Re: [qubes-users] Keyboard and mouse issue (R 4.0.1)
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 1:14:45 AM UTC-6, Ivan Mitev wrote: > On 1/15/19 11:04 PM, John Goold wrote: > > On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 at 9:08:48 AM UTC-6, Ivan Mitev wrote: > >> On 1/15/19 2:42 PM, unman wrote: > >>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 09:26:31AM +0200, Ivan Mitev wrote: > > > On 1/15/19 3:36 AM, jrg.desk...@gmail.com wrote: > > KEYBOARD > > > > How do I set the "compose" key on the keyboard? I have run several > > Linux distributions (base on Debian/Ubuntu) for several years and have > > had no problems setting a compose key so that I could enter > > diacriticals and symbols like the em-dash and the Spanish upside down > > exclamation and question marks. > > IIRC there's no gui setting in XFCE for setting a compose key. I don't > use such key myself but I guess you can edit dom0's > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf and add XkbOptions there (eg. > Option "XkbOptions" "compose:menu"). Run `grep "compose:" > /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.lst` to find what keys you can use. > > >>> > >>> The default key combo is Shift+AltGR - enabled by default in X > >>> You can also set XkbOptions compose: in /etc/default/keyboard > >> > >> I thought that /etc/default/keyboard was only for debian and > >> derivatives. Are you sure it works for fedora ? > > > > First things first :-) When trying out keyboard changes, I wanted them to > > apply globally (they work just fine when I use setxkbmap..., thanks) and so > > made a change in dom0. Since the test change did not seem to work, I > > thought I would try a complete reboot (imagining that when dom0 starts up, > > it reads its configuration files and then doesn't reread them after that). > > Indeed, tweaking X conf files will require a reboot in Qubes OS. With a > standard distribution you'd log off, kill/restart the X server, and log > in again, but if you do so in Qubes OS your VM apps won't be displayed > anymore (not sure if it's a bug or a feature - I never log off anyway so > it doesn't bother me). > > > > What a surprise -- my mouse reverted to being left-handed! I have no idea > > why (other than the reboot) or why it reverted to right-handed (other than > > the sys-usb VM being set up). Any way, the problem has "gone away". > > Magic :) > > > > Now for the keyboard changes. As I indicated, I wanted to turn off the Caps > > Lock key and set a "compose" key. > > > > I launched a dom0 terminal and sudo'ed to root. Then I edited the file > > "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf" and added the XkbOptions line. It > > now reads: > > > > Section "InputClass" > > Identifier "system-keyboard" > > MatchIsKeyboard "on" > > Option "XkbLayout" "us" > > Option "XkbOptions" "caps:none" > > EndSection > > > > After rebooting, the Caps Lock key is now off in all Qubes :-) However, I > > am not sure of the syntax of this file and do not want to make an error in > > the file in case it makes my keyboard inactive. > > > > Can I change that last Option line to: > > > > Option "XkbOptions" "caps:none compose:menu" > > > > or do need to use a comma to separate the two options (could not find this > > information in the Wikipedia article) OR, possibly use: > > > > Option "XkbOptions" "caps:none" > > Option "XkbOptions" "compose:menu" > > > > You'll have to use commas - eg. > > Option "XkbOptions" "caps:none,compose:menu" > > In case you mess up your X config and X won't start you should see a > text login prompt instead the graphical login; you can login and fix > conf files from there like you did from a terminal in dom0. Perfect! Now my keyboard settings really are global and, as such things should be, set in one place. Thank you for all the help you have been giving me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/f4913ca1-6443-4d2a-bacc-bd38b4a7ff99%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Keyboard and mouse issue (R 4.0.1)
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 08:31:37AM +0200, Ivan Mitev wrote: > > > > Not really a Fedora person. Probably not. :-( > > On the other hand, I *do* find a GUI way of setting the key under System > > Settings/Keyboard in KDE, and in Xfce, under > > SystemTools-Keyboard-Layout. > > Oh, you're right - as usual :) > I think I've already demonstrated that this is not so. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20190116120428.azv7gldn7hcuib2e%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Keyboard and mouse issue (R 4.0.1)
