Re: [qubes-users] Question before buying a new laptop
On 10/06/2018 03:07 PM, ben.thomp...@vfemail.net wrote: > Thanks for your reply. > >>> I have a few questions: >>> How well does passing a dedicated graphics card to a vm work / is gaming >>> in a vm feasible or do i still need dual-boot? >> >> Yeah very feasible many people do it including me. > > So what games are possible and are you using a windows or linux guest? > (Sadly there are games not running with wine.) Windows without networking to avoid the spying features. There are however a variety of AAA DRM free games that run native on linux these days. On my KGPE-D16 I just finished the two wolfenstein games and the new prey on max settings I have RX580 and 6328 cpu with 14gb ram assigned to the VM. I suggest purchasing 8gb ecc rdimm sticks as they are the most affordable per gb if you get one. The KCMA-D8 is also a good choice and with that you don't have to deal with NUMA issues. > >> Of course you need the right system you would need an eGPU capable >> laptop such as the W520 which you should install an quad core ivy bridge >> cpu in so you get pci-e 3.0 for the expresscard slot. As always I >> recommend installing coreboot - the ivy/sandy coreboot port has open >> cpu/ram init and supports me cleaner to nerf your me (again disabling is >> impossible) > > Well the W520 is from 2011 and can't be bought anymore and i don't like > to buy hardware second hand. Whats wrong with second hand hardware? You can replace the worn out parts like the keyboard/armrest/lid very easily to the point where you couldn't tell the difference between a new and used laptop. I don't think a circa 2013 cpu is that bad considering what you gain from using it. > Also the processor is a bit weaker. A quad core ivy bridge cpu will be fine I guarantee it. > I know the problem with new CPUs is a ME which can't be properly > deactivated anymore (at least as far as i know), but it seems i have to > accept this, if i want a powerful processor for gaming / work. No you don't have to. What do you want to run that couldn't run on an older laptop but could run on a newer one? > Hence the W520 is not really an option for me (Although it is the better > option from a security standpoint). > > So do you have a suggestion for newer hardware in the same price-range? I don't recommend blatantly insecure hardware which is what new x86 is - it is all junk. See for instance the recent china spying scandal where they inserted a backdoor chip on the motherboard and that is probably just the tip of the iceberg. The future of real owner controlled, open source firmware, high performance hardware is non-x86, such as POWER systems like the raptor talos 2, raptor blackbird, etc. Of course made in usa is a must for security reasons and the OpenPOWER9 CPU's are made here as well as those boards. I hope that xen/qubes will soon support POWER - but I argue that POWER-KVM is more secure than xen on a black box x86 platform. In terms of gaming you aren't going to get good performance on a laptop which is why I always suggest obtaining an owner controlled no psp/me libre-firmware available desktop system board like the KCMA-D8/KGPE-D16 (runs qubes 4.0 great) plus a g505s for your no psp/me owner controlled laptop which has open cpu/ram init via coreboot. For laptop gaming via eGPU you can re-direct the output to the internal screen if both the iGPU and the eGPU are assigned to the same VM - very difficult though and of course graphics assignment weakens your security in a variety of ways so I would simply have a dedicated gaming device if you can afford it. Let me know if you find this advice helpful - I am always pleased to answer the expert questions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/105b2ee6-b32e-7d7e-52fd-d5eb9c48509a%40gmx.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Question before buying a new laptop
Thanks for your reply. I have a few questions: How well does passing a dedicated graphics card to a vm work / is gaming in a vm feasible or do i still need dual-boot? Yeah very feasible many people do it including me. So what games are possible and are you using a windows or linux guest? (Sadly there are games not running with wine.) Of course you need the right system you would need an eGPU capable laptop such as the W520 which you should install an quad core ivy bridge cpu in so you get pci-e 3.0 for the expresscard slot. As always I recommend installing coreboot - the ivy/sandy coreboot port has open cpu/ram init and supports me cleaner to nerf your me (again disabling is impossible) Well the W520 is from 2011 and can't be bought anymore and i don't like to buy hardware second hand. Also the processor is a bit weaker. I know the problem with new CPUs is a ME which can't be properly deactivated anymore (at least as far as i know), but it seems i have to accept this, if i want a powerful processor for gaming / work. Hence the W520 is not really an option for me (Although it is the better option from a security standpoint). So do you have a suggestion for newer hardware in the same price-range? No such thing as a lifetime account FYI, eventually these services get too top heavy and run out of money. good enough for a burner account... - ONLY AT VFEmail! - Use our Metadata Mitigator to keep your email out of the NSA's hands! $24.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20181006190723.Horde.A0oG6AHJHXvh8RoFNJApNyy%40vfemail.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Question before buying a new laptop
On 10/02/2018 04:53 AM, ben.thomp...@vfemail.net wrote: > Hi, > some time ago i discovered qubes, but my laptop did not support it and i > did not follow the developments. > Now my old laptop is broken and i am about to buy a new one. This question has been asked and then answered like 20+ times by me, twice in the last week. > > I have a few questions: > How well does passing a dedicated graphics card to a vm work / is gaming > in a vm feasible or do i still need dual-boot? Yeah very feasible many people do it including me. Of course you need the right system you would need an eGPU capable laptop such as the W520 which you should install an quad core ivy bridge cpu in so you get pci-e 3.0 for the expresscard slot. As always I recommend installing coreboot - the ivy/sandy coreboot port has open cpu/ram init and supports me cleaner to nerf your me (again disabling is impossible) I would probably just pick up a workstation board like the KCMA-D8 though as laptop dgpu gaming needs an external monitor if you want to do it in a VM. > > Did anyone try a Lenovo Legion Y530 and can me write how well it works > with qubes? (i would upgrade the ram to 16 or 32 GB) > (I did not see any entry in the list (https://www.qubes-os.org/hcl/).) > > Best > ben > > > - > > ONLY AT VFEmail! - Use our Metadata Mitigator to keep your email out of > the NSA's hands! Haha. > $24.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No > bandwidth quotas! No such thing as a lifetime account FYI, eventually these services get too top heavy and run out of money. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/fd16a5c6-5ee7-04e2-8e50-a76aaa05fb5a%40gmx.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
