Re: [qubes-users] GPU is deal-breaker

2017-08-22 Thread cdgamlin
> > Summary: Deal-breaker probably is down to getting VLC working
> > properly
> >
>
> did you tried to switch video output?
> I would start with X11 instead of automatic.
>

Not sure what you mean, but have other pressing projects to work on right now. 
Will look into it further in the future when I have the time available.

As per above, VLC is a make or break for me - but others (eg: gamers) would 
benefit from detaching GPU from Dom0 and attaching GPU to their games domain 
qube, if it meant that OpenGL could then be available to the attached qube

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Re: [qubes-users] GPU is deal-breaker

2017-08-22 Thread cdgamlin
> > Summary: Deal-breaker probably is down to getting VLC working
> > properly
> > 
> 
> did you tried to switch video output?
> I would start with X11 instead of automatic.
> 

Not sure what you mean, but have other pressing projects to work on right now. 
Will look into it further in the future when I have the time available.

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Re: [qubes-users] GPU is deal-breaker

2017-08-22 Thread cdgamlin
My laptop specs (if it helps): https://support.hp.com/au-en/document/c03146718

My situation: Don't have funds to get a new computer (for hardware compliance 
or multiple GPUs) or mobile phone (for Skype), and can't use an alternative to 
Skype (not my choice and beyond my control).

Screen-shooting rather than screen-sharing for Skype seems reasonable, as Skype 
shouldn't be on Dom0. I think that would solve my issues with Skype (I'd have 
to reinstall Qubes+Skype and check it out)- but I am still stuck with VLC video 
glitching up, even if the audio keeps playing well.

Summary: Deal-breaker probably is down to getting VLC working properly

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Re: [qubes-users] GPU is deal-breaker

2017-08-22 Thread cdgamlin
My situation: Don't have funds to get a new computer (for hardware compliance) 
or mobile phone (for Skype), and can't use an alternative to Skype (not my 
choice and beyond my control)

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[qubes-users] GPU is deal-breaker

2017-08-20 Thread cdgamlin
Hi!

*** TL;DR: Would the option to attach the GPU to a single qube be feasible? ***

Recently tried out Q3.2 and Q4.0-rc1. Pretty happy with most of it, and have 
some ideas on what might make it better (if those ideas are plausible) - but 
the GPU seems to be the deal breaker.

On LinuxMint, I like using VLC video player to watch lectures, using it's 
option to speed up without altering pitch. On both versions of Q, video on VLC 
behaved badly (often freezing up). Audio was good, so can only think it is GPU 
issue

I also use Skype a fair bit on LinuxMint, and find the "share screen" mode 
useful to show stuff. Video on Skype also performed badly on on both versions 
of Q, and "share screen" wouldn't work at all. Again, I can only think this is 
GPU

While I've read that OpenGL doesn't work on Q (obviously important for gamers 
using Q), I don't know the status for OpenCL - but programming OpenCL using GPU 
is also another use for me (for scientific computing stuff), which I'm guessing 
Q will also have an issue with

>From what I've read, it seems that Dom0 has the GPU, and won't share with 
>others because it could create a security issue (my guesses: from sharing 
>memory, or sharing processes, or both). My suggestion (if feasible) is for 
>Dom0 not to use GPU (CPU only should make sense, as Dom0 should be as 
>light-weight as possible), and have GPU as a device that can is deployable to 
>any 1 qube the same way as you can for other devices (such as microphone) - if 
>GPU assignment feasibly works without security issues. Reading that some 
>successful experiments have been done for "GPU passthrough" sounds like 
>assignment of GPU to a qube may be feasible (Am I right??)

Love the Qubes concept. Hoping the GPU issue can be sorted, opening up the OS 
for a wider user base.

Cheers!

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