[qubes-users] Issues Installing 4 RC2 + Disk Encryption

[Dara Vakili]

Hi Qubes Users

I'm a fairly competent linux user (I work on clusters) and I am having
issues installing qubes to my external SSD with my HP Spectre x360 (new gen)

Setup info: Using default setup, qubes ISO is on my USB external pen drive
- followed correct DD image instructions. After some testing attempts with
a basic password, I found qubes works when the ssd is connected via the
USB-C port over the USB-3 port. So, pen drive in USB-3 port, boot, install
qubes 4 RC2 to SSD on USB-C port - fine.

For some reason, when I install with full disk encryption using my more
complex password which is ROUGHLY ~30 ASCii characters including
punctuation, I am unable to boot.

I am pretty good at typing this password and getting it right, and I have
tried re-installing and re-encrypting many times now. I am beginning to
think it's not my own error, and that qubes may, for some reason, fail to
boot if the pass for FDE is too complex?

Please let me know of your thoughts

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RE: [qubes-users] Installation Issues on WD MyPassport Ultra Drive

[Dara Vakili]

Thanks a lot mystic! 

Weirdly it worked when I did the following: 

- Turn off secure boot, reboot and verify when prompted about the changes 
- Disable fast boot 
- Boot from usb with qubes dd 
- After the qubes installer has loaded and shows the available HHD/SSDs plug in 
external disk #kept crashing with all bios combinations until I did this# 

Bests 
D

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From: Mystic Buyer
Sent: 19 May 2017 16:48
To: Dara Vakili
Subject: Re: [qubes-users] Installation Issues on WD MyPassport Ultra Drive

Ok here is what I did with my dell xps 15 9560, which initially had problems 
with hard drive being in RAID and not in AHCI.


- In the bios settings I turned off the secure boot option[disabled]

- I booted off of my usb and it sure did start the installer, I did not choose 
the verify and install option since I had read the laptop may come with 
problems, so   I checked the integrity of the software iso separatly.

- When I got to the option to choose the installation destination my internal 
ssd wasn't visible at all. I did some research and found that my laptop setting 
in        bios for hard drive was on RAID so I had to disable it to AHCI. And 
then I could see the internal hard drive for installation.

I am not sure how much of the above what I did will help you, but I suggest 
checking your settings with the ones I mentioned above. Also try using a 
different usb to boot off of, since the picture you uploaded said no device of 
something like that I think may be something got corrupted when you were 
burning the iso to the usb. I used RUFUS to burn the 'DD' image on to the usb. 
Also check the size of the usb that you are using since I had made the mistake 
of using 4gb usb when the size of the iso I was burning was a little over it so 
that did not go well.

If like you said the installation freezes then the media or downloaded iso or 
may be while burning it was corrupted. So may be install the iso again and 
check its authenticity on a different machine or some way mentioned on the site.

Hope it helps.

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Dara Vakili <dvakil...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry the graphical installer, that's what I mean with blue installer. I'll 
take a look at my hardware but it should work. There's people who have the same 
model laptop with qubes installed.  

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On 18 May 2017, at 15:24, Mystic Buyer <mysticbuye...@gmail.com> wrote:
You might want to check the hardware support of your laptop with qubes. I am 
not sure of the blue installer. If the graphical installer starts then your 
laptop is compatible with qubes and will install it. Not sure whats causing the 
problem in your case.

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 1:55 AM, Dara Vakili <dvakil...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Mystic 

So When I do test and install, I get that error when the test begins. 

If I reboot and try to install without the test, I get to the blue installer 
(anaconda?) and it asks me what language and key layout for qubes. The second I 
see that screen it fails and outputs a long error that I currently don't have a 
way of saving. 

I'll try downloading another version of the ISO but it shouldn't be due to the 
ISO integrity. 

I know qubes works on this laptop, people on the qubes Reddit have managed, 
just trying to also see if they also had these issues. 

Bests
D  

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On 18 May 2017, at 01:49, Mystic Buyer <mysticbuye...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Did the anaconda installer start? or did this happen when you chose test and 
install. If it happened during test and install and it did not get to graphical 
installer at all, you should probably test the integrity of the downloaded 
qubes iso
as per the instruction given on the qubes os site and just start the 
installation without testing it from the menu. Go straight to install qubes I 
think the second option.

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Dara Vakili <dvakil...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for that. I was able to boot from the USB. When starting by testing 
media I get the report in the photo, sorry for the res 

If I go to install, the installer asks me what language and instantly fails due 
to some random error 

Bests 
D



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On 17 May 2017, at 15:26, Mystic Buyer <mysticbuye...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, 

You may want to turn off secure boot in bios, that sometimes causes the usb to 
not boot

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Dara Vakili <dvakil...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey all 
 
I’m still struggling to get it to work. I have used rubus to write the qubes 
ISO as a dd image onto a usb stick. When it was complete I could see two 
folders. 
 