On 1/15/19 11:04 PM, John Goold wrote: > On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 at 9:08:48 AM UTC-6, Ivan Mitev wrote: >> On 1/15/19 2:42 PM, unman wrote: >>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 09:26:31AM +0200, Ivan Mitev wrote: On 1/15/19 3:36 AM, jrg.desk...@gmail.com wrote: > KEYBOARD > > How do I set the "compose" key on the keyboard? I have run several Linux > distributions (base on Debian/Ubuntu) for several years and have had no > problems setting a compose key so that I could enter diacriticals and > symbols like the em-dash and the Spanish upside down exclamation and > question marks. IIRC there's no gui setting in XFCE for setting a compose key. I don't use such key myself but I guess you can edit dom0's /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf and add XkbOptions there (eg. Option "XkbOptions" "compose:menu"). Run `grep "compose:" /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.lst` to find what keys you can use. >>> >>> The default key combo is Shift+AltGR - enabled by default in X >>> You can also set XkbOptions compose: in /etc/default/keyboard >> >> I thought that /etc/default/keyboard was only for debian and >> derivatives. Are you sure it works for fedora ? > > First things first :-) When trying out keyboard changes, I wanted them to > apply globally (they work just fine when I use setxkbmap..., thanks) and so > made a change in dom0. Since the test change did not seem to work, I thought > I would try a complete reboot (imagining that when dom0 starts up, it reads > its configuration files and then doesn't reread them after that). Indeed, tweaking X conf files will require a reboot in Qubes OS. With a standard distribution you'd log off, kill/restart the X server, and log in again, but if you do so in Qubes OS your VM apps won't be displayed anymore (not sure if it's a bug or a feature - I never log off anyway so it doesn't bother me). > What a surprise -- my mouse reverted to being left-handed! I have no idea why > (other than the reboot) or why it reverted to right-handed (other than the > sys-usb VM being set up). Any way, the problem has "gone away". Magic :) > Now for the keyboard changes. As I indicated, I wanted to turn off the Caps > Lock key and set a "compose" key. > > I launched a dom0 terminal and sudo'ed to root. Then I edited the file > "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf" and added the XkbOptions line. It now > reads: > > Section "InputClass" > Identifier "system-keyboard" > MatchIsKeyboard "on" > Option "XkbLayout" "us" > Option "XkbOptions" "caps:none" > EndSection > > After rebooting, the Caps Lock key is now off in all Qubes :-) However, I am > not sure of the syntax of this file and do not want to make an error in the > file in case it makes my keyboard inactive. > > Can I change that last Option line to: > > Option "XkbOptions" "caps:none compose:menu" > > or do need to use a comma to separate the two options (could not find this > information in the Wikipedia article) OR, possibly use: > > Option "XkbOptions" "caps:none" > Option "XkbOptions" "compose:menu" > You'll have to use commas - eg. Option "XkbOptions" "caps:none,compose:menu" In case you mess up your X config and X won't start you should see a text login prompt instead the graphical login; you can login and fix conf files from there like you did from a terminal in dom0. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/8d3dfe60-1732-4e80-b5db-57f153496ef1%40maa.bz. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Keyboard and mouse issue (R 4.0.1)
On 1/16/19 2:43 AM, unman wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 05:08:39PM +0200, Ivan Mitev wrote: >> >> >> On 1/15/19 2:42 PM, unman wrote: >>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 09:26:31AM +0200, Ivan Mitev wrote: On 1/15/19 3:36 AM, jrg.desk...