Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes 4.0 sluggish feel

[Outback Dingo]

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 1:14 PM 'awokd' via qubes-users
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>
> On Mon, August 13, 2018 11:03 am, CF wrote:
> > On 08/13/2018 12:41 PM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:
> >
>
> >>
> >> Have you checked the logs to see if X is using software rendering
> >> and/or the video driver is throwing any errors on load?
> >>
> >>
> > I have not checked, I simply noticed that the move from 4.9.56 to
> > 4.14.57 was bringing all the fixes for Spectre / Meltdown, and I suspect
> > they are responsible for the 'sluggish feel' (Q3.2 here, not 4.0)
> >
> > I can check for rendering and video driver, which logs are you talking
> > about exactly?
>
> X.org log is described here:
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/intel-igfx-troubleshooting/#software-rendering-or-video-lags
>
> If the driver is having trouble loading, you should see a related error in
> dom0's journalctl.
>
>

i am having 0 errors with nvidia card nothing in the logs really , yet
still having the same issue, no updates, one tweak for performance as
suggested helped a little but not alot


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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes 4.0 sluggish feel

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On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 6:54 PM  wrote:
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> On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 12:49:05 AM UTC-4, Outback Dingo wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 6:18 AM John S.Recdep wrote:
> > > I blame intel speedstep for everything in your local uefi ,  and dingos :)
> >
> > great but how do we resolve it... its makes Qubes itself really unuseable
>
> Maybe try this?
> In dom0:
> sudo xenpm set-scaling-governor performance

Okay thanks for this, it does seem to have helped a bit, at least
changing apps and tabs is smoother, though i still get a little bit of
video issues

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes 4.0 sluggish feel

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On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 6:18 AM John S.Recdep  wrote:
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> On 08/06/2018 01:50 PM, Outback Dingo wrote:
> > I dont remeber qubes being so sluggish on a skylake laptop with 64Gb,
> > qubes is installed on a SSD, however it now seems to take an awful
> > long time to switch windows, change tabs in firefox and chhrome,
> > launch VMs
> >
> > also note that screen rendering, i can actually watch web pages paint,
> > as though video is being quirly or something, it is an NVIDIA card
> >
> > any suggestions, nothing is swapping, memory seems ok, ive even
> > allocated 8192 mb to 2 vms which i see it in, both fedora and debian,
> > and i am up to date update wise.
> >
>
> I blame intel speedstep for everything in your local uefi ,  and dingos :)

great but how do we resolve it... its makes Qubes itself really unuseable

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes 4.0 sluggish feel

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On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 5:49 AM cooloutac  wrote:
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>
>
> I get this problem sometimes when I update templates,   then restart all the 
> vms.  Solution is to reboot the pc.  Only happens to me on 4.0
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nope its been rebooted numerous times, still same issue, always
sluggish choppy ui, take 20+ seconds just to swtich tabs in chrome /
firefox in both fedora and debian. other apps seem to take longer
times loading, switching apps is the same



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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes 4.0 sluggish feel

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On Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 9:05:54 AM UTC+2, awokd wrote:
> On Wed, August 8, 2018 3:14 am, Outback Dingo wrote:
> > Nothing ??
> > On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 1:50 AM Outback Dingo 
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I dont remeber qubes being so sluggish on a skylake laptop with 64Gb,
> >> qubes is installed on a SSD, however it now seems to take an awful long
> >> time to switch windows, change tabs in firefox and chhrome, launch VMs
> >>
> >> also note that screen rendering, i can actually watch web pages paint,
> >> as though video is being quirly or something, it is an NVIDIA card
> >>
> >> any suggestions, nothing is swapping, memory seems ok, ive even
> >> allocated 8192 mb to 2 vms which i see it in, both fedora and debian,
> >> and i am up to date update wise.
> 
> Sounds similar to this Intel problem:
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/intel-igfx-troubleshooting/#software-rendering-or-video-lags.
> Review your logs and see if your video card driver is reporting any errors
> when it loads.


not sure how this would be appplicable its an Nvidia card..

