Re: [qubes-users] equivalent of grub kernel parameters on qubes?

2019-12-22 Thread 244clarendonst


On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:53:47 UTC, unman wrote:
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 09:36:50AM -0700, Guerlan wrote: 
> > ...
> > 
> > 
> I'm starting to think you are ideologically wedded to top-posting. 
> Believe me, once you've tried bottom posting you will never understand 
> why you did this. 
> I guess your mail software outs the cursor at the top of the message 
> when you h=it "Reply". ... 
>


On some packages & web interfaces it is worse than that :(

For example on the gmail app for Android, it hides the quoted text, so it is
far too easy for a newcomer to this forum to not even realise what you meant
when you said "scroll to the bottom of the text."

To be able to bottom post on such platforms, you need to enable the quoted 
text,
typically and confusingly Google calls this "Respond in line". Having done 
that,
the user can then follow your advice to scroll past deleting on the way.

I know this is off topic, but we can help ppl do things the Qubes way if we 
all
try to give them the most detailed advice.

Bottom posting reads better, but so many other forums use top posting, and 
too
many apps nudge this behaviour, so we are likely to have to go on 
explaining this.

R~~

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Re: [qubes-users] equivalent of grub kernel parameters on qubes?

2019-12-20 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
Guerlan:

> Am I doing things rigth now?

Pretty much, thank you. It's also considerate to trim parts of the prior
thread that are no longer under active discussion, or needed for context.

> So, xen.cfg contains things like
> 
> default=4.19.71-1.pvops.qubes.x86_64
> 
> [4.14.74-1.pvops.qubes.x86_64]
> options=loglvl=all dom0_mem=min:1024M dom0_mem=max:4096M iommu=no-igfx 
> ucode=scan smt=off
> kernel=vmlinuz-4.14.74-1.pvops.qubes.x86_64 
> root=/dev/mapper/qubes_dom0-root rd.luks.uuid=luks-39... 
> rd.lvm.lv=qubes_dom0/root rd.lvm.lv=qubes_dom0/swap i915.alpha_support=1 
> rhgb quiet plymouth.ignore-serial-consoles
> ramdisk=initramfs-4.14.74-1.pvops.qubes.x86_64.img
> [4.19.71-1.pvops.qubes.x86_64]
> 
> which seem to be configuratioons to xen. 

That's correct, but the kernel= line also passes along kernel
configuration options. For example, i915.alpha_support=1 is a kernel
option, not Xen. Add your custom options at the end of that line.

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Re: [qubes-users] equivalent of grub kernel parameters on qubes?

2019-12-19 Thread Guerlan


On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 9:53:47 AM UTC-3, unman wrote:
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 09:36:50AM -0700, Guerlan wrote: 
> > I scrolled and couldn't find what you suggested. 
> > 
> > The contents of /boot/efi/EFI is a qubes folder which has qubes kernels 
> and 
> > xen.cfg, xen.efi 
> > 
> > On Monday, October 28, 2019 at 11:35:06 AM UTC-3, unman wrote: 
> > > 
> > > On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 10:07:25PM -0700, Guerlan wrote: 
> > > > I tried to locate that file on dom0 but I couldn't find. Was it 
> supposed 
> > > to 
> > > > be elsewhere? (yes, I installed with UEFI) 
> > > > 
> > > > On Sunday, October 27, 2019 at 11:59:05 AM UTC-3, unman wrote: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 05:41:37PM -0700, Guerlan wrote: 
> > > > > > There's a quirk for laptop suspend problem that I want to try on 
> > > Qubes 
> > > > > that 
> > > > > > is the following on Ubuntu: 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > sudo nano /etc/default/grub 
> > > > > > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="button.lid_init_state=open" 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > However dom0 does not have such file. How do I pass kernel 
> > > parameters to 
> > > > > Qubes? 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have that file but I use standard(legacy) boot. Did you install 
> with 
> > > > > UEFI? 
> > > > > If you are using UEFI, I believe you can install a EFI shell and 
> boot 
> > > > > into it to test change parameters. Or you can edit the file at 
> > > > > /boot/efi/EFI/qubes/xen.cfg to add your parameters. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > NB I dont like UEFI and dont use it, but I think that pointer is 
> > > right. 
> > > > > As always, back up any system files before you start changing 
> them. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > unman 
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > The convention on these lists is to post at the bottom of the message, 
> > > so that a new reader can follow the sense by reading downwards. Can 
> you 
> > > try to do that? All you have to do is scroll to the bottom and 
> > > start typing. Thanks. 
> > > 
> > > So do you have /boot/efi/EFI? 
> > > What are contents? 
> > > 
> > 
> I'm starting to think you are ideologically wedded to top-posting. 
> Believe me, once you've tried bottom posting you will never understand 
> why you did this. 
> I guess your mail software outs the cursor at the top of the message 
> when you h=it "Reply". Ignore this broken piece of garbage.Take 
> control. Scroll to the bottom of the message, deleting any 
> unnecessary stuff on the way, and start typing. This will take you 
> seconds, 
> compared to the minutes, perhaps hours, that other users will spend 
> flipping between top and bottom of the message, trying to understand 
> what's going on. 
> Try it. 
>
> e in hand - look at the contents of the (*flip to top of message, 
> sighs*) xen.cfg and xen.efi files. Is one of those the one you are 
> booting from? 
> (Not being a UEFI person - is there really no grub screen?) 
>
> unman 
>


