has the Network Controller under Qube Settings > Devices
> > 1. qvm-pci command in dom0 also shows the device being used by sys-net
> > 2. lspci -v command in sys-net lists the wireless card with all its 
> > information

[qubes-users] Re: How to update a program in a standalone (Debian 10) qube/template ?

2020-08-27 Thread 'M' via qubes-users

I have found out.

Its easy.

1)  Click on Open Qube Manager.

2)  Right-click on the standalone qube/template that you would like to 
update.
  Now the pc will look for updates on the web.

3)  Follow the instructions in the window.
  By pressing Y the updates will be downloaded and installed - the time 
for this is shown in the window.
  By pressing ENTER after the installation the standalone qube gets 
shut down and then the standalone qube is updated and ready to use.


torsdag den 27. august 2020 kl. 09.09.05 UTC+2 skrev M:

> I have installed a program in a standalone Debian 10 template and it seems 
> it doesn't get updated automatic.
>
> How to update a program in a standalone (Debian 10) qube/template ?
>

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[qubes-users] How to update a program in a standalone (Debian 10) qube/template ?

2020-08-27 Thread 'M' via qubes-users

I have installed a program in a standalone Debian 10 template and it seems 
it doesn't get updated automatic.

How to update a program in a standalone (Debian 10) qube/template ?

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[qubes-users] Fresh Install of Qubes 4.0.3 - No Wi-fi on sys-net with Intel Wireless-AC 9462 Card

2020-08-20 Thread Ivan M Lugo

Hi All,

As a complete novice who has never even touched Linux before, I read
through the introductory documentation and finally through the install
guide. Then I performed a fresh install of Qubes 4.0.3 on a an ASUS ZenBook
Flip 15 UX562FA directly over Win10. Everything went well during the
installation. Only suspects were:

1. installer claimed the SSD was full and that space needed to be
reclaimed
1. Reclaimable space was the Win10 OS partition, the Win10 Recovery
Partition and the UEFI Partition
2. I deleted only the OS and the Recovery partitions while leaving
the UEFI partition intact (with fears that if deleted I would mess up the
bootloader)

1. After install, I rebooted
2. I get the Failed to Load Kernel error during the boot sequence
3. Though that threw me off, boot sequence continued and asked for SSD
password (no GUI just the terminal).
4. Then proceeded to enter the user password and went into qubes OS
5. Noticed there NetworkManager Applet displays red indicating No
Network Devices Available

1. Not sure if the applet is looking for an Ethernet card as the laptop
does not have an ethernet card installed. It only has the Wireless card.
2. Also not sure this is the issue.

The wireless card is an Intel Wireless-AC 9462 which is supported in
Kernels 4.14+

With my very limited troubleshooting abilities I have managed to confirmed
the following:

1. sys-net has the Network Controller under Qube Settings > Devices
1. qvm-pci command in dom0 also shows the device being used by sys-net
2. lspci -v command in sys-net lists the wireless card with all its
information
1. except for "capabilities" which shows "" - not sure
if this is a problem.
3. I can also confirm that the Fedora 30 TemplateVM has the same
iwlwifi-9000-pu-b0-jf-34.ucode firmware file in lib/firmware/from the Intel
Website's iwlwifi-9000-pu-b0-jf-34.618819.0.tgz firmware package
1. The other two file from that package LICENSE.iwlwifi-9000.ucode
and README.iwlwifi-9000.ucode files are not present in /lib/firmware/. (I
tried to copy them from QubesIncoming/sys-usb into the lib/firmware/
using
the GUI but got an access denied error) - not sure if this is a problem.

I have tried the following:

1. Tried to go to Qubes Manager > sys-net > settings to check on wifi
networks but settings dialog does not open
2. Cannot ping www.google.com or 8.8.8.8 from sys-net
3. I also installed the whonix option
1. Switching the sys-net template to whonix did not work
4. Switching sys-net to the Debian template does not work
1. haven't downloaded or installed any files post install on that
template

I was really hoping it was a firmware issue with the wireless card but it
does not seem to be the case, and so I am pretty clueless as to what else
it could be.

If you see an issue with my install procedure or any red flags from my
observations, or if you have any idea of how to get wifi going it would be
greatly appreciated.

I love the idea of using Qubes as my main driver and learning about
configuring it and all. But unfortunately without wifi it's pretty useless

thanks!
Ivan M

[qubes-users] Re: Qubes installer freezes, than crashes at set-up menu

2020-07-11 Thread mateusz . m . kujawski

Possible help:

https://github.com/anon8675309/qubes-doc/blob/update_nvidia_driver_docs/external/troubleshooting/install-nvidia-driver.md
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/4879
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/5383

general issues listing with "install" in title:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+install+in%3Atitle

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[qubes-users] How to view a PDF-file in a DisposableVM ?

2020-04-07 Thread 'M' via qubes-users

How to view a PDF-file in a DisposableVM ?

I haven't used a DisposableVM before.

I have tried to right-click on the PDF-file in a AppVM and choose "View in 
DisposableVM" but nothing happens.

And I have tried to find out how to make it work both by searching in here 
and by reading here: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/disposablevm/

Shall I in Qubes 4.0.3 set a DisposableVM as default first or is it already 
done ?

Shall I create a AppVM based on the preinstalled disposable fedora-30-dvm, 
and set that as default ?

Or what shall I do to be able to view a PDF-file in a DisposableVM in the 
most secure way ?

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[qubes-users] Re: Win10 VM won't start properly after installing qubes windows tools

2020-04-06 Thread 'M' via qubes-users

mandag den 6. april 2020 kl. 01.13.29 UTC+2 skrev Guerlan:
>
> After installing qubes-windows-tools on a Windows 10 VM, I used it for a 
> while, everything worked. Now when I go to launch it again, instead of 
> having simply "qubes settings" and "start" like before, I have all the 
> windows apps to start. If I click on one of them, the VM starts but does 
> not show any screen, it just shows up as started. There's also not a 
> "start" option anymore
>
>
> I opened a bug and one person related having the same problem
>
>
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/5739
>
>
> anyone knows how to solve it?
>


If the Windows GUI-window doesn't show up, you can try execute the 
following command in the dom0 terminal: qvm-features  gui 1 .
Write the name of the domain (for example "Win10"), instead of 
  

I don't know about the rest.

Else you may try to setup the Win10 HVM the same way I have done - see my 
post here:  
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/qubes-users/78DgmWxZf80/L8cJA2BUAwAJ
That way seems to work fine.

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[qubes-users] Is a StandaloneVM equally secure as a AppVM that is created on it's own TemplateVM, and what is the difference between a StandaloneVM and a AppVM ?

Is a StandaloneVM equally secure as a AppVM that is created on it's own 
TemplateVM ?

What is the "practical" difference between a StandaloneVM and a AppVM, and 
when is it recommended to use a StandaloneVM instead of a AppVM ?

I have read this page: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/standalone-and-hvm/

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Re: [qubes-users] How to setup Win10 HVM ?

torsdag den 26. marts 2020 kl. 13.07.40 UTC+1 skrev M:
>
> søndag den 22. marts 2020 kl. 23.32.30 UTC+1 skrev Francesco:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 8:15 AM 'M' via qubes-users <
>> qubes...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> How to setup a Win 10 HVM according to this page: 
>>> https://github.com/elliotkillick/qvm-create-windows-qube 
>>> ?
>>>
>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Felliotkillick%2Fqvm-create-windows-qube=D=1=AFQjCNHygrrCGNRnSzK0GPvO5Iylynm6eA>
>>>
>>>
>>> See below for my detailed description on how to use this method:
>>>
>>> 1)  Open your Firefox browser in a VM - for example in the untrusted VM.
>>>
>>> 2)  To save the install.sh script file:  Open this page: 
>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/elliotkillick/qvm-create-windows-qube/master/install.sh
>>>  
>>> and save it as install.sh 
>>>
>>> 3)  To copy the file to dom0: Open the dom0 terminal and execute this 
>>> command:  qvm-run -p --filter-escape-chars --no-color-output untrusted 
>>> "cat '/home/user/Downloads/install.sh'" > install.sh
>>>
>>> 4)  To check that the file is copied to dom0: Execute this command in 
>>> the dom0 terminal: ls
>>>
>>> 5)  To get Qubes OS to execute the script in the "install.sh" file: 
>>> Execute this command in the dom0 terminal: chmod +x install.sh && 
>>> ./install.sh
>>>
>>> 6)  Download the version of Windows 10 you want to use to the 
>>> "windows-mgmt" VM.
>>>  You can execute the script in the file "download-windows.sh , but 
>>> it might not work - I couldn't make it work. In that case, do the 
>>> following: 
>>>
>>>  6a)  Open the “Qube Settings” for the domain “windows-mgmt”. Under 
>>> “Network”, choose the “default” one and click on “Apply”. 
>>>
>>>  6b)  Open the domains Firefox browser and search the web for “how 
>>> to download windows 10”. 
>>> One of the first results is a link to a Microsoft webpage 
>>> from which it is possible to download the file in the local language. 
>>> The file gets downloaded to the download folder in the 
>>> domain. 
>>>
>>>  6c)  Open the “Qube Settings” for the domain “windows-mgmt”. Under 
>>> “Network”, choose “(none)” and click on “Apply”. 
>>>
>>>  6d)  Move or copy the downloaded Win10 ISO-file to this 
>>> destination: /Documents/qvm-create-windows-qube/windows-media/isos 
>>>
>>>  6e)  Open the terminal in dom0 and execute the following script 
>>> (remember to write the name of the ISO-file you downloaded in step 6b 
>>> instead of “filename”): ./qvm-create-windows-qube.sh -n sys-whonix -oyw 
>>> -i filename.iso -a win10x64-pro.xml Win10 
>>> Info: "Win10" will be the name of the domain.
>>> Do not close the terminal before it says the installation 
>>> was complete (successfully) !  Let the terminal do the job, it restarts the 
>>> qube and so on when it is necessary. 
>>>
>>> 7)  When you get into Windows there might appear three message boxes. 
>>> One saying that the pc has to be restarted. A second one saying that drive 
>>> D has to be formatted. And the third one saying something about a private 
>>> drive. Just click on "OK". Then Windows will close immediately and restart. 
>>> Afterwards the terminal should write that the installation was completed 
>>> successfully.
>>>  When Windows start up again you probably do not have a functioning 
>>> internet connection.
>>>
>>>
>> When I start Windows again I get a green point on the state column of 
>> Qubes Manager, which is encouraging, but no GUI whatsoever appears, even if 
>> the Windows screen appeared and restarted many times during the 
>> installation process.
>>
>  
>
>
> You\re right, I forgot to mention that:
>
> After the installation is complete and the Windows 10 HVM is shut down, 
> you have to execute the following command in the dom0 terminal to view the 
> Windows GUI-window again: qvm-features  gui 1
>
> Write the name of the domain (for example “anon-win10”), instead of 
>  
> .
>



*Updated steps to setup a Win 10 HVM*


How to setup a Win 10 HVM according to this page: 
https://github.com/elliotkillick/qvm-create-windows-qube 
?
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[qubes-users] Re: Have anyone succeeded installing Audiophile Linux in Qubes OS 4.0.3 in a 64-bit version, and if so how ?

fredag den 27. marts 2020 kl. 19.00.50 UTC+1 skrev Yethal:
>
> 1. Don't. APLinux on its own is deeply user unfriendly and running it 
> under Qubes makes it even worse. Moreover any performance increase gained 
> by running minimal distro are lost when you add the virtualization layer 
> underneath.
> 2. If you really want to run an audio-oriented distro in Qubes try running 
> Volumio in HVM.
>
> W dniu czwartek, 26 marca 2020 13:12:41 UTC+1 użytkownik M napisał:
>>
>> Have anyone succeeded installing Audiophile Linux in Qubes OS 4.0.3 in a 
>> 64-bit version, and if so how ?
>>
>> Link: https://www.ap-linux.com/
>>
>

Thanks for your advice.

It sounds like you would recommend something else instead of running an 
audio-oriented distro in Qubes OS... May I ask, what you would recommend 
instead ?

I ask because, I first tried to install different multimedia file managers, 
but those I have found either is quite old and is not maintained, or is 
being maintained but isn't able to rip CD's in WAVE-format (meaning in a 
totally uncompressed format), but only in MP3 or FLAC-format, etc. So I 
would just like to find a multimedia file manager with a nice and easy 
layout, where it is possible to create smart playlist almost like in iTunes 
and which is able to rip CD's in a totally uncompressed format and play the 
audio-files in the same uncompressed format by using an external DAC.

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Re: [qubes-users] Building a new pc for running Qubes OS

tirsdag den 31. marts 2020 kl. 20.38.06 UTC+2 skrev Stumpy:
>
> On 2019-11-01 14:57, M wrote: 
> > I’m thinking about building a new pc for running Qubes OS with the 
> following specifications: 
> > 
> > 1)  Motherboard:  ASRock X570 Pro4 
> > 2)  CPU:  AMD Ryzen 3 3200G with onboard graphic (until they release one 
> for PCIe 4.0 with onboard graphic) 
> > 3)  SSD:  AORUS 
> > 
> > Does anyone know about if this will result in any problems in relation 
> to running Qubes OS besides “the ordinary challenges”, and if so which 
> problems ? 
> > 
> Did you happen to get any responses to this? Or if you already built it 
> how is it working? (I am starting to think about putting a box together 
> so am trying to take notes from others posts) 
>
 

There doesn't seem to be answer to the question here, so I'll answer it.

The mentioned setup doesn't seem to work with Qubes OS 4.0.3. Probably 
because the setup needs a newer kernel than the 4.0.3 version of Qubes OS 
comes with. But it might work with the new 4.1 version of Qubes, but that 
version isn't stable yet. So to use the following setup, you will have to 
try the 4.1 version that is under development or wait for the stable 
version of it to be released before you install Qubes OS on a pc with this 
setup.

1)  Motherboard:  ASRock X570 Pro4 
2)  CPU:  AMD Ryzen 3 3200G with onboard graphic (until they release one 
for PCIe 4.0 with onboard graphic) 


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[qubes-users] Have anyone succeeded installing Audiophile Linux in Qubes OS 4.0.3 in a 64-bit version, and if so how ?

2020-03-26 Thread 'M' via qubes-users

Have anyone succeeded installing Audiophile Linux in Qubes OS 4.0.3 in a 
64-bit version, and if so how ?

Link: https://www.ap-linux.com/

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Re: [qubes-users] How to setup Win10 HVM ?

