Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fedora 24 template available for Qubes 3.2

[Andrew David Wong]

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On 2016-11-17 22:57, Sec Tester wrote:
> Just pointing out that there documentation here needs updating to include 
> commands for fedora-24:
> 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/
> 

Do you mean just the numbers ("23" to "24"), or have some actual commands 
changed?

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fedora 24 template available for Qubes 3.2

[Grzesiek Chodzicki]

W dniu niedziela, 13 listopada 2016 21:30:25 UTC+1 użytkownik Grzesiek 
Chodzicki napisał:
> W dniu niedziela, 13 listopada 2016 20:54:06 UTC+1 użytkownik yaqu napisał:
> > On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 11:23:35 -0800 (PST), Grzesiek Chodzicki
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > > Following error message is printed after running sudo dnf remove
> > > qubes-template-fedora-23: "No match for argument:
> > > qubes-template-fedora-23 Error: No packages marked for removal."
> > 
> > It looks like you do not have this package installed (or you have
> > executed this command in VM instead of dom0).
> > 
> > To get a list of templates installed from rpm in dom0, you can use this
> > command:
> > [user@dom0 ~]$ rpm -qa | grep template
> > 
> > -- 
> > yaqu
> 
> I did execute it in dom0, fedora-23 was installed by default when I installed 
> Qubes on my PC.

Okay, I found a fix. I deleted fedora-23 folder from the templates directory 
and then deleted its entry from qubes.xml. Afterwards I rebuilt the dvm image 
using the qvm-create-default-dvm. All works fine now.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fedora 24 template available for Qubes 3.2

[yaqu]

On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 01:14:24 +0100, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
 wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 12:28:17AM +0100, yaqu wrote:
> > > You have tried to remove fedora-23 using dnf, while some appVMs
> > > still were using it as a template. Dnf has displayed an error,
> > > but also it has removed package, leaving it in qubes config (and
> > > not cleaning template's directory).
> > 
> > Anyway, I think it should be considered as a bug.
> > 
> > Steps to reproduce (assuming fedora-23-minimal is not installed):
> > 
> > $ sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-23-minimal
> > $ qvm-create -t fedora-23-minimal -l red test-vm
> > $ sudo dnf remove qubes-template-fedora-23-minimal
> 
> Yes, you're right. Previously (before Fedora introduced DNF), failure
> in %preun script aborted the operation, now it results just in a
> message. Not sure if this is a bug of a feature of DNF...

Removing package using plain rpm gives the same result, so it's not
dnf's fault.

There is an interesting entry in rpm changelog:
* Fix %preun scriptlet not aborting package erase
http://rpm.org/wiki/Releases/4.13.0

So it's fixed in rpm 4.13.0, but in dom0 we have broken rpm 4.13.0-rc1.

BTW it was fixed in commit:
https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/commit/1ac507f15f014e69b926a1c2bf9a46a2a4dcaff3
And broken in:
https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/commit/f4a49c3d446bb180ca6b30a4337065fb6511e641

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fedora 24 template available for Qubes 3.2

[Marek Marczykowski-Górecki]

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On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 12:28:17AM +0100, yaqu wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 23:06:48 +0100, yaqu 
> wrote:
> 
> > You have tried to remove fedora-23 using dnf, while some appVMs still
> > were using it as a template. Dnf has displayed an error, but also it
> > has removed package, leaving it in qubes config (and not cleaning
> > template's directory).
> 
> Anyway, I think it should be considered as a bug.
> 
> Steps to reproduce (assuming fedora-23-minimal is not installed):
> 
> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-23-minimal
> $ qvm-create -t fedora-23-minimal -l red test-vm
> $ sudo dnf remove qubes-template-fedora-23-minimal

Yes, you're right. Previously (before Fedora introduced DNF), failure in
%preun script aborted the operation, now it results just in a message.
Not sure if this is a bug of a feature of DNF...

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fedora 24 template available for Qubes 3.2

[yaqu]

On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 23:06:48 +0100, yaqu 
wrote:

> You have tried to remove fedora-23 using dnf, while some appVMs still
> were using it as a template. Dnf has displayed an error, but also it
> has removed package, leaving it in qubes config (and not cleaning
> template's directory).

Anyway, I think it should be considered as a bug.