@gmail.com wrote: > KEYBOARD > > How do I set the "compose" key on the keyboard? I have run several Linux > distributions (base on Debian/Ubuntu) for several years and have had no > problems setting a compose key so that I could enter diacriticals and > symbols like the em-dash and the Spanish upside down exclamation and > question marks. IIRC there's no gui setting in XFCE for setting a compose key. I don't use such key myself but I guess you can edit dom0's /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf and add XkbOptions there (eg. Option "XkbOptions" "compose:menu"). Run `grep "compose:" /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.lst` to find what keys you can use. >>> >>> The default key combo is Shift+AltGR - enabled by default in X >>> You can also set XkbOptions compose: in /etc/default/keyboard >> >> I thought that /etc/default/keyboard was only for debian and >> derivatives. Are you sure it works for fedora ? > > Not really a Fedora person. Probably not. :-( > On the other hand, I *do* find a GUI way of setting the key under System > Settings/Keyboard in KDE, and in Xfce, under > SystemTools-Keyboard-Layout. Oh, you're right - as usual :) I remember trying to assign a compose key looong ago and not finding anything in XFCE ; a web search also returned many "XFCE doesn't provide a way to set a compose key..." so I assumed there was still no GUI for that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/35b3b3e7-8266-79c5-6650-29e71bef3c4a%40maa.bz. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Keyboard and mouse issue (R 4.0.1)
On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 05:08:39PM +0200, Ivan Mitev wrote: > > > On 1/15/19 2:42 PM, unman wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 09:26:31AM +0200, Ivan Mitev wrote: > >> > >> > >> On 1/15/19 3:36 AM, jrg.desk...@gmail.com wrote: > >>> KEYBOARD > >>> > >>> How do I set the "compose" key on the keyboard? I have run several Linux > >>> distributions (base on Debian/Ubuntu) for several years and have had no > >>> problems setting a compose key so that I could enter diacriticals and > >>> symbols like the em-dash and the Spanish upside down exclamation and > >>> question marks. > >> > >> IIRC there's no gui setting in XFCE for setting a compose key. I don't > >> use such key myself but I guess you can edit dom0's > >> /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf and add XkbOptions there (eg. > >> Option "XkbOptions" "compose:menu"). Run `grep "compose:" > >> /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.lst` to find what keys you can use. > >> > > > > The default key combo is Shift+AltGR - enabled by default in X > > You can also set XkbOptions compose: in /etc/default/keyboard > > I thought that /etc/default/keyboard was only for debian and > derivatives. Are you sure it works for fedora ? Not really a Fedora person. Probably not. :-( On the other hand, I *do* find a GUI way of setting the key under System Settings/Keyboard in KDE, and in Xfce, under SystemTools-Keyboard-Layout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20190116004325.scbjumkfrurwrlgy%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Keyboard and mouse issue (R 4.0.1)
On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 at 9:08:48 AM UTC-6, Ivan Mitev wrote: > On 1/15/19 2:42 PM, unman wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 09:26:31AM +0200, Ivan Mitev wrote: > >> > >> > >> On 1/15/19 3:36 AM, jrg.desk...@gmail.com wrote: > >>> KEYBOARD > >>> > >>> How do I set the "compose" key on the keyboard? I have run several Linux > >>> distributions (base on Debian/Ubuntu) for several years and have had no > >>> problems setting a compose key so that I could enter diacriticals and > >>> symbols like the em-dash and the Spanish upside down exclamation and > >>> question marks. > >> > >> IIRC there's no gui setting in XFCE for setting a compose key. I don't > >> use such key myself but I guess you can edit dom0's > >> /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf and add XkbOptions there (eg. > >> Option "XkbOptions" "compose:menu"). Run `grep "compose:" > >> /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.lst` to find what keys you can use. > >> > > > > The default key combo is Shift+AltGR - enabled by default in X > > You can also set XkbOptions compose: in /etc/default/keyboard > > I thought that /etc/default/keyboard was only for debian and > derivatives. Are you sure it works for fedora ? First things first :-) When trying out keyboard changes, I wanted them to apply globally (they work just fine when I use setxkbmap..., thanks) and so made a change in dom0. Since the test change did not seem to work, I thought I would try a complete reboot (imagining that when dom0 starts up, it reads its configuration files and then doesn't reread them after that). What a surprise -- my mouse reverted to being left-handed! I have no idea why (other than the reboot) or why it reverted to right-handed (other than the sys-usb VM being set up). Any way, the problem