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[qubes-users] Re: Qubes 4.0 sluggish feel

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Nothing ??
On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 1:50 AM Outback Dingo  wrote:
>
> I dont remeber qubes being so sluggish on a skylake laptop with 64Gb,
> qubes is installed on a SSD, however it now seems to take an awful
> long time to switch windows, change tabs in firefox and chhrome,
> launch VMs
>
> also note that screen rendering, i can actually watch web pages paint,
> as though video is being quirly or something, it is an NVIDIA card
>
> any suggestions, nothing is swapping, memory seems ok, ive even
> allocated 8192 mb to 2 vms which i see it in, both fedora and debian,
> and i am up to date update wise.

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[qubes-users] Qubes 4.0 sluggish feel

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I dont remeber qubes being so sluggish on a skylake laptop with 64Gb,
qubes is installed on a SSD, however it now seems to take an awful
long time to switch windows, change tabs in firefox and chhrome,
launch VMs

also note that screen rendering, i can actually watch web pages paint,
as though video is being quirly or something, it is an NVIDIA card

any suggestions, nothing is swapping, memory seems ok, ive even
allocated 8192 mb to 2 vms which i see it in, both fedora and debian,
and i am up to date update wise.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: [qubes-devel] Qubes Controller as the new Qubes-Manager

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On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 6:27 AM, 'Tom Zander' via qubes-devel
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> On Saturday, 6 January 2018 00:11:43 GMT Franz wrote:
>> I would add some way to make some order in the
>> applVM list, so that a standard view may show only the most commonly used
>> VMs, while rarely used VMs are hidden and shown only clicking a button. To
>> do that, there should be a flag to differentiate the visibility of VMs.
>
> I made a start with this based on my own usage; See the attached
> screenshots.
> Going from screenshot1 (showing all my qubes) to 5 by removing ones based
> on;
> * being templates for disposable VMs. (you likely never want to start them
> after initial configuration).
> * being a "network" VM.
> * Being a template.
> * Being halted.
>
> Naturally you can combine those settings in any way you want to show the
> subsection of qubes you use.
> I expect that I''l end up using the settings as "snapshot4" shows it most of
> the time.
>
>> This may be helpful also in a corporate environment when an administrator
>> can decide which VMs should be shown and which should be hidden.
>
> This is a great idea, I recall that root added tags in 4.0. I have not tried
> them yet, but it sounds like a good fit.
>
> Thanks for the ideas!
>

This runs on 4.0-RC2 ??


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[qubes-users] really no support

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seriously still seems there is very little support ive sent multiple
emails to the list and received no response, so let me ask again ?

how do i enlarge a vm file system with 4.0RC2
basically my personal vm is out of space..

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[qubes-users] 4.RC2 CANT create / install VM from local iso

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So we need updated docs or somethings broken...

i copied the iso to /home/user from the AppVM tried to create an hvm
appvm got a unrecognized argument... ok
then tried without --hvm... seems ok however. qvm-start
results in a traceback

