Re: [qubes-users] fedora template rpm refuses to go away?

2020-01-05 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
River~~:

> Attempts to remove it with
> 
> dnf remove qubes-template-fedora-30
> 
> initially claim that one package will be removed (so no dependencies,
> right?) saving 5G space. However it goes on to fail as the pre-uninstall
> triggers fail. The error message appears twice.

Nothing in qubes-prefs referencing it? If not, could be a bug.

> I'm also wondering if it's actually a bug in the pre un triggers, and they
> are being over protective; in which case that's a different issue.
> 
> But before raising either as an issue I'd like to understand which (if any)
> of these apply. So my questions are:
> 
> 1. does Dom0 actually depend internally the fedora template somehow, even
> though it is not using it as a template in the normal Qubes way?

Shouldn't!

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[qubes-users] fedora template rpm refuses to go away?

2020-01-05 Thread River~~
Hi all,

Just did a new install of the shiny new R 4.0.2 (not the rc!).

((Judging by the date on some of the rpm packages some of the Qubes team
spent Christmas day building packages - a nice present to the community,
thank you and seasons greetings))

I saved all the VMs from rc3 to restore to the new system and so installed
with no extra software, no Debian no Whonix from anaconda. Later on the
first boot I selected the bottom checkbox to not configure anything.

During the install I noticed that anaconda spends quite a long time
installing the fedora template package (the progress bar stools for a
while). This is mildly irritating as I base everything on Debian, apart
from Dom0 of course, bit that does not use a template (or at least not
visibly so)

So, as expected, no fedora template shown in Qube manager. It's still
listed by

dnf list installed

Attempts to remove it with

dnf remove qubes-template-fedora-30

initially claim that one package will be removed (so no dependencies,
right?) saving 5G space. However it goes on to fail as the pre-uninstall
triggers fail. The error message appears twice.

If most of that package is not being used in my use case, it would be nice
to be able to save most of that 5G of space -- so my question is whether
all, most, a little, or none of the package is used by a Qubes system
that's not using fedora templates?

I'm wondering whether to raise an issue to request refactoring of the
template rpm into the parts needed only by the template as a template and
the parts needed by Dom0 or other parts of Qubes.

I'm also wondering if it's actually a bug in the pre un triggers, and they
are being over protective; in which case that's a different issue.

But before raising either as an issue I'd like to understand which (if any)
of these apply. So my questions are:

1. does Dom0 actually depend internally the fedora template somehow, even
though it is not using it as a template in the normal Qubes way?

2. And what approximate proportion of the software in that package is
unused when there is no fedora template?

Happy New Year to all the Qubes devs, and all the unofficial experts who
share their time on this list

R~~

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