[qubes-users] Re: Anyone disabled the Intel ME yet?
On Monday, 18 September 2017 13:33:31 UTC-7, alexc...@gmail.com wrote: > Has anyone here successfully disabled the Intel ME yet? Purism says they are diabling it by default on all laptops they are sending out now. Ref: https://puri.sm/posts/deep-dive-into-intel-me-disablement/ Now if only the hardware was just slightly more powerfull and future oriented. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/9e0e4519-012d-4b92-8ebd-e70f95377f6b%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Anyone disabled the Intel ME yet?
i would find a list of annoyances with qubes 4 on a librem 15 helpful. im thinking of getting one. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/99e8ad7f-c101-437f-89e9-1298c8054eb1%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Anyone disabled the Intel ME yet?
> On 25 Sep 2017, at 07:45, rysiek wrote: > > These are not really good options for laptops. :( I am running Qubes 4.0 rc 1 on a librem purism 15v3. I believe (may be wrong) that it comes with ME disabled. Seems a great laptop so far with a couple of small annoyances which I’m happy to post to the list separately if people would find that helpful. Sean Sent from my phone. Sorry if brief. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/136A1245-F072-44E5-87FD-E67F8AEC5986%40uncarved.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Anyone disabled the Intel ME yet?
On 09/25/2017 08:45 AM, rysiek wrote: > Dnia Sunday, September 24, 2017 9:23:06 PM EEST filtration pisze: >> My motherboard has a "Disable ME" jumper. Not good enough for many >> of you, I know. >> >> As far as AMT, apparently the entry is through Intel NICs. I hoped >> to mitigate it by using a third party NIC. The Intel device stayed >> lit (amber, not green) on power off, my new one is completely off >> when powered off. > > These are not really good options for laptops. :( > They may even be worse - I used to have a tablet with a "Intel ME Disable" option in the bios, and tried to flip that setting. The tablet would not start anymore, and had to buy a clip to reflash the bios eeprom to be able to recover it. -- Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/4009ccf0-6eec-fa32-c42b-7809a2ccfc75%40gmx.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Anyone disabled the Intel ME yet?
Dnia Sunday, September 24, 2017 9:23:06 PM EEST filtration pisze: > My motherboard has a "Disable ME" jumper. Not good enough for many of > you, I know. > > As far as AMT, apparently the entry is through Intel NICs. I hoped to > mitigate it by using a third party NIC. The Intel device stayed lit > (amber, not green) on power off, my new one is completely off when > powered off. These are not really good options for laptops. :( -- Pozdrawiam, Michał "rysiek" Woźniak Zmieniam klucz GPG :: http://rys.io/pl/147 GPG Key Transition :: http://rys.io/en/147 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/2185343.oOzdqdhnf9%40lapuntu. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[qubes-users] Re: Anyone disabled the Intel ME yet?
cooloutac: > On Sunday, September 24, 2017 at 8:24:44 PM UTC-4, cooloutac wrote: >> On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 12:08:41 PM UTC-4, Hugo Costa wrote: >>> On Thursday, 21 September 2017 07:23:01 UTC+1, Alex wrote: Replying to this thread to report that somebody DID ACTUALLY find an exploitable vulnerability in the latest IME 11+, and they will be sharing nothing less that this UNSIGNED CODE EXECUTION vuln at blackhat europe 2017. Abstract here: https://www.blackhat.com/eu-17/briefings/schedule/#how-to-hack-a-turned-off-computer-or-running-unsigned-code-in-intel-management-engine-8668 Title is pretty scary, but we'll see if it's actually that dangerous -- Alex >>> >>> Was going to post the same. 2 Russian researchers that a couple weeks ago >>> found out a way to clean some modules on Intel ME now have found a >>> significative exploit that allows them to actually run code on a piece of >>> hardware with direct access to the network. The scary thing is - it's >>> impossible to detect. >> >> and thats prolly just what we know about lol. > > I feel like cause I live in nyc that you just expect this type of stuff from > your friends and neighbors hahaha. maybe not the same means but the same > ends. but ya hardware level stuff is scary, cause that means real security > means alot of money, so poor people are screwed. > My motherboard has a "Disable ME" jumper. Not good enough for many of you, I know. As far as AMT, apparently the entry is through Intel NICs. I hoped to mitigate it by using a third party NIC. The Intel device stayed lit (amber, not green) on power off, my new one is completely off when powered off. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/c6467dfa-2bb1-e0ec-8b3a-f433d228332a%40posteo.de. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.