Re: [EXT] Re: [qubes-users] Qubes OS: .onion and links

2020-12-07 Thread Andrew David Wong 

On 12/7/20 3:58 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote:

On 12/6/20 5:13 PM, unman wrote:

On Mon, Dec 07, 2020 at 02:07:03AM +0100, Ulrich Windl wrote:

On 12/1/20 7:35 PM, 'disrupt_the_flow' via qubes-users wrote:

On November 30, 2020 8:15:14 PM UTC, Ulrich Windl
 wrote:

 Hi!

 I noticed when I click the link "upgrading Fedora TemplateVMs" 
found on
 the onion version of the page (using the tor browser of 
whonix), you are

 directed to a non-onion page
 (https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade/),  
  and 
you'll have

 to switch to onion again.

 In contrast when I click news items on
 
http://qubesosfasa4zl44o4tws22di6kepyzfeqv3tg4e3ztknltfxqrymdad.onion/news/ 


 I remain on onion sites.

 Regards,
 Ulrich


Hello Ulrich. What page exactly? I can't find such a page on the 
QubesOS

website.


http://qubesosfasa4zl44o4tws22di6kepyzfeqv3tg4e3ztknltfxqrymdad.onion/news/2020/06/30/fedora-32-templates-available/ 





Yes, the links on that page are hard coded to the clearnet site rather
than local links.
That's a mistake - but it is not peculiar to this page. A quick check
suggests that (almost?) all the news pages contain such links.
Thanks for pointing this out.



Ah, that's because people asked a long time ago for the News post plain 
text content to be copied into the body of messages to the mailing lists 
(not just a hyperlink to the website). At the time, it seemed easier 
just to include full URLs in the original Markdown source so that the 
plain text could more easily be copy/pasted into messages to the mailing 
lists, since the difference between absolute and relative links on the 
was transparent to users after Jekyll rendering. Of course, we did not 
foresee that something else would come to rely on the links to be 
relative rather than absolute. Now that this is the case, we can simply 
use relative links everywhere (including in these News posts) and write 
out the complete URLs when preparing the plain text content for the 
mailing lists.




I'm also converting existing links from absolute to relative and 
updating the doc guidelines on this point:


https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-posts/pull/73
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-doc/pull/1100

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Re: [EXT] Re: [qubes-users] Qubes OS: .onion and links

2020-12-07 Thread Andrew David Wong 

On 12/6/20 5:13 PM, unman wrote:

On Mon, Dec 07, 2020 at 02:07:03AM +0100, Ulrich Windl wrote:

On 12/1/20 7:35 PM, 'disrupt_the_flow' via qubes-users wrote:

On November 30, 2020 8:15:14 PM UTC, Ulrich Windl
 wrote:

 Hi!

 I noticed when I click the link "upgrading Fedora TemplateVMs" found on
 the onion version of the page (using the tor browser of whonix), you are
 directed to a non-onion page
 (https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade/),  
  and you'll have
 to switch to onion again.

 In contrast when I click news items on
 http://qubesosfasa4zl44o4tws22di6kepyzfeqv3tg4e3ztknltfxqrymdad.onion/news/
 I remain on onion sites.

 Regards,
 Ulrich


Hello Ulrich. What page exactly? I can't find such a page on the QubesOS
website.


http://qubesosfasa4zl44o4tws22di6kepyzfeqv3tg4e3ztknltfxqrymdad.onion/news/2020/06/30/fedora-32-templates-available/



Yes, the links on that page are hard coded to the clearnet site rather
than local links.
That's a mistake - but it is not peculiar to this page. A quick check
suggests that (almost?) all the news pages contain such links.
Thanks for pointing this out.