I restart my laptop with UEFI bios putting USB boot as my primary. For some 
reason it won’t boot from the USB. Does the qubes installation need to be done 
in legacy mode or it works with UEFI? 
 
Best Wishes
Dara
 
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From: Franz
Sent: 15 May 2017 21:35
To: dvakil...@gmail.com
Cc: qubes-

Re: [qubes-users] Installation Issues on WD MyPassport Ultra Drive

[Dara Vakili]

Sorry the graphical installer, that's what I mean with blue installer. I'll 
take a look at my hardware but it should work. There's people who have the same 
model laptop with qubes installed.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 May 2017, at 15:24, Mystic Buyer <mysticbuye...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> You might want to check the hardware support of your laptop with qubes. I am 
> not sure of the blue installer. If the graphical installer starts then your 
> laptop is compatible with qubes and will install it. Not sure whats causing 
> the problem in your case.
> 
>> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 1:55 AM, Dara Vakili <dvakil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Mystic 
>> 
>> So When I do test and install, I get that error when the test begins. 
>> 
>> If I reboot and try to install without the test, I get to the blue installer 
>> (anaconda?) and it asks me what language and key layout for qubes. The 
>> second I see that screen it fails and outputs a long error that I currently 
>> don't have a way of saving. 
>> 
>> I'll try downloading another version of the ISO but it shouldn't be due to 
>> the ISO integrity. 
>> 
>> I know qubes works on this laptop, people on the qubes Reddit have managed, 
>> just trying to also see if they also had these issues. 
>> 
>> Bests
>> D  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 18 May 2017, at 01:49, Mystic Buyer <mysticbuye...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Did the anaconda installer start? or did this happen when you chose test 
>>> and install. If it happened during test and install and it did not get to 
>>> graphical installer at all, you should probably test the integrity of the 
>>> downloaded qubes iso
>>> as per the instruction given on the qubes os site and just start the 
>>> installation without testing it from the menu. Go straight to install qubes 
>>> I think the second option.
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Dara Vakili <dvakil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Thanks for that. I was able to boot from the USB. When starting by testing 
>>>> media I get the report in the photo, sorry for the res 
>>>> 
>>>> If I go to install, the installer asks me what language and instantly 
>>>> fails due to some random error 
>>>> 
>>>> Bests 
>>>> D
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 17 May 2017, at 15:26, Mystic Buyer <mysticbuye...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, 
>>>>> 
>>>>> You may want to turn off secure boot in bios, that sometimes causes the 
>>>>> usb to not boot
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Dara Vakili <dvakil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hey all
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m still struggling to get it to work. I have used rubus to write the 
>>>>>> qubes ISO as a dd image onto a usb stick. When it was complete I could 
>>>>>> see two folders.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I restart my laptop with UEFI bios putting USB boot as my primary. For 
>>>>>> some reason it won’t boot from the USB. Does the qubes installation need 
>>>>>> to be done in legacy mode or it works with UEFI?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best Wishes
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dara
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Franz
>>>>>> Sent: 15 May 2017 21:35
>>>>>> To: dvakil...@gmail.com
>>>>>> Cc: qubes-users@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [qubes-users] Installation Issues on WD MyPassport Ultra 
>>>>>> Drive
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 4:30 PM, <dvakil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey Guys
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>

RE: [qubes-users] Installation Issues on WD MyPassport Ultra Drive

[Dara Vakili]

Hey all 

I’m still struggling to get it to work. I have used rubus to write the qubes 
ISO as a dd image onto a usb stick. When it was complete I could see two 
folders. 

I restart my laptop with UEFI bios putting USB boot as my primary. For some 
reason it won’t boot from the USB. Does the qubes installation need to be done 
in legacy mode or it works with UEFI? 

Best Wishes
Dara

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Franz
Sent: 15 May 2017 21:35
To: dvakil...@gmail.com
Cc: qubes-users@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [qubes-users] Installation Issues on WD MyPassport Ultra Drive



On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 4:30 PM,  wrote:
Hey Guys
 
Trying to write ISO as DD with rufus onto my external HDD. When I use rufus, 
tell it to read all files and select the iso, confirm I want it as dd image and 
not as iso then I hit start. The bugger gets to around 15% after like 4 hours 
then fails with an error message. Error message just says write failure.  
 
The HDD works fine but there’s some issue with my windows 10 laptop from 
formatting it properly. I had to download minitool partition wizard as windows 
couldn’t partition or format it. 
 
Anyone know any other dd writer that works on windows? Or anything else I can 
try? 
All I want to do is install qubes onto this 2TB external HDD. Any advice 
greatly appreciated xxx

Two notes:
1. if you do not find any better way, you may boot a live linux distribution 
over your windows installation without damaging it.
2. To install Qubes onto this 2TB external HDD I imagine you need another 
source (such as a USB pendrive) for keeping the Qubes iso installer. Then, 
installation should start with the pendrive and the 2TB HDD will be the target. 
Once I did that and it worked.
Best
Fran
 
Bests 
D 
 
 
 
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