2020-03-26 Thread 'M' via qubes-users

søndag den 22. marts 2020 kl. 23.32.30 UTC+1 skrev Francesco:
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 8:15 AM 'M' via qubes-users <
> qubes...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> How to setup a Win 10 HVM according to this page: 
>> https://github.com/elliotkillick/qvm-create-windows-qube 
>> ?
>>
>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Felliotkillick%2Fqvm-create-windows-qube=D=1=AFQjCNHygrrCGNRnSzK0GPvO5Iylynm6eA>
>>
>>
>> See below for my detailed description on how to use this method:
>>
>> 1)  Open your Firefox browser in a VM - for example in the untrusted VM.
>>
>> 2)  To save the install.sh script file:  Open this page: 
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/elliotkillick/qvm-create-windows-qube/master/install.sh
>>  
>> and save it as install.sh 
>>
>> 3)  To copy the file to dom0: Open the dom0 terminal and execute this 
>> command:  qvm-run -p --filter-escape-chars --no-color-output untrusted 
>> "cat '/home/user/Downloads/install.sh'" > install.sh
>>
>> 4)  To check that the file is copied to dom0: Execute this command in the 
>> dom0 terminal: ls
>>
>> 5)  To get Qubes OS to execute the script in the "install.sh" file: 
>> Execute this command in the dom0 terminal: chmod +x install.sh && 
>> ./install.sh
>>
>> 6)  Download the version of Windows 10 you want to use to the 
>> "windows-mgmt" VM.
>>  You can execute the script in the file "download-windows.sh , but it 
>> might not work - I couldn't make it work. In that case, do the following: 
>>
>>  6a)  Open the “Qube Settings” for the domain “windows-mgmt”. Under 
>> “Network”, choose the “default” one and click on “Apply”. 
>>
>>  6b)  Open the domains Firefox browser and search the web for “how to 
>> download windows 10”. 
>> One of the first results is a link to a Microsoft webpage 
>> from which it is possible to download the file in the local language. 
>> The file gets downloaded to the download folder in the 
>> domain. 
>>
>>  6c)  Open the “Qube Settings” for the domain “windows-mgmt”. Under 
>> “Network”, choose “(none)” and click on “Apply”. 
>>
>>  6d)  Move or copy the downloaded Win10 ISO-file to this destination: 
>> /Documents/qvm-create-windows-qube/windows-media/isos 
>>
>>  6e)  Open the terminal in dom0 and execute the following script 
>> (remember to write the name of the ISO-file you downloaded in step 6b 
>> instead of “filename”): ./qvm-create-windows-qube.sh -n sys-whonix -oyw 
>> -i filename.iso -a win10x64-pro.xml Win10 
>> Info: "Win10" will be the name of the domain.
>> Do not close the terminal before it says the installation was 
>> complete (successfully) !  Let the terminal do the job, it restarts the 
>> qube and so on when it is necessary. 
>>
>> 7)  When you get into Windows there might appear three message boxes. One 
>> saying that the pc has to be restarted. A second one saying that drive D 
>> has to be formatted. And the third one saying something about a private 
>> drive. Just click on "OK". Then Windows will close immediately and restart. 
>> Afterwards the terminal should write that the installation was completed 
>> successfully.
>>  When Windows start up again you probably do not have a functioning 
>> internet connection.
>>
>>
> When I start Windows again I get a green point on the state column of 
> Qubes Manager, which is encouraging, but no GUI whatsoever appears, even if 
> the Windows screen appeared and restarted many times during the 
> installation process.
>
 


You\re right, I forgot to mention that:

After the installation is complete and the Windows 10 HVM is shut down, you 
have to execute the following command in the dom0 terminal to view the 
Windows GUI-window again: qvm-features  gui 1

Write the name of the domain (for example “anon-win10”), instead of 
 
.

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[qubes-users] How to change the theme color in a Debian template ?

2020-03-20 Thread 'M' via qubes-users

How to change the theme color in a Debian template ? 

By theme color I mean the colors in windows and menus.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 and read files from within its applications ?

2020-03-20 Thread 'M' via qubes-users

fredag den 20. marts 2020 kl. 02.38.47 UTC+1 skrev Sven Semmler:
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 03:12:04PM -0700, 'M' via qubes-users wrote: 
> > 1)  Is there a more secure way to get a .deb file downloaded from a 
> > web-page/server and get it into a template VM than the method I have 
> > described above under "How to install a .deb file in the multimedia 
> > template VM ?", and if so how ? 
>
> Yes. A lot more secure and a lot more easy. You should go a bit easy on 
> the tutorial style posts until you have figured this out for yourself. I 
> mean this in the best possible way: giving back to the community is 
> what's it all about ... but at the moment you might harm more then help. 
>
> To your question: Just download the .deb file right there in your 
> broweser and then open the folder that contains the Downloads. Right 
> click on the .deb file and "Copy to other AppVM..." and select the 
> TemplateVM where you want to install. 
>
> In that TemplateVM you will then find the .deb file in the 
> "QubesIncoming" folder in your home directory. This is one of the very 
> core features of Qubes together with the Clipboard: the ability to share 
> data easy, fast and securely between VMs/Qubes. 
>
> > 2)  When installing new applications or replacing an application in a 
> > template, is it then necessary to delete the VM's that is based on this 
> > template to get the changes implemented in the AppVM's, or can they be 
> > implemented in a smarter way ? 
>
> Not at all. As soon as you shutdown the TemplateVM the changes are on 
> disk. Then shutdown and restart the AppVM and you'll have the new 
> version. 
>
> You should probably read this carefully: 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/#advanced 
>
> /Sven 
>
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>
>

Thank you so much for your answers !

Okay, I have thought of the "Copy To Other AppVM". But sadly I didn't try 
it. I stopped when I reached "AppVM", as I thought it wouldn't work for 
template VM's.

You're right, I should write my notes on the PC to begin with and first 
publish them after I get it up and running as intended - I was to happy 
about finally gone so far and would like to help others who would like to 
be able to do the same, as soon as possible as I have wasted much time 
trying to find out how to get to this step.

I have found another multimedia manager called "Exaile", and I have 
downloaded it (from here: https://www.exaile.org/ ) and installed it. But 
when I click on its shortcut in the "Qube Menu", it doesn't start. On the 
front page it says it's for "GTK+".

Is it possible to run "GTK+" applications in a Debian 10 (or a Fedora 30) 
template in Qubes OS 4.0.3 immediately, or do I have to install a package 
to run it and if so which one ?
I have tried to search the web for an answer, and also in here. But I 
haven't found one.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 and read files from within its applications ?

2020-03-19 Thread 'M' via qubes-users

torsdag den 19. marts 2020 kl. 17.26.29 UTC+1 skrev Sven Semmler:
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 02:18:55AM -0700, 'M' via qubes-users wrote: 
> > Ok, I'll try to make a Fedora multimedia template and see how that 
> works... 
> > 
> > According to the following webpage, the advice is to clone a 
> preinstalled 
> > template: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multimedia/ 
> > 
> > 1)  Can I just clone the fedora-30 template and set networking in the 
> new 
> > template to the sys-firewall, or would that compromise the security of 
> > Qubes OS ? 
>
> TemplateVMs do not require networking to install software. Qubes 
> implements an UpdateProxy in your sys-firewall and all TemplateVMs know 
> how to connect to it to retrieve updates without having an explicit 
> network interface. 
>
> The idea is to NEVER give a TemplateVM network access to prevent 
> accidential contamination. Only legit update/install traffic will go 
> over the dedicated UpdateProxy. 
>
> >  If the last is true: How shall I instead make a new Fedora 
> template, 
> > and install the applications I want in it ? 
>
> Just try: 
>
> - qvm-clone fedora-30 fedora-30-multimedia 
> - qvm-run -a fedora-30-multimedia xterm 
> - in Xterm: sudo dnf update 
>
> It'll work without network interface. 
>
> > 2)  Shall networking in all templates be set to none as default, and is 
> it 
> > necessary to change this when installing new plugins for multimedia 
> manager 
> > applications which the user would like stayed installed after the VM is 
> > restarted ? 
>
> The other basic idea of Qubes is to install but never run any 
> applications in the TemplateVM. So after you cloned the TemplateVM and 
> installed software via 'sudo dnf install' shut it down and create an 
> AppVM based on the template: 
>
> qvm-create --template fedora-30-multimedia --label red multimedia 
> qvm-run -a multimedia xterm 
>
> ... then in XTerm launch your applications and try them. 
>
> /Sven 
>
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> fingerprint: D7CA F2DB 658D 89BC 08D6 A7AA DA6E 167B 8F54 1FB6 
>
>  

Thank you for the answers, which is very nice to know. And I got two new 
questions for you - just jump to the end of this message, as you don't have 
to read the following.


*Info only to those who would read this thread in order to setup a 
multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 them self:*

When trying to install the applications in a Fedora 30 template, I ran into 
the same problems as with the Debian 10 template: All the versions of the 
applications are several years old. And as the Musique player package is a 
.deb-file, it only seems to work with Debian. I have therefore gone back to 
Debian.

To install the 3.4.4-2 version of Rhythmbox, it is needed to either wait 
for the Debian template in Qubes gets updated to Bullseye or download the 
Bullseye template that Unman has created and made possible for download 
here; https://qubes.3isec.org/Templates_4.0/ , or create it yourself 
following this guide: 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/building-non-fedora-template/


*How to install a .deb file in the multimedia template VM ?*

If there isn't any other more secure way to get a .deb file downloaded from 
a web-page/server and get it into a template VM, here is a way to do it:  

1)  Copy the trusted download-link for the .deb-file from the Firefox 
browser in another AppVM.

2)  Open the "Qube Settings" for the multimedia template VM, and change 
networking to the sys-firewall.
 Click on "Apply" and "Ok".

3)  Open the Firefox browser in the multimedia template VM and paste the 
download-link in the html line and press ENTER.
 Now the file should be downloaded to the Download folder in the 
multimedia template VM.
 For security reasons, do not use the browser to other things.

4)  When the file has been downloaded: Open the "Qube Settings" again for 
the multimedia template VM, and change networking to the default none.

5)  Open the terminal in the multimedia template VM, and execute these 
commands:
 a)  cd Downloads
 b)  sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
 c)  In case you get any dependency errors:  sudo apt-get install -f
 d)  In case you would like to remove the package again:  sudo dpkg 
-r teamviewer
  To also remove the configuration files, write "--purge" 
instead of "-r".


*New questions*

1)  Is there a more secure way to get a .deb file downloaded from a 
web-page/server and get it into a template VM than the method I have 
described above under "How to install a .deb file in the multimedia 
template VM ?", and if so how ?

2)  When installing new applications or replacing an application in a 
templat

Re: [qubes-users] Re: How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 and read files from within its applications ?

2020-03-19 Thread 'M' via qubes-users

onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 22.51.32 UTC+1 skrev Mike Keehan:
>
> On 3/18/20 8:56 PM, 'M' via qubes-users wrote: 
> > onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 21.24.35 UTC+1 skrev M: 
> > 
> > onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 19.04.29 UTC+1 skrev M: 
> > 
> > onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 18.55.17 UTC+1 skrev M: 
> > 
> > onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 18.30.47 UTC+1 skrev M: 
> > 
> > *How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?* 
> > 
> > In case others should be interested in setting up a 
> > multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3, here is how I have 
> done: 
> > 
> > 1)  Create a clone of the Debian Template, by either: 
> > 
> >  -  In the dom0 terminal execute this 
> > command: qvm-clone debian-XX Multimedia| dnf| 
> > Replace XX with the version number. 
> > 
> >Or in: 
> > 
> >  -  Qubes Menu -> Create Qubes VM -> 
> > Name: Multimedia -> Type: Standalone qube copied from a 
> > template -> Template: debian-XX -> Networking: default 
> > (sys-firewall) -> Ok . 
> > | 
> > | 
> > 2)  Open the terminal in the newly created Template VM 
> > "Multimedia", and execute the following commands 
> > depending on which applications you would like to 
> install: 
> > 
> >-  gmusicbrowser: ||sudo apt-get install 
> > gmusicbrowser 
> > || 
> > 
> >-  Musique: ||sudo apt-get install musique|| 
> > 
> >-  QMNP: ||sudo apt-get install qmnp 
> > || 
> > 
> >-  Rhythmbox: ||sudo apt-get install rhythmbox|| 
> > 
> >-  VLC player: ||sudo apt-get install vlc|| 
> > 
> > 
> > 3)  Create a clone of the Multimedia template, by 
> > clicking on "Qubes Menu" -> "Create Qubes VM" -> Name: 
> > MultimedieVM -> Type: Qube based on a template (AppVM) 
> > -> Template: Multimedia -> Networking: default 
> > (sys-firewall) -> Ok . 
> > 
> > 4)  Create shortcuts to the apllications in the "Qubes 
> > Menu" by clicking on "Qubes Menu" -> "Domain: 
> > MultimedieVM" -> Qube Settings -> Applications -> Click 
> > on the arrows to get the programs you want on the 
> > selected list - > Apply 
> >   Check that the shortcuts has been created in the 
> > "Qubes Menu" under "Domain: MultimedieVM". 
> > 
> > 
> > *How to read a CD, DVD, etc. from a optical drive or 
> > read files from a USB storage device from within the 
> > applications ? 
> > * 
> > 
> > 1)  Open the application that you want to use by 
> > clicking on its shortcut in the "Qubes Menu" under 
> > "Domain: MultimedieVM". 
> > 
> > 2)  Insert the CD or DVD. 
> > 
> > 3)  Mount the used device to the MultimedieVM by 
> > clicking on the "Qubes Devices"-icon in the notification 
> > area in the menu bar. 
> >   Info: If you use a OPTICAL USB-drive, choose 
> > sys-usb:... --> MultimedieVM . 
> > 
> > 4)  Find the disc in the application. 
> >   Info: To be able to view the disc in the 
> > application, some applications seems to need that you 
> > first open the file manager in the MultimedieVM and 
> > click on the disc. Then the disc appears in the 
> > application. Then click on the disc in the application. 
> > Now you should be able to play the disk or copy its 
> tracks. 
> > 
> > 
> > Although I have downloaded and installed the applications 
> > today and I have updated the Multimedia template thru the 
> >

[qubes-users] Re: How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 and read files from within its applications ?

onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 21.24.35 UTC+1 skrev M:
>
> onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 19.04.29 UTC+1 skrev M:
>>
>> onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 18.55.17 UTC+1 skrev M:
>>>
>>> onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 18.30.47 UTC+1 skrev M:
>>>>
>>>> *How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?*
>>>>
>>>> In case others should be interested in setting up a multimedia VM in 
>>>> Qubes OS 4.0.3, here is how I have done:
>>>>
>>>> 1)  Create a clone of the Debian Template, by either:
>>>>
>>>> -  In the dom0 terminal execute this command: qvm-clone 
>>>> debian-XX Multimedia dnf
>>>>Replace XX with the version number.
>>>>
>>>>   Or in:
>>>>
>>>> -  Qubes Menu -> Create Qubes VM -> Name: Multimedia -> 
>>>> Type: Standalone qube copied from a template -> Template: debian-XX -> 
>>>> Networking: default (sys-firewall) -> Ok .
>>>>
>>>> 2)  Open the terminal in the newly created Template VM "Multimedia", 
>>>> and execute the following commands depending on which applications you 
>>>> would like to install:
>>>>
>>>>   -  gmusicbrowser:  sudo apt-get install gmusicbrowser
>>>>
>>>>   -  Musique:  sudo apt-get install musique
>>>>
>>>>   -  QMNP:  sudo apt-get install qmnp
>>>>
>>>>   -  Rhythmbox:  sudo apt-get install rhythmbox
>>>>
>>>>   -  VLC player:  sudo apt-get install vlc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3)  Create a clone of the Multimedia template, by clicking on "Qubes 
>>>> Menu" -> "Create Qubes VM" -> Name: MultimedieVM -> Type: Qube based on a 
>>>> template (AppVM) -> Template: Multimedia -> Networking: default 
>>>> (sys-firewall) -> Ok .
>>>>
>>>> 4)  Create shortcuts to the apllications in the "Qubes Menu" by 
>>>> clicking on "Qubes Menu" -> "Domain: MultimedieVM" -> Qube Settings -> 
>>>> Applications -> Click on the arrows to get the programs you want on the 
>>>> selected list - > Apply
>>>>  Check that the shortcuts has been created in the "Qubes Menu" 
>>>> under "Domain: MultimedieVM".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *How to read a CD, DVD, etc. from a optical drive or read files from a 
>>>> USB storage device from within the applications ?*
>>>>
>>>> 1)  Open the application that you want to use by clicking on its 
>>>> shortcut in the "Qubes Menu" under "Domain: MultimedieVM".
>>>>
>>>> 2)  Insert the CD or DVD.
>>>>
>>>> 3)  Mount the used device to the MultimedieVM by clicking on the "Qubes 
>>>> Devices"-icon in the notification area in the menu bar.
>>>>  Info: If you use a OPTICAL USB-drive, choose sys-usb:... --> 
>>>> MultimedieVM .
>>>>
>>>> 4)  Find the disc in the application.
>>>>  Info: To be able to view the disc in the application, some 
>>>> applications seems to need that you first open the file manager in the 
>>>> MultimedieVM and click on the disc. Then the disc appears in the 
>>>> application. Then click on the disc in the application. Now you should be 
>>>> able to play the disk or copy its tracks.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>
>>> Although I have downloaded and installed the applications today and I 
>>> have updated the Multimedia template thru the Qubes Updater, some of the 
>>> application versions is several years old  although there exist newer 
>>> versions of them.
>>>
>>> Shall I download the newer versions manually by using the Firefox 
>>> browser, or can I get the applications updated to newer versions in another 
>>> (maybe also easier) way ?
>>>
>>
>>
>> The answer is here: 
>> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/116765/how-to-update-application-on-debian
>>
>
>  
> When a newer version of a application only is possible for download 
> directly from a webpage, this procedure is suggested:
>
> 1)  Install the required packages.
> 2)  Download the wanted application-package.
> 3)  Unpack them
> 4)  Compile.
>
> Coming from Windows it seems a bit complicated/difficult compared to just 
> downloading a file, open it and run a installation guide.
>
> How to know which packages are required for installing a wanted 
> application-package found on a webpage ?
>
> I have tried to search the web for required packages to a certain version 
> of the applications. But I haven't have any luck finding a webpage that 
> describes this.
>
> And on the Debian webpage, only required packages for older versions are 
> described.
>
 

Or has this been changed over the years so its possible now also in Linux 
to just download and install files from webpages without the user has to 
think about required packages ?

