Re: [qubes-users] Whonix-Workstation VM and associate AppVMs not connecting in Qubes 3.2

2018-10-02 Thread john s.
On 10/1/18 10:23 AM, Setherson wrote:
>> I should have said in my previous email that I got the same error you just 
>> pasted. What I did was comment out the onion server in 
>> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/whonix.list as well.
>>
>> That fixed the problem for me.
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> Just to be absolutely clear, I meant that commenting out the onion server in 
> whonix.list fixed the updating problem, not any of the other ones.
> 


Another symptom is that  in  anon-whonix  NOR whonix-ws-14   , there is
no  whonixcheck  available

strange

sys-whonix-14   has whonixcheck  which seems to complete fine,  maybe
thing to do is reinstall   whonix-ws-14   at this stage ??




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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Whonix-Workstation VM and associate AppVMs not connecting in Qubes 3.2

2018-10-01 Thread john s.
On 10/1/18 10:17 AM, Setherson wrote:
>> On Oct 1, 2018, at 3:06 PM, John S.Recdep  wrote:
>>
>> On 9/30/18 10:18 PM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:
>>
>>> 'Setherson' via qubes-users wrote on 9/30/18 2:12 AM:
>>>
 I am using Qubes 3.2. All TemplateVMs and dom0 have been updated
 sometime within the past week.

 Since about the same time, my Workstation TemplateVM and every AppVM
 based on it has been unable to connect to the internet.

 The Whonix Gateway TemplateVM works fine, as does the sys-whonix
 NetVM. Furthermore, all the AppVMs based on the Fedora and Debian
 templates work even when routed through sys-whonix. I also have all
 the TemplateVMs set to update through sys-whonix, and every one of
 them is able to do this with the sole exception of whonix-ws-14. So if
 I had to guess, I’d say the problem lies with the Whonix Workstation
 TemplateVM itself.

 When I try updating whonix-ws-14, it “hits” everything until the 10th
 repository. Once it gets there, the screen shows “[working]” and stays
 there.

 Has anyone else run into this problem? What steps can I take to begin
 troubleshooting it?

 Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>> You might have caught a bad update last week, and it sounds like one of
>>> the repositories you're using is unavailable right now. You can try the
>>> suggestions in
>>> https://forums.whonix.org/t/errors-updating-september-2018/6028/8, or
>>> wait a day or so and try updating again.
>>
>> actually the method from the whonix forum still fails : (# commenting
>> out the 2  onion repo references
>>
>> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade works but not  , as below
>>
>> user@host:~$ sudo apt-get update
>> Hit:1 [http://deb.whonix.org](http://deb.whonix.org/) stretch InRelease
>>
>> Hit:2 http://deb.qubes-os.org/r4.0/vm stretch InRelease
>>
>> Hit:3 [http://security.debian.org](http://security.debian.org/) 
>> stretch/updates InRelease
>> Ign:4 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stretch InRelease
>> Hit:5 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stretch Release
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/tor+http could not be found.
>> N: Is the package apt-transport-tor installed?
>> E: Failed to fetch
>> tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/dists/stretch/InRelease
>>
>> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old
>> ones used instead.
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> 
> I should have said in my previous email that I got the same error you just 
> pasted. What I did was comment out the onion server in 
> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/whonix.list as well.
> 
> That fixed the problem for me.
> 


What I'm seeing in the sources list is this :

#kdesudo xdg-open /etc/apt/sources.list.d/user.list

deb tor+http://sgvtcaew4bxjd7ln.onion stretch/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org stretch/updates main contrib non-free

deb tor+http://vwakviie2ienjx6t.onion/debian stretch main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stretch main contrib non-free



If I comment out both  tor+http   references and restart the Template it
still fails,

Which one are you  saying is THE "onion server" ?