Ah, that's because people asked a long time ago for the News post plain 
text content to be copied into the body of messages to the mailing lists 
(not just a hyperlink to the website). At the time, it seemed easier 
just to include full URLs in the original Markdown source so that the 
plain text could more easily be copy/pasted into messages to the mailing 
lists, since the difference between absolute and relative links on the 
was transparent to users after Jekyll rendering. Of course, we did not 
foresee that something else would come to rely on the links to be 
relative rather than absolute. Now that this is the case, we can simply 
use relative links everywhere (including in these News posts) and write 
out the complete URLs when preparing the plain text content for the 
mailing lists.


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Re: [EXT] Re: [qubes-users] Qubes OS: .onion and links

2020-12-06 Thread unman 
On Mon, Dec 07, 2020 at 02:07:03AM +0100, Ulrich Windl wrote:
> On 12/1/20 7:35 PM, 'disrupt_the_flow' via qubes-users wrote:
> > On November 30, 2020 8:15:14 PM UTC, Ulrich Windl 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi!
> > 
> > I noticed when I click the link "upgrading Fedora TemplateVMs" found on
> > the onion version of the page (using the tor browser of whonix), you are
> > directed to a non-onion page
> > (https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade/),  
> >   and you'll have
> > to switch to onion again.
> > 
> > In contrast when I click news items on
> > 
> > http://qubesosfasa4zl44o4tws22di6kepyzfeqv3tg4e3ztknltfxqrymdad.onion/news/
> > I remain on onion sites.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Ulrich
> > 
> > 
> > Hello Ulrich. What page exactly? I can't find such a page on the QubesOS 
> > website.
> 
> http://qubesosfasa4zl44o4tws22di6kepyzfeqv3tg4e3ztknltfxqrymdad.onion/news/2020/06/30/fedora-32-templates-available/
> 

Yes, the links on that page are hard coded to the clearnet site rather
than local links.
That's a mistake - but it is not peculiar to this page. A quick check
suggests that (almost?) all the news pages contain such links.
Thanks for pointing this out.

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Re: [EXT] Re: [qubes-users] Qubes OS: .onion and links

2020-12-06 Thread Ulrich Windl 
On 12/1/20 7:35 PM, 'disrupt_the_flow' via qubes-users wrote:
> On November 30, 2020 8:15:14 PM UTC, Ulrich Windl 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I noticed when I click the link "upgrading Fedora TemplateVMs" found on
> the onion version of the page (using the tor browser of whonix), you are
> directed to a non-onion page
> (https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade/),  
>   and you'll have
> to switch to onion again.
> 
> In contrast when I click news items on
> 
> http://qubesosfasa4zl44o4tws22di6kepyzfeqv3tg4e3ztknltfxqrymdad.onion/news/
> I remain on onion sites.
> 
> Regards,
> Ulrich
> 
> 
> Hello Ulrich. What page exactly? I can't find such a page on the QubesOS 
> website.

http://qubesosfasa4zl44o4tws22di6kepyzfeqv3tg4e3ztknltfxqrymdad.onion/news/2020/06/30/fedora-32-templates-available/

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Re: [EXT] Re: [qubes-users] Qubes OS: .onion and links

2020-12-06 Thread Ulrich Windl 
On 12/1/20 7:35 PM, 'disrupt_the_flow' via qubes-users wrote:
> On November 30, 2020 8:15:14 PM UTC, Ulrich Windl 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I noticed when I click the link "upgrading Fedora TemplateVMs" found on
> the onion version of the page (using the tor browser of whonix), you are
> directed to a non-onion page
> (https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade/),  
>   and you'll have
> to switch to onion again.
> 
> In contrast when I click news items on
> 
> http://qubesosfasa4zl44o4tws22di6kepyzfeqv3tg4e3ztknltfxqrymdad.onion/news/
> I remain on onion sites.
> 
> Regards,
> Ulrich
> 
> 
> Hello Ulrich. What page exactly? I can't find such a page on the QubesOS 
> website.

http://qubesosfasa4zl44o4tws22di6kepyzfeqv3tg4e3ztknltfxqrymdad.onion/news/2020/06/30/fedora-32-templates-available/

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