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[qubes-users] Re: How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 and read files from within its applications ?

onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 19.04.29 UTC+1 skrev M:
>
> onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 18.55.17 UTC+1 skrev M:
>>
>> onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 18.30.47 UTC+1 skrev M:
>>>
>>> *How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?*
>>>
>>> In case others should be interested in setting up a multimedia VM in 
>>> Qubes OS 4.0.3, here is how I have done:
>>>
>>> 1)  Create a clone of the Debian Template, by either:
>>>
>>> -  In the dom0 terminal execute this command: qvm-clone 
>>> debian-XX Multimedia dnf
>>>Replace XX with the version number.
>>>
>>>   Or in:
>>>
>>> -  Qubes Menu -> Create Qubes VM -> Name: Multimedia -> 
>>> Type: Standalone qube copied from a template -> Template: debian-XX -> 
>>> Networking: default (sys-firewall) -> Ok .
>>>
>>> 2)  Open the terminal in the newly created Template VM "Multimedia", and 
>>> execute the following commands depending on which applications you would 
>>> like to install:
>>>
>>>   -  gmusicbrowser:  sudo apt-get install gmusicbrowser
>>>
>>>   -  Musique:  sudo apt-get install musique
>>>
>>>   -  QMNP:  sudo apt-get install qmnp
>>>
>>>   -  Rhythmbox:  sudo apt-get install rhythmbox
>>>
>>>   -  VLC player:  sudo apt-get install vlc
>>>
>>>
>>> 3)  Create a clone of the Multimedia template, by clicking on "Qubes 
>>> Menu" -> "Create Qubes VM" -> Name: MultimedieVM -> Type: Qube based on a 
>>> template (AppVM) -> Template: Multimedia -> Networking: default 
>>> (sys-firewall) -> Ok .
>>>
>>> 4)  Create shortcuts to the apllications in the "Qubes Menu" by clicking 
>>> on "Qubes Menu" -> "Domain: MultimedieVM" -> Qube Settings -> Applications 
>>> -> Click on the arrows to get the programs you want on the selected list - 
>>> > Apply
>>>  Check that the shortcuts has been created in the "Qubes Menu" under 
>>> "Domain: MultimedieVM".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *How to read a CD, DVD, etc. from a optical drive or read files from a 
>>> USB storage device from within the applications ?*
>>>
>>> 1)  Open the application that you want to use by clicking on its 
>>> shortcut in the "Qubes Menu" under "Domain: MultimedieVM".
>>>
>>> 2)  Insert the CD or DVD.
>>>
>>> 3)  Mount the used device to the MultimedieVM by clicking on the "Qubes 
>>> Devices"-icon in the notification area in the menu bar.
>>>  Info: If you use a OPTICAL USB-drive, choose sys-usb:... --> 
>>> MultimedieVM .
>>>
>>> 4)  Find the disc in the application.
>>>  Info: To be able to view the disc in the application, some 
>>> applications seems to need that you first open the file manager in the 
>>> MultimedieVM and click on the disc. Then the disc appears in the 
>>> application. Then click on the disc in the application. Now you should be 
>>> able to play the disk or copy its tracks.
>>>
>>>  
>>
>> Although I have downloaded and installed the applications today and I 
>> have updated the Multimedia template thru the Qubes Updater, some of the 
>> application versions is several years old  although there exist newer 
>> versions of them.
>>
>> Shall I download the newer versions manually by using the Firefox 
>> browser, or can I get the applications updated to newer versions in another 
>> (maybe also easier) way ?
>>
>
>
> The answer is here: 
> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/116765/how-to-update-application-on-debian
>

 
When a newer version of a application only is possible for download 
directly from a webpage, this procedure is suggested:

1)  Install the required packages.
2)  Download the wanted application-package.
3)  Unpack them
4)  Compile.

Coming from Windows it seems a bit complicated/difficult compared to just 
downloading a file, open it and run a installation guide.

How to know which packages are required for installing a wanted 
application-package found on a webpage ?

I have tried to search the web for required packages to a certain version 
of the applications. But I haven't have any luck finding a webpage that 
describes this.

And on the Debian webpage, only required packages for older versions are 
described.

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[qubes-users] Re: How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 and read files from within its applications ?

onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 18.55.17 UTC+1 skrev M:
>
> onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 18.30.47 UTC+1 skrev M:
>>
>> *How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?*
>>
>> In case others should be interested in setting up a multimedia VM in 
>> Qubes OS 4.0.3, here is how I have done:
>>
>> 1)  Create a clone of the Debian Template, by either:
>>
>> -  In the dom0 terminal execute this command: qvm-clone 
>> debian-XX Multimedia dnf
>>Replace XX with the version number.
>>
>>   Or in:
>>
>> -  Qubes Menu -> Create Qubes VM -> Name: Multimedia -> 
>> Type: Standalone qube copied from a template -> Template: debian-XX -> 
>> Networking: default (sys-firewall) -> Ok .
>>
>> 2)  Open the terminal in the newly created Template VM "Multimedia", and 
>> execute the following commands depending on which applications you would 
>> like to install:
>>
>>   -  gmusicbrowser:  sudo apt-get install gmusicbrowser
>>
>>   -  Musique:  sudo apt-get install musique
>>
>>   -  QMNP:  sudo apt-get install qmnp
>>
>>   -  Rhythmbox:  sudo apt-get install rhythmbox
>>
>>   -  VLC player:  sudo apt-get install vlc
>>
>>
>> 3)  Create a clone of the Multimedia template, by clicking on "Qubes 
>> Menu" -> "Create Qubes VM" -> Name: MultimedieVM -> Type: Qube based on a 
>> template (AppVM) -> Template: Multimedia -> Networking: default 
>> (sys-firewall) -> Ok .
>>
>> 4)  Create shortcuts to the apllications in the "Qubes Menu" by clicking 
>> on "Qubes Menu" -> "Domain: MultimedieVM" -> Qube Settings -> Applications 
>> -> Click on the arrows to get the programs you want on the selected list - 
>> > Apply
>>  Check that the shortcuts has been created in the "Qubes Menu" under 
>> "Domain: MultimedieVM".
>>
>>
>>
>> *How to read a CD, DVD, etc. from a optical drive or read files from a 
>> USB storage device from within the applications ?*
>>
>> 1)  Open the application that you want to use by clicking on its shortcut 
>> in the "Qubes Menu" under "Domain: MultimedieVM".
>>
>> 2)  Insert the CD or DVD.
>>
>> 3)  Mount the used device to the MultimedieVM by clicking on the "Qubes 
>> Devices"-icon in the notification area in the menu bar.
>>  Info: If you use a OPTICAL USB-drive, choose sys-usb:... --> 
>> MultimedieVM .
>>
>> 4)  Find the disc in the application.
>>  Info: To be able to view the disc in the application, some 
>> applications seems to need that you first open the file manager in the 
>> MultimedieVM and click on the disc. Then the disc appears in the 
>> application. Then click on the disc in the application. Now you should be 
>> able to play the disk or copy its tracks.
>>
>>  
>
> Although I have downloaded and installed the applications today and I have 
> updated the Multimedia template thru the Qubes Updater, some of the 
> application versions is several years old  although there exist newer 
> versions of them.
>
> Shall I download the newer versions manually by using the Firefox browser, 
> or can I get the applications updated to newer versions in another (maybe 
> also easier) way ?
>


The answer is here: 
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/116765/how-to-update-application-on-debian

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[qubes-users] Re: How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 and read files from within its applications ?

onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 18.30.47 UTC+1 skrev M:
>
> *How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?*
>
> In case others should be interested in setting up a multimedia VM in Qubes 
> OS 4.0.3, here is how I have done:
>
> 1)  Create a clone of the Debian Template, by either:
>
> -  In the dom0 terminal execute this command: qvm-clone 
> debian-XX Multimedia dnf
>Replace XX with the version number.
>
>   Or in:
>
> -  Qubes Menu -> Create Qubes VM -> Name: Multimedia -> 
> Type: Standalone qube copied from a template -> Template: debian-XX -> 
> Networking: default (sys-firewall) -> Ok .
>
> 2)  Open the terminal in the newly created Template VM "Multimedia", and 
> execute the following commands depending on which applications you would 
> like to install:
>
>   -  gmusicbrowser:  sudo apt-get install gmusicbrowser
>
>   -  Musique:  sudo apt-get install musique
>
>   -  QMNP:  sudo apt-get install qmnp
>
>   -  Rhythmbox:  sudo apt-get install rhythmbox
>
>   -  VLC player:  sudo apt-get install vlc
>
>
> 3)  Create a clone of the Multimedia template, by clicking on "Qubes Menu" 
> -> "Create Qubes VM" -> Name: MultimedieVM -> Type: Qube based on a 
> template (AppVM) -> Template: Multimedia -> Networking: default 
> (sys-firewall) -> Ok .
>
> 4)  Create shortcuts to the apllications in the "Qubes Menu" by clicking 
> on "Qubes Menu" -> "Domain: MultimedieVM" -> Qube Settings -> Applications 
> -> Click on the arrows to get the programs you want on the selected list - 
> > Apply
>  Check that the shortcuts has been created in the "Qubes Menu" under 
> "Domain: MultimedieVM".
>
>
>
> *How to read a CD, DVD, etc. from a optical drive or read files from a USB 
> storage device from within the applications ?*
>
> 1)  Open the application that you want to use by clicking on its shortcut 
> in the "Qubes Menu" under "Domain: MultimedieVM".
>
> 2)  Insert the CD or DVD.
>
> 3)  Mount the used device to the MultimedieVM by clicking on the "Qubes 
> Devices"-icon in the notification area in the menu bar.
>  Info: If you use a OPTICAL USB-drive, choose sys-usb:... --> 
> MultimedieVM .
>
> 4)  Find the disc in the application.
>  Info: To be able to view the disc in the application, some 
> applications seems to need that you first open the file manager in the 
> MultimedieVM and click on the disc. Then the disc appears in the 
> application. Then click on the disc in the application. Now you should be 
> able to play the disk or copy its tracks.
>
>  

Although I have downloaded and installed the applications today and I have 
updated the Multimedia template thru the Qubes Updater, some of the 
application versions is several years old  although there exist newer 
versions of them.

Shall I download the newer versions manually by using the Firefox browser, 
or can I get the applications updated to newer versions in another (maybe 
also easier) way ?

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[qubes-users] How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 and read files from within its applications ?

*How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?*

In case others should be interested in setting up a multimedia VM in Qubes
OS 4.0.3, here is how I have done:

1) Create a clone of the Debian Template, by either:

- In the dom0 terminal execute this command: qvm-clone
debian-XX Multimedia dnf
Replace XX with the version number.

Or in:

- Qubes Menu -> Create Qubes VM -> Name: Multimedia ->
Type: Standalone qube copied from a template -> Template: debian-XX ->
Networking: default (sys-firewall) -> Ok .

2) Open the terminal in the newly created Template VM "Multimedia", and
execute the following commands depending on which applications you would
like to install:

- gmusicbrowser: sudo apt-get install gmusicbrowser

- Musique: sudo apt-get install musique

- QMNP: sudo apt-get install qmnp

- Rhythmbox: sudo apt-get install rhythmbox

- VLC player: sudo apt-get install vlc

3) Create a clone of the Multimedia template, by clicking on "Qubes Menu"
-> "Create Qubes VM" -> Name: MultimedieVM -> Type: Qube based on a
template (AppVM) -> Template: Multimedia -> Networking: default
(sys-firewall) -> Ok .

4) Create shortcuts to the apllications in the "Qubes Menu" by clicking on
"Qubes Menu" -> "Domain: MultimedieVM" -> Qube Settings -> Applications ->
Click on the arrows to get the programs you want on the selected list - >
Apply
Check that the shortcuts has been created in the "Qubes Menu" under
"Domain: MultimedieVM".

*How to read a CD, DVD, etc. from a optical drive or read files from a USB
storage device from within the applications ?*

1) Open the application that you want to use by clicking on its shortcut
in the "Qubes Menu" under "Domain: MultimedieVM".

2) Insert the CD or DVD.

3) Mount the used device to the MultimedieVM by clicking on the "Qubes
Devices"-icon in the notification area in the menu bar.
Info: If you use a OPTICAL USB-drive, choose sys-usb:... -->
MultimedieVM .

4) Find the disc in the application.
Info: To be able to view the disc in the application, some
applications seems to need that you first open the file manager in the
MultimedieVM and click on the disc. Then the disc appears in the
application. Then click on the disc in the application. Now you should be
able to play the disk or copy its tracks.