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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix-Workstation VM and associate AppVMs not connecting in Qubes 3.2

2018-10-01 Thread john s.
On 10/1/18 10:23 AM, Setherson wrote:
>> I should have said in my previous email that I got the same error you just 
>> pasted. What I did was comment out the onion server in 
>> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/whonix.list as well.
>>
>> That fixed the problem for me.
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> 
> Just to be absolutely clear, I meant that commenting out the onion server in 
> whonix.list fixed the updating problem, not any of the other ones.
> 

sorry my bad, read the email to fast,  seems to be working for me as
well   #'ing out the 3 references in both  lists  .

apparently per the instructions in the file list,  it says this file can
and may be written over,  so maybe the solution won't last

appreciate your help  , fixed for now

whonix forum is calling the debian .onion servers "dodgy"  . not
sure whats thats based anyhow   cheers

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: dom0 clock keeps resetting to wrong time again

2019-01-20 Thread john s.
On 1/20/19 12:06 AM, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> On 19/01/2019 5.08 PM, John S.Recdep wrote:
>> On 1/14/19 9:55 PM, John S.Recdep wrote:
>>> On 1/14/19 10:10 AM, John S.Recdep wrote:
 Hello,

 I believe my Bios time is UTC

 qubes-prefs shows my clockvm  as sys-net

 I have been trying to use sudo date --set <"localtime TZ">  to
 get my dom0 correct.  Which it does but within 30-60  it is
 changing to another TZ I don't recognize

 I have also tried  qvm-sync-clock  ,  and tried a qubes group
 search as I remember fighting this out many times   with whonix
 issues , however

 I am at a loss what to do further to problem-solve fix this  , 
 appreciate your help


 maybe I can switch the template for sys-net back to fedora-28
 instead of -29  . ?

>>>
>>> 1-14-19
>>>
>>> changing the clockvm to fed-28 and rerunning qvm-sync-clock did
>>> nothing BUT*  changing sys-net to debian-9  and qvm-sync-clock
>>> fixed it   sigh
>>>
>>> case anyone else gets this issue again ; prolly will fix
>>> whonixcheck complaints if any as well
>>>
>>> 'solved'
>>>
> 
>> Must be related to this 
>> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3983
> 
>> for myself it's not the  minimal fedora-29 its the regular one ;
>> and it appears if fedora-29 is having time issues  that  that may
>> be why my thunderbird appvm based on it,  is also  timestamping the
>> messages wrong ?
> 
> 
> Try the workaround mentioned in the comments on that issue, if you
> haven't already. It's worked for me so far.
> 
> 


well if you mean:

in the Fedora-29 template doing

sudo chmod 700 /var/lib/private


[user@fedora-29 ~]$ sudo ls -l /var/lib/private/
total 4
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Dec  9 15:37 systemd
[user@fedora-29 ~]$ sudo chmod 700 /var/lib/private/
[user@fedora-29 ~]$ sudo ls -l /var/lib/private/
total 4
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Dec  9 15:37 systemd


doesn't seem to change any permissions on the systemd  directory  so
. doesn't seem like that is going to fix anything ?  maybe I'm
missing something basic?








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[qubes-users] running application without packages ?

2019-03-29 Thread john s.

So, if I have a .tar.gz  which I unzip  and inside there is a executable.

there is nothing to install in a template, and when I close the AppVM 
that contains the executable,  should I expect that when I open that 
AppVM again,


that I should still be able to use the executable?


or is Qubes designed so that only executables installed in the Templates 
should persist to be executable


and hence, if there is no package, then I can't use the software except 
temporarily




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Re: [qubes-users] Re: [qubes-devel] QSB #46: APT update mechanism vulnerability

2019-01-25 Thread john s.


>>
>> Tasket,
>>
>> Does this mean that a upgrade to testing  is as good as   uninstalling -
>> re-installing templates ?
> 
> Yes. Everything in the template's root and private volumes is wiped
> before the new package is added.
> 
> However we found out this doesn't work for Whonix if your updatevm is
> set to sys-whonix. For debian-9 its fine.


.but, otherwise Marek's original Patch howto  remains  OK  for
whonix-14  Q4.0 ?


>> I guess your cloning debian-9-nonpatch'd just in case the upgrade fails
>> , which you'd rather do  than  reinstall  fresh clean
>> debian-9-new-apt-version?
> 
> Its less hassle to qvm-clone to a backup, then run the upgrade.

less hassle meaning than new Templates , ?because one would not then
need to add back any useradded packagesor  both ?






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[qubes-users] Re: Installing software.. deb-9 lists qubes-r4.list

2019-04-16 Thread john s.

On 3/23/19 6:31 PM, Jon deps wrote:

On 3/19/19 4:59 PM, Steven Walker wrote:
I am still pretty new to Qubes. I have managed to create a new qube, 
but I want to install some software for use with this qube. I have 
read that it has to be installed to the template and not the actual 
qube. As the template has no actual network connection, how do I go 
about this?


Using 4.0.1, Fedora 29

Any help greatly appeciated.