Steps to reproduce (assuming fedora-23-minimal is not installed):

$ sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-23-minimal
$ qvm-create -t fedora-23-minimal -l red test-vm
$ sudo dnf remove qubes-template-fedora-23-minimal

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fedora 24 template available for Qubes 3.2

[Grzesiek Chodzicki]

W dniu niedziela, 13 listopada 2016 23:26:10 UTC+1 użytkownik yaqu napisał:
> On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 12:30:25 -0800 (PST), Grzesiek Chodzicki
>  wrote:
> 
> > W dniu niedziela, 13 listopada 2016 20:54:06 UTC+1 użytkownik yaqu
> > napisał:
> > > 
> > > It looks like you do not have this package installed (or you have
> > > executed this command in VM instead of dom0).
> > > 
> > > To get a list of templates installed from rpm in dom0, you can use
> > > this command:
> > > [user@dom0 ~]$ rpm -qa | grep template
> > 
> > I did execute it in dom0, fedora-23 was installed by default when I
> > installed Qubes on my PC.
> 
> Please, check if your fedora-23 template was really installed from rpm
> (and it wasn't cloned from previous version and upgraded to f23):
> 
> [user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-prefs fedora-23 | grep rpm
> installed_by_rpm   : True
> 
> You can also check this using Qubes VM Manager (in VM settings, tab
> Basic, under "General").
> 
> If your fedora-23 template was not installed from rpm, you can remove
> it using Qubes VM Manager or using command:
> 
> [user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-remove fedora-23
> 
> -- 
> yaqu

qvm-prefs does return true for installed_by_rpm, moreover using qvm-remove 
causes the "this package was installed by rpm" message to appear.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fedora 24 template available for Qubes 3.2

[yaqu]

On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 12:30:25 -0800 (PST), Grzesiek Chodzicki
 wrote:

> W dniu niedziela, 13 listopada 2016 20:54:06 UTC+1 użytkownik yaqu
> napisał:
> > 
> > It looks like you do not have this package installed (or you have
> > executed this command in VM instead of dom0).
> > 
> > To get a list of templates installed from rpm in dom0, you can use
> > this command:
> > [user@dom0 ~]$ rpm -qa | grep template
> 
> I did execute it in dom0, fedora-23 was installed by default when I
> installed Qubes on my PC.

Please, check if your fedora-23 template was really installed from rpm
(and it wasn't cloned from previous version and upgraded to f23):

[user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-prefs fedora-23 | grep rpm
installed_by_rpm   : True

You can also check this using Qubes VM Manager (in VM settings, tab
Basic, under "General").

If your fedora-23 template was not installed from rpm, you can remove
it using Qubes VM Manager or using command:

[user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-remove fedora-23

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fedora 24 template available for Qubes 3.2

[Grzesiek Chodzicki]

W dniu niedziela, 13 listopada 2016 20:54:06 UTC+1 użytkownik yaqu napisał:
> On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 11:23:35 -0800 (PST), Grzesiek Chodzicki
>  wrote:
> 
> > Following error message is printed after running sudo dnf remove
> > qubes-template-fedora-23: "No match for argument:
> > qubes-template-fedora-23 Error: No packages marked for removal."
> 
> It looks like you do not have this package installed (or you have
> executed this command in VM instead of dom0).
> 
> To get a list of templates installed from rpm in dom0, you can use this
> command:
> [user@dom0 ~]$ rpm -qa | grep template
> 
> -- 
> yaqu

I did execute it in dom0, fedora-23 was installed by default when I installed 
Qubes on my PC.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fedora 24 template available for Qubes 3.2

[yaqu]

On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 11:23:35 -0800 (PST), Grzesiek Chodzicki
 wrote:

> Following error message is printed after running sudo dnf remove
> qubes-template-fedora-23: "No match for argument:
> qubes-template-fedora-23 Error: No packages marked for removal."

It looks like you do not have this package installed (or you have
executed this command in VM instead of dom0).

To get a list of templates installed from rpm in dom0, you can use this
command:
[user@dom0 ~]$ rpm -qa | grep template

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fedora 24 template available for Qubes 3.2

[Sec Tester]

> Yes, it is also available - as noted in the message.

And i read too quickly, doh :o)

Look forward to taking 24 for a spin.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fedora 24 template available for Qubes 3.2

[Marek Marczykowski-Górecki]

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On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 08:01:37PM -0800, Sec Tester wrote:
> NICE!!
> 
> Any specific improvements or fixes running Fedora-24?

Nothing specific to Qubes, see upstream release notes for non-Qubes
changes:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/24/html/Release_Notes/

> I noticed F-23 seemed to have trouble playing flash videos for me.
> 
> F-24 Min template coming?

Yes, it is also available - as noted in the message.

> A Deb-8 min template would also be nice :)

Actually, default debian-8 template is already pretty minimal.

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