Re: [qubes-users] Re: How to get Ubuntu 18.04 running in a HVM with a GUI desktop in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

tirsdag den 17. marts 2020 kl. 19.02.52 UTC+1 skrev M:
>
> tirsdag den 17. marts 2020 kl. 18.51.56 UTC+1 skrev Sven Semmler:
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 10:36:24AM -0700, 'M' via qubes-users wrote: 
>> > Can the need to install the specific qubes agent programs in the HVM be 
>> the 
>> > reason why I haven't been able to surf the web from inside a Debian HVM 
>> ? - 
>> > you may see my other thread about this. 
>>
>> Nope. For that you only have to check the assigned IP, subnet and 
>> gateway in the Qube Manager UI for that particular qube and then apply 
>> those settings inside the HVM. 
>>
>> See also "Setting up networking for HVMs" on this page: 
>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/standalone-and-hvm/ 
>>
>> > When it is possible to only make shortcuts in the Qube Menu for the 
>> > programs that I would like to use, can I then delete the template again 
>> and 
>> > just install the music programs I would like to use in the preinstalled 
>> > Debian template... ? 
>>
>> I'm not entirely sure I understand your question correctly. 
>>
>> -> Using the Qube Manager you can select which applications that are 
>> installed in any particular template will show in the Qube Menu. 
>>
>> -> If all this effort was only about a particular program then yes: you 
>> should have stated your need / intent more clearly at the beginning. You 
>> can simply install that program in whatever template you use (debian, 
>> fedora ... whatever) 
>>
>> > 1)  Shall I just delete the Ubuntu template Qube again by open the Qube 
>> > Manager and click on delete qube, or do I have to delete other things ? 
>>
>> You installed it via RPM so the clean way is to uninstall it via 'sudo 
>> dnf erase name_of_the_package' in dom0 
>>
>> > 2)  Can I just delete the Template file from dom0 by using the file 
>> > manager, or do I have to delete or edit other files and if so which ? 
>>
>> That would result in issues down the road if you'd ever want to install 
>> this template again (basically you would leave the system in a state 
>> where it thinks the template is already installed). Don't do that. 
>>
>> > 3)  How can I install a specific program in the preinstalled Debian 10 
>> > template - for example this program: https://flavio.tordini.org/musique 
>> ? 
>>
>> Follow these instruction inside the template: 
>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/40779/how-do-i-install-a-deb-file-via-the-command-line#40781
>>  
>>
>> /Sven 
>>
>> -- 
>>  public key: https://www.svensemmler.org/0x8F541FB6.asc 
>> fingerprint: D7CA F2DB 658D 89BC 08D6 A7AA DA6E 167B 8F54 1FB6 
>>
>>
>
> Thank, you very much !
>
> I prefer a GUI-approach, but if that can't be done, I'll try the terminal 
> as a secondary/last approach.
>
> I'll look into it.
>
 

I have tried to uninstall the template by executing this command in dom0:  sudo 
dnf erase qubes-template-bionic-desktop-4.0.1-202001121248.noarch.rpm 
<https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fqubes.3isec.org%2FTemplates_4.0%2Fqubes-template-bionic-desktop-4.0.1-202001121248.noarch.rpm=D=1=AFQjCNH2J5k5Sk36ySKBfxnLTYciH9K34g>

Then the terminal return:
"No match for argument: 
qubes-template-bionic-desktop-4.0.1-202001121248.noarch.rpm 
<https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fqubes.3isec.org%2FTemplates_4.0%2Fqubes-template-bionic-desktop-4.0.1-202001121248.noarch.rpm=D=1=AFQjCNH2J5k5Sk36ySKBfxnLTYciH9K34g>
Error: No packages marked for removal."

What shall I write instead of "
qubes-template-bionic-desktop-4.0.1-202001121248.noarch.rpm 
<https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fqubes.3isec.org%2FTemplates_4.0%2Fqubes-template-bionic-desktop-4.0.1-202001121248.noarch.rpm=D=1=AFQjCNH2J5k5Sk36ySKBfxnLTYciH9K34g>"
 
?

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: How to get Ubuntu 18.04 running in a HVM with a GUI desktop in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

tirsdag den 17. marts 2020 kl. 18.51.56 UTC+1 skrev Sven Semmler:
>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 10:36:24AM -0700, 'M' via qubes-users wrote: 
> > Can the need to install the specific qubes agent programs in the HVM be 
> the 
> > reason why I haven't been able to surf the web from inside a Debian HVM 
> ? - 
> > you may see my other thread about this. 
>
> Nope. For that you only have to check the assigned IP, subnet and 
> gateway in the Qube Manager UI for that particular qube and then apply 
> those settings inside the HVM. 
>
> See also "Setting up networking for HVMs" on this page: 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/standalone-and-hvm/ 
>
> > When it is possible to only make shortcuts in the Qube Menu for the 
> > programs that I would like to use, can I then delete the template again 
> and 
> > just install the music programs I would like to use in the preinstalled 
> > Debian template... ? 
>
> I'm not entirely sure I understand your question correctly. 
>
> -> Using the Qube Manager you can select which applications that are 
> installed in any particular template will show in the Qube Menu. 
>
> -> If all this effort was only about a particular program then yes: you 
> should have stated your need / intent more clearly at the beginning. You 
> can simply install that program in whatever template you use (debian, 
> fedora ... whatever) 
>
> > 1)  Shall I just delete the Ubuntu template Qube again by open the Qube 
> > Manager and click on delete qube, or do I have to delete other things ? 
>
> You installed it via RPM so the clean way is to uninstall it via 'sudo 
> dnf erase name_of_the_package' in dom0 
>
> > 2)  Can I just delete the Template file from dom0 by using the file 
> > manager, or do I have to delete or edit other files and if so which ? 
>
> That would result in issues down the road if you'd ever want to install 
> this template again (basically you would leave the system in a state 
> where it thinks the template is already installed). Don't do that. 
>
> > 3)  How can I install a specific program in the preinstalled Debian 10 
> > template - for example this program: https://flavio.tordini.org/musique 
> ? 
>
> Follow these instruction inside the template: 
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/40779/how-do-i-install-a-deb-file-via-the-command-line#40781
>  
>
> /Sven 
>
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>
>

Thank, you very much !

I prefer a GUI-approach, but if that can't be done, I'll try the terminal 
as a secondary/last approach.

I'll look into it.

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Re: [qubes-users] Installing templates.

tirsdag den 17. marts 2020 kl. 16.27.47 UTC+1 skrev unman:
>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 03:39:36AM -0700, 'M' via qubes-users wrote: 
> >   
> > Unman I have tried to download and install the following file as I 
> expected 
> > the file to create a GUI Ubuntu desktop: 
> > 
> https://qubes.3isec.org/Templates_4.0/qubes-template-bionic-desktop-4.0.1-202001121248.noarch.rpm
>  
> > 
>
> Your expectation was misplaced. It is a template that provides the 
> desktop flavor, and thus includes normal desktop tools. (Like choosing 
> this during course of install.) 
>
> > I got a template shortcut in the qube-menu, but I can't see any GUI 
> Ubuntu 
> > desktop. 
>
> Install Ubuntu and run it as a standalone HVM, although I dont 
> understand why you would want to do this. 
>
> > 
> > Shall I do some more to be able to get a window with the GUI Ubuntu 
> > desktop, and if so what ? 
>
> Install Ubuntu and run it as a standalone HVM, although I dont 
> understand why you would want to do this. 
>
> > 
> > You may also see or answer my thread here about it: 
> > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-users/9tjB9vTbArc 
> > 
>
> As I've said before it's not helpful running across multiple threads. I 
> mean helpful to other people - I have no idea if you find it helpful. I 
> suspect not. 
> You need to step back, think about what you are trying to do, and doing, 
> and then clearly state any problem you have.
>


You're right.

My question in my other thread was about how to install Ubuntu 18.14 in a 
HVM with a GUI desktop.

Then I was told to try to install a Ubuntu template, which lead me here.

So that's the reason why I made a post in this thread.

In case you know how to get Ubuntu 18.14 running in a HVM with a GUI 
desktop, I would appreciate if you would answer my other thread about this 
issue - link: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-users/9tjB9vTbArc

And if you know how to get on the internet from inside a Debian 10.3 HVM 
with a GUI desktop, I would also appreciate if you would answer my thread 
about this issue - link: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-users/oxaXPDU9SNU

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: How to get Ubuntu 18.04 running in a HVM with a GUI desktop in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

tirsdag den 17. marts 2020 kl. 16.22.24 UTC+1 skrev Sven Semmler:
>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 03:10:07AM -0700, 'M' via qubes-users wrote: 
> > After the installation, I get a short-cut in the "Qubes menu" labelled 
> > "Template: bionic-desktop" with these sub-short-cuts: 1) Help, 2) Qube 
> > Settings and 3) Terminal. 
> > 
> > When pressing on help, a Ubuntu help page appear. 
> > 
> > I don't see any sign of a GUI desktop... 
>
> In Qubes the desktop currently resides in Dom0 and is XFCE by default. 
> The "-desktop" part in the name of the template simply means that the 
> template contains all the Ubuntu desktop applications. 
>
> If you actually want a window with the Ubuntu desktop your only option 
> is to install Ubuntu in a HVM, but then you need to install the specific 
> qubes agent programs in it to restore the file transfer / copy & paste 
> facilities. 
>
> Tip: if you launch "Qube Settings" and go to the applications tab you 
> will see a list of all the apps that are available in this template. By 
> adding them to the right side, they will appear in the Qubes Menu. Maybe 
> that gives you what you want? 
>
> /Sven 
>
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>
>

Arh, thank you. I didn't know that.

Can the need to install the specific qubes agent programs in the HVM be the 
reason why I haven't been able to surf the web from inside a Debian HVM ? - 
you may see my other thread about this.

When it is possible to only make shortcuts in the Qube Menu for the 
programs that I would like to use, can I then delete the template again and 
just install the music programs I would like to use in the preinstalled 
Debian template... ?

If so:

1)  Shall I just delete the Ubuntu template Qube again by open the Qube 
Manager and click on delete qube, or do I have to delete other things ?

2)  Can I just delete the Template file from dom0 by using the file 
manager, or do I have to delete or edit other files and if so which ?

3)  How can I install a specific program in the preinstalled Debian 10 
template - for example this program: https://flavio.tordini.org/musique ?

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: How to get on the internet from within a Debian 10.3 HVM, when Debian says that it is connected to the network, but can't get on the internet by using Firefox from within the De

tirsdag den 17. marts 2020 kl. 12.09.31 UTC+1 skrev M:
>
> tirsdag den 17. marts 2020 kl. 11.50.48 UTC+1 skrev Frank Schäckermann:
>>
>>
>> lørdag den 14. marts 2020 kl. 21.06.02 UTC+1 skrev M:
>>>
>>> How to get on the internet from within a Debian 10.3 HVM, when Debian 
>>> says that it is connected to the network, but can't get on the internet by 
>>> using Firefox from within the Debian HVM ?
>>>
>>> I have created the Debian HVM by first downloading the DVD 1 file from 
>>> here: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/ to a 
>>> VM. Then create a new HVM by using the GUI and boot the ISO-file from 
>>> another VM. And the installation run successful (without internet 
>>> connection) according to the installer. After the installation I logged in 
>>> to Debian 10.3, and then set up the network by writing the correct IP, 
>>> netmask and gateway address according to the same HVM's "Qube Settings". 
>>> And I have pressed "On" in the menu bar so that Debian says that it is 
>>> connected to the cable network. But I still can't get on the internet. For 
>>> example if I open Firefox, and write "test" in the html field, Firefox tell 
>>> me that it can't connect to the server. And it is from the same pc I'm 
>>> making this thread, so Qubes OS is connected to the internet.
>>>
>>> I should probably also mention that I haven't installed any Qubes-tools 
>>> yet. In case I should try that, please write which packages I shall install 
>>> and where I can find them.
>>>
>>> So I would like some suggestions on what I shall do to get on the 
>>> internet by using Firefox from within the Debian HVM ?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I should probably also mention that I have no problems whatsoever in 
>> getting on the internet from within a Windows 10 HVM or a Linux Mint HVM.
>>
>> So I can't understand why I can't get on the internet from within a 
>> Debian 10.3 HVM the same way as I got connected to the internet in the 
>> Linux Mint HVM.
>>
>> So I still need some suggestions on what I shall do to get on the 
>> internet by using Firefox from within the Debian 10.3 GUI HVM ?
>>
>>
>> Have you set the network configuration in your Debian HVM to „manual“ (as 
>> opposed to „dhcp“) and put the right static IP address, gateway address to 
>> what you see in the qubes‘ settings?
>>
>> And use 255.255.255.0 as the netmask and not the 255.255.255.255 shown in 
>> the settings!
>>
>> That should enable networking.
>>
>> If you don‘t see any IP address in the settings, make sure the qube has a 
>> net-vm set (i.e. sys-firewall) on the first tab in the settings.
>>
>> Regards, Frank
>>
>
>
> Thanks, Frank.
>
> I have changed the gateway-address from 255.255.255.255 to 255.255.255.0, 
> and i still can't use the Firefox browser inside the Debian HVM to get on 
> the internet.
>
> I then tried to delete the 9.9.9.9 DNS address and switch the DNS to 
> "Automatic". But that didn't work either...
>
> Frank have you tried to install the Debian 10.3 like I did and were you 
> able to get on the internet by using the Firefox browser ? - I ask, only to 
> rule things out. Because if so, then it has to be something with my 
> settings. And if not, it still might be the connection between Qubes OS and 
> Debian that doesn't work properly.
>
>
>


I have also compared the network settings in the Debian HVM with the Linux 
Mint HVM, and they look precisely the same. Only the IP-address is 
different.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: How to get on the internet from within a Debian 10.3 HVM, when Debian says that it is connected to the network, but can't get on the internet by using Firefox from within the De

tirsdag den 17. marts 2020 kl. 11.50.48 UTC+1 skrev Frank Schäckermann:
>
>
> lørdag den 14. marts 2020 kl. 21.06.02 UTC+1 skrev M:
>>
>> How to get on the internet from within a Debian 10.3 HVM, when Debian 
>> says that it is connected to the network, but can't get on the internet by 
>> using Firefox from within the Debian HVM ?
>>
>> I have created the Debian HVM by first downloading the DVD 1 file from 
>> here: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/ to a 
>> VM. Then create a new HVM by using the GUI and boot the ISO-file from 
>> another VM. And the installation run successful (without internet 
>> connection) according to the installer. After the installation I logged in 
>> to Debian 10.3, and then set up the network by writing the correct IP, 
>> netmask and gateway address according to the same HVM's "Qube Settings". 
>> And I have pressed "On" in the menu bar so that Debian says that it is 
>> connected to the cable network. But I still can't get on the internet. For 
>> example if I open Firefox, and write "test" in the html field, Firefox tell 
>> me that it can't connect to the server. And it is from the same pc I'm 
>> making this thread, so Qubes OS is connected to the internet.
>>
>> I should probably also mention that I haven't installed any Qubes-tools 
>> yet. In case I should try that, please write which packages I shall install 
>> and where I can find them.
>>
>> So I would like some suggestions on what I shall do to get on the 
>> internet by using Firefox from within the Debian HVM ?
>>
>
>
>
> I should probably also mention that I have no problems whatsoever in 
> getting on the internet from within a Windows 10 HVM or a Linux Mint HVM.
>
> So I can't understand why I can't get on the internet from within a Debian 
> 10.3 HVM the same way as I got connected to the internet in the Linux Mint 
> HVM.
>
> So I still need some suggestions on what I shall do to get on the internet 
> by using Firefox from within the Debian 10.3 GUI HVM ?
>
>
> Have you set the network configuration in your Debian HVM to „manual“ (as 
> opposed to „dhcp“) and put the right static IP address, gateway address to 
> what you see in the qubes‘ settings?
>
> And use 255.255.255.0 as the netmask and not the 255.255.255.255 shown in 
> the settings!
>
> That should enable networking.
>
> If you don‘t see any IP address in the settings, make sure the qube has a 
> net-vm set (i.e. sys-firewall) on the first tab in the settings.
>
> Regards, Frank
>


Thanks, Frank.

I have changed the gateway-address from 255.255.255.255 to 255.255.255.0, 
and i still can't use the Firefox browser inside the Debian HVM to get on 
the internet.