Steve



pretty sure, there are different ways to skin the cat, though


the Templates are designed to obtain access indirectly, that is what the 
  "salt" stuff is they talk about it seems by default to be setup to 
use  sys-whonix-14  to  install updates  , somewhat magically


you can actually change the netvm without shutting down the templates

generally it's bad form  to give  the templates direct access,  though 
may you might want to once in while  in order  to troubleshoot something 
, etc  .testing it the morning ,  you should be able to install non 
updates without  Direct  access




for me  Templates  aren't  worth backing up  , I'm not worried about my 
system  melting down  much . and anyway  its going to be best to 
fresh install , which is easy-ist  in Qubes, which is one of the 
beauties of the technology 


hence, I clone for other reasons

one word of advice  is  keep a paper list of  custom  packages you 
install so when it goes to Fedora-30  you install fresh and then add 
back fresh packages ,  your files  will persist,



my problem  what few files I have end up spread out over  10 App Qubes






If  I do this :

echo "deb [arch=amd64] https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial 
main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/signal-xenial.list

deb [arch=amd64] https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial main




then I do NOT need to add anything  to 
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/qubes-r4.list   ??


nor

/etc/apt/sources.list   ??


for Debian-9  stretch ?


ty


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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Does Qubes-OS 4.0.1 have support for KDE or GNOME desktop environment?

2019-06-15 Thread john s.

On 6/15/19 12:50 AM, Chris Laprise wrote:

On 6/14/19 6:00 PM, Jon deps wrote:

On 6/5/19 8:00 PM, Chris Laprise wrote:

On 6/2/19 3:41 AM, Finn wrote:

I've installed Qubes-OS 4.0.1 and it's XFCE desktop environment but I
would rather prefer either KDE or GNOME desktop environment. I found
this document[1] where mentioned that Qubes-OS is migrating towards
GNOME but at the time of installation only XFCE (neither KDE nor GNOME)
is available. I was wondering, is there a way I can use my preferred
desktop environment? Or, I have to wait for GNOME until migration is 
not

fully completed because it seems currently there is no support for KDE.


[1]: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/usability-ux/


KDE does have support AFAIK, although its no long the default. If you 
can get used to the blank-space network icon, then I recommend KDE as 
there are many pluses.


I don't believe Qubes is actually going to migrate to Gnome. There 
was an aborted attempt and Gnome 3's paradigm (tablet touch UI, 
melded WM/app widgets) doesn't seem compatible with Qubes' concept.





seems to want about 4 times  the dom0  RAM   and still  buggy  am 
getting all these  flashing  windows bar and applications menu  hit 
and miss giving dom0 memory boost 800 MiB and minimal qubes memory 400 
MiB or so ,  so gave up



btw,  is there any documentation on recommended RAM for  dom0  using XFCE

I'd like to put back the  Default memory settings  but  don't know 
what they are


What GPU does your system have? I'm running KDE comfortably in only 
1.5GB dom0 memory, and my graphics are Intel HD integrated.


I don't recall the exact procedure to set dom0 memory. It begins with 
changing GRUB_CMDLINE_XEN_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub and then you run 
a command to update it.





so your 1.5GB  of dom0  memory  is  NOT  the  dom0 "memory boost" in the 
Qubes Global Settings?  which I'm assuming is akin to  "maxmem"  for 
other VMs ?



I also have intel integrated graphics,  maybe kabylake generation


at minimal qube memory 1564  and  dom0 memory boost  5138  I am 
still finding it unusable   the  app menus  don't appear ,  I keep 
fighting the taskbar widgets  which then somehow  I make appear on the 
desktop not the  taskbar,  then  can't get them back on the taskbar, 
etc,  which maybe a / the KDE learning curve . nice to see something 
less austere  using Qubes, that I might be able to understand   but


if it requires me to change something in Grub  and not just the  Global 
Settings  ...maybe time to give up  :)




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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Adding a Firefox add-on error to -dvm ?

2019-05-15 Thread john s.

On 5/10/19 1:17 AM, awokd wrote:

deb https://deb.debian.org/debian stretch-updates main contrib non-free


thanksforthereply,


hmm just curious

in /etc/apt/sources.list there is this

deb https://deb.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main contrib 
non-free






but that is not the same as
deb https://deb.debian.org/debian stretch-updates main contrib non-free


??


your solution worked  am just curious if my sources.list  was not 
correct  somehow ?




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