has "gone away". Now for the keyboard changes. As I indicated, I wanted to turn off the Caps Lock key and set a "compose" key. I launched a dom0 terminal and sudo'ed to root. Then I edited the file "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf" and added the XkbOptions line. It now reads: Section "InputClass" Identifier "system-keyboard" MatchIsKeyboard "on" Option "XkbLayout" "us" Option "XkbOptions" "caps:none" EndSection After rebooting, the Caps Lock key is now off in all Qubes :-) However, I am not sure of the syntax of this file and do not want to make an error in the file in case it makes my keyboard inactive. Can I change that last Option line to: Option "XkbOptions" "caps:none compose:menu" or do need to use a comma to separate the two options (could not find this information in the Wikipedia article) OR, possibly use: Option "XkbOptions" "caps:none" Option "XkbOptions" "compose:menu" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/9620fddf-1d52-4168-85cd-55fd79a46487%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Keyboard and mouse issue (R 4.0.1)
On 1/15/19 2:42 PM, unman wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 09:26:31AM +0200, Ivan Mitev wrote: >> >> >> On 1/15/19 3:36 AM, jrg.desk...@gmail.com wrote: >>> KEYBOARD >>> >>> How do I set the "compose" key on the keyboard? I have run several Linux >>> distributions (base on Debian/Ubuntu) for several years and have had no >>> problems setting a compose key so that I could enter diacriticals and >>> symbols like the em-dash and the Spanish upside down exclamation and >>> question marks. >> >> IIRC there's no gui setting in XFCE for setting a compose key. I don't >> use such key myself but I guess you can edit dom0's >> /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf and add XkbOptions there (eg. >> Option "XkbOptions" "compose:menu"). Run `grep "compose:" >> /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.lst` to find what keys you can use. >> > > The default key combo is Shift+AltGR - enabled by default in X > You can also set XkbOptions compose: in /etc/default/keyboard I thought that /etc/default/keyboard was only for debian and derivatives. Are you sure it works for fedora ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1bb509df-da41-5551-95a0-f02bea7a6e3a%40maa.bz. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Keyboard and mouse issue (R 4.0.1)
On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 09:26:31AM +0200, Ivan Mitev wrote: > > > On 1/15/19 3:36 AM, jrg.desk...@gmail.com wrote: > > KEYBOARD > > > > How do I set the "compose" key on the keyboard? I have run several Linux > > distributions (base on Debian/Ubuntu) for several years and have had no > > problems setting a compose key so that I could enter diacriticals and > > symbols like the em-dash and the Spanish upside down exclamation and > > question marks. > > IIRC there's no gui setting in XFCE for setting a compose key. I don't > use such key myself but I guess you can edit dom0's > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf and add XkbOptions there (eg. > Option "XkbOptions" "compose:menu"). Run `grep "compose:" > /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.lst` to find what keys you can use. > The default key combo is Shift+AltGR - enabled by default in X You can also set XkbOptions compose: in /etc/default/keyboard > Alternatively, set up an autostart command - you now know how to do > that:) - and run setxkbmap like so: > > setxkbmap -option compose:menu > > Note: keyboard settings are propagated from dom0 to VMs so you simply > need to set them in dom0 to have them working in all the VMs. However I > found that this was unreliable when switching languages - in case that's > something you have to configure see [1] for a workaround. > > > The other issue with the keyboard involves disabling the Caps Lock key (I > > am a fumble-fingered 73-year old and the caps lock key is the bane of my > > typing existence). > > XkbOptions: caps:none > > or, > > setxkbmap -option "caps:none" > > Combined with the above: > > setxkbmap -option "caps:none compose:menu" > > > > MOUSE > > > > Before using the "Salt" method of setting up a sys-usb VM, I had my mouse > > set as left-handed. Then I got sys-usb set up. The mouse reverted to > > right-handed, but when I checked the System Tools --> Mouse and Touchpad, > > it indicated the mouse was left-handed. > > > > But it is not :-( Changing the setting to right-handed and then back had > > no effect. I have searched the menus to no avail. Adding "Settings" to the > > sys-usb VM menu and then trying to invoke it failed. > > Sorry, can't really help here; hopefully other users will chime in. > > Dumb question though: are you sure you selected the right (no pun > intended) mouse in System Tools --> Mouse and Touchpad ? On my system I > have 3 mice - the laptop's trackpoint, touchpad and an external usb > mouse ; I just tried to set the right/left handed setting for each of > them (the setting works individually for each mouse) and it worked. Yes, making change in Systen Tools has always worked for me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20190115124244.zrzfvqmsirxak5py%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Keyboard and mouse issue (R 4.0.1)
On 1/15/19 3:36 AM, jrg.desk...@gmail.com wrote: > KEYBOARD > > How do I set the "compose" key on the keyboard? I have run several Linux > distributions (base on Debian/Ubuntu) for several years and have had no > problems setting a compose key so that I could enter diacriticals and symbols > like the em-dash and the Spanish upside down exclamation and question marks. IIRC there's no gui setting in XFCE for setting a compose key. I don't use such key myself but I guess you can edit dom0's /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf and add XkbOptions there (eg. Option "XkbOptions" "compose:menu"). Run `grep "compose:" /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.lst` to find what keys you can use. Alternatively, set up an autostart command - you now know how to do that:) - and run setxkbmap like so: setxkbmap -option compose:menu Note: keyboard settings are propagated from dom0 to VMs so you simply need to set them in dom0 to have them working in all the VMs. However I found that this was unreliable when switching languages - in case that's something you have to configure see [1] for a workaround. > The other issue with the keyboard involves disabling the Caps Lock key (I am > a fumble-fingered 73-year old and the caps lock key is the bane of my typing > existence). XkbOptions: caps:none or, setxkbmap -option "caps:none" Combined with the above: setxkbmap -option "caps:none compose:menu" > MOUSE > > Before using the "Salt" method of setting up a sys-usb VM, I had my mouse set > as left-handed. Then I got sys-usb set up. The mouse reverted to > right-handed, but when I checked the System Tools --> Mouse and Touchpad, it > indicated the mouse was left-handed. > > But it is not :-( Changing the setting to right-handed and then back had no > effect. I have searched the menus to no avail. Adding "Settings" to the > sys-usb VM menu and then trying to invoke it failed. Sorry, can't really help here; hopefully other users will chime in. Dumb question though: are you sure you selected the right (no pun intended) mouse in System Tools --> Mouse and Touchpad ? On my system I have 3 mice - the laptop's trackpoint, touchpad and an external usb mouse ; I just tried to set the right/left handed setting for each of them (the setting works individually for each mouse) and it worked. [1] https://github.com/Qubes-Community/Contents/blob/master/docs/localization/keyboard-multiple-layouts.md#alternative-setups -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/77d87836-c7f6-cd24-460a-1a1f5626553c%40maa.bz. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Keyboard and mouse issue (R 4.0.1)
KEYBOARD How do I set the "compose" key on the keyboard? I have run several Linux distributions (base on Debian/Ubuntu) for several years and have had no problems setting a compose key so that I could enter diacriticals and symbols like the em-dash and the Spanish upside down exclamation and question marks. The other issue with the keyboard involves disabling the Caps Lock key (I am a fumble-fingered 73-year old and the caps lock key is the bane of my typing existence). MOUSE Before using the "Salt" method of setting up a sys-usb VM, I had my mouse set as left-handed. Then I got sys-usb set up. The mouse reverted to right-handed, but when I checked the System Tools --> Mouse and Touchpad, it indicated the mouse was left-handed. But it is not :-( Changing the setting to right-handed and then back had no effect. I have searched the menus to no avail. Adding "Settings" to the sys-usb VM menu and then trying to invoke it failed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/d053e38d-0707-4eb0-89d1-3c8a8d6d93e0%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