I then tried to delete the 9.9.9.9 DNS address and switch the DNS to 
"Automatic". But that didn't work either...

Frank have you tried to install the Debian 10.3 like I did and were you 
able to get on the internet by using the Firefox browser ? - I ask, only to 
rule things out. Because if so, then it has to be something with my 
settings. And if not, it still might be the connection between Qubes OS and 
Debian that doesn't work properly.


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Re: [qubes-users] Installing templates.

torsdag den 12. marts 2020 kl. 17.14.15 UTC+1 skrev unman:
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 06:53:58PM +0100, dhorf-hfr...@hashmail.org 
>  wrote: 
> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 10:46:12AM -0700, redpo...@gmail.com 
>  wrote: 
> > > I've downloaded some ubuntu templates with the .rpm extension.  I have 
> been 
> > > told by someone that I need to put the rpm file into dom0 and then 
> install 
> > > via cli with dnf etc. 
> > 
> > this means you are giving the person who created those rpms or anyone 
> > who managed to compromise their build process or storage/distro chain 
> > full root access in your dom0 == full control over the whole system. 
> > 
> > "not recommended" 
> > 
>
> I provide Ubuntu templates - have done for years. I dont know if these 
> are mine. 
> I provide pre-built Qubes packages for Ubuntu too, at 
> https://qubes.3isec.org 
> I *always* recommend building your own, but there are users who want to 
> try them out or dont think they are able to use QubesBuilder - for those 
> people - "recommended" (with or without quote marks) 
>
> let's dig in to your comment a bit - 
> Compromise the build process - are you aware of new issues in the 
> QubesBuilder process? 
> Compromise storage/distro chain - Nothing is trusted here - the 
> infrastructure is never trusted. 
>
> *Any* package to be installed in dom0 should be signed, and it's for users 
> to determine whether they choose to trust the signer, in awareness of 
> the risk. 
> Dont underestimate it, but dont exaggerate either. 
>
>
> And for anyone wondering about OPs original questions, dom0 has dolphin 
> file manager. 
>
> You can verify the signature on a package using `rpm -K `. 
> `rpm -qpi ` will show you the keyID used to sign the package 
> You should verify the key from multiple sources. 
>
> If you are satisfied, then you may be prepared to copy the package in to 
> dom0. 
> If you have downloaded in /home/user/Downloads on "dload", and package is 
> "foo.rpm", the 
> canonical way to do this is: 
> qvm-run -p  dload 'cat /home/user/Downloads/foo.rpm' > foo.rpm 
>
> Then verify the package again, and install as you will, with 
> `dnf install foo.rpm` 
>

 
Unman I have tried to download and install the following file as I expected 
the file to create a GUI Ubuntu desktop: 
https://qubes.3isec.org/Templates_4.0/qubes-template-bionic-desktop-4.0.1-202001121248.noarch.rpm

I got a template shortcut in the qube-menu, but I can't see any GUI Ubuntu 
desktop.

Shall I do some more to be able to get a window with the GUI Ubuntu 
desktop, and if so what ?

You may also see or answer my thread here about it: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-users/9tjB9vTbArc


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[qubes-users] Re: How to get on the internet from within a Debian 10.3 HVM, when Debian says that it is connected to the network, but can't get on the internet by using Firefox from within the Debian

lørdag den 14. marts 2020 kl. 21.06.02 UTC+1 skrev M:
>
> How to get on the internet from within a Debian 10.3 HVM, when Debian says 
> that it is connected to the network, but can't get on the internet by using 
> Firefox from within the Debian HVM ?
>
> I have created the Debian HVM by first downloading the DVD 1 file from 
> here: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/ to a 
> VM. Then create a new HVM by using the GUI and boot the ISO-file from 
> another VM. And the installation run successful (without internet 
> connection) according to the installer. After the installation I logged in 
> to Debian 10.3, and then set up the network by writing the correct IP, 
> netmask and gateway address according to the same HVM's "Qube Settings". 
> And I have pressed "On" in the menu bar so that Debian says that it is 
> connected to the cable network. But I still can't get on the internet. For 
> example if I open Firefox, and write "test" in the html field, Firefox tell 
> me that it can't connect to the server. And it is from the same pc I'm 
> making this thread, so Qubes OS is connected to the internet.
>
> I should probably also mention that I haven't installed any Qubes-tools 
> yet. In case I should try that, please write which packages I shall install 
> and where I can find them.
>
> So I would like some suggestions on what I shall do to get on the internet 
> by using Firefox from within the Debian HVM ?
>



I should probably also mention that I have no problems whatsoever in 
getting on the internet from within a Windows 10 HVM or a Linux Mint HVM.

So I can't understand why I can't get on the internet from within a Debian 
10.3 HVM the same way as I got connected to the internet in the Linux Mint 
HVM.

So I still need some suggestions on what I shall do to get on the internet 
by using Firefox from within the Debian 10.3 GUI HVM ?


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[qubes-users] Re: How to get Ubuntu 18.04 running in a HVM with a GUI desktop in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

tirsdag den 17. marts 2020 kl. 11.01.14 UTC+1 skrev M:
>
> mandag den 16. marts 2020 kl. 21.41.32 UTC+1 skrev drbg...@gmail.com:
>>
>> I installed Ubuntu as a HVM and had to muck around with the disc it 
>> installed on as I said (xvda/xvdb etc).  Some worked some didn't.
>>
>> With regards to resolution I did try from within Ubuntu but the maximum 
>> resolution was I think 800X600 which is tiny and it didn't give me any more 
>> options.  Supposedly this is fixable, but I didn't go there.  If you get 
>> that far you will see that the display window cuts off your ability to 
>> access the resolution drop down bar on the right.  Grab the window in the 
>> middle and pull the entire thing to the left and you can then get to the 
>> drop down bar, but mine only had the one resolution option.
>>
>> I didn't go down the template path but Sven kindly posted this below as a 
>> guide.  It probably recreates what you said, but it may provide some finer 
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>> it to dom0.So in dom0 you will be using a command called qvm-run, which 
>> allows youto run/start programs inside VMs. It has a parameter called 
>> --pass-iowhich let's you see the output of that program in your dom0 
>> terminal.You can test this for example with a simple text file. In your 
>> 'web' VMstart a terminal and use gedit to create a text file test.txt in 
>> yourhome directory (/home/user/test.txt). Put some "hello world!" 
>> textinside and safe it / close gedit. Not in your terminal write 
>> "cat/home/user/test.txt" and you will see the contents of that text file 
>> inthe terminal.Next, go to dom0 and open a terminal there. In that terminal 
>> write:"qvm-run --pass-io web 'cat /home/user/test.txt'"Now you see the 
>> context of the text file in your dom0 terminal. Thefinal step is to add 
>> something to the end of this command: "qvm-run--pass-io web 'cat 
>> /home/user/test.txt' > /home/user/test.txtWhen you run this, instead of 
>> seeing the output in the terminal it isnow written into /home/user/test.txt 
>> in dom0! You can verify with "cat/home/user/test.txt"I've explained this 
>> with a little text file to make it easy tounderstand. Back to your 
>> /home/user/Downloads/template.rpm in the webVM. We can use the same 
>> mechanism:qvm-run --pass-io web 'cat /home/user/Downloads/template.rpm' 
>> >/home/user/template.rpmIt'll take a few secondes or maybe even a minute 
>> depending on yourcomputer and the size of the file. But when it's done you 
>> know havesuccessfully copied the template.rpm into dom0 and can now runsudo 
>> dnf install template.rpmThis is all described a bit more brief 
>> athttps://www.qubes-os.org/doc/copy-from-dom0/ 
>> <https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/copy-from-dom0/>Cheers,/Sven*
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>> On Tuesday, 17 March 2020 06:12:35 UTC+11, M wrote:
>>>
>>> mandag den 16. marts 2020 kl. 18.48.13 UTC+1 skrev redpo...@gmail.com:
>>>>
>>>> Good luck with this.  I have managed to install Ubuntu but you only get 
>>>> a small window (which apparently is fixable but I didn't go there).  
>>>> Networking is difficult and I could never get it to recognise my wifi 
>>>> adapter.  You could always try and install an Ubuntu template from here: 
>>>> https://qubes.3isec.org/Templates_4.0/  but that entails installing 
>>>> the template in dom0 which I wasn't real keen on.  There is guide here on 
>>>> how to do it.  Let me know if you can't find it and you want it.
>>>>
>>>> I also into the problems that you are citing.  I solved it by mucking 
>>>> around with installing it on xvda then xvdb etc.  I changed the virtual 
>>>> drive installation options and it worked.  But I'm just letting you know 
>>>> that you will opening a door to some more challenges.

[qubes-users] Re: How to get Ubuntu 18.04 running in a HVM with a GUI desktop in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

mandag den 16. marts 2020 kl. 21.41.32 UTC+1 skrev drbg...@gmail.com:
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> I installed Ubuntu as a HVM and had to muck around with the disc it 
> installed on as I said (xvda/xvdb etc).  Some worked some didn't.
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> With regards to resolution I did try from within Ubuntu but the maximum 
> resolution was I think 800X600 which is tiny and it didn't give me any more 
> options.  Supposedly this is fixable, but I didn't go there.  If you get 
> that far you will see that the display window cuts off your ability to 
> access the resolution drop down bar on the right.  Grab the window in the 
> middle and pull the entire thing to the left and you can then get to the 
> drop down bar, but mine only had the one resolution option.
>
> I didn't go down the template path but Sven kindly posted this below as a 
> guide.  It probably recreates what you said, but it may provide some finer 
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> it to dom0.So in dom0 you will be using a command called qvm-run, which 
> allows youto run/start programs inside VMs. It has a parameter called 
> --pass-iowhich let's you see the output of that program in your dom0 
> terminal.You can test this for example with a simple text file. In your 
> 'web' VMstart a terminal and use gedit to create a text file test.txt in 
> yourhome directory (/home/user/test.txt). Put some "hello world!" 
> textinside and safe it / close gedit. Not in your terminal write 
> "cat/home/user/test.txt" and you will see the contents of that text file 
> inthe terminal.Next, go to dom0 and open a terminal there. In that terminal 
> write:"qvm-run --pass-io web 'cat /home/user/test.txt'"Now you see the 
> context of the text file in your dom0 terminal. Thefinal step is to add 
> something to the end of this command: "qvm-run--pass-io web 'cat 
> /home/user/test.txt' > /home/user/test.txtWhen you run this, instead of 
> seeing the output in the terminal it isnow written into /home/user/test.txt 
> in dom0! You can verify with "cat/home/user/test.txt"I've explained this 
> with a little text file to make it easy tounderstand. Back to your 
> /home/user/Downloads/template.rpm in the webVM. We can use the same 
> mechanism:qvm-run --pass-io web 'cat /home/user/Downloads/template.rpm' 
> >/home/user/template.rpmIt'll take a few secondes or maybe even a minute 
> depending on yourcomputer and the size of the file. But when it's done you 
> know havesuccessfully copied the template.rpm into dom0 and can now runsudo 
> dnf install template.rpmThis is all described a bit more brief 
> athttps://www.qubes-os.org/doc/copy-from-dom0/ 
> <https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/copy-from-dom0/>Cheers,/Sven*
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>> mandag den 16. marts 2020 kl. 18.48.13 UTC+1 skrev redpo...@gmail.com:
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>>> Good luck with this.  I have managed to install Ubuntu but you only get 
>>> a small window (which apparently is fixable but I didn't go there).  
>>> Networking is difficult and I could never get it to recognise my wifi 
>>> adapter.  You could always try and install an Ubuntu template from here: 
>>> https://qubes.3isec.org/Templates_4.0/  but that entails installing the 
>>> template in dom0 which I wasn't real keen on.  There is guide here on how 
>>> to do it.  Let me know if you can't find it and you want it.
>>>
>>> I also into the problems that you are citing.  I solved it by mucking 
>>> around with installing it on xvda then xvdb etc.  I changed the virtual 
>>> drive installation options and it worked.  But I'm just letting you know 
>>> that you will opening a door to some more challenges.  I was trying to 
>>> install Ubuntu because I know it and I can set up my printers etc, but I 
>>> gave up and went through the learning of doing all of this on a Fedora 
>>> template in qubes which was a better result anyway.
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>>> Good luck.  Let us know how you go.  
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>> 1)  Thanks for the optimistic view. :)
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>> 2)  Regarding the small window: Have you tried to change the screen 
>> resolutions in Ubuntu ? - althou

[qubes-users] Re: How to get Ubuntu 18.04 running in a HVM with a GUI desktop in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

2020-03-16 Thread 'M' via qubes-users

mandag den 16. marts 2020 kl. 18.48.13 UTC+1 skrev redpo...@gmail.com:
>
> Good luck with this.  I have managed to install Ubuntu but you only get a 
> small window (which apparently is fixable but I didn't go there).  
> Networking is difficult and I could never get it to recognise my wifi 
> adapter.  You could always try and install an Ubuntu template from here: 
> https://qubes.3isec.org/Templates_4.0/  but that entails installing the 
> template in dom0 which I wasn't real keen on.  There is guide here on how 
> to do it.  Let me know if you can't find it and you want it.
>
> I also into the problems that you are citing.  I solved it by mucking 
> around with installing it on xvda then xvdb etc.  I changed the virtual 
> drive installation options and it worked.  But I'm just letting you know 
> that you will opening a door to some more challenges.  I was trying to 
> install Ubuntu because I know it and I can set up my printers etc, but I 
> gave up and went through the learning of doing all of this on a Fedora 
> template in qubes which was a better result anyway.
>
> Good luck.  Let us know how you go.  
>


1)  Thanks for the optimistic view. :)

2)  Regarding the small window: Have you tried to change the screen 
resolutions in Ubuntu ? - although you can't get full screen, it should be 
possible to get it at least almost full screen. It works in both Windows 
10, Linux Mint and Debian 10.3.

3)  For me it's fine if just I can get on the internet from within Ubuntu 
by using a cable connection ? - I haven't been able to get it working in a 
Debian GUI HVM, but at least in a Windows 10 and Linux Mint HVM. But I 
would like to install a program that only works with Debian and Ubuntu, so 
I need to at least get either Debian or Ubuntu to work and being able to 
connect to the internet.

4)  Thanks for the link. For me this one sounds relevant: 
https://qubes.3isec.org/Templates_4.0/qubes-template-bionic-desktop-4.0.1-202001121248.noarch.rpm
  
as I guess it has a desktop with a GUI.
 To use it, shall I then just download it to a VM, copy it to dom0 by 
executing this command; qvm-run -p  "cat '/home/user/Downloads/
qubes-template-bionic-desktop-4.0.1-202001121248.noarch.rpm'" > 
qubes-template-bionic-desktop-4.0.1-202001121248.noarch.rpm  I guess "
" shall be replaced by the name of the new template, is that 
correct ?
 And do I then just need to run this command to execute the file and 
get the template created with a GUI desktop: chmod +x 
qubes-template-bionic-desktop-4.0.1-202001121248.noarch.rpm && ./
qubes-template-bionic-desktop-4.0.1-202001121248.noarch.rpm ?

5)  Do I understand you correctly, that you installed Ubuntu as LVM, and 
that worked... ? - If so, what options did you change. to make it work ? - 
Then I might try that first.


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[qubes-users] How to get Ubuntu 18.04 running in a HVM with a GUI desktop in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

2020-03-16 Thread 'M' via qubes-users

How to get Ubuntu 18.04 running in a HVM with a GUI desktop in Qubes OS
4.0.3 ?