Am I doing things rigth now?

So, xen.cfg contains things like

default=4.19.71-1.pvops.qubes.x86_64

[4.14.74-1.pvops.qubes.x86_64]
options=loglvl=all dom0_mem=min:1024M dom0_mem=max:4096M iommu=no-igfx 
ucode=scan smt=off
kernel=vmlinuz-4.14.74-1.pvops.qubes.x86_64 
root=/dev/mapper/qubes_dom0-root rd.luks.uuid=luks-39... 
rd.lvm.lv=qubes_dom0/root rd.lvm.lv=qubes_dom0/swap i915.alpha_support=1 
rhgb quiet plymouth.ignore-serial-consoles
ramdisk=initramfs-4.14.74-1.pvops.qubes.x86_64.img
[4.19.71-1.pvops.qubes.x86_64]

which seem to be configuratioons to xen. Xen.efi gives me giant text with 
things like this:

ativesalloc_host_save_areastartup_cpu_idle_loopacpi_tb_create_local_fadt__trampoline_rel_startget_free_pirqcore2_no_vpmu_opsinject_vmceio_apic_read_remap_rteamd_iommu_setup_ioapic_remappinghpet_deinitvtd_ops_preamble_quirkvioapic_initsvm_vmexit_do_stgifree_domheap_pagesprocess_pending_softirqsnsvm_hap_walk_L1_p2mrangeset_domain_printkmcheck_initsetup_ept_dumpmapcache_vcpu_initmachine_to_phys_mapping_validautogen_entrypointsapic_versionpirq_shared__stop_bug_frames_0vcpu_restore_fpu_lazypaging_domain_initp2m_get_p2mpage_unlockdo_hvm_opdomain_pausecpufreq_gov_userspace__update_guest_eiplowmem_kbcontext_savedsvm_asid_initarch_do_vcpu_opcontinue_hypercall_on_cpuiommu_pt_cleanup_listinit_guest_l4_tablehvm_get_tsc_scaling_rationode_online_mapvmx_pin_based_exec_controlmemguard_guard_rangehvm_x2apic_msr_writevideo_flagsacpi_initialize_tablesserial_endbootsimple_strtoulldomain_unpause_by_systemcontrollercpupool_get_by_idcmci_supportmcequirk

There's no grub screen as far as I know. It boots to a log screen with very 
small resolution and them qubes password input appears

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Re: [qubes-users] equivalent of grub kernel parameters on qubes?