[dingo@dom0 ~]$ qvm-create BSD --hvm --label blue
usage: qvm-create [-h] [--verbose] [--quiet] [--class CLS]
  [--property NAME=VALUE] [--pool VOLUME_NAME=POOL_NAME]
  [-P POOL_NAME] [--template VALUE] [--label VALUE]
  [--help-classes]
  [--root-copy-from FILENAME | --root-move-from FILENAME]
  [VMNAME]
qvm-create: error: unrecognized arguments: --hvm
[dingo@dom0 ~]$ qvm-create BSD  --label blue
sudo qvm-start BSD --cdrom=/home/dingo/FreeBSD-11.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/bin/qvm-start", line 9, in 
load_entry_point('qubesadmin==4.0.9', 'console_scripts', 'qvm-start')()
  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubesadmin/tools/qvm_start.py",
line 160, in main
drive_assignment = get_drive_assignment(args.app, args.drive)
  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubesadmin/tools/qvm_start.py",
line 98, in get_drive_assignment
backend_domain_name, ident = drive_str.split(':', 1)
ValueError: not enough values to unpack (expected 2, got 1)
[dingo@dom0 ~]$ qvm-start BSD
--cdrom=/home/dingo/FreeBSD-11.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/qvm-start", line 9, in 
load_entry_point('qubesadmin==4.0.9', 'console_scripts', 'qvm-start')()
  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubesadmin/tools/qvm_start.py",
line 160, in main
drive_assignment = get_drive_assignment(args.app, args.drive)
  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubesadmin/tools/qvm_start.py",
line 98, in get_drive_assignment
backend_domain_name, ident = drive_str.split(':', 1)
ValueError: not enough values to unpack (expected 2, got 1)
[dingo@dom0 ~]$ qvm-start BSD
--cdrom=/home/dingo/FreeBSD-11.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/qvm-start", line 9, in 
load_entry_point('qubesadmin==4.0.9', 'console_scripts', 'qvm-start')()
  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubesadmin/tools/qvm_start.py",
line 160, in main
drive_assignment = get_drive_assignment(args.app, args.drive)
  File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubesadmin/tools/qvm_start.py",
line 98, in get_drive_assignment
backend_domain_name, ident = drive_str.split(':', 1)
ValueError: not enough values to unpack (expected 2, got 1)

[user@personal dom0]$

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[qubes-users] resize vm partition / 4.0RC2

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Ok so how do we resize a vm partition in 4.0RC2 i see the qvm-resize
is no longer there.

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[qubes-users] KDE Plasma 4.0RC2 / MISSING DEPS

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seems 4.0RC2 is missing some kde packages so it cannot be installed
according to the guide

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/kde/

package plasma-workspace requires kde-setting-plasma but none of the
providers could be installed

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 4.0RC2 KDE - NO SDDM

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On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Chris Laprise <tas...@posteo.net> wrote:
> On 10/25/17 05:09, Outback Dingo wrote:
>>
>> i tried to follow this page for KDE however it seems sddm is not installed
>>
>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/kde/
>>
>
> I'd also prefer to have KDE running on R4. Except for one issue, it has been
> great to use on R3.x. So I'm curious if you can get it running before I try
> :)
>
> Have you tried manually installing sddm?

seems kde plasma isnt even installable right now, i tried based on the
doc yet its missing dependencies in 4.0RC2

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/kde/


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Re: [qubes-users] Use another Window Manager (awesome) with Qubes OS

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On Friday, September 29, 2017 at 3:13:35 AM UTC-4, Jarle Thorsen wrote:
> torsdag 28. september 2017 20.09.10 UTC+2 skrev One7two99 følgende:
> > Hello Holger,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > I"ve been using awesome for almost 10 years and when I switched to Qubes
> > 
> > > half a year ago I wanted to continue using awesome, saw these 
> > > instructions and
> > 
> > > gave i3 a try. (Which is a simple as "sudo qubes-dom0-update 
> > > qubes-i3-settings", 
> > 
> > > logout, changing to i3 in the login manager and login in again.)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thank you for the tip, I've watched some i3 videos and it looks good.
> > 
> > I'll give it a try. Just for info, the installation of i3 is possible via
> 
> As a former Awesome user I also now prefer the "simplicity" of i3.

Any possibilities Xmonad would also work i wonder, its quite nice

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[qubes-users] Laptop 2nd Drive Qubes VM

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I have a complete 1TB SSD with Fedora 27 installed on my second disk
would there be a way to launch that inside of Qubes as an AppVM?

I could ask about the 3rd drive also, being a full windows 10 install

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[qubes-users] HCL MetaBox P650RE / Clevo

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working with wireless, no onboard nic pci conflicts someplace

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