I hope to get an answer from the Qubes OS users who have experience in
using Ubuntu in Qubes OS.

I got this error since the first time I restarted the HVM after the
installation of Ubuntu 18.04:

"FAILED to start User Manager for UID 121...
...
Removed slice User Slice of gdm.
Created slice User Slice of gdm.
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FAILED to start User Manager for UID 121
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Started Session c... of user gdm.
Started User Manager for UID 121.
Stopped User Manager for UID 121
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Removed slice User Slice of gdm.
Created slice User Slice of gdm.
...
Started Hold until boot process finishes up."

[Then nothing more happens]

Here is a description of what I have done to install Ubuntu 18.04:

1) Downloaded Ubuntu 18.04 from ubuntu.com to a VM.

2) Clicked on "Create Qubes VM" in the Qubes Menu.

3) Gave the HVM a name, chose "Empty standalone qube (install your own
OS)" and selected "launch settings after creation".

4) In "Qube Settings": Set "System storage max. size" to 50.240 MiB,
clicked on Advanced and set "Initial memory" to 4000 MiB, clicked on
"Apply" and then click on "Boot qube from CDROM" and chose the VM and the
ISO-file and clicked on apply.

5) Chose "Install" in the Grub menu in the newly appeared window.

6) Followed the installation guide and chose "Full format and
installation".

7) Restarted the HVM afterwards.

I hope to get some suggestions on how to get further.

[qubes-users] How to in Qubes 4.0.3 create a Debian 10 HVM with a GUI desktop that is able to connect to the internet ?

How to in Qubes 4.0.3 create a Debian 10 HVM with a GUI desktop that is 
able to connect to the internet ?

In case you would like to know, the primary purpose of this is: To install 
the newest version of a music player app like Musique, Rhytmbox, 
Gmusicbrowser, QMMP or Sayonara player (I haven't decided yet which one I 
would like to use) so that the PC also can be used to handle large 
multimedia library's on external storage drives in a quite secure way with 
the digital sound-signal being transferred thru an USB-cable to an external 
DAC.

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Re: [qubes-users] How to setup Win10 HVM ?

How to setup a Win 10 HVM according to this page:
https://github.com/elliotkillick/qvm-create-windows-qube
?

See below for my detailed description on how to use this method:

1) Open your Firefox browser in a VM - for example in the untrusted VM.

2) To save the install.sh script file: Open this page:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/elliotkillick/qvm-create-windows-qube/master/install.sh

and save it as install.sh

3) To copy the file to dom0: Open the dom0 terminal and execute this
command: qvm-run -p --filter-escape-chars --no-color-output untrusted "cat
'/home/user/Downloads/install.sh'" > install.sh

4) To check that the file is copied to dom0: Execute this command in the
dom0 terminal: ls

5) To get Qubes OS to execute the script in the "install.sh" file: Execute
this command in the dom0 terminal: chmod +x install.sh && ./install.sh

6) Download the version of Windows 10 you want to use to the
"windows-mgmt" VM.
You can execute the script in the file "download-windows.sh , but it
might not work - I couldn't make it work. In that case, do the following:

6a) Open the “Qube Settings” for the domain “windows-mgmt”. Under
“Network”, choose the “default” one and click on “Apply”.

6b) Open the domains Firefox browser and search the web for “how to
download windows 10”.
One of the first results is a link to a Microsoft webpage from
which it is possible to download the file in the local language.
The file gets downloaded to the download folder in the domain.

6c) Open the “Qube Settings” for the domain “windows-mgmt”. Under
“Network”, choose “(none)” and click on “Apply”.

6d) Move or copy the downloaded Win10 ISO-file to this destination:
/Documents/qvm-create-windows-qube/windows-media/isos

6e) Open the terminal in dom0 and execute the following script
(remember to write the name of the ISO-file you downloaded in step 6b
instead of “filename”): ./qvm-create-windows-qube.sh -n sys-whonix -oyw -i
filename.iso -a win10x64-pro.xml Win10
Info: "Win10" will be the name of the domain.
Do not close the terminal before it says the installation was
complete (successfully) ! Let the terminal do the job, it restarts the
qube and so on when it is necessary.

7) When you get into Windows there might appear three message boxes. One
saying that the pc has to be restarted. A second one saying that drive D
has to be formatted. And the third one saying something about a private
drive. Just click on "OK". Then Windows will close immediately and restart.
Afterwards the terminal should write that the installation was completed
successfully.
When Windows start up again you probably do not have a functioning
internet connection.

8) To get on the internet: Shut down the Win10 HVM and start it again.

Now your Win10 HVM should act almost as a normal Win 10 installation.

[qubes-users] Re: How to install qubes tools on Windows 10?

søndag den 15. marts 2020 kl. 07.04.34 UTC+1 skrev Guerlan:
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> I bootem my machine with the .iso and started the .exe, but I get
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> somethig like that.
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> How to install on Windows 10?
>
 


See here: https://github.com/elliotkillick/qvm-create-windows-qube 



See below for a detailed description on how to use this method:

1)  Open your Firefox browser in a VM - for example in the untrusted VM.

2)  To save the install.sh script file:  Open this page: 
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/elliotkillick/qvm-create-windows-qube/master/install.sh
 
and save it as install.sh 

3)  To copy the file to dom0: Open the dom0 terminal and execute this 
command:  qvm-run -p --filter-escape-chars --no-color-output untrusted "cat 
'/home/user/Downloads/install.sh'" > install.sh

4)  To check that the file is copied to dom0: Execute this command in the 
dom0 terminal: ls

5)  To get Qubes OS to execute the script in the "install.sh" file: Execute 
this command in the dom0 terminal: chmod +x install.sh && ./install.sh

6)  Download the version of Windows 10 you want to use to the 
"windows-mgmt" VM.
 You can execute the script in the file "download-windows.sh , but it 
might not work - I couldn't make it work. In that case, do the following: 

 6a)  Open the “Qube Settings” for the domain “windows-mgmt”. Under 
“Network”, choose the “default” one and click on “Apply”. 

 6b)  Open the domains Firefox browser and search the web for “how to 
download windows 10”. 
One of the first results is a link to a Microsoft webpage from 
which it is possible to download the file in the local language. 
The file gets downloaded to the download folder in the domain. 

 6c)  Open the “Qube Settings” for the domain “windows-mgmt”. Under 
“Network”, choose “(none)” and click on “Apply”. 

 6d)  Move or copy the downloaded Win10 ISO-file to this destination: 
/Documents/qvm-create-windows-qube/windows-media/isos 

 6e)  Open the terminal in dom0 and execute the following script 
(remember to write the name of the ISO-file you downloaded in step 6b 
instead of “filename”): ./qvm-create-windows-qube.sh -n sys-whonix -oyw -i 
filename.iso -a win10x64-pro.xml Win10 
Info: "Win10" will be the name of the domain.
Do not close the terminal before it says the installation was 
complete (successfully) !  Let the terminal do the job, it restarts the 
qube and so on when it is necessary. 

7)  When you get into Windows there might appear three message boxes. One 
saying that the pc has to be restarted. A second one saying that drive D 
has to be formatted. And the third one saying something about a private 
drive. Just click on "OK". Then Windows will close immediately and restart. 
Afterwards the terminal should write that the installation was completed 
successfully.
 When Windows start up again you probably do not have a functioning 
internet connection.

8)  To get on the internet: Shut down the Win10 HVM and start it again.

Now your Win10 HVM should act almost as a normal Win 10 installation.

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[qubes-users] Re: How much RAM does the dom0, sys-firewall and sys-whonix "normally" use ?

By "stall" or "stalling" I mean freeze.

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[qubes-users] How much RAM does the dom0, sys-firewall and sys-whonix "normally" use ?

How much RAM does the dom0, sys-firewall and sys-whonix "normally" use ?

I ask because these VM's seems to use quite a lot of RAM on my PC (of cause
a little more or less depending on the activity level):

dom0: About 4000 MB
sys-firewall: About 3000 MB
sys-whonix: About 4000 MB

That means just those three VM's use about 11000 MB of ram.

sys-net: About 400 MB
sys-usb: About 300 MB

Sum: About 700 MB

Sum so far: About 12000 MB

This is when I only have one other Fedora VM open which use about 4000 MB
of RAM (and that is when I only use Firefox).

That means about 16000 MB of RAM used.

If I open the file manager in another Fedora VM it uses about 2000 MB and
if I instead open the Firefox browser in this VM it uses about 3000 MB of
RAM.

In the last scenario the RAM use for all open VM's is as follow:

dom0: About 4000 MB
sys-firewall: About 1600 MB
sys-whonix: About 2200 MB
sys-net: About 400 MB
sys-usb: About 300 MB
Fedora VM: About 4000 MB
Fedora VM: About 3000 MB

SUM: About 15500 MB of RAM

Sometimes I experience my untrusted Fedora VM stall. I assume it's because
of to little amount of RAM at disposal. But I'm not sure.

In this PC I got 16 GB of RAM, but wonder if I shall install at least 16 GB
more.

And if this is normally behavior, it seems to me that the recommendation in
relation to RAM should be 32 GB of RAM instead of only 16 GB, although the
used amount of RAM for some VM's varies according to the amount of RAM at
disposal.

Does your Qubes OS 4.0.3 use about the same amount of RAM as mine, and do
you also sometimes experience that your Firefox browser stall ?

Re: [qubes-users] How to get on the internet from within a Debian 10.3 HVM, when Debian says that it is connected to the network, but can't get on the internet by using Firefox from within the Debian

"instilling" = installing

Sorry.

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Re: [qubes-users] How to get on the internet from within a Debian 10.3 HVM, when Debian says that it is connected to the network, but can't get on the internet by using Firefox from within the Debian

søndag den 15. marts 2020 kl. 07.34.40 UTC+1 skrev Frank Schäckermann:
>
>
>
> On 14. Mar 2020, at 21:06, 'M' via qubes-users 
> qubes-users-at-googlegroups.com |qubes-mailing-list/Example Allow| <
> 8cpxf...@sneakemail.com > wrote:
>
> 
> How to get on the internet from within a Debian 10.3 HVM, when Debian says 
> that it is connected to the network, but can't get on the internet by using 
> Firefox from within the Debian HVM ?
>
> I have created the Debian HVM by first downloading the DVD 1 file from 
> here: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/ to a 
> VM. Then create a new HVM by using the GUI and boot the ISO-file from 
> another VM.
>
>
> Is there a specific reason why you didn’t use the Debian template Qubes 
> provides already? You can create a HVM from the Debian template and be all 
> set...
>
> And the installation run successful (without internet connection) 
> according to the installer. After the installation I logged in to Debian 
> 10.3, and then set up the network by writing the correct IP, netmask and 
> gateway address according to the same HVM's "Qube Settings". And I have 
> pressed "On" in the menu bar so that Debian says that it is connected to 
> the cable network. But I still can't get on the internet. For example if I 
> open Firefox, and write "test" in the html field, Firefox tell me that it 
> can't connect to the server. And it is from the same pc I'm making this 
> thread, so Qubes OS is connected to the internet.
>
> I should probably also mention that I haven't installed any Qubes-tools 
> yet. In case I should try that, please write which packages I shall install 
> and where I can find them.
>
> So I would like some suggestions on what I shall do to get on the internet 
> by using Firefox from within the Debian HVM ?
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I installed Debian 10.3 in this way, because I would like to get a GUI of 
the Debian OS with it's desktop, menus, etc. so that I could install 
programs in Debian by using a GUI and also easier use its programs.

I read about instilling Debian as a OS in Qubes here: 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/debian/ . But got the impression 
that it was without a Debian desktop, menus, etc. as it isn't mentioned on 
the page. But I may have got a wrong impression.

I have also looked here: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/standalone-and-hvm/ . 
But I didn't find anything about this either.

Therefore I tried to install Debian 10.3 in a HVM the same way other Linux 
OS' would have to be installed in Qubes OS.

If I can install Debian 10.3 as a minimal OS with a desktop, menus, etc. 
and get it on the internet from within the Debian HVM by installing Debian 
OS in another way, I would certainly try it. Can I do that just by 
following the guide on this page: 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/debian/ or shall I also do some 
other things and if so what ?

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[qubes-users] How to get on the internet from within a Debian 10.3 HVM, when Debian says that it is connected to the network, but can't get on the internet by using Firefox from within the Debian HVM

2020-03-14 Thread 'M' via qubes-users

How to get on the internet from within a Debian 10.3 HVM, when Debian says
that it is connected to the network, but can't get on the internet by using
Firefox from within the Debian HVM ?

I have created the Debian HVM by first downloading the DVD 1 file from
here: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/ to a VM.
Then create a new HVM by using the GUI and boot the ISO-file from another
VM. And the installation run successful (without internet connection)
according to the installer. After the installation I logged in to Debian
10.3, and then set up the network by writing the correct IP, netmask and
gateway address according to the same HVM's "Qube Settings". And I have
pressed "On" in the menu bar so that Debian says that it is connected to
the cable network. But I still can't get on the internet. For example if I
open Firefox, and write "test" in the html field, Firefox tell me that it
can't connect to the server. And it is from the same pc I'm making this
thread, so Qubes OS is connected to the internet.

I should probably also mention that I haven't installed any Qubes-tools
yet. In case I should try that, please write which packages I shall install
and where I can find them.

So I would like some suggestions on what I shall do to get on the internet
by using Firefox from within the Debian HVM ?

Re: [qubes-users] How to install and get Linux Mint running in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

søndag den 16. februar 2020 kl. 02.50.13 UTC+1 skrev unman:
>
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 07:50:53AM -0800, A wrote: 
> > 1)  How to install and get Linux Mint running in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ? 
> > 
> Download a mint iso in to a qube - make sure you have enough space to do 
> this - up Private storage size if needed. 
>
> Create an HVM and boot it from a Mint iso. (Instructions on this can be 
> found here - https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/standalone-and-hvm/ ) 
> Or use the GUI - in Qube Manager, select Qube - "Create New qube". 
> Give it name and set type "Empty  Standalone qube.." 
> Select "open Settings after creation." 
> In Settings window go to Advanced pane and set initial memory to 4000MB 
> - you can always reduce after installation. 
> Then select "Boot qube from CDROM" button, and select the qube where you 
> downloaded the Mint iso. 
> On start you should see Mint boot in live mode. 
> Note the IP address of the new mint qube (either from Qube Manager , or 
> using `qvm-ls -n ` 
> Edit the Network settings for ipv4 to "manual" and enter the IP address 
> and gateway. For DNS you can use 9.9.9.9 
> Select option to install to disk. 
>
> After installation, shutdown the qube. 
> Restart. 
> Your new Mint qube should start up. 
> If you get a black screen, kill it. In terminal in dom0 , use 
> `qvm-features  video-model cirrus` and restart. 
>
> Since Mint is based off Ubuntu, you can try installing some qubes 
> packages built for Ubuntu , to et copy/paste etc working. (I have 
> packages at qubes.3isec.org you could try, but I haven't tested this 
> myself - i suggest you get Mint running properly, then clone it and try 
> installing packages in to the clone.) 
>
> > 2)  Is it possible to use Linux Mint for surfing the net in a secure 
> way, and if so how ? 
> > 
>
> ???
>

Here is a detailed guide to install Linux Mint in Qubes OS 4.0.3:

1)  Open the "Qubes Settings" of the domain from where you will download 
Linux Mint and expand the private max. storage size to 3 GiB larger than 
the existing storage size (just to be certain that you have enough storage 
space for the ISO file - else the download process will stop somewhere on 
the way).

