Been wondering since I started Qubes earlier this year and wanted a Centos7 in place of f29 some VMs.
Found the community template date stamped in Nov 2018 and installed OK. Then ran "yum update" in
the template and it pulled down more than 900 packages with a download the same size as the template
RPM. Must have been based on a quite old release. After this I could no longer start a terminal
in the template, so something got zapped. Deleted and re-installed template, thinking I had to use
the Qubes Updater that was showing updates available for centos-7 and get:
Updating centos-7

centos-7:
      ----------
      _error:
          Failed to return clean data
      retcode:
          0
      stderr:
          Traceback (most recent call last):
            File "/var/tmp/.root_62a99a_salt/salt-call", line 15, in <module>
              salt_call()
            File "/var/tmp/.root_62a99a_salt/py2/salt/scripts.py", line 395, in salt_call
              import salt.cli.call
            File "/var/tmp/.root_62a99a_salt/py2/salt/cli/call.py", line 5, in <module>
              import salt.utils.parsers
            File "/var/tmp/.root_62a99a_salt/py2/salt/utils/parsers.py", line 27, in <module>
              import salt.config as config
            File "/var/tmp/.root_62a99a_salt/py2/salt/config/__init__.py", line 98, in <module>
              _DFLT_IPC_WBUFFER = _gather_buffer_space() * .5
            File "/var/tmp/.root_62a99a_salt/py2/salt/config/__init__.py", line 88, in _gather_buffer_space
              import salt.grains.core
            File "/var/tmp/.root_62a99a_salt/py2/salt/grains/core.py", line 44, in <module>
              import salt.utils.dns
            File "/var/tmp/.root_62a99a_salt/py2/salt/utils/dns.py", line 32, in <module>
              import salt.modules.cmdmod
            File "/var/tmp/.root_62a99a_salt/py2/salt/modules/cmdmod.py", line 34, in <module>
              import salt.utils.templates
            File "/var/tmp/.root_62a99a_salt/py2/salt/utils/templates.py", line 32, in <module>
              import salt.utils.http
            File "/var/tmp/.root_62a99a_salt/py2/salt/utils/http.py", line 41, in <module>
              import salt.loader
            File "/var/tmp/.root_62a99a_salt/py2/salt/loader.py", line 28, in <module>
              import salt.utils.event
            File "/var/tmp/.root_62a99a_salt/py2/salt/utils/event.py", line 85, in <module>
              import salt.transport.ipc
            File "/var/tmp/.root_62a99a_salt/py2/salt/transport/ipc.py", line 21, in <module>
              from tornado.locks import Semaphore
            File "/var/tmp/.root_62a99a_salt/py2/tornado/locks.py", line 18, in <module>
              from concurrent.futures import CancelledError
          ImportError: No module named concurrent.futures
      stdout:

???

What is the difference between using the Qubes update and just running yum/dnf in the template?

Currently my F29 template is getting quite fat and Qubes updates stopped working (ran through the update
then halting the f29 template qube never finished and had to be killed).
"dnf update" required in the template to clear the updates available indicator in Qubes.

Thanks, Eric

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