2019-10-30 Thread unman
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 09:36:50AM -0700, Guerlan wrote:
> I scrolled and couldn't find what you suggested.
> 
> The contents of /boot/efi/EFI is a qubes folder which has qubes kernels and 
> xen.cfg, xen.efi
> 
> On Monday, October 28, 2019 at 11:35:06 AM UTC-3, unman wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 10:07:25PM -0700, Guerlan wrote: 
> > > I tried to locate that file on dom0 but I couldn't find. Was it supposed 
> > to 
> > > be elsewhere? (yes, I installed with UEFI) 
> > > 
> > > On Sunday, October 27, 2019 at 11:59:05 AM UTC-3, unman wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 05:41:37PM -0700, Guerlan wrote: 
> > > > > There's a quirk for laptop suspend problem that I want to try on 
> > Qubes 
> > > > that 
> > > > > is the following on Ubuntu: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > sudo nano /etc/default/grub 
> > > > > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="button.lid_init_state=open" 
> > > > > 
> > > > > However dom0 does not have such file. How do I pass kernel 
> > parameters to 
> > > > Qubes? 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I have that file but I use standard(legacy) boot. Did you install with 
> > > > UEFI? 
> > > > If you are using UEFI, I believe you can install a EFI shell and boot 
> > > > into it to test change parameters. Or you can edit the file at 
> > > > /boot/efi/EFI/qubes/xen.cfg to add your parameters. 
> > > > 
> > > > NB I dont like UEFI and dont use it, but I think that pointer is 
> > right. 
> > > > As always, back up any system files before you start changing them. 
> > > > 
> > > > unman 
> > > > 
> >
> > The convention on these lists is to post at the bottom of the message, 
> > so that a new reader can follow the sense by reading downwards. Can you 
> > try to do that? All you have to do is scroll to the bottom and 
> > start typing. Thanks. 
> >
> > So do you have /boot/efi/EFI? 
> > What are contents? 
> >
> 
I'm starting to think you are ideologically wedded to top-posting.
Believe me, once you've tried bottom posting you will never understand
why you did this.
I guess your mail software outs the cursor at the top of the message
when you h=it "Reply". Ignore this broken piece of garbage.Take
control. Scroll to the bottom of the message, deleting any
unnecessary stuff on the way, and start typing. This will take you seconds,
compared to the minutes, perhaps hours, that other users will spend
flipping between top and bottom of the message, trying to understand
what's going on.
Try it.

e in hand - look at the contents of the (*flip to top of message,
sighs*) xen.cfg and xen.efi files. Is one of those the one you are
booting from?
(Not being a UEFI person - is there really no grub screen?)

unman

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Re: [qubes-users] equivalent of grub kernel parameters on qubes?

2019-10-28 Thread Guerlan
I scrolled and couldn't find what you suggested.

The contents of /boot/efi/EFI is a qubes folder which has qubes kernels and 
xen.cfg, xen.efi

On Monday, October 28, 2019 at 11:35:06 AM UTC-3, unman wrote:
>
> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 10:07:25PM -0700, Guerlan wrote: 
> > I tried to locate that file on dom0 but I couldn't find. Was it supposed 
> to 
> > be elsewhere? (yes, I installed with UEFI) 
> > 
> > On Sunday, October 27, 2019 at 11:59:05 AM UTC-3, unman wrote: 
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 05:41:37PM -0700, Guerlan wrote: 
> > > > There's a quirk for laptop suspend problem that I want to try on 
> Qubes 
> > > that 
> > > > is the following on Ubuntu: 
> > > > 
> > > > sudo nano /etc/default/grub 
> > > > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="button.lid_init_state=open" 
> > > > 
> > > > However dom0 does not have such file. How do I pass kernel 
> parameters to 
> > > Qubes? 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I have that file but I use standard(legacy) boot. Did you install with 
> > > UEFI? 
> > > If you are using UEFI, I believe you can install a EFI shell and boot 
> > > into it to test change parameters. Or you can edit the file at 
> > > /boot/efi/EFI/qubes/xen.cfg to add your parameters. 
> > > 
> > > NB I dont like UEFI and dont use it, but I think that pointer is 
> right. 
> > > As always, back up any system files before you start changing them. 
> > > 
> > > unman 
> > > 
>
> The convention on these lists is to post at the bottom of the message, 
> so that a new reader can follow the sense by reading downwards. Can you 
> try to do that? All you have to do is scroll to the bottom and 
> start typing. Thanks. 
>
> So do you have /boot/efi/EFI? 
> What are contents? 
>

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Re: [qubes-users] equivalent of grub kernel parameters on qubes?