2)  Open the domains Firefox browser and download Linux Mint from 
https://linuxmint.com/ 

3)  Click on "Create Qubes VM" in the Qubes Menu.

4)  Give the HVM a name, choose "Empty standalone qube (install your own 
OS)" and select "launch settings after creation".

5)  In "Qube Settings": Set "System storage max. size" to 20.240 MiB, click 
on Advanced and set "Initial memory" to 4000 MiB, click on "Apply" and then 
click on "Boot qube from CDROM" and choose the Vm and the ISO-file and 
clicke on apply.

6)  Choose "Start Linux Mint" in the Grub menu in the newly appeared 
window. 

7)  Click on the "Install Mint" icon on the desktop of Linux Mint and 
follow the installation guide.

8)  Choose to make a format and full installation on the sda drive and 
finish the installation guide.

9)  Restart Linux Mint.

10)  Press ENTER when you see a message appear that you has to press Enter 
when you have detached the installation media.

11)  Start the Linux Mint HVM up again and a new window appear.

 If there after a short time appears a white cursor that just continues 
blinking/flashing, then:
  a)  Shut the Linux Mint HVM down
  b)  Open the dom0 terminal
  c)  Execute this command: "qvm-features  video-model 
cirrus"
  d)  Start the Linux Mint HVM again.

12)  Open the network manager, go into the settings for the registered 
connection, go to IPv4-settings, choose "Manual" as "Method" and add a new 
one and write the IP, Netmask and Gateway address that is found in the 
"QubeSettings" for the HVM.

13)  To pass thru a USB device to Linux Mint, read here: 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/standalone-and-hvm/#assigning-pci-devices-to-hvms 

14)  Remaining: Making it possible to copy and pass content between the 
Linux Mint HVM and other VM's.

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Re: [qubes-users] How to install and get Linux Mint running in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

torsdag den 12. marts 2020 kl. 18.59.29 UTC+1 skrev M:
>
> søndag den 16. februar 2020 kl. 02.50.13 UTC+1 skrev unman:
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 07:50:53AM -0800, A wrote: 
>> > 1)  How to install and get Linux Mint running in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ? 
>> > 
>> Download a mint iso in to a qube - make sure you have enough space to do 
>> this - up Private storage size if needed. 
>>
>> Create an HVM and boot it from a Mint iso. (Instructions on this can be 
>> found here - https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/standalone-and-hvm/ ) 
>> Or use the GUI - in Qube Manager, select Qube - "Create New qube". 
>> Give it name and set type "Empty  Standalone qube.." 
>> Select "open Settings after creation." 
>> In Settings window go to Advanced pane and set initial memory to 4000MB 
>> - you can always reduce after installation. 
>> Then select "Boot qube from CDROM" button, and select the qube where you 
>> downloaded the Mint iso. 
>> On start you should see Mint boot in live mode. 
>> Note the IP address of the new mint qube (either from Qube Manager , or 
>> using `qvm-ls -n ` 
>> Edit the Network settings for ipv4 to "manual" and enter the IP address 
>> and gateway. For DNS you can use 9.9.9.9 
>> Select option to install to disk. 
>>
>> After installation, shutdown the qube. 
>> Restart. 
>> Your new Mint qube should start up. 
>> If you get a black screen, kill it. In terminal in dom0 , use 
>> `qvm-features  video-model cirrus` and restart. 
>>
>> Since Mint is based off Ubuntu, you can try installing some qubes 
>> packages built for Ubuntu , to et copy/paste etc working. (I have 
>> packages at qubes.3isec.org 
>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fqubes.3isec.org=D=1=AFQjCNFfSjj3sbEhsz_4d4n07IvnM9O8WQ>
>>  
>> you could try, but I haven't tested this 
>> myself - i suggest you get Mint running properly, then clone it and try 
>> installing packages in to the clone.) 
>>
>> > 2)  Is it possible to use Linux Mint for surfing the net in a secure 
>> way, and if so how ? 
>> > 
>>
>> ??? 
>>
>  
>
> Which packages (from qubes.3isec.org 
> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fqubes.3isec.org=D=1=AFQjCNFfSjj3sbEhsz_4d4n07IvnM9O8WQ>
>  
> or other places) shall I install to be able to:
>
> 1)  Use copy and paste together with Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?
>
> 2)  Pass thru a USB device to Linux Mint ?
>


2)  For an answer, read here: 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/standalone-and-hvm/#assigning-pci-devices-to-hvms

Then I only need an answer to the first question.

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Re: [qubes-users] How to install and get Linux Mint running in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

torsdag den 12. marts 2020 kl. 18.33.36 UTC+1 skrev redpo...@gmail.com:
>
> Its great to see you posting unmnan.
>
> I have downloaded some of your other templates but I can't get them 
> working and I've posted on numerous forums and no one can or will help me.
>
> I wonder if you'd post a similar how to for your .rpm templates?  I just 
> don't know what to do with them  I've managed to copy them into a folder in 
> 'personal' domain and when I go to install them (dnf install...etc) I keep 
> being told I need about 200mb more space but for the life of me I don't 
> know where this space needs to be freed up.  If you could do an 
> instructional post, or point me in the direction of how to install it would 
> be great.
>


Have you first tried to get some more space on the system drive... First by 
going into the Qube Settings for the HVM and then afterwords use a 
partition GUI (or the terminal) inside the HVM to expand the capacity of 
the used drive ?

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Re: [qubes-users] How to install and get Linux Mint running in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

søndag den 16. februar 2020 kl. 02.50.13 UTC+1 skrev unman:
>
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 07:50:53AM -0800, A wrote: 
> > 1)  How to install and get Linux Mint running in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ? 
> > 
> Download a mint iso in to a qube - make sure you have enough space to do 
> this - up Private storage size if needed. 
>
> Create an HVM and boot it from a Mint iso. (Instructions on this can be 
> found here - https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/standalone-and-hvm/ ) 
> Or use the GUI - in Qube Manager, select Qube - "Create New qube". 
> Give it name and set type "Empty  Standalone qube.." 
> Select "open Settings after creation." 
> In Settings window go to Advanced pane and set initial memory to 4000MB 
> - you can always reduce after installation. 
> Then select "Boot qube from CDROM" button, and select the qube where you 
> downloaded the Mint iso. 
> On start you should see Mint boot in live mode. 
> Note the IP address of the new mint qube (either from Qube Manager , or 
> using `qvm-ls -n ` 
> Edit the Network settings for ipv4 to "manual" and enter the IP address 
> and gateway. For DNS you can use 9.9.9.9 
> Select option to install to disk. 
>
> After installation, shutdown the qube. 
> Restart. 
> Your new Mint qube should start up. 
> If you get a black screen, kill it. In terminal in dom0 , use 
> `qvm-features  video-model cirrus` and restart. 
>
> Since Mint is based off Ubuntu, you can try installing some qubes 
> packages built for Ubuntu , to et copy/paste etc working. (I have 
> packages at qubes.3isec.org 
> 
>  
> you could try, but I haven't tested this 
> myself - i suggest you get Mint running properly, then clone it and try 
> installing packages in to the clone.) 
>
> > 2)  Is it possible to use Linux Mint for surfing the net in a secure 
> way, and if so how ? 
> > 
>
> ??? 
>
 

Which packages (from qubes.3isec.org 

 
or other places) shall I install to be able to:

1)  Use copy and paste together with Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

2)  Pass thru a USB device to Linux Mint ?

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Re: [qubes-users] How to install and get Linux Mint running in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

torsdag den 12. marts 2020 kl. 15.16.08 UTC+1 skrev M:
>
> torsdag den 12. marts 2020 kl. 12.57.33 UTC+1 skrev M:
>>
>> søndag den 16. februar 2020 kl. 02.50.13 UTC+1 skrev unman:
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 07:50:53AM -0800, A wrote: 
>>> > 1)  How to install and get Linux Mint running in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ? 
>>> > 
>>> Download a mint iso in to a qube - make sure you have enough space to do 
>>> this - up Private storage size if needed. 
>>>
>>> Create an HVM and boot it from a Mint iso. (Instructions on this can be 
>>> found here - https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/standalone-and-hvm/ ) 
>>> Or use the GUI - in Qube Manager, select Qube - "Create New qube". 
>>> Give it name and set type "Empty  Standalone qube.." 
>>> Select "open Settings after creation." 
>>> In Settings window go to Advanced pane and set initial memory to 4000MB 
>>> - you can always reduce after installation. 
>>> Then select "Boot qube from CDROM" button, and select the qube where you 
>>> downloaded the Mint iso. 
>>> On start you should see Mint boot in live mode. 
>>> Note the IP address of the new mint qube (either from Qube Manager , or 
>>> using `qvm-ls -n ` 
>>> Edit the Network settings for ipv4 to "manual" and enter the IP address 
>>> and gateway. For DNS you can use 9.9.9.9 
>>> Select option to install to disk. 
>>>
>>> After installation, shutdown the qube. 
>>> Restart. 
>>> Your new Mint qube should start up. 
>>> If you get a black screen, kill it. In terminal in dom0 , use 
>>> `qvm-features  video-model cirrus` and restart. 
>>>
>>> Since Mint is based off Ubuntu, you can try installing some qubes 
>>> packages built for Ubuntu , to et copy/paste etc working. (I have 
>>> packages at qubes.3isec.org you could try, but I haven't tested this 
>>> myself - i suggest you get Mint running properly, then clone it and try 
>>> installing packages in to the clone.) 
>>>
>>> > 2)  Is it possible to use Linux Mint for surfing the net in a secure 
>>> way, and if so how ? 
>>> > 
>>>
>>> ??? 
>>>
>>  
>>
>>
>> Where shall I "Edit the Network settings for ipv4 to "manual" and enter 
>> the IP address and gateway. For DNS you can use 9.9.9.9" ?
>>
>  
>
> I have also tried to find the answer here: 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/standalone-and-hvm/#setting-up-networking-for-hvms
>
> But the guide stops before mention it.
>


Arh. Now it suddenly works.

In Linux Mint: Open the network manager, go into the settings for the 
registered connection, go to IPv4-settings, choose "Manual" as "Method" and 
add a new one and write the IP, Netmask and Gateway address that is found 
in the "QubeSettings" for the HVM.

First I got a message saying that the Gateway address was invalid. But 
after deleting the other empty address lines and clicked on "Save", the 
message disappeared and I got a message instead saying that a network 
connection was established. 

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Re: [qubes-users] How to install and get Linux Mint running in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

torsdag den 12. marts 2020 kl. 12.57.33 UTC+1 skrev M:
>
> søndag den 16. februar 2020 kl. 02.50.13 UTC+1 skrev unman:
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 07:50:53AM -0800, A wrote: 
>> > 1)  How to install and get Linux Mint running in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ? 
>> > 
>> Download a mint iso in to a qube - make sure you have enough space to do 
>> this - up Private storage size if needed. 
>>
>> Create an HVM and boot it from a Mint iso. (Instructions on this can be 
>> found here - https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/standalone-and-hvm/ ) 
>> Or use the GUI - in Qube Manager, select Qube - "Create New qube". 
>> Give it name and set type "Empty  Standalone qube.." 
>> Select "open Settings after creation." 
>> In Settings window go to Advanced pane and set initial memory to 4000MB 
>> - you can always reduce after installation. 
>> Then select "Boot qube from CDROM" button, and select the qube where you 
>> downloaded the Mint iso. 
>> On start you should see Mint boot in live mode. 
>> Note the IP address of the new mint qube (either from Qube Manager , or 
>> using `qvm-ls -n ` 
>> Edit the Network settings for ipv4 to "manual" and enter the IP address 
>> and gateway. For DNS you can use 9.9.9.9 
>> Select option to install to disk. 
>>
>> After installation, shutdown the qube. 
>> Restart. 
>> Your new Mint qube should start up. 
>> If you get a black screen, kill it. In terminal in dom0 , use 
>> `qvm-features  video-model cirrus` and restart. 
>>
>> Since Mint is based off Ubuntu, you can try installing some qubes 
>> packages built for Ubuntu , to et copy/paste etc working. (I have 
>> packages at qubes.3isec.org you could try, but I haven't tested this 
>> myself - i suggest you get Mint running properly, then clone it and try 
>> installing packages in to the clone.) 
>>
>> > 2)  Is it possible to use Linux Mint for surfing the net in a secure 
>> way, and if so how ? 
>> > 
>>
>> ??? 
>>
>  
>
>
> Where shall I "Edit the Network settings for ipv4 to "manual" and enter 
> the IP address and gateway. For DNS you can use 9.9.9.9" ?
>
 

I have also tried to find the answer here: 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/standalone-and-hvm/#setting-up-networking-for-hvms

But the guide stops before mention it.

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Re: [qubes-users] How to install and get Linux Mint running in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

søndag den 16. februar 2020 kl. 02.50.13 UTC+1 skrev unman:
>
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 07:50:53AM -0800, A wrote: 
> > 1)  How to install and get Linux Mint running in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ? 
> > 
> Download a mint iso in to a qube - make sure you have enough space to do 
> this - up Private storage size if needed. 
>
> Create an HVM and boot it from a Mint iso. (Instructions on this can be 
> found here - https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/standalone-and-hvm/ ) 
> Or use the GUI - in Qube Manager, select Qube - "Create New qube". 
> Give it name and set type "Empty  Standalone qube.." 
> Select "open Settings after creation." 
> In Settings window go to Advanced pane and set initial memory to 4000MB 
> - you can always reduce after installation. 
> Then select "Boot qube from CDROM" button, and select the qube where you 
> downloaded the Mint iso. 
> On start you should see Mint boot in live mode. 
> Note the IP address of the new mint qube (either from Qube Manager , or 
> using `qvm-ls -n ` 
> Edit the Network settings for ipv4 to "manual" and enter the IP address 
> and gateway. For DNS you can use 9.9.9.9 
> Select option to install to disk. 
>
> After installation, shutdown the qube. 
> Restart. 
> Your new Mint qube should start up. 
> If you get a black screen, kill it. In terminal in dom0 , use 
> `qvm-features  video-model cirrus` and restart. 
>
> Since Mint is based off Ubuntu, you can try installing some qubes 
> packages built for Ubuntu , to et copy/paste etc working. (I have 
> packages at qubes.3isec.org you could try, but I haven't tested this 
> myself - i suggest you get Mint running properly, then clone it and try 
> installing packages in to the clone.) 
>
> > 2)  Is it possible to use Linux Mint for surfing the net in a secure 
> way, and if so how ? 
> > 
>
> ??? 
>
 


Where shall I "Edit the Network settings for ipv4 to "manual" and enter the 
IP address and gateway. For DNS you can use 9.9.9.9" ?

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Re: [qubes-users] How to install and get Linux Mint running in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

søndag den 16. februar 2020 kl. 02.50.13 UTC+1 skrev unman:
>
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 07:50:53AM -0800, A wrote: 
> > 1)  How to install and get Linux Mint running in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ? 
> > 
> Download a mint iso in to a qube - make sure you have enough space to do 
> this - up Private storage size if needed. 
>
> Create an HVM and boot it from a Mint iso. (Instructions on this can be 
> found here - https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/standalone-and-hvm/ ) 
> Or use the GUI - in Qube Manager, select Qube - "Create New qube". 
> Give it name and set type "Empty  Standalone qube.." 
> Select "open Settings after creation." 
> In Settings window go to Advanced pane and set initial memory to 4000MB 
> - you can always reduce after installation. 
> Then select "Boot qube from CDROM" button, and select the qube where you 
> downloaded the Mint iso. 
> On start you should see Mint boot in live mode. 
> Note the IP address of the new mint qube (either from Qube Manager , or 
> using `qvm-ls -n ` 
> Edit the Network settings for ipv4 to "manual" and enter the IP address 
> and gateway. For DNS you can use 9.9.9.9 
> Select option to install to disk. 
>
> After installation, shutdown the qube. 
> Restart. 
> Your new Mint qube should start up. 
> If you get a black screen, kill it. In terminal in dom0 , use 
> `qvm-features  video-model cirrus` and restart. 
>
> Since Mint is based off Ubuntu, you can try installing some qubes 
> packages built for Ubuntu , to et copy/paste etc working. (I have 
> packages at qubes.3isec.org you could try, but I haven't tested this 
> myself - i suggest you get Mint running properly, then clone it and try 
> installing packages in to the clone.) 
>
> > 2)  Is it possible to use Linux Mint for surfing the net in a secure 
> way, and if so how ? 
> > 
>
> ???
>
 


The "System storage max. size" of the HVM should also be changed to 
something larger than 10.7 GB before beginning the installation, as the 
Linux Mint needs this amount of storage.

As you properly also would like to install some apps in Linux Mint, you may 
set it to at least 20.240 MiB on the same time. But it can of cause also be 
changed later.

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Re: [qubes-users] Is it recommended to install any anti-virus, anti-malware or anti-spyware apps in Qubes OS 4.0.3 or does Qubes OS takes care of all that ? - If not, which do you recommend ?

2020-03-11 Thread 'M' via qubes-users

onsdag den 11. marts 2020 kl. 00.42.05 UTC+1 skrev Tobias Gilberg:

Is it recommended to install any anti-virus, anti-malware or anti-spyware
apps in Qubes OS 4.0.3 or does Qubes OS takes care of all that ? - If not,
which do you recommend ?
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Hello

Qubes OS doesn't have integrated anti-malware stuff. It does protect you,
because the most malware will be deletet when you shut down the infected
AppVM (because changes in another folder than the home folder of the AppVM
will be deletet on shutdown). And the separation of you tasks and data in
different AppVMs protects you even if one of your AppVMs got compromised.
The QubesFirewall can protect you from spyware, if you set it up correctly
(in the AppVM settings under "Firewall rules" add only the domains that you
want to use in the specific AppVM).
Now knowing this its about you to decide if you need some anti-malware
apps. But consider also, that anti-malware apps are just normal programs
that check for known not good software. So they can't protect you from not
known malware (witch is easy to create), it increases also your attack
surface im a heavy way and many of anti-malware programs behave like
malware (e.g. running an person in the middle attack on your web
connections or sending information about whats on your computer (in your
case the AppVM) to the producer of the app.).

Thanks.

As a newbie I would like some guidance on how to set up the "QubesFirewall"
"correctly".

I have looked on the following pages, but didn't find any guidance on this.

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/firewall/
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-devel/niMbDhS_nWI
https://blog.invisiblethings.org/2011/09/28/playing-with-qubes-networking-for-fun.html

Re: [qubes-users] How to expand the amount of storage in a Win10 HVM ?

2020-03-11 Thread 'M' via qubes-users



tirsdag den 10. marts 2020 kl. 22.35.29 UTC+1 skrev M:
>
> Thanks a lot and for the very quick response. :)
>
>
>
> tirsdag den 10. marts 2020 kl. 22.19.49 UTC+1 skrev Sven Semmler:
>
>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 02:09:18PM -0700, 'M' via qubes-users wrote: 
>> > But how do I configure the amount of storage space manually ? 
>>
>> - start your Windows VM 
>> - open start menu and type 'disk' 
>> - select the 'create and format hard disk partitions' entry 
>> - when the 'Disk Management' starts it will prompt you about an 
>>   uninitalized disk. Cancel that dialog. 
>> - now you should see three disks. 
>>
>> - Disk 0 is the system disk 
>> - Disk 1 contains the private image / user files 
>> - Disk 2 ... leave that one alone 
>>
>> - if you enlarged the system area you will see free space after the 'c:' 
>>   partition. Right-click on 'c:' and choose 'Extend Volume...' 
>>   
>> - same works for 'D:' if you enlarged the private volume 
>>
>> /Sven 
>>
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>>
>  


There is also a guide here: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/resize-disk-image/
 

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Re: [qubes-users] How to expand the amount of storage in a Win10 HVM ?

Thanks a lot and for the very quick response. :)



tirsdag den 10. marts 2020 kl. 22.19.49 UTC+1 skrev Sven Semmler:

> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 02:09:18PM -0700, 'M' via qubes-users wrote: 
> > But how do I configure the amount of storage space manually ? 
>
> - start your Windows VM 
> - open start menu and type 'disk' 
> - select the 'create and format hard disk partitions' entry 
> - when the 'Disk Management' starts it will prompt you about an 
>   uninitalized disk. Cancel that dialog. 
> - now you should see three disks. 
>
> - Disk 0 is the system disk 
> - Disk 1 contains the private image / user files 
> - Disk 2 ... leave that one alone 
>
> - if you enlarged the system area you will see free space after the 'c:' 
>   partition. Right-click on 'c:' and choose 'Extend Volume...' 
>   
> - same works for 'D:' if you enlarged the private volume 
>
> /Sven 
>
> -- 
>  public key: https://www.svensemmler.org/0x8F541FB6.asc 
> fingerprint: D7CA F2DB 658D 89BC 08D6 A7AA DA6E 167B 8F54 1FB6
>

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[qubes-users] How to expand the amount of storage in a Win10 HVM ?

How to expand the amount of storage in a Win10 HVM ?

I have tried to go into "Qube Settings" of the Win10 HVM and under "System 
storage max. size" write 45.720 MiB. And then click apply. Then there 
appeared a message saying something like that I need to configure the 
amount of storage space manually.

But how do I configure the amount of storage space manually ?

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[qubes-users] Is it recommended to install any anti-virus, anti-malware or anti-spyware apps in Qubes OS 4.0.3 or does Qubes OS takes care of all that ? - If not, which do you recommend ?

Is it recommended to install any anti-virus, anti-malware or anti-spyware 
apps in Qubes OS 4.0.3 or does Qubes OS takes care of all that ? - If not, 
which do you recommend ?

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[qubes-users] Shall Microsoft firewall or other Microsoft security features be activated and used when using a Win10 HVM, and if so which features should be activated and used ?

Shall Microsoft firewall or other Microsoft security features be activated 
and used when using a Win10 HVM, and if so which features should be 
activated and used ?

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Re: [qubes-users] Why not make it possible to use a custom key combination for changing the keyboard layout when installing Qubes OS ?

torsdag den 5. marts 2020 kl. 14.19.59 UTC+1 skrev tetra...@danwin1210.me:
>
> On Thu, Mar 05, 2020 at 03:33:54AM -0800, A wrote: 
> >When installing Qubes OS, it’s possible to choose between some 
> predetermined key combinations for changing the keyboard layout. 
> > 
> >Why not also make it possible for the user to make his or her own key 
> >combination for changing the keyboard layout when installing Qubes OS ? 
>
> I still haven't figured out how to change the key combination once the 
> install is complete... 
>


You can't.

It's made as so as a security measure.

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[qubes-users] Is it possible to connect a USB device like a flash drive or CD-ROM drive to a Win10 HVM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 and if so how ?

2020-03-09 Thread 'M' via qubes-users

Is it possible to connect a USB device like a flash drive or CD-ROM drive 
to a Win10 HVM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 and if so how ?

When I plug a USB CD-ROM drive into the pc with Qubes OS 4.0.3 installed, I 
can see it appear as two devices under "Qubes Devices" (the device icon in 
the notification area). The first one appears as "sys-usb : 
Mass_Storage_Device" and the second one appears as "sys-usb:2-8 - 
USB2.0_External_Mass_Storage_Device_[NUMBER]".

I have tried to connect both to a Win10 HVM - one at a time. None of them 
show up under "This pc" or in Windows file manager.

Then I tried to connect both to my work-domain. I was only able to connect 
to the second one, and was able to see all the files on the device. So at 
least that seems to work.

I have then tried to copy a folder from the device by using secure copy and 
paste, and paste it into the Win10 HVM. Although Qubes OS said that the 
folder was copied, I couldn't paste it into the Win10 HVM.

So therefore my question is: Is it possible to connect a USB device like a 
flash drive or CD-ROM drive to a Win10 HVM and if so how ?

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Re: [qubes-users] How to setup Win10 HVM ?

tor. 13. feb. 2020 kl. 17.12 skrev unman :

> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 04:48:42PM +0100, M E wrote:
> > tor. 13. feb. 2020 kl. 13.54 skrev M E :
> >
> >
> > I have tried using the unsafe browser (as this domain also offer a file
> > manager as a shortcut) and safe the file in the domains download folder.
> > Here the file is suggested to be saved as ???install.sh???.
> >
> > And then I tried to execute the following script in dom0:
> >
> > qvm-run -p --filter-escape-chars --no-color-output
> >  "cat '/home/user/Downloads/install.sh'" >
> > install.sh
> >
> > But as expected, this part of the script has to be replaced by something
> > else:
> >
> > 
> >
> > I guess with something like a partition letter, but as I don???t know
> more
> > than this path; ???'/home/user/Downloads/install.sh'??? I need to be
> told what
> > I should write here instead.
> >
> > So what shall I replace it with ?
> >
>
> That's the *name* of the qube where the script is located.
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Thank you.

I have tried to execute it in the user dom0, both:

qvm-run -p --filter-escape-chars --no-color-output untrusted "cat
'/home/user/Downloads/install.sh'" > install.sh

and

qvm-run -p --filter-escape-chars --no-color-output “untrusted” "cat
'/home/user/Downloads/install.sh'" > install.sh

It doesn’t seem to do anything...

Shall I run it with root access instead, or what shall I do ?

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Re: [qubes-users] How to setup Win10 HVM ?

tor. 13. feb. 2020 kl. 13.54 skrev M E :

> tor. 13. feb. 2020 kl. 12.51 skrev M E :
>
>> tor. 13. feb. 2020 kl. 06.04 skrev awokd :
>>
>>> A:
>>> > I want to install Windows 10 from a DVD in a new HVM and have begin
>>> following this guide: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/windows-vm/
>>> >
>>> > It says:
>>> >
>>> > “Create a new Qube:
>>> > Name: Win10, Color: red
>>> > Standalone Qube not based on a template
>>> > Networking: sys-firewall (default)
>>> > Launch settings after creation: check
>>> > Click “OK”.”
>>> >
>>> > As I’m going to install Win 10 from a DVD, shall I then just follow
>>> the guide and choose “Launch settings after creation” or shall I choose
>>> “Install from device” ?
>>> >
>>> https://github.com/elliotkillick/qvm-create-windows-qube
>>>
>>> --
>>> - don't top post
>>> Mailing list etiquette:
>>> - trim quoted reply to only relevant portions
>>> - when possible, copy and paste text instead of screenshots
>>>
>>
>> Sorry, but I need a more detailed guide as I’m just a little bit more
>> skilled than a average Windows user and is both new to Linux and Qubes OS...
>>
>> 1)  Can I download the files using any domain-browser or do I have to use
>> a specific one ?
>>
>> 2)  Shall I save the installation script file with a specific name, and
>> if so what ?
>>
>> 3)  Where shall I save the installation script file ?
>>
>> 4)  Shall I really just copy the following code and execute it in dom0 or
>> shall I download the file install.sh first or change something in the code
>> and if so what ?
>>
>> qvm-run -p --filter-escape-chars --no-color-output
>>  "cat '/home/user/Downloads/install.sh'" >
>> install.sh
>>
>> 5)  I don’t get this: “Safer with escape character filtering enabled
>> above; qvm-run disables it by default when output is a file”.
>>   Shall I do something to enable “character filtering”, and if so
>> what ?
>>
>> 6)  I guess I then just have to execute this in dom0: “chmod +x
>> install.sh && ./install.sh”.
>>   Is that correct ?
>>
>> 7)  If all goes well, is this the only thing I need to do afterwards to
>> get Windows 10 up and running in Qubes OS 4.0.3... ?
>>   Put ”qubes-start.desktop into /usr/share/qubes-appmenus in Dom0 if
>> none is present“
>>
>
>> 2)  The link on the page is to the file “install.sh”, so I guess it
> should be named that.
>
> 3)  To this path:  “/home/user/Downloads/” (according to the command)
>
>

I have tried using the unsafe browser (as this domain also offer a file
manager as a shortcut) and safe the file in the domains download folder.
Here the file is suggested to be saved as “install.sh”.

And then I tried to execute the following script in dom0:

qvm-run -p --filter-escape-chars --no-color-output
 "cat '/home/user/Downloads/install.sh'" >
install.sh

But as expected, this part of the script has to be replaced by something
else:



I guess with something like a partition letter, but as I don’t know more
than this path; “'/home/user/Downloads/install.sh'” I need to be told what
I should write here instead.

So what shall I replace it with ?

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Re: [qubes-users] How to setup Win10 HVM ?

tor. 13. feb. 2020 kl. 12.51 skrev M E :

> tor. 13. feb. 2020 kl. 06.04 skrev awokd :
>
>> A:
>> > I want to install Windows 10 from a DVD in a new HVM and have begin
>> following this guide: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/windows-vm/
>> >
>> > It says:
>> >
>> > “Create a new Qube:
>> > Name: Win10, Color: red
>> > Standalone Qube not based on a template
>> > Networking: sys-firewall (default)
>> > Launch settings after creation: check
>> > Click “OK”.”
>> >
>> > As I’m going to install Win 10 from a DVD, shall I then just follow the
>> guide and choose “Launch settings after creation” or shall I choose
>> “Install from device” ?
>> >
>> https://github.com/elliotkillick/qvm-create-windows-qube
>>
>> --
>> - don't top post
>> Mailing list etiquette:
>> - trim quoted reply to only relevant portions
>> - when possible, copy and paste text instead of screenshots
>>
>
> Sorry, but I need a more detailed guide as I’m just a little bit more
> skilled than a average Windows user and is both new to Linux and Qubes OS...
>
> 1)  Can I download the files using any domain-browser or do I have to use
> a specific one ?
>
> 2)  Shall I save the installation script file with a specific name, and if
> so what ?
>
> 3)  Where shall I save the installation script file ?
>
> 4)  Shall I really just copy the following code and execute it in dom0 or
> shall I download the file install.sh first or change something in the code
> and if so what ?
>
> qvm-run -p --filter-escape-chars --no-color-output
>  "cat '/home/user/Downloads/install.sh'" >
> install.sh
>
> 5)  I don’t get this: “Safer with escape character filtering enabled
> above; qvm-run disables it by default when output is a file”.
>   Shall I do something to enable “character filtering”, and if so what
> ?
>
> 6)  I guess I then just have to execute this in dom0: “chmod +x
> install.sh && ./install.sh”.
>   Is that correct ?
>
> 7)  If all goes well, is this the only thing I need to do afterwards to
> get Windows 10 up and running in Qubes OS 4.0.3... ?
>   Put ”qubes-start.desktop into /usr/share/qubes-appmenus in Dom0 if
> none is present“
>
> 2)  The link on the page is to the file “install.sh”, so I guess it
should be named that.

3)  To this path:  “/home/user/Downloads/” (according to the command)

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Re: [qubes-users] How to setup Win10 HVM ?