Re: [qubes-users] Autostart on login in minimal templates
Claudia: > Try putting `systemctl daemon-reload` in rc.local. I haven't tried it, but > this should work, as rc.local itself resides on /rw, so /rw has to be > available by that time. (Arguably the stock rc.local in Qubes templates > should be preinstalled with this line. But then, arguably, systemd should > always automatically reload units any time it mounts something.) I've tried this, and unfortunately it doesn't work IF the goal is to get the units in /usr/local to participate in the boot process. This is because by the time qubes-misc-post.service executes /rw/config/rc.local, the boot process is already well in progress. See my other reply for more details. If the goal is simply to make the /usr/local units available to systemd, for later start/stopping, then it will work. But you cannot enable them to be started at boot. I suppose one could add `systemctl daemon-reload` to rc.local and then a series of `systemctl start your-thing.service` statements, but you still miss out on the benefits of systemd's 'enable' (After,Before, etc). ~abel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/ad4e8e45-d644-ba33-06a0-2801160bcf7c%40guardianproject.info.
Re: [qubes-users] Autostart on login in minimal templates
January 12, 2020 11:33 AM, "Abel Luck" wrote: > The systemd route does seem promising. Thanks. > > If I edited the template vm, I could just put my unit file in > /etc/systemd/system and it would work fine. > > However I'd like to do this for a specific AppVm, so I dropped the unit > file in /usr/local/lib/systemd/system. This file persists across boots > as expected, however systemd doesn't load units from it until I > daemon-reload after boot. > > I suppose this is because /usr/local is symlinked from /rw/usrlocal > sometime after systemd has loaded its units. > > Is there anyway to get systemd to load units from > /usr/local/lib/systemd/system as part of appvm boot? > > ~abel Try putting `systemctl daemon-reload` in rc.local. I haven't tried it, but this should work, as rc.local itself resides on /rw, so /rw has to be available by that time. (Arguably the stock rc.local in Qubes templates should be preinstalled with this line. But then, arguably, systemd should always automatically reload units any time it mounts something.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/d27f149b5018ef1a57c971707e224ef7%40disroot.org.
Re: [qubes-users] Autostart on login in minimal templates
Abel Luck: > The systemd route does seem promising. Thanks. > > If I edited the template vm, I could just put my unit file in > /etc/systemd/system and it would work fine. > > However I'd like to do this for a specific AppVm, so I dropped the unit > file in /usr/local/lib/systemd/system. This file persists across boots > as expected, however systemd doesn't load units from it until I > daemon-reload after boot. > > I suppose this is because /usr/local is symlinked from /rw/usrlocal > sometime after systemd has loaded its units. > > Is there anyway to get systemd to load units from > /usr/local/lib/systemd/system as part of appvm boot? > > ~abel > > Claudia: >> January 11, 2020 2:06 PM, "Abel Luck" wrote: >> >>> Hi there, >>> >>> Using the fedora and debian minimal templates, how can I execute a >>> script on *login*? I'm aware of /rw/config/rc.local, but that runs on >>> system boot. >>> >>> Rather, I want to run something after X11 has initialized and my user is >>> logged in. >>> >>> Since no DE is installed, .desktop files in ~/.config/autostart are not >>> executed in the minimal templates >>> >>> ~abel >> >> Would .xinitrc work? >> >> Systemd units with After=graphical.target and properly configured User=, >> Display=, Session=, Seat=, and/or whatever else might be necessary. Or maybe >> user-mode systemd units. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/User >> >> Or maybe rc.local with `systemctl is-system-running --wait` before your >> commands - I often have to use this with qvm-run. Running from rc.local >> though, commands might not be running as the right >> user/session/seat/slice/scope/whatever, I don't know. Oops, sorry for the top post D: I did some more research and this appears to be a systemd limitation: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/8307 /rw/usrlocal is mounted to /usr/local as part of qubes-mount-dirs.service when a vm is booting. This means the unit files in /usr/local are not visible to systemd. As poettering state in that issue: "unit files have to reside on a partition that is mounted at the moment the host PID 1 is invoked. i.e. either on the root partition or some other partition that the initrd premounts." This is quite sad. I have several use cases for app-vm specific systemd units: * Automount network drive on boot (for backupvm) * Run some special daemons on boot * Execute scripts on user login I guess I'll just need to revist the use of rc scripts :/ (ala https://entropux.net/article/systemd-rc-local-service-with-qubes/) ~abel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/2740ac28-eb6d-c43b-2bf9-67a7ca13601b%40guardianproject.info.
Re: [qubes-users] Autostart on login in minimal templates
The systemd route does seem promising. Thanks. If I edited the template vm, I could just put my unit file in /etc/systemd/system and it would work fine. However I'd like to do this for a specific AppVm, so I dropped the unit file in /usr/local/lib/systemd/system. This file persists across boots as expected, however systemd doesn't load units from it until I daemon-reload after boot. I suppose this is because /usr/local is symlinked from /rw/usrlocal sometime after systemd has loaded its units. Is there anyway to get systemd to load units from /usr/local/lib/systemd/system as part of appvm boot? ~abel Claudia: > January 11, 2020 2:06 PM, "Abel Luck" wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> Using the fedora and debian minimal templates, how can I execute a >> script on *login*? I'm aware of /rw/config/rc.local, but that runs on >> system boot. >> >> Rather, I want to run something after X11 has initialized and my user is >> logged in. >> >> Since no DE is installed, .desktop files in ~/.config/autostart are not >> executed in the minimal templates >> >> ~abel > > Would .xinitrc work? > > Systemd units with After=graphical.target and properly configured User=, > Display=, Session=, Seat=, and/or whatever else might be necessary. Or maybe > user-mode systemd units. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/User > > Or maybe rc.local with `systemctl is-system-running --wait` before your > commands - I often have to use this with qvm-run. Running from rc.local > though, commands might not be running as the right > user/session/seat/slice/scope/whatever, I don't know. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/8cbe83a5-0b2f-b23f-8f41-7221804f2b44%40guardianproject.info.
Re: [qubes-users] Autostart on login in minimal templates
January 11, 2020 2:06 PM, "Abel Luck" wrote: > Hi there, > > Using the fedora and debian minimal templates, how can I execute a > script on *login*? I'm aware of /rw/config/rc.local, but that runs on > system boot. > > Rather, I want to run something after X11 has initialized and my user is > logged in. > > Since no DE is installed, .desktop files in ~/.config/autostart are not > executed in the minimal templates > > ~abel Would .xinitrc work? Systemd units with After=graphical.target and properly configured User=, Display=, Session=, Seat=, and/or whatever else might be necessary. Or maybe user-mode systemd units. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/User Or maybe rc.local with `systemctl is-system-running --wait` before your commands - I often have to use this with qvm-run. Running from rc.local though, commands might not be running as the right user/session/seat/slice/scope/whatever, I don't know. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/cb9602caf03cf1401b51e2bb40a8cbb2%40disroot.org.
[qubes-users] Autostart on login in minimal templates
Hi there, Using the fedora and debian minimal templates, how can I execute a script on *login*? I'm aware of /rw/config/rc.local, but that runs on system boot. Rather, I want to run something after X11 has initialized and my user is logged in. Since no DE is installed, .desktop files in ~/.config/autostart are not executed in the minimal templates ~abel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/e17927d0-d99e-deb9-ee31-4c655eddca2d%40guardianproject.info.