2019-10-28 Thread unman
On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 10:07:25PM -0700, Guerlan wrote:
> I tried to locate that file on dom0 but I couldn't find. Was it supposed to 
> be elsewhere? (yes, I installed with UEFI)
> 
> On Sunday, October 27, 2019 at 11:59:05 AM UTC-3, unman wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 05:41:37PM -0700, Guerlan wrote: 
> > > There's a quirk for laptop suspend problem that I want to try on Qubes 
> > that 
> > > is the following on Ubuntu: 
> > > 
> > > sudo nano /etc/default/grub 
> > > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="button.lid_init_state=open" 
> > > 
> > > However dom0 does not have such file. How do I pass kernel parameters to 
> > Qubes? 
> > > 
> >
> > I have that file but I use standard(legacy) boot. Did you install with 
> > UEFI? 
> > If you are using UEFI, I believe you can install a EFI shell and boot 
> > into it to test change parameters. Or you can edit the file at 
> > /boot/efi/EFI/qubes/xen.cfg to add your parameters. 
> >
> > NB I dont like UEFI and dont use it, but I think that pointer is right. 
> > As always, back up any system files before you start changing them. 
> >
> > unman 
> >

The convention on these lists is to post at the bottom of the message,
so that a new reader can follow the sense by reading downwards. Can you
try to do that? All you have to do is scroll to the bottom and
start typing. Thanks.

So do you have /boot/efi/EFI?
What are contents?

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Re: [qubes-users] equivalent of grub kernel parameters on qubes?

2019-10-27 Thread Guerlan
I tried to locate that file on dom0 but I couldn't find. Was it supposed to 
be elsewhere? (yes, I installed with UEFI)

On Sunday, October 27, 2019 at 11:59:05 AM UTC-3, unman wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 05:41:37PM -0700, Guerlan wrote: 
> > There's a quirk for laptop suspend problem that I want to try on Qubes 
> that 
> > is the following on Ubuntu: 
> > 
> > sudo nano /etc/default/grub 
> > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="button.lid_init_state=open" 
> > 
> > However dom0 does not have such file. How do I pass kernel parameters to 
> Qubes? 
> > 
>
> I have that file but I use standard(legacy) boot. Did you install with 
> UEFI? 
> If you are using UEFI, I believe you can install a EFI shell and boot 
> into it to test change parameters. Or you can edit the file at 
> /boot/efi/EFI/qubes/xen.cfg to add your parameters. 
>
> NB I dont like UEFI and dont use it, but I think that pointer is right. 
> As always, back up any system files before you start changing them. 
>
> unman 
>

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Re: [qubes-users] equivalent of grub kernel parameters on qubes?

2019-10-27 Thread unman
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 05:41:37PM -0700, Guerlan wrote:
> There's a quirk for laptop suspend problem that I want to try on Qubes that 
> is the following on Ubuntu:
> 
> sudo nano /etc/default/grub
> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="button.lid_init_state=open"
> 
> However dom0 does not have such file. How do I pass kernel parameters to 
> Qubes?
> 

I have that file but I use standard(legacy) boot. Did you install with UEFI?
If you are using UEFI, I believe you can install a EFI shell and boot
into it to test change parameters. Or you can edit the file at
/boot/efi/EFI/qubes/xen.cfg to add your parameters.

NB I dont like UEFI and dont use it, but I think that pointer is right.
As always, back up any system files before you start changing them.

unman

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[qubes-users] equivalent of grub kernel parameters on qubes?

2019-10-25 Thread Guerlan
There's a quirk for laptop suspend problem that I want to try on Qubes that 
is the following on Ubuntu:

sudo nano /etc/default/grub
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="button.lid_init_state=open"

However dom0 does not have such file. How do I pass kernel parameters to